Yes. Thank you so much, ive got some ideas for for holds based on wood formations from swamps in mn. Will share some cnc scans or vids of the finished holds.
Good shit, if you waft a blow torch over after youve poured the resin at the end prior to letting them set it will get rid of any air bubbles you have left over from pouring and mixing 👍
@@carlosleon9580 by waft i mean literaly just blow it over it, it doesnt take a lot of heat at all, you dont need to be close enough or slow enough to start burning your moulds :)
They don’t catch small plastic particles. That’s why, in the US at least, banned manufacturers using microbeads in products that could go down a drain.
Ever since bouldering (climbing) became fashionable, prices are through the roof, set of ten holds goes for almost 100 euros and finding a decent crashpad for less then 200 is a quest. This may be the answer to my problems 😁
@@gasperh.9800 That's how I got the holds I use, got them twenty years ago, so yeah they're pretty old school, problem today is everything is closed so can't get to them 😁
Nah mate, the amount of silicon and resin he used will have easily cost €100 - but if properly maintained you could get up to 50 castings from one mould, so if you needed a few hundred holds, it might start to be cost effective.
@@jean-baptistejourjon4024 I know we're all captain planet here in this thread, but if you have purchased a to-go item from a restaurant in the past 5 years and used a foam container, you already polluted 100 times more than what you see on the video. I agree there needs to be better filtering.
отверстие под болты лучше высверливать на сверлийном станке. Тогда на всех зацепах будет одна и таже высота канала под болт(расстояние от подложки до шайбы). И останется подобрать длину болта только в зависимости от толщины доски на которую крепятся зацепы.
@@platinumpepe8626 non-biodegradable microplastics finding their way into our oceans and food source which we then consume is not temporary. It is a very serious issue.
Dear god man make some wood sides when making the molds, you already have so much invested in it. I find it hard to believe that with time, silicone, foam and resin that this would be worth it.
Depens on the size, but you’ll need to make at least 5 copies of the same hold to pay off the cost of the mold. Otherwise it’s cheaper to just buy the holds
Good job dude!! I have some questions by the way. I was try to make also some holds but I had some problems. When the mold was ready I put off foam but lot of foam stayed in the mold. How can avoid this situation?? Thanks in advance!!
If you are making just few, it will be more expensive to make them. If you plan to have many, it would be cheaper because you can use the same mold hundreds of times.
Is that a really a filter or a standard sink strainer? Because a strainer will not hold the plastic dust back. Perhaps you could do it in a bucket and at least filter the water through a coffee filter? But otherwise thank you for the video!
hi, thx for the thorough tutorial, really helpful. I have a question: which resin should I choose? an epoxy resin (glass and clear) or a polyurethane type? Thx
Seems like you've been doing this for a while and I dont want to assume your lack of knowledge....however I would caution against using either of the two containers that part a or b of your mixture was in by itself to do the final pour. Mixing both in the 3rd bucket was the right move...but I cringed a little watching you pour it back into a container with unmixed material in it. Using a separate clean container for pouring will help minimize any risk of cross contamination and failure of the resin in the small unmixed portions that might get added as a result of doing it the current way. Aside from that critque...loved the video. I dont rock climb but have wanted to build a small wall for my kids who have boundless energy and the trees around here dont cut it. Also great job really hammering in protective equipment. Dont see it enough. Thanks for the content...it was very informational.
even if you manage to copy the rough foam it will wear out soon. you need to add micro bubbles ideally or marble dust for a cheaper solution to prevent them from getting polished with use.
When you shape the floral foam you get dust inside of the pores, get a can of compressed air and blow the dust off the foam before you cast it for the best texture.
Depends on the size of the hold and the silicone required, but for the molds of this video, you can consider something in between 30 to 60 dollars per mold. So if you are not planning in making multiple copies, it is expensive. The more copies, the cheaper it gets.
I want to make a grip that matches the elbow. Specifically the shape of the humerus where it connects at the joint. I've been working on a C shape hand grip to hold onto opponents by this bone and think cross training rock climbing would be great. Any ideas about how to go about accurately shaping the foam for this bone structure?
