Hello and thaks a lot. I must say that although I'm not exactly viral it beats trying to get the interest of a roomful of students, half of whom are texting their friends.
Hello and sorry it took so long. There are very few i won't get round to in the end but the list is currently more than I've already covered so some will necessarily be at the tail end of the queue.
@@petebeard Reminds me of some of the great composers who were overshadowed by their contemporaries. J.N. Hummel comes to mind. He had the misfortune (?) of being taught by Mozart and competing with Beethoven, Haydn and Schubert. Few people remember him today ... As you state in your video though, Albert Dorne seems to have been at least as good as, if not better than, Rockwell. I will be exploring his work. Thanks again.
@@Ellesmere888 Well I for one have never heard of him, but I'll have a listen on youtube. Funnily enough I've never bothered with classical music until I started making the videos and realised it can make a decent backing track. And I've even started to like some of it (although I'm still a blues, soul and country man at heart.)
@@petebeard I was fortunate in having a good guide for classical music, my now deceased mother-in-law. As you do for me & others for illustrators, she did for me with composers. What you do is valuable; never forget that.
Like many other followers here, I can't help but smile when I see a new video pop up. Thank you Pete, these are remarkable. LOL showing my age as well, I collected those comics with the ad for art school. Until next time indeed :-)
Hello and I'll assume that your comment is an indication that you are what might be considered a young person. I was among the last generation of illustrators who started work before desktop computers arrved in 1984. And I went from traditional to digital in the 90s. With hindsight I wish I hadn't. Computers make it too easy and visual character is much harder to establish.
@@petebeard I really appreciate the rescue you do because I do something similar around here on my facebok and my channels. I rescue testimonies, vestiges, works of yesterday and I show them. I used to give talks or conferences on the history of Chilean comics and make exhibitions of my comic magazines. I also draw. Greetings from Chile!!!
@@therealcapitanchile Hello again, and I'm glad that you are also spreading knowledge to others about the work of illustrators. I think we are both doing something good.
I remember seeing Dorne's illustrations in back issues but had no idea who the artist was. And, my gosh! Otto Soglow! I read about the Little King when I was in High School in the 70s! And right after that I found a newspaper which was running "The Little King," (which Soglow was still drawing!) Thanks for another wonderful video!
Hi again. Both Dorne and Soglow seem to have been the best liked in this instalment, and I suppose that's the beauty of illustration -draughtsamnship of the highest calibre through to hardly any at all. What an inclusive artform it is.
Hi Pete... Dorne is my favorite of this video. I was a comic book collector in my youth and I clearly remember his ad for his art school on the back of each comic book issue. His detail did rival that of Rockwell, shame he died young. Brings back the memories and joy of those comic book collections. Thanks again.
Hi John. Yes I believe it's what's known as a no-brainer that you would go for Dorne. I used to see those ads in the American comicsand wish I could join the school.
Wonderful episode. I was delighted to see Albert Dorne showcased. Awhile back I bought a copy of his Famous Artist's Course off Amazon. Looking forward to more great content!
Hello and I have to say that from my side of the equation it's never redundant to express positive responses to the channel content. Viewer feedback is really helpful in keeping me motivated.
Thank you for posting this material. I live and worked in a totally different world, but this is fascinating and you showcase it in an engaging manner! Cheers!
Another wonderful video. I loved the Little King, each episode was a short morality play and he always resolved as the hero. Thanks Pete for another great video.
Hi Albert. Hope you're well. I think I owe you an e-mail. It's a funny thing (to me at least) but quite a few people have expressed admiration for The Little King strip. I do love the fact that people who arent great as draughtsmen can still be highly successful in illustration.
The pure talent of these commercial artists...having to produce weekly strip cartoons and pieces for ads..very clever..no computer enhancing their work... Thank you for this overview of artists from the past..⭐
I was about to pack it in for the night, but this popped up. I really dug the last two illustrators, how one could reduce and simplify, while the other was highly detailed.
Hello again and thanks as usual. For me it was Martin Claus - a real revelation. On the other hand he was the only one I didn't already know about so it might just be novelty value.
