If you leave an additional 3' of canvas at the top you have a flap to cover your head. I also added grommets and snaps to keep the center folds together. Works great when it's cold.
I wrapped mine in a 8x12 canvas tarp from Murdochs. Also added a 3” memory foam pad from Amazon. Definitely heavier than your setup but I have yet to be cold in elk camp or on a shed hunting trip. Thanks for your great info Cliff!
Good advice. Not a hunter, but have been out in the field in the Army in the past. Their mummy bags tend to be a bit wider, but still more confining than a rectangular bag. When you're on a cot or pad for great lengths of time, getting "wrapped up" in your bag does interrupt your sleep. I appreciate your focus on the rectangular bags. Also, wool blankets are great. A bit heavier than poncho liners, but stay put. And if they get wet, still retain heat. Airing all of it out in the sun provides exposure to UV light which helps in killing bacteria.
Nice and comfy when weight or size is not an issue. Usually we will take 14 to 16 horse mule combo to haul 6 people into a wilderness area for a hunt or fishing trip . Two wall tents one wall cook tent , stoves , kitchen,bivvy , grain and all the rest of the stuff . Most comfortable camp you will ever be in . Thanks for the video. Happy Trails
Thank you for the video. The kids and I have slept out in the yard in February, canvas tarps, 3 inch foam matresses, sheets and blankets. Im not joking when I say plenty warm, covered in heavy frost.
I'm looking to go on a guided hunt and I do appreciate all of your knowledge and experience. These videos definitely help me with being prepared. Thank you
I agree with you 100%. Rectangular bag is the way to go. I have found two lightweight down sleeping bags for my backpacking needs. One is a 40 degree summer bag and the other is a 30 degree cold weather bag. I tried the mummy bags, and I could never get completely comfortable in them.
Nice video. My Amish hunting partner got me hooked on this. We add an air mattress. It adds almost nothing to the weight and bulk. The canvass protects it from punctures and it gets a lot of use when sleeping on the ground.
Yeah it works well, as long as the Tyvek has been used pretty hard or ran in a dryer… just needs to soften a bit. I meant to put a list of canvas alternatives in the video but perhaps it got cut out! Thanks for mentioning this one 👍
Thank you for the tutorial. Just a thought for a video idea Cliff, Why are Guided Hunts $10,000-$35,000 for northwest big game (moose, grizzly, sheep, goat, elk, etc)
The sheer cost of supporting 30-40 horses and mules. 40 saddles, a farrier, feed, paying multiple wranglers to manage all the stock. 10 wall tents that cost $1500/each. Hay is $15/bail right now. Paying the cook, all the food for clients, those are my guesses.
@@twsnow1891 oh for sure. I’ve done some math in my head but what I see isn’t what really happens so it’s intrigued me for a while. I’m looking into a Canadian moose hunt and $15k is the cheapest I found. But if I want a trophy size 65-75” bull it’s closer to the $32,000 range then trophy fee’s of $8,000 get added to it. I’m a contractor so I know how $100,000 for a kitchen remodel sounds insane to some, it’s really about the average cost anymore
@@joshsmith3650 hey Josh I’ll nerd out on a video for this at some point. From an outside perspective some of the varying pricing looks a bit odd… some of it is cost structure… but some of it is also related to the “asset” the outfitter/guide owns. Particularly when it comes to Can. Much of Can outfitters - are allocated tags that they then allocate to clients…. In a sense this gives them some ownership over the game animals…. In a sense, it’s complicated… regardless that is reflected in what they pay for their permits/areas. Hence, those high prices reflect the capitalization of their high priced areas. Of course it’s all supply/demand driven in the end….
@@CliffGray right on! I’m in no way disputing the cost whatsoever but a ‘nerd out white board session’ would scratch my itch hahaha. Much love for always taking the time to chat and not 2-3 word blips.