If you're grabbing someone's arm, any part of it, you're grabbing more muscle and tissue than you are bone. Just use a PVC pipe with a 90 degree elbow joint. It's a few bucks at Home Depot. The harder part will be getting the muscle around that to the correct shape and density. A high density foam with another layer of softer foam might work well. But do not waste time making a realistic humerus. If you only used a "humerus shaped climbing hold" for training (I assume fighting or wrestling), then you are gonna be in for a rude awakening when you grab a real persons arm and it feels nothing like what you've been training with, and your muscles developed incorrectly for it.
For a standard 3/8 inch bolt, you want a 7/16 drill bit. For the countsink, I think you can use a 7/8 washer and 7/8 drill bit. (Sorry if you're looking for metric.)
Thanks for the tutorial ! So the hold texture is thanks to the foam right? I was wondering if the polyurethane was filled with sand of such to give it this abrasive texture.
Awesome video! Psyched to try it! How many holds do you make from the equipment listed? After I buy everything once, how much roughly does it cost to make like 10 holds around the size you made in the video?
Well from what's listed on the comments section you may be able to do 3 or 4 molds of the same size as in the video, and you may be able to get say 16 holds (4 per mold) with the resin, so it depends of the shape and how much you consume. The molds is the expensive part. But once you get a mold, you can make hundreds of copies.
This is a cool tutorial, but please don't intentionally put that plastic styrofoam into the water system :( Much better to use modeling clay if you can find a good way to texture it.
indeed! Microplastics/fibers end into the water supply all the way to the Oceans! anyways climbing resin holds aren't eco-friendly (even though there are some made from biodegradable plastic) perhaps wood holds (from sustainable sources) are the only way to go - The World doesn't need more plastic. As a rock climber I must admit the rock climbing industry is one biggest toxic waste generator.
@@KOG.113 The world needs less plastics in the wrong places (single-use items) and more in the right places (for example the invention of plastics saved the elephants from extinction in 1800's). Also special plastic membranes wrapped around some foods reduce food waste which in many cases would be even worse for the environment. Macro, Micro- and nano-plastics could be problems though. It's going to take a long time but scientists will find solutions. So we have to invest into research! And dispose of plastics correctly! Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle.
@@KOG.113 Why would you want a biodegradable climbing hold? Surely you want a climbing hold that just lasts forever? Like plastic... The 'plastic = bad' mentality is ridiculous short-sighted. Plastic is often the best material for the job, and is almost always eco-friendly if it isn't single use.
I agree with all of us, but a climbing hold don't last for ever, you have to re-texture it. And I don't think that climbing gyms are doing it. They are just buying more and more because of new shapes...and so producing more plastic :/ I also think wood is à really good alternative, and you can use only a thin layer of resin to texture it. But it is much more work for companies
Not really, the floral foam creates the best texture for your fingers. Climbers have been making holds with floral foam for at least 40 years, we have tried everything else and everything else is worse.
I've seen people use molding clay before in videos. Texture can be added by taking a rock (or several rocks) and pressing it against the shaped clay. Just have to get creative I would imagine.
@@mtwone6026 Have you ever personally made any holds like this and then climbed on them? When you start trying to "add texture" you have to do it on an almost microscopic level to create a surface that provides good grip on the skin, decent wear for the hold before it becomes polished, not too rough so it doesn't rip your fingerprints off before you can get a training session in etc etc We have tried everything else, everything else is worse than floral foam. Just use the foam... Or feel free to waste loads of your money figuring out what we have already figured out.
@@disposabull I haven't. One article I read said they would let the clay sit out for a bit to let it dry, and then they would take a wet/damp sponge to smooth out/improve the texture on the clay.
@@mtwone6026 This is a really good tutorial, just follow it and save yourself lots of wasted money, silicone and resin are expensive. The only 2 things I would do differently is : 3D print a hard plastic outer shell to pour the silicon into, f you have a 3D printer it will save you money as you need much less of the expensive silicon for making a mold with. Use a vacuum pump for degassing, sucking all the air bubbles out makes stronger molds & holds but it's not worth the expense of buying a vacuum pump & setup for a small batch of holds.
Why don’t u use vacuum chamber to degas air from components and why don’t u use a pressure pot to get rid of all bubbles? Your holds would be even tougher that way.
What were you thinking? Use a vacuum cleaner. NEVER rinse down the drain. Yes, there is a water treatment plant (not always), but trust me, they would be better off without anything else in there.