I found this channle from James Gurney shouting it out on the draftsmen podcast and i can not be more happy to see it. I just wrapped up an art history class that left me sorely disappointed but in the last week ive been going through your videos and learn quite a but about art and some about history. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Hello and I'm grateful to James Gurney for his kind comments. And now I'm grateful to you for yours. I like to think I'm covering territory others largely ignore for some reason.
Hello and there are many similarities between the two. I had considered Plauen for inclusion but there's virtually nothing other than the father and son strip so I figured it would be fairly boring. At least Soglow did quite a bit of other stuff or I wouldn't have included him either.
Wonderful installment! I always enjoy seeing you feature artists that caught my attention as a young illustrator. As the years go by and my career extends, I tend to forget the enthusiasm I had as young artist when discovering these talented individuals. Watching this today, I was reminded of how much Albert Dorne informs my handling of clothing on the figure, even as recently as work I've done this week. Yet he hasn't come to mind for quite a while. Keep up this great channel, PB...I'll keep spreading the word of your work here.
Hello and my gratitude for your continued support for the channel. Here's a story you might not know about Dorne. Apparently he was in discussion with Andy Warhol (when Warhol was an illustrator) and he asserted pompously that art should be about 'more than mere drawing'. Dorne replied "Pardon me Andy but there's nothing f***ing mere about drawing". Priceless.
@@petebeard Thank you for that story PB. That really sums up the two schools of thinking I've encountered in my life: the highly conceptual vs the highly practical. I attended the School of the Art Institute of Chicago (high concept) but my career has entirely been in illustration (storyboards and comics) which is exclusively composed of colleagues who attended the America Academy of Art (high practicality). But I've always leaned towards narrative art.
And the hits keep coming...! Seriously Pete, still thankful that you are able to showcase even more of these amazing talents. Great to see that after these past 4 years (I was fortunate to be one of your early subscribers), that your tremendous work has now grown your number of subscribers to just under 29,000 - you must know by now that you are doing something right and that it is appreciated! As always - keep up the great work and Thanks (and take care!). Terry (from regional Australia).
Hello again and I really appreciate your enthusiasm for the channel - and your enduring support. I have to say that I have found it greatly rewarding that views and subscriptions have risen to a level I never imagined would happen. I have no plans to jack it in and the list of heroes just keeps on getting longer...
Hello again, and I had known about the Little King strip but not that it had been animated. I love the fact that you don't need to be able to draw well to be a successful illustrator.
Le Monnier's advertising posters are some of my favorites. You can even pick up prints in the hobby shops if you know where to look. And Albert Dorne is, if I recall correctly, cited by James Gurney as one of his influences. Absolutely tragic he died so comparatively young.
Hi again. As I said in the video I don't know for a fact but if Le Monnier only went into comics because he was running out of steam as a poster artist it's a great pity. But as someone who also had to do a fair share of less than thrilling work to stay fed I would naturally empathise with him, wouldn't I?
Another superb episode! Your low key but perceptive narration adds so much to the often astonishing images! I’ve seen a few ‘silent’ compilations of Images, but they are not a patch on yours!
I used to think that I knew a lot about most of the great illustrators, but this series has really opened my eyes. It turns out that I have missed a lot of great artists by being focused mostly on American illustration. Thanks for the education! I love your videos. I wonder, is there a master list showing the contents of each episode?
Hello and thanks for your appreciation. I think we can all be accused to one extent or another of being more immersed in our own cultural identity, and in that regard it's something I'm trying to remedy. I don't want to create the impression that I already knew about all these illustrators - I haven't done the maths but I'd be surprised if it was more than 50%. It's been an eye opening and humbling experience. Regarding a master list the best I can offer for now is if you go to the channel page and select videos every one of the unsung series lists who's in each instalment. You may need to scroll down to reveal them in some cases but a couple of screengrabs would give a kind of record of who's who.
Hello and if memeory serves (it doesn't always) it began with the first one. I know it's not always a horse but it came from the idea of the hero on his mount, and I've been playing with the notion ever since.
Pete, another stunner. You are an International Treasure! Thank you for all the work you do in putting these together for us...thank God someone is sorting it all out. I have no doubt this series will be recognized as one of the most important series ever. In addition to the historical and technical details, I hope your viewers will try “illustration” out themselves and leave the computer for watching and the ink stained desk for partIcipating. Next letter you write put a little picture in it. (Hint, do the picture first and write around it😺
Hello again and many thanks for your continued enthusiasm for the channel. Some younger viewers have said the content has inspired their own work so I'll take that as a positive thing. I'm sure it's me being thick but I don't understand your reference to a little picture in a letter. Can you clarify?