LOVE this video., great job. at 47yrs old, i am trying bed roll for the first time Minnesotsa next month, outside on ground, no tent. im doing it for whats called Order of Arrow conclave if you know Boy scouts.? so i assuming evenings will get down to low 50s. this will be for 2 nights. also i am a warm sleeper. So thinking out loud. TARP if i used a groud tarp, would i use that in place of canvas or add it to outside of cavas? if i added foam mat or inflatable backbacing sleep pad( to give me that extra 1-2" comfort from the ground.= and some extra RValue ) i dont like the burrito idea when sleeping due to rain or cold, ect bec i dont t like that trapt snug feel, so how should i lay down? maybe to one side and fold over tarp over like a TACO not a burrito - LOL so i was thinking TARP, sleep pad, SLEEP bag, Wool blanket. Pillow,.. THOUGHTS?? Also i saw one guy online ziptie the bottom 2 gromets of tarp and it kind of acted like a close footbox..
Being used to hauling my gear on my back or on a sled, I can't get over the size of that bedroll. My minus 30 sleep system I pulked in Greenland was smaller than that. That being said, if I were packing something that size, I'd probably add a Wiggy's ground pad to go with the booties. Works on a cot, in a hammock or on the ground. And it still works with a hole in it if you *hypothetically* had a few embers from a fire land on it.
Your packable minus 30 stuff is probably 10x the cost of this setup. Plus more delicate. This stuff is cheap when weight doesn’t matter. You’re probably talking sub $100 for this. He said it’s often used for guiding and outfitting where you’re not wanting to spend a ton for money on client gear that they won’t probably care about to treat particularly well. This would be great for a ready to go car camping setup.
@@jayhatSurprisingly not, it was a $250 Wiggys bag, and a $100 Wiggys ground pad. I imagine the combinations might be $450 now instead of $350. That being said, I imagine the cost of a sleep system is a small part of a $15000 guided trip.
If you're not going to do an arbor knot to start, do a round turn inside that bowline so that it will keep the tension without having to pinch off the single wrap.
Your wool blanket is a WWI horse blanket...British I believe...they were sold in droves to military surplus stores tho....but that's why the lines on it...it's made to be uniformed for all the horse as well....horse blankets are great....how do I know.. i use one too...but mine got stolen at a mass camp about 6 years ago...
I have NorthFace Thermoball booties but a wide mouth bottle like Powerade or Gatorade bottles tend to be a dollar. Getting up to piss works but you lose heat and honest I'm lazy but pissing will make it so you don't gotta keep a full bladder warm so piss in the bottle and roll...
Guys I don't get out of the tent to pee. On your way to hunting stop by TSC and get you a plastic jar of peanut butter filled pretzels. Eat them on the way and you have a nice WIDE mouthed jar to pee in. Helps to have a tent you can stand up in.
It's been a year since and a couple things have come up. I got popped on a routine EKG (I'm 52) I had a bad T form. Went for a coronary calcium score that came back bad on one artery. Took a stress test and everything ok. This is my first brush with my mortality. I goggled and TH-cam'd this and went down every worm hole. Now I'm no Doctor but you don't have to go far into almost ANY health "issue" and find that sugar if not the problem then it's in the top 5 things that make whatever bad. So I quit sugar like as in little debbies and soda, and iced tea - basically anything that comes out of a gas station convenience store. My shoulders don't hurt anymore and I don't get up to pee five times a night. Maybe once. Ohh and the problem with cutting holes in stuff is ya gotta make damn good and sure you don't knock it over in your tent. I'm tellin ya the big peanut butter pretzel jar from TSC is the way to go. And I lost 25 pounds.
If buying fresh canvas, do you think turning it into an oil skin or waxed canvas (possible video would be showing treatments) like tin cloth is worth it? If you plan to use this bedroll for "cowboy camping" by itself would you add a closed cell foam pad or anything to this to increase comfort?