Unfortunately this is a polymer, it is plastic and is not bio-degradable. In the other hand, is not a disposable item like a plastic mask. Climbing holds can last 20, 30 years with good care. Or more. Ethical? well as long as you don't use child labor or exploit anyone it should be fine. You can minimize pollution by reducing waste.
@@climbingworkouts hahahaha well said on ethics there, but the lifespan though open to interpretation, suffices for that :) so it's not like other ott plastics, even those covering the likes of freaking bananas haha. Hmm, not disposable is something I've not heard of like this, that's really interesting :o I'm glad you've said this in such detail, I didn't expect all that so both impressed and relieved I suppose. The way I see it is if they're used with full potential even if single use, life span and all, then it's viable in my books :D so I may try this unless I find a job lot on eBay XD
Im no climber but aren't holds cheaper to buy than make plus two mounting holes so they dont spin. Time is money and these take considerable time and money to make. Could only see this usefully for making a custom hold no one offers.
Hold are not cheap, look at the prices. From a good company, 50 holds will cost you $250 to $300 USD. That 50 holds will only set maybe three routes on a 10 foot (3 meters) high wall. I had a wall at my house that was 10 feet (3 meters) tall by 16 feet (4.8 meters) wide and had over 500 holds. I used them all and still had a lot of open space.
@@williambyrnes4198 think about it how much money and time would it take you to make 500 mold? Calculate the cost I like diy projects just cant see these being cheaper than buying them given how many molds need to be made and the costs of materials.
@@Rockerrobin If you wanted 500 holds you would only make about 50 molds. If you were to buy 10 packs of 50 holds you will get 10 or more of the same hold. Some of the pack will have 2 or 3 of the same hold. I will save you money but not time. The key thing is you get holds in the shape that you want and can make holds that you will not be able to find anywhere. If you take the numbers that I gave above it would cost you $2,500 USD to buy 500 holds. As for the time, people that would be making their own are the type of people the enjoy DIY. I was lucky when I got my holds and bought them for around $500 and that also got me most of the wood as well because I got it from someone that took their home climbing wall down.
You can quite easily make holds from... Rock. Sand stone is the easiest as it’s soft but you can use what ever rocks are local to you. 1. Buy some rock locally 2. Shape some holds with chisel and drills. 3. Add a hole as shown in the video for the bolts. Use a glue to add washers for longevity. 4. Bolt to your wall. Tip. If you want tiny holds simply shape then in to larger holds. You could use composite stone off cuts as they may be similar to non composite stones and cheaper and easier to get a hold of... (pun) ;) For reference we do a lot of old quarry climbing where I live. There are a lot of loose rocks and stuff still in the quarry. Use what you climb on out doors to practice indoors. ;) it’s really easy if you find some one to flatten a side and drill them for you e.g. like a local stone mason.
The idea is pretty good, but rocks might break unexpectedly, and even more if only held by one screw. That's if you want a modular wall, for a definitive one yeah, stick some rocks to a wall!
We have tried that it sucks. The rocks will shatter and rain down on your customers. If they don't shatter they become polished like glass very quickly. The best solution is floral foam/silicon mold/epoxy. The only way to make a better climbing hold than this video is to add a little bit of glass fibre. If you over tighten the hold it can crack, the fibreglass will keep the hold together so the route setter doesn't drop chunks of hold on to your customers below.
Wow, this is a long and spendy process. I've seen much cheaper ways of doing this on youtube. I'm currently making my own molds. I just use less than a 4th of the amount of silicone and I don't have that clay substance he encapsulates his in.
you shouldnt wash down all that polyurethan foam, thats really fucked up stuff for the enviroment. nevertheless good video, really nice way to get detailed holds
it's true, best thing is to put a paper towel on the drain and it catches all the dust, not just for the environment but also you don't clog the drain :o
@@A1r5oftM4n Climbers have been doing it this way for many decades, we have tried everything else and it is worse. If you mix epoxy and sand you get a smooth but lumpy texture that is really slippery. The floral foam provides the best texture on the skin, that is why use it.
When the day comes and you spill this horribly sticky resin by accident all over your skin and clothing, you will consider buying one... specially if you are doing large batches. For little pieces you don't need one.