@@petebeard sorry...my darling wife was rushing me off somewhere...I just meant to say that people don’t have to be professional illustrators to illustrate, and should not only keep handwritten letter writing alive, but to illustrate them too, and that one way to overcome reticence about it if you are shy, is to start with the illustration so you feel it is “good enough”, then, write around it. Envelopes are not expensive ways to experiment either!
@@Tanzotown Hi again and thanks for that. I'm ashamed to admit I can't remember when I last wrote a letter - probably the 80s. But funnily enough I did used to draw comical images on them to help the narrative.
Hello Pete! In the video of Dorne you've commented that he really use any form of models to make his fantastics illustrations .... I been trying to remember the name of a series of books for illustrators - with metalic binding - usually common in advertising agencies, each one had different fotographic topics: as hands, faces with different expression gestures, reunion of people...women, etc, etc. I remember their palid green plastic cover....but, I can't remember the collection name. Have you seen any like this, can you help me. Thanks for another excellent material.
Hello again Gabriel. I don't know the particular book you mention but I have seen others which had photo poses. In fact for a while I used to use one myself when working. But my work was usually not 'realistic' so it wasn't that much use to me. I'm pretty certain there wouldn't have been any such books in Dorne's day though. If he worked from photos you can bet he took them.
I'll continue my search....my memory fade....but not my desire to find this gesture's book collection. I hope to give you some information asap. And this is because today I really understand how important are this references....it's better late than never.
Re: 11:47 Dorne's use of photography. According to Forty Illustrators and How They Work, Dorne worked from a large library (sometimes called a morgue) of reference material. Ever aware of wasted time, Dorne's assistant, after conference, would gather what was needed into a folder for him to use. Only a specific need for photo reference would prompt him to shoot a model or props. He also never employed art specialists (for cars, for example), he painted everything. And he loathed the use of airbrushes.
My favourite story about him is that he was arguing with Andy Warhol about the nature of illustration when Warhol claimed that "it should be about more than mere drawing". Dorne replied "Pardon me Andy but there's nothing ****ing mere about drawing." Priceless.
Brilliant stuff as usual Pete! I'm sure this has been commented on before, but is the theme music at the beginning of this series an arrangement of Bowie's Heroes? The clue is in the series name yes? Lovely arrangement either way.
Hello and actually you're the first person to mention it. And yes it's my own humble re-working of the opening bars of that masterpiece (thank God you can't copyright two chords!).
Hello and the answer is henry Le Monnier. It's extracted from a poster titled 'automobiles unic' and that shoud locate it on a google search if you want to see where I took it from.
I'm not sure about models but Albert Dorne was known for having a vast cuttings morgue and employing someone to maintain and update it. Ever the perfectionist, I'm inclined to think Mr Dorne would have shot reference for any assignment that required specific poses/costumes. He was particularly known for his multi figure illustrations, compiling those from scrap files I'd have thought would be very time consuming and Dorne was well known for his hard nosed but professional business attitude.
Hello and many thanks for your comment and insight about Dorne's methods. I didn't know about his approach but the cuttings archive makes a lot of sense. It's a source of some frustration to me that biographers rarely get into an illustrator's technical and practical approaches.
When I was a kid in the '60's I dreamed of getting the Famous Artists School course (thanks to the relentless ads in the comic books!), I even sent in my "Draw This" cartoon character to see if I had "what it took" ... well, of course I did (said the response) and for X amount of $$'s I could enroll ... well, that X amount of $$'s was a deal breaker... *sigh*
Hello and I too used to study those ads in the back of Superman comics in the early 60s. I must admit I'd have been more impressed if the drawing at the top of the page wasn't so poor. But being British I had no idea what a 'zip code' was so I figured it was for Americans only.
I hope one day 50 years from now I am posted on some future unsung hero video, LOL. That would be great. I hope I don't have as grisly an end as many artists seem to have though. I will use these videos as learning material of what to watch out for.