Hey Jimmy, years ago I used a cover that was tin cloth… identical to the Filson Tin Pants material/treatment from what I could tell. It actually adds a bit of weight to the canvas and makes it harder to work with… stiffer, won’t easily fold up on top of you (the way I fold in the the video). The reality of sleeping under the stars (or clouds) is actually pretty rough. I have some pretty funny stories… but even the tin cloth won’t hold up to much rain. You’d have to be laying just in the right spot for the water to keep shedding and not pool up around. So long winded answer, I just go with lightly treated canvas for my setup. I should have done a section on the video for mattresses… usually the bedroll mattresses they sell are just too bulky for packing on horses/mules. So I always just bring a separate sleeping pad if I’m not bringing a cot. If it’s inflatable, you can deflate and roll it up into the bedroll. Hope that helps, thanks man!
@@CliffGray thank you for such an in depth reply as well as this video. I definitely understand the issue you are talking about for the stiffness so I see the problem there. I didn't realize it lacked being very waterproof so that is good to know. I truly appreciate the knowledge you give in your videos and your comments.
Any tips on temperatures and comfort ideas for sleeping pads, bevy, cot, etc.? I know some have a system when it’s freezing and no heat or depending what they are sleeping on (cot, ground, etc.).
I cover this a little in a old sleeping system video. When we aren’t talking lightweight setups, I go cot with a overkill warmth setup like the one I show here. Without a doubt, a cot is cold to sleep on in real low temps. Just more conduction/convection heat loss vs sleeping bag - high R value - direct on ground setup. However, I sleep better on a cot than anything else. Most people do. Hope those thoughts help. Thanks!
Lol, I have used my boots to raise my head as a pillow before when out on the motorcycle and went farther than planned and just pulled down a logging road to sleep. No big deal for me, I don't mind roughing it!
I would take an extra minute and put it in a heavy duty X large trash bag . Also put 1 or 2 in bed roll , no weight and will add protection from weather
For motor cycle riding I use a large plastic trash bag and cut out head and arm slots and masking tape the edges for durability. Put this on first then my rain overcoat. It will eliminate the water that invariably seeps through the front seem of any raincoat and keep the torso dry! May turn into a sweat bag if walking and exerting energy though
Screw mummy bags (for the feet). I hike in and still carry a rectangle bag with a flannel inards for the comfort. I will sacrifice weight elsewhere if need be
Wait till Americans discover the good ole’ Aussie Swag!! Rite of passage to have and use one as a young fella here down under. Basically what you have created except thicker canvas and with a zip.
Try to limit your food/ drink past 7pm, seems like a small thing but having your sleep interrupted by needing to piss is pretty detrimental especially in high stress hunting situations. A second positive is that your body isn't working to digest wile you sleep. Just a form of intermediate fasting
What does that measure and weight. I'm in Australia and use a swag my single swag packs about half that size about 50 cm wide and 30 cm wide and would be 7 to 10 kilos max or 20 inch x 12 inch and 16 to 22 pound. Rolls out to be 90 cm x 2.1 metres 80 cm head height 3 feet by 7 feet The double set up I use mostly use is heavy at around 16 to 18 kilo or 36 pounds at a guess with sleeping bag and two pillows in it. Unrolled is 2'1 metres 1'5 wide and 1 metre head height or 7 feet by near 5 feet and 40 inches head height. Rolled up its about 4 feet wide and 2 feet height. Fits inside a canvas bag, stops dust and crap. Is weather proof set up on own no tent or tarp needed, No ground sheet needed. Sets up in around 3 to 5 mins and packs back down in about the same. Cost of the set up is around $350 AUD and the cooldest have slept in it is minus 4 degrees C or 40 f. and was warm with just tracky dacks on.
If you ain't dead..you don't need a mummy bag. I've packed in heavy because a mummy bag drives me insane. I side sleep and toss and turn.. I can't find the way out of that damn bag. Especially in grizzly country, if I need to get out of the bag...forget it, I'm munched
BRO WHY WOULD YOU USE A BLANKET IN WARM CONDITIONS 😂🤣 IT'S ALREADY WARM lmao it kills me to hear those words. i know you meant "not super cold" when you said warm. but i pictured you sweating, then putting the WOOL ON YOU. LOLOL i live in a semi tropical area and HATE the heat. 😂 i'm not covering up without a/c and a fan or if it's 40°F
I would also recommend a beanie kept in the bedroll. When the stove goes out at night your head can get cold
Absolutely!