I don't even climb but this was so satisfying to watch.
Right, I'm contemplating on starting now that I've learned this.
How lame you don't climb get into it you won't regret it
I was a bit skeptical of using the florist foam but it really made for a great finish! Thanks for sharing.
Yes. Thank you so much, ive got some ideas for for holds based on wood formations from swamps in mn. Will share some cnc scans or vids of the finished holds.
Good shit, if you waft a blow torch over after youve poured the resin at the end prior to letting them set it will get rid of any air bubbles you have left over from pouring and mixing 👍
what happens with the silicone?
@@carlosleon9580 by waft i mean literaly just blow it over it, it doesnt take a lot of heat at all, you dont need to be close enough or slow enough to start burning your moulds :)
Spray acetone after you have poured,been there done that.
You should mix with sand it is much cheaper. Use a vacuum pump to remove the air bubbles.
Is there a ratio to mixing the sand with the resin?
Sandblasting media may be even better, its finer and may be better for the skin
@@lbgstzockt8493 We're taking pride in ripping skin off our fingers, no worries haha.
Sweet video but please put a filter on the drain next time you wash the foam out of the molds ! I saw so much foam go down the sink :(
Ever heard of a wastewater treatment plant? It's fine.
Better than “flushable” wipes.
There is a screen on the drain.
They don’t catch small plastic particles. That’s why, in the US at least, banned manufacturers using microbeads in products that could go down a drain.
Very buoyant. Could build up in the P-trap causing clogs or worse. Plus this should just go in the trash anyway.
The thrill in the mind must also be exercised and satisfied.
Besides boardsports..I love the experience of rock climbing...not saying Im a pro but it is a great exercise.
Ever since bouldering (climbing) became fashionable, prices are through the roof, set of ten holds goes for almost 100 euros and finding a decent crashpad for less then 200 is a quest. This may be the answer to my problems 😁
another solution is to buy some used holds. many climbing gyms throw them away because they became "old school", but they are still great for training
@@gasperh.9800 That's how I got the holds I use, got them twenty years ago, so yeah they're pretty old school, problem today is everything is closed so can't get to them 😁
i think wood is another option, easy to carve, pretty strong, and has build in texture....
Nah mate, the amount of silicon and resin he used will have easily cost €100 - but if properly maintained you could get up to 50 castings from one mould, so if you needed a few hundred holds, it might start to be cost effective.
@@nrgspike 😁 we did the math
nice! ive thought this whole time that the resin contained sand which allowed the texture, turns out the foam texture is all it needs. pretty sick
That's the biggest secret...
I know it is called a garbage disposal, but you really shouldn't be putting that foam down the drain.
I just scrolled down to say this... Holy crap microplastics...
Your plumber loves your hobby
I've been shaping for a long time and I've never seen someone use water to keep the dust down. I'm going to have to try this. Thanks for sharing.
Please don't put it down the drain like he did though
Not the best idea to dispose all pollutants through sink like foam dust and silicon fragments.
You shouldn't promote such practice !
@@jean-baptistejourjon4024 I know we're all captain planet here in this thread, but if you have purchased a to-go item from a restaurant in the past 5 years and used a foam container, you already polluted 100 times more than what you see on the video. I agree there needs to be better filtering.
Amazing work man
Thought he would soak it in a polymer/resin so the sponge would harden
отверстие под болты лучше высверливать на сверлийном станке. Тогда на всех зацепах будет одна и таже высота канала под болт(расстояние от подложки до шайбы). И останется подобрать длину болта только в зависимости от толщины доски на которую крепятся зацепы.
Wooow good video men 🙌🙌🙌
amazing content, thank you very much
Maybe put the waste in the bin , not down the drain:(
It's okay little buddy don't need to cry about something temporary
@@platinumpepe8626 non-biodegradable microplastics finding their way into our oceans and food source which we then consume is not temporary. It is a very serious issue.
@@platinumpepe8626 humans sucks
@@AurilliaI don’t think civilians are the ones making a huge impact.
That's pretty cool I had to double check the srub I'm the back ground it looked like a big weed plant lol
What?
Awesome video
I used to work for Nicros. Did all this.
Dear god man make some wood sides when making the molds, you already have so much invested in it.