Hello and who knows? You would think many of these illustrators would still be admired quite widely. But so many are poorly remembered while some lesser talents seem to get all the attention.
Uhoh, I just upclicked, and it turned to 666. The piano appears to be going through the changes of Body And Soul for the Martin Claus segment. Pete,since these are considered unsung heroes, does that mean you won't do a Robert Riggs episode? I found a good collection of his work in a double issue of Life about New York.
Hello again and thanks for your recent comments. I must admit I had to laugh when I saw that the best selling point about the east coast was that it wasn't as wet as the west. And regarding Robert Riggs you have introduced me to yet another I had no knowledge of, and thanks for that. A casual look shows he was born in the right period to qualify, and if I'd never heard of him then that's unsung enough for me. But I'm hedging my bets because the same casual look suggests perhaps too much of an artist and not enough of an illustrator. But my genuine gratitude to you and I hope a more detailed look proves me wrong.
Hello and if the flattering comments are anything to go by I should have been a voice-over artist instead of an illustrator. I would almost certainly have made more money...
Glad you are continuing the series! I remember Soglow very well. But that a Marxist (or former Marxist?) is responsible for that appealing "Little King?" If the aliens ever establish formal contact we will export Irony to them, because this planet produces way too much for home consumption! BTW, nice work with the German.
Hello and thanks a lot for your suggestions. Bouda has already been featured in unsung heroes 18 and I really admire the work of Adolf Born. Unfortunately he and the others you name were born too late to qualify for inclusion. There's no reason you would know this but when I started I told myself to stop with those born 1910 or before. I had to stop somewhere and as it is I've still got more to do than I've already done. Even so I always like finding out about previously unknown illustrators from around the world so I'm grateful for the names.
Hello again and I'm happy to tell you that I had no idea this man existed, and he is immediately added to the list. I have never featured anyone specialising in paleontological art so I will put him nearer the front of the line. Many thanks for this.
Hello and thanks for the appreciation. The image is taken from a poster by featured illustrator Henri Le Monnier. The original poster image is viewable if you just search his name on google.
Your videos are lectures. A World-Wide academy for anyone who loves and feels illustration. Thanks for it all!!
Hello and thaks a lot. I must say that although I'm not exactly viral it beats trying to get the interest of a roomful of students, half of whom are texting their friends.
From China!love your videos!
Hello again and thanks a lot. It's good to know the channel is watched in China.
More treats and treasures. Thank you so much.
Hi again. Thanks for continuing to watch the channel. It's great to know some viewers are in it for the long haul.
@@petebeard Absolutely my pleasure. Every video a treat.
Another fabulous episode. Thanks Pete!
Hi Mark and thanks as ever. Onwards and upwards I hope.
Really interesting styles. I've always loved the clean cut and extremely stylised looks. Thank you for another video 😁
Hello again and I'm very pleased you're still following the channel and finding new illustrators.
Thank you for finally doing a segment on Albert Dorne!
Hello and sorry it took so long. There are very few i won't get round to in the end but the list is currently more than I've already covered so some will necessarily be at the tail end of the queue.
I love making breakfast to your videos before I start any new drawing :))))
Hello and I like to think the channel makes a good strart to the day!
Remarkable as always ..
Can't believe I had no recollection of Albert Dorne.
Thank you so much !
Hello and yes he was quite something I think. But much overlooked - probably because of Rockwell's shadow.
@@petebeard Reminds me of some of the great composers who were overshadowed by their contemporaries. J.N. Hummel comes to mind.
He had the misfortune (?) of being taught by Mozart and competing with Beethoven, Haydn and Schubert. Few people remember him today ...
As you state in your video though, Albert Dorne seems to have been at least as good as, if not better than, Rockwell.
I will be exploring his work.
Thanks again.
@@Ellesmere888 Well I for one have never heard of him, but I'll have a listen on youtube. Funnily enough I've never bothered with classical music until I started making the videos and realised it can make a decent backing track. And I've even started to like some of it (although I'm still a blues, soul and country man at heart.)
@@petebeard I was fortunate in having a good guide for classical music, my now deceased mother-in-law.
As you do for me & others for illustrators, she did for me with composers.
What you do is valuable; never forget that.