That’s super smart, great advice.
Best advice ever.
YEP ESPECIALLY FOR US BALD GUYS
If you leave an additional 3' of canvas at the top you have a flap to cover your head. I also added grommets and snaps to keep the center folds together. Works great when it's cold.
I wrapped mine in a 8x12 canvas tarp from Murdochs. Also added a 3” memory foam pad from Amazon. Definitely heavier than your setup but I have yet to be cold in elk camp or on a shed hunting trip. Thanks for your great info Cliff!
I Love This Guy! Straight Up! Nice Sugar Coating! Direct and A Real Freaking Human That's Tells It Like It Is. Thank You Brotha.
Thanks!
Good advice. Not a hunter, but have been out in the field in the Army in the past. Their mummy bags tend to be a bit wider, but still more confining than a rectangular bag. When you're on a cot or pad for great lengths of time, getting "wrapped up" in your bag does interrupt your sleep. I appreciate your focus on the rectangular bags. Also, wool blankets are great. A bit heavier than poncho liners, but stay put. And if they get wet, still retain heat. Airing all of it out in the sun provides exposure to UV light which helps in killing bacteria.
Killing bacteria? Maybe in your mind!
Thanks George!
Err... the sun definitely kills bacteria... that's why ultra violet water sterilizers work ...lol @@johnswanson3741
@@CliffGray
I don't like this system due to no bug net .
Nice and comfy when weight or size is not an issue. Usually we will take 14 to 16 horse mule combo to haul 6 people into a wilderness area for a hunt or fishing trip . Two wall tents one wall cook tent , stoves , kitchen,bivvy , grain and all the rest of the stuff . Most comfortable camp you will ever be in . Thanks for the video.
Happy Trails
Sounds like a good setup Mike!
Thank you for the video. The kids and I have slept out in the yard in February, canvas tarps, 3 inch foam matresses, sheets and blankets. Im not joking when I say plenty warm, covered in heavy frost.
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Always have my swag on the back of the bike 🚳🚳
I'm looking to go on a guided hunt and I do appreciate all of your knowledge and experience. These videos definitely help me with being prepared.
Thank you
In australia we have "swags, which are the same thing only already done for you.
I agree with you 100%. Rectangular bag is the way to go. I have found two lightweight down sleeping bags for my backpacking needs. One is a 40 degree summer bag and the other is a 30 degree cold weather bag. I tried the mummy bags, and I could never get completely comfortable in them.
Nice video. My Amish hunting partner got me hooked on this. We add an air mattress. It adds almost nothing to the weight and bulk. The canvass protects it from punctures and it gets a lot of use when sleeping on the ground.
I'm two minutes in and you are speaking my language, bro. 🥳
Used to make bedrolls this way. Then I went to using x4 buckle straps in blaze orange. Everyone can do them and they are super quick.
Good stuff agree we went all in for full size bags no mummies for us
Thank you for this video very informative
Thank you MR!
no prob!
Awesome video, clear explanation and view on how to set it up. Well to me enyway
Have you ever looked into a Swag?
Australian Bed roll that has a sleeping pad with it, waterproofed and designed as a small shelter.
Here in the USA, we have canvas cutters which is in its self a bivy type shelter.
Just was posting about a swag , his set up looks fatter than my double swag rolled up with sleeping bag and pillows in it. Swag is a bit wider
Ever tried a piece of Tyvek instead of canvas. I use it for a ground cloth under my tent. Very durable, waterproof.
Yeah it works well, as long as the Tyvek has been used pretty hard or ran in a dryer… just needs to soften a bit. I meant to put a list of canvas alternatives in the video but perhaps it got cut out! Thanks for mentioning this one 👍
Thank you for the tutorial. Just a thought for a video idea Cliff, Why are Guided Hunts $10,000-$35,000 for northwest big game (moose, grizzly, sheep, goat, elk, etc)
For sure Josh, I can cover this
The sheer cost of supporting 30-40 horses and mules. 40 saddles, a farrier, feed, paying multiple wranglers to manage all the stock. 10 wall tents that cost $1500/each. Hay is $15/bail right now. Paying the cook, all the food for clients, those are my guesses.