I find it hard to believe that with time, silicone, foam and resin that this would be worth it.
Is this biobased and biodegradable foam? Or how can you rinse it all down the sink?
I thought those were jelly candies when I saw the thumbnail and it’s also why I clicked in here.
Great!
Dank buds lol 10:42 - takes off respirator 😉
The little neat things that turn into big things.
How did you make the bolt tool to flatten the hole in the foam?
Absolutely fantastic!!!
Super inspiring. What do you think your cost is for ten holds?
Depens on the size, but you’ll need to make at least 5 copies of the same hold to pay off the cost of the mold. Otherwise it’s cheaper to just buy the holds
Wicked. Thanks a bunch. 👍
what is this molding silicone alumilite? where do I need that for?
Where can I buy sculpting foam?
What size drill bits did you use?
EN 12572-3 gives technical requirements for hand holds.
great great work
Thanks brother
where did the hold texture come from? you did make any texture.
It comes from the foam. The mold copies all the texture
@@climbingworkouts ahhh ok!! got it thnx
What size is the drill hole? 3/8 inch? And how big is washer for the head?
@@brandondoucette1178 use 7/16 for the drill bit
Good job dude!! I have some questions by the way. I was try to make also some holds but I had some problems. When the mold was ready I put off foam but lot of foam stayed in the mold. How can avoid this situation?? Thanks in advance!!
brush it well with a toothbrush, once you cast the mold for first time (with resin), all the sediments will go away
Do you need to fix the edges with the knife if you’re going to sand it anyways :o
Whats resin type?
Is it cheaper to make your own holds like this or to buy them?
If you are making just few, it will be more expensive to make them. If you plan to have many, it would be cheaper because you can use the same mold hundreds of times.
Thanks Bro
yeah much the same as below. nice instruction. But cringed when I seen it all getting washed down the sink..
Notice there is a filter in the sink catching the Styrofoam, so it is nor getting washed but contained there to be disposed separately.
Is that a really a filter or a standard sink strainer? Because a strainer will not hold the plastic dust back. Perhaps you could do it in a bucket and at least filter the water through a coffee filter?
But otherwise thank you for the video!
hi, thx for the thorough tutorial, really helpful. I have a question: which resin should I choose? an epoxy resin (glass and clear) or a polyurethane type? Thx
I’d go for the polyurethane
Seems like you've been doing this for a while and I dont want to assume your lack of knowledge....however I would caution against using either of the two containers that part a or b of your mixture was in by itself to do the final pour. Mixing both in the 3rd bucket was the right move...but I cringed a little watching you pour it back into a container with unmixed material in it. Using a separate clean container for pouring will help minimize any risk of cross contamination and failure of the resin in the small unmixed portions that might get added as a result of doing it the current way.
Aside from that critque...loved the video. I dont rock climb but have wanted to build a small wall for my kids who have boundless energy and the trees around here dont cut it. Also great job really hammering in protective equipment. Dont see it enough. Thanks for the content...it was very informational.
The hold comes out smooth to me what I need to put on in order for it to come out as rough as in the video?
the foam texture creates the hold texture
even if you manage to copy the rough foam it will wear out soon. you need to add micro bubbles ideally or marble dust for a cheaper solution to prevent them from getting polished with use.
When you shape the floral foam you get dust inside of the pores, get a can of compressed air and blow the dust off the foam before you cast it for the best texture.
Can the molds be reused?
hundreds of times...
And that is why climbing holds are Expensive!!!
epoxy is kinda expensive anyway
@@jackdumanat49 Why not use a cheaper material?
@@difflocktwo the alternative are also kinda expensive and as finicky to use. Like Fibre glass. Although offcut wood is pretty good cheap alternative
@Dan Didnot I cannot even do a pull up. Long way from climbing.
What are the diameters ( sizes ) of the holes you make in de foam in the beginning?
That is 7/16”
how much did you spend for each hold in the end?
What is the cost per mold to start?
Then per mold once you have all the reusable stuff?
When does this become more cost effective than buying?
Depends on the size of the hold and the silicone required, but for the molds of this video, you can consider something in between 30 to 60 dollars per mold. So if you are not planning in making multiple copies, it is expensive. The more copies, the cheaper it gets.