Like many other followers here, I can't help but smile when I see a new video pop up. Thank you Pete, these are remarkable. LOL showing my age as well, I collected those comics with the ad for art school.
Until next time indeed :-)
Hello and my continued gratitude for your appreciation. As a teenager I saw that ad and wished I could be American and join the course.
I recently just stopped gawking and fanboy-ing over Al Dorne's art and now i see him here again lol , great video keep up the good work !
Yeah. I'm loving the pencil work.
Hello again and I assume you mean Dorne's drawing. Remarkable stuff worthy of the renaissance.
oops ... sorry about that. I was replyimg to Mr Cypher not Mr Pineda if my reply sounds like Joe Biden.
@@petebeard nobody can be as bad as Biden.
Thank you for this wonderful series. I've come across so many great artists and styles I'd never heard of because of you .
Hello and that is music to my ears. It's really good to know the channel is spreading knowledge of these illustrators.
I am ever so grateful for every video you make. Thank you
Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. It really does keep me motivated when viewers express their appreciation.
The way they drew clean lineart and detailed works before computer is really unfathomable!
Hello and I'll assume that your comment is an indication that you are what might be considered a young person. I was among the last generation of illustrators who started work before desktop computers arrved in 1984. And I went from traditional to digital in the 90s. With hindsight I wish I hadn't. Computers make it too easy and visual character is much harder to establish.
thank you for rescuing these heroes, true guides and masters of illustration
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. It's good to know I'm achieving what I set out to do.
@@petebeard I really appreciate the rescue you do because I do something similar around here on my facebok and my channels. I rescue testimonies, vestiges, works of yesterday and I show them. I used to give talks or conferences on the history of Chilean comics and make exhibitions of my comic magazines. I also draw. Greetings from Chile!!!
@@therealcapitanchile Hello again, and I'm glad that you are also spreading knowledge to others about the work of illustrators. I think we are both doing something good.
I remember seeing Dorne's illustrations in back issues but had no idea who the artist was. And, my gosh! Otto Soglow! I read about the Little King when I was in High School in the 70s! And right after that I found a newspaper which was running "The Little King," (which Soglow was still drawing!) Thanks for another wonderful video!
Hi again. Both Dorne and Soglow seem to have been the best liked in this instalment, and I suppose that's the beauty of illustration -draughtsamnship of the highest calibre through to hardly any at all. What an inclusive artform it is.
what a great series of videos you provide us. Thank you so much. Your commentary voice is also really nice and relaxing
Hello and many thanks for your positive comment about the channel, and flattering comment about my voice.
Four more amazing artists. Thank you.
Hello and I'm glad you think so. Not at the bottom of the barrel yet.
Hi Pete... Dorne is my favorite of this video. I was a comic book collector in my youth and I clearly remember his ad for his art school on the back of each comic book issue. His detail did rival that of Rockwell, shame he died young. Brings back the memories and joy of those comic book collections. Thanks again.
Hi John. Yes I believe it's what's known as a no-brainer that you would go for Dorne. I used to see those ads in the American comicsand wish I could join the school.
Only found this wonderful series recently, so have enjoyed catching up😁 Thank you for the chance to see work by artists I had never heard of. 👍👍
Hello and thanks for your positive comment and subscription. I;m glad you appreciate the channel content.
Wonderful episode. I was delighted to see Albert Dorne showcased. Awhile back I bought a copy of his Famous Artist's Course off Amazon. Looking forward to more great content!
Thanks as ever. What a great thought that his teaching continues so long after his demise.
Fascinating and informative as always, many thanks.
Hi again and I'm glad it caught your interest.
I'm really loving these! It's so nice to stop what I'm doing and get a little art break! Thanks!
Hello again and thanks for the comment. I'm glad you are continuing to watch the channel.
Always enjoy your videos. Just needed to drop in again to tell you so.
Hello and drop in any time you like.
Great stuff, keep them coming. 😊👍
Hello and thanks. No sign of stopping just yet...
It is getting redundant to say thank you , but thank you. You are providing such a great service. I just love these images so much.
Hello and I have to say that from my side of the equation it's never redundant to express positive responses to the channel content. Viewer feedback is really helpful in keeping me motivated.