@@twsnow1891 oh for sure. I’ve done some math in my head but what I see isn’t what really happens so it’s intrigued me for a while.
I’m looking into a Canadian moose hunt and $15k is the cheapest I found. But if I want a trophy size 65-75” bull it’s closer to the $32,000 range then trophy fee’s of $8,000 get added to it. I’m a contractor so I know how $100,000 for a kitchen remodel sounds insane to some, it’s really about the average cost anymore
@@joshsmith3650 hey Josh I’ll nerd out on a video for this at some point. From an outside perspective some of the varying pricing looks a bit odd… some of it is cost structure… but some of it is also related to the “asset” the outfitter/guide owns. Particularly when it comes to Can. Much of Can outfitters - are allocated tags that they then allocate to clients…. In a sense this gives them some ownership over the game animals…. In a sense, it’s complicated… regardless that is reflected in what they pay for their permits/areas. Hence, those high prices reflect the capitalization of their high priced areas. Of course it’s all supply/demand driven in the end….
@@CliffGray right on! I’m in no way disputing the cost whatsoever but a ‘nerd out white board session’ would scratch my itch hahaha.
Much love for always taking the time to chat and not 2-3 word blips.
LOVE this video., great job. at 47yrs old, i am trying bed roll for the first time Minnesotsa next month, outside on ground, no tent. im doing it for whats called Order of Arrow conclave if you know Boy scouts.? so i assuming evenings will get down to low 50s. this will be for 2 nights. also i am a warm sleeper. So thinking out loud. TARP if i used a groud tarp, would i use that in place of canvas or add it to outside of cavas? if i added foam mat or inflatable backbacing sleep pad( to give me that extra 1-2" comfort from the ground.= and some extra RValue ) i dont like the burrito idea when sleeping due to rain or cold, ect bec i dont t like that trapt snug feel, so how should i lay down? maybe to one side and fold over tarp over like a TACO not a burrito - LOL so i was thinking TARP, sleep pad, SLEEP bag, Wool blanket. Pillow,.. THOUGHTS?? Also i saw one guy online ziptie the bottom 2 gromets of tarp and it kind of acted like a close footbox..
Being used to hauling my gear on my back or on a sled, I can't get over the size of that bedroll. My minus 30 sleep system I pulked in Greenland was smaller than that.
That being said, if I were packing something that size, I'd probably add a Wiggy's ground pad to go with the booties. Works on a cot, in a hammock or on the ground. And it still works with a hole in it if you *hypothetically* had a few embers from a fire land on it.
Your packable minus 30 stuff is probably 10x the cost of this setup. Plus more delicate. This stuff is cheap when weight doesn’t matter. You’re probably talking sub $100 for this. He said it’s often used for guiding and outfitting where you’re not wanting to spend a ton for money on client gear that they won’t probably care about to treat particularly well. This would be great for a ready to go car camping setup.
@@jayhatSurprisingly not, it was a $250 Wiggys bag, and a $100 Wiggys ground pad. I imagine the combinations might be $450 now instead of $350.
That being said, I imagine the cost of a sleep system is a small part of a $15000 guided trip.
Are you listening to yourself ? 😅
@@jadeddragon4254 As opposed to trolling like you?
If you're not going to do an arbor knot to start, do a round turn inside that bowline so that it will keep the tension without having to pinch off the single wrap.
I found it super hard to hear / focus on you because….. I was engaged in a staring contest with the Elk on the wall…. 😀
Bwhaha it happens
Now I can’t unsee it.
Your wool blanket is a WWI horse blanket...British I believe...they were sold in droves to military surplus stores tho....but that's why the lines on it...it's made to be uniformed for all the horse as well....horse blankets are great....how do I know.. i use one too...but mine got stolen at a mass camp about 6 years ago...