I want to make a grip that matches the elbow. Specifically the shape of the humerus where it connects at the joint. I've been working on a C shape hand grip to hold onto opponents by this bone and think cross training rock climbing would be great.
Any ideas about how to go about accurately shaping the foam for this bone structure?
never heard of such interesting idea, you may have to carve the shape manually, 3d print it possibly and make a mold out of it.
If you're grabbing someone's arm, any part of it, you're grabbing more muscle and tissue than you are bone. Just use a PVC pipe with a 90 degree elbow joint. It's a few bucks at Home Depot. The harder part will be getting the muscle around that to the correct shape and density. A high density foam with another layer of softer foam might work well. But do not waste time making a realistic humerus. If you only used a "humerus shaped climbing hold" for training (I assume fighting or wrestling), then you are gonna be in for a rude awakening when you grab a real persons arm and it feels nothing like what you've been training with, and your muscles developed incorrectly for it.
@@ItsAJohnra sorry but this is not correct in what I am describing. You can latch the joint itself
What are the drill bit sizes?
Lol, same question
For a standard 3/8 inch bolt, you want a 7/16 drill bit. For the countsink, I think you can use a 7/8 washer and 7/8 drill bit. (Sorry if you're looking for metric.)
When making the mold, why did you do it in 2 pours rather than just one? Just curious if there was a reason!
It is so you don't get bubbles. The first layer is to make sure the silicone goes in all the cavities. The second layer is to fill up the rest
Cool vid! Just 1 quedtion, what kind of resin is it? :)
It is high density urethane. Polyester resin works too with the same technique.
Thanks for the tutorial !
So the hold texture is thanks to the foam right? I was wondering if the polyurethane was filled with sand of such to give it this abrasive texture.
That’s the big “secret” - The texture comes from the mold, not from any sand or texturizing process
Awesome video! Psyched to try it! How many holds do you make from the equipment listed? After I buy everything once, how much roughly does it cost to make like 10 holds around the size you made in the video?
Well from what's listed on the comments section you may be able to do 3 or 4 molds of the same size as in the video, and you may be able to get say 16 holds (4 per mold) with the resin, so it depends of the shape and how much you consume. The molds is the expensive part. But once you get a mold, you can make hundreds of copies.
@@climbingworkouts awesome thanks so much! Can’t wait to start making holds!
could you use that method to create molds of existing holds, therefore skipping the foam and shaping step?
Yes, absolutely, you can create molds for any other existing hold or model, therefore skipping the foam shaping part
They are easy to 3d print
@@D4N50M3 they would take quite a while to print a hold though,
I'll just buy them, thanks.
Hey, great vid thank you! What silicone and resin do you find works best vs price?
Glad you liked the video, in the video description you will find all the ingredients I use and at the best prices, specially for the silicone
@@climbingworkouts you are a legend bro. Thanks!
Al that plastic down in the sink! GOOOOD
This is a cool tutorial, but please don't intentionally put that plastic styrofoam into the water system :( Much better to use modeling clay if you can find a good way to texture it.
Agree, I always catch the styrofoam and take it out of the sink once done shaping. It can easily clog it
indeed! Microplastics/fibers end into the water supply all the way to the Oceans! anyways climbing resin holds aren't eco-friendly (even though there are some made from biodegradable plastic) perhaps wood holds (from sustainable sources) are the only way to go - The World doesn't need more plastic. As a rock climber I must admit the rock climbing industry is one biggest toxic waste generator.
@@KOG.113 The world needs less plastics in the wrong places (single-use items) and more in the right places (for example the invention of plastics saved the elephants from extinction in 1800's). Also special plastic membranes wrapped around some foods reduce food waste which in many cases would be even worse for the environment.
Macro, Micro- and nano-plastics could be problems though. It's going to take a long time but scientists will find solutions. So we have to invest into research! And dispose of plastics correctly! Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle.
@@KOG.113 Why would you want a biodegradable climbing hold? Surely you want a climbing hold that just lasts forever? Like plastic... The 'plastic = bad' mentality is ridiculous short-sighted. Plastic is often the best material for the job, and is almost always eco-friendly if it isn't single use.
I agree with all of us, but a climbing hold don't last for ever, you have to re-texture it. And I don't think that climbing gyms are doing it. They are just buying more and more because of new shapes...and so producing more plastic :/
I also think wood is à really good alternative, and you can use only a thin layer of resin to texture it. But it is much more work for companies
Watched the first 30 seconds but had to stop. No way would that foam hold anybodies weight!!!!!
(Kidding, awesomely useful video) 😘
Won't it help to add water in the tray during the sanding process to prevent resin dust from floating into the air?😷
This is one building project for which my primary tool would be a credit card.
Is there a natural alternative to dry foam?? I don't like it at all!!
Not really, the floral foam creates the best texture for your fingers. Climbers have been making holds with floral foam for at least 40 years, we have tried everything else and everything else is worse.
I've seen people use molding clay before in videos. Texture can be added by taking a rock (or several rocks) and pressing it against the shaped clay. Just have to get creative I would imagine.
@@mtwone6026 Have you ever personally made any holds like this and then climbed on them?
When you start trying to "add texture" you have to do it on an almost microscopic level to create a surface that provides good grip on the skin, decent wear for the hold before it becomes polished, not too rough so it doesn't rip your fingerprints off before you can get a training session in etc etc
We have tried everything else, everything else is worse than floral foam. Just use the foam...
Or feel free to waste loads of your money figuring out what we have already figured out.
@@disposabull I haven't. One article I read said they would let the clay sit out for a bit to let it dry, and then they would take a wet/damp sponge to smooth out/improve the texture on the clay.
@@mtwone6026 This is a really good tutorial, just follow it and save yourself lots of wasted money, silicone and resin are expensive.
The only 2 things I would do differently is :
3D print a hard plastic outer shell to pour the silicon into, f you have a 3D printer it will save you money as you need much less of the expensive silicon for making a mold with.
Use a vacuum pump for degassing, sucking all the air bubbles out makes stronger molds & holds but it's not worth the expense of buying a vacuum pump & setup for a small batch of holds.
Francci - Deluxury (2022 Remastered Version) (feat. Flavio La Barre)
Great vid, had to mute the sound tho.
I could hear the music perfectly fine on minimum volume.
Why don’t u use vacuum chamber to degas air from components and why don’t u use a pressure pot to get rid of all bubbles? Your holds would be even tougher that way.
What were you thinking? Use a vacuum cleaner. NEVER rinse down the drain. Yes, there is a water treatment plant (not always), but trust me, they would be better off without anything else in there.
Why are you putting foam in the water system for dude. How is that a good idea?
What a total muppet. He is using Smooth-on 65D which is a clean polyurethane resin for hobby use. I do it in my shed just with surgical gloves.
This is awesome!!!! I'd really love to do this myself. Can you tell me if it's ethical, recyclable or anything like that? :O
Unfortunately this is a polymer, it is plastic and is not bio-degradable. In the other hand, is not a disposable item like a plastic mask. Climbing holds can last 20, 30 years with good care. Or more. Ethical? well as long as you don't use child labor or exploit anyone it should be fine. You can minimize pollution by reducing waste.
@@climbingworkouts hahahaha well said on ethics there, but the lifespan though open to interpretation, suffices for that :) so it's not like other ott plastics, even those covering the likes of freaking bananas haha. Hmm, not disposable is something I've not heard of like this, that's really interesting :o I'm glad you've said this in such detail, I didn't expect all that so both impressed and relieved I suppose. The way I see it is if they're used with full potential even if single use, life span and all, then it's viable in my books :D so I may try this unless I find a job lot on eBay XD
@@climbingworkouts you comment about reducing waste but in the video literally sent tons of trash down the sink. Common bro
I don't think I want to make my own DIY climbing stuff buy that stuff professionally made but good video educational
Small improvement on this method, when putting the plasticine in the microwave, do NOT put it in a plastic container.
You should have shown the kids how to make an SLA printer and just resin print this junk repeatedly instead of making each individual one by hand xD
Im no climber but aren't holds cheaper to buy than make plus two mounting holes so they dont spin. Time is money and these take considerable time and money to make. Could only see this usefully for making a custom hold no one offers.
Hold are not cheap, look at the prices. From a good company, 50 holds will cost you $250 to $300 USD. That 50 holds will only set maybe three routes on a 10 foot (3 meters) high wall. I had a wall at my house that was 10 feet (3 meters) tall by 16 feet (4.8 meters) wide and had over 500 holds. I used them all and still had a lot of open space.
@@williambyrnes4198 think about it how much money and time would it take you to make 500 mold? Calculate the cost I like diy projects just cant see these being cheaper than buying them given how many molds need to be made and the costs of materials.
@@Rockerrobin If you wanted 500 holds you would only make about 50 molds. If you were to buy 10 packs of 50 holds you will get 10 or more of the same hold. Some of the pack will have 2 or 3 of the same hold. I will save you money but not time. The key thing is you get holds in the shape that you want and can make holds that you will not be able to find anywhere.
If you take the numbers that I gave above it would cost you $2,500 USD to buy 500 holds. As for the time, people that would be making their own are the type of people the enjoy DIY. I was lucky when I got my holds and bought them for around $500 and that also got me most of the wood as well because I got it from someone that took their home climbing wall down.
Between the microplastic in the sink and the amount of chemicals involved.... I'd rather stick to wood climbing holds and avoid polluting even more...
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sorry but foam particules (plastic) in the drain, it's not ecofriendly, thanks
You can quite easily make holds from...
Rock.
Sand stone is the easiest as it’s soft but you can use what ever rocks are local to you.
1. Buy some rock locally
2. Shape some holds with chisel and drills.
3. Add a hole as shown in the video for the bolts. Use a glue to add washers for longevity.
4. Bolt to your wall.
Tip. If you want tiny holds simply shape then in to larger holds.
You could use composite stone off cuts as they may be similar to non composite stones and cheaper and easier to get a hold of... (pun) ;)
For reference we do a lot of old quarry climbing where I live. There are a lot of loose rocks and stuff still in the quarry.
Use what you climb on out doors to practice indoors. ;) it’s really easy if you find some one to flatten a side and drill them for you e.g. like a local stone mason.
The idea is pretty good, but rocks might break unexpectedly, and even more if only held by one screw. That's if you want a modular wall, for a definitive one yeah, stick some rocks to a wall!
@@baptistem2978 drilling the rock would be a hassle
We have tried that it sucks. The rocks will shatter and rain down on your customers. If they don't shatter they become polished like glass very quickly.
The best solution is floral foam/silicon mold/epoxy.
The only way to make a better climbing hold than this video is to add a little bit of glass fibre. If you over tighten the hold it can crack, the fibreglass will keep the hold together so the route setter doesn't drop chunks of hold on to your customers below.
That shit is going in the water system. A good glass of water foam.
Wow, this is a long and spendy process. I've seen much cheaper ways of doing this on youtube. I'm currently making my own molds. I just use less than a 4th of the amount of silicone and I don't have that clay substance he encapsulates his in.
Take your bucket to the gym and put it on the treadmill
Once you get past halfway on this video you are stuck. The sick music pulls you through to the finish!
Music was really loud.
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bruh thanks for the earrape
you shouldnt wash down all that polyurethan foam, thats really fucked up stuff for the enviroment. nevertheless good video, really nice way to get detailed holds
it's true, best thing is to put a paper towel on the drain and it catches all the dust, not just for the environment but also you don't clog the drain :o
Wanted to watch it but the music is dreadfully loud
There's 25 million things better suited and easier than plasticine.
Whoops I was watching a series on making glass gravel and your video hopped in ignore that comment
All that work, cost, health risk and environmental pollution for some holds you can buy for way less anyway.
Load of micro plastic directly in the water system ....
Что за паралон такой или пена.
yezzzz the music is clipping so hard... replace it.
maybe try casting with concrete for a better texture and cheaper cost :)
And much higher fracture rate ;)
@@Phazaar Maybe epoxy/ sand mix! worth a test
@@A1r5oftM4n Climbers have been doing it this way for many decades, we have tried everything else and it is worse. If you mix epoxy and sand you get a smooth but lumpy texture that is really slippery. The floral foam provides the best texture on the skin, that is why use it.
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Nice info but man you don’t need a bunt suit to play with resin. Tells me you have a white collar job probably
When the day comes and you spill this horribly sticky resin by accident all over your skin and clothing, you will consider buying one... specially if you are doing large batches. For little pieces you don't need one.
I just want you to know i dont give AF about the foam in the sink hole.