Thank you for posting this material. I live and worked in a totally different world, but this is fascinating and you showcase it in an engaging manner! Cheers!
Hello to you and it's very pleasing to hear that people with no vested interest in the subject can still get something from the channel. Thanks a lot.
Once again Peter ...only Albert Dorne is the only artist i know absolutely fascinating!! Thank you.
Hello again. I must say I had never previously known about Martin Claus - a real revelation for me.
I know Peter so many fantastic artists it is criminal how illustrators
are forgotten ...thanks to you my knowledge of these people is growing .
Thank you again Pete.
You're more than welcome. It's greatthat the channel is appreciated.
Another wonderful video. I loved the Little King, each episode was a short morality play and he always resolved as the hero. Thanks Pete for another great video.
Hi Albert. Hope you're well. I think I owe you an e-mail. It's a funny thing (to me at least) but quite a few people have expressed admiration for The Little King strip. I do love the fact that people who arent great as draughtsmen can still be highly successful in illustration.
The pure talent of these commercial artists...having to produce weekly strip cartoons and pieces for ads..very clever..no computer enhancing their work...
Thank you for this overview of artists from the past..⭐
Hello and thanks for the appreciative comment. And how refreshing to hear the term 'commercial artist' not used as an insult.
I was about to pack it in for the night, but this popped up. I really dug the last two illustrators, how one could reduce and simplify, while the other was highly detailed.
Hello again and thanks as usual. For me it was Martin Claus - a real revelation. On the other hand he was the only one I didn't already know about so it might just be novelty value.
Thank you!!
Hello and I'm pleased you enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Thank you Pete. Great artists, great lecture!
Hello again and many thanks for your continued support.
Thank you for this wonderful video! it´s an amazing series
Hello and many thanks for your positive comment about the channel. It's good to know.
I found this channle from James Gurney shouting it out on the draftsmen podcast and i can not be more happy to see it. I just wrapped up an art history class that left me sorely disappointed but in the last week ive been going through your videos and learn quite a but about art and some about history. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Hello and I'm grateful to James Gurney for his kind comments. And now I'm grateful to you for yours. I like to think I'm covering territory others largely ignore for some reason.
The Little King reminds me of the Vater & Sohn comic my dad used to show me when I was small. Those were really nice.
Hello and there are many similarities between the two. I had considered Plauen for inclusion but there's virtually nothing other than the father and son strip so I figured it would be fairly boring. At least Soglow did quite a bit of other stuff or I wouldn't have included him either.
Love his content he does everything so well good job Peter Beard watched everything you have done
Hello and thanks for your dedication to the cause. It means a lot to me.
@@petebeard you are very welcome
Wonderful installment! I always enjoy seeing you feature artists that caught my attention as a young illustrator. As the years go by and my career extends, I tend to forget the enthusiasm I had as young artist when discovering these talented individuals. Watching this today, I was reminded of how much Albert Dorne informs my handling of clothing on the figure, even as recently as work I've done this week. Yet he hasn't come to mind for quite a while. Keep up this great channel, PB...I'll keep spreading the word of your work here.
Hello and my gratitude for your continued support for the channel. Here's a story you might not know about Dorne. Apparently he was in discussion with Andy Warhol (when Warhol was an illustrator) and he asserted pompously that art should be about 'more than mere drawing'. Dorne replied "Pardon me Andy but there's nothing f***ing mere about drawing". Priceless.
@@petebeard Thank you for that story PB. That really sums up the two schools of thinking I've encountered in my life: the highly conceptual vs the highly practical. I attended the School of the Art Institute of Chicago (high concept) but my career has entirely been in illustration (storyboards and comics) which is exclusively composed of colleagues who attended the America Academy of Art (high practicality). But I've always leaned towards narrative art.
And the hits keep coming...! Seriously Pete, still thankful that you are able to showcase even more of these amazing talents. Great to see that after these past 4 years (I was fortunate to be one of your early subscribers), that your tremendous work has now grown your number of subscribers to just under 29,000 - you must know by now that you are doing something right and that it is appreciated! As always - keep up the great work and Thanks (and take care!). Terry (from regional Australia).
Hello again and I really appreciate your enthusiasm for the channel - and your enduring support. I have to say that I have found it greatly rewarding