Great explanation!
My roll has 3 buckles on front and 3 ft extra for a hood.. no rain no dust
Best camp with a portable electric fence in bear country. Lightest is 2.4 lbs. Small kit for huge peace of mind
The extra 3 ft allows an outside wrap for travel
I have NorthFace Thermoball booties but a wide mouth bottle like Powerade or Gatorade bottles tend to be a dollar. Getting up to piss works but you lose heat and honest I'm lazy but pissing will make it so you don't gotta keep a full bladder warm so piss in the bottle and roll...
Guys I don't get out of the tent to pee. On your way to hunting stop by TSC and get you a plastic jar of peanut butter filled pretzels. Eat them on the way and you have a nice WIDE mouthed jar to pee in. Helps to have a tent you can stand up in.
good tip. thanks
You could do that at home with milk jugs beer cans or whatever you got laying around😂
I bought an old tin hospital man's bedpan for exactly the same purpose. When lightweight camping I use an old plastic food jar.
It's been a year since and a couple things have come up. I got popped on a routine EKG (I'm 52) I had a bad T form. Went for a coronary calcium score that came back bad on one artery. Took a stress test and everything ok. This is my first brush with my mortality. I goggled and TH-cam'd this and went down every worm hole. Now I'm no Doctor but you don't have to go far into almost ANY health "issue" and find that sugar if not the problem then it's in the top 5 things that make whatever bad. So I quit sugar like as in little debbies and soda, and iced tea - basically anything that comes out of a gas station convenience store. My shoulders don't hurt anymore and I don't get up to pee five times a night. Maybe once.
Ohh and the problem with cutting holes in stuff is ya gotta make damn good and sure you don't knock it over in your tent. I'm tellin ya the big peanut butter pretzel jar from TSC is the way to go.
And I lost 25 pounds.
If buying fresh canvas, do you think turning it into an oil skin or waxed canvas (possible video would be showing treatments) like tin cloth is worth it? If you plan to use this bedroll for "cowboy camping" by itself would you add a closed cell foam pad or anything to this to increase comfort?
Hey Jimmy, years ago I used a cover that was tin cloth… identical to the Filson Tin Pants material/treatment from what I could tell. It actually adds a bit of weight to the canvas and makes it harder to work with… stiffer, won’t easily fold up on top of you (the way I fold in the the video).
The reality of sleeping under the stars (or clouds) is actually pretty rough. I have some pretty funny stories… but even the tin cloth won’t hold up to much rain. You’d have to be laying just in the right spot for the water to keep shedding and not pool up around. So long winded answer, I just go with lightly treated canvas for my setup. I should have done a section on the video for mattresses… usually the bedroll mattresses they sell are just too bulky for packing on horses/mules. So I always just bring a separate sleeping pad if I’m not bringing a cot. If it’s inflatable, you can deflate and roll it up into the bedroll. Hope that helps, thanks man!
@@CliffGray thank you for such an in depth reply as well as this video. I definitely understand the issue you are talking about for the stiffness so I see the problem there. I didn't realize it lacked being very waterproof so that is good to know. I truly appreciate the knowledge you give in your videos and your comments.
Any tips on temperatures and comfort ideas for sleeping pads, bevy, cot, etc.? I know some have a system when it’s freezing and no heat or depending what they are sleeping on (cot, ground, etc.).
I cover this a little in a old sleeping system video.
When we aren’t talking lightweight setups, I go cot with a overkill warmth setup like the one I show here.
Without a doubt, a cot is cold to sleep on in real low temps. Just more conduction/convection heat loss vs sleeping bag - high R value - direct on ground setup. However, I sleep better on a cot than anything else. Most people do. Hope those thoughts help. Thanks!
@@CliffGray ok! I’ll check out that older vid. Thanks for the info on the reply too!
Pillow?!? Dang, you glampin' 😉
Heck yeah 👍haha
@@CliffGray i HAVE to have a pillow to sleep!!! with it i can sleep like a baby anywhere!!!
Lol, I have used my boots to raise my head as a pillow before when out on the motorcycle and went farther than planned and just pulled down a logging road to sleep. No big deal for me, I don't mind roughing it!
Manila will soak up water then freeze hard to get frozen knots out.
I would take an extra minute and put it in a heavy duty X large trash bag . Also put 1 or 2 in bed roll , no weight and will add protection from weather
good tip. thanks
For motor cycle riding I use a large plastic trash bag and cut out head and arm slots and masking tape the edges for durability. Put this on first then my rain overcoat. It will eliminate the water that invariably seeps through the front seem of any raincoat and keep the torso dry! May turn into a sweat bag if walking and exerting energy though
What are the dimensions that you recommend for the canvas?
Video says twice as wide and 20% longer than your sleeping bag
Screw mummy bags (for the feet). I hike in and still carry a rectangle bag with a flannel inards for the comfort. I will sacrifice weight elsewhere if need be
Wait till Americans discover the good ole’ Aussie Swag!! Rite of passage to have and use one as a young fella here down under. Basically what you have created except thicker canvas and with a zip.
Try to limit your food/ drink past 7pm, seems like a small thing but having your sleep interrupted by needing to piss is pretty detrimental especially in high stress hunting situations. A second positive is that your body isn't working to digest wile you sleep. Just a form of intermediate fasting
I’ll give it a try👍thanks
I'm sure that elk was giving me the stink eye!
Cowboys have been using these beds for 150 years
What does that measure and weight. I'm in Australia and use a swag my single swag packs about half that size about 50 cm wide and 30 cm wide and would be 7 to 10 kilos max or 20 inch x 12 inch and 16 to 22 pound. Rolls out to be 90 cm x 2.1 metres 80 cm head height 3 feet by 7 feet The double set up I use mostly use is heavy at around 16 to 18 kilo or 36 pounds at a guess with sleeping bag and two pillows in it. Unrolled is 2'1 metres 1'5 wide and 1 metre head height or 7 feet by near 5 feet and 40 inches head height. Rolled up its about 4 feet wide and 2 feet height. Fits inside a canvas bag, stops dust and crap. Is weather proof set up on own no tent or tarp needed, No ground sheet needed. Sets up in around 3 to 5 mins and packs back down in about the same. Cost of the set up is around $350 AUD and the cooldest have slept in it is minus 4 degrees C or 40 f. and was warm with just tracky dacks on.
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Hey I love that elk mount behind you. Where did you buy it?
😊👍
How would you do a bedroll if it was just you on horseback with no pack horse?
Could you use a boiled hemp rope instead of the manila?
sure
Why not just use 3-4 bungee chords and save a lot of time?
What are the dimensions of your canvas for this bedroll?
It needs to be about 2.3x as wide as your sleeping bags and 1.5x tall 👍
How long does it take to do this??
depends on how many people you have and if you have poles cut. 2-3hrs
What is the dimensions of this canvas
If you ain't dead..you don't need a mummy bag. I've packed in heavy because a mummy bag drives me insane. I side sleep and toss and turn.. I can't find the way out of that damn bag. Especially in grizzly country, if I need to get out of the bag...forget it, I'm munched
Your elk is giving me flirty eye's
Alright, oke.
Just get one from canvas cutter
Needs a cotton sheet. And a mosquito net .
How can anyone argue against experience......
just buy a swag
Or you could buy a swag
just pick up a canvas cutter bedroll way better
You should o put it flat on the ground .
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BRO WHY WOULD YOU USE A BLANKET IN WARM CONDITIONS 😂🤣 IT'S ALREADY WARM lmao it kills me to hear those words. i know you meant "not super cold" when you said warm. but i pictured you sweating, then putting the WOOL ON YOU. LOLOL i live in a semi tropical area and HATE the heat. 😂 i'm not covering up without a/c and a fan or if it's 40°F
Why did you killed that deer?
Verbal knot tying directions, and the view of a Republican watcher at the 2020 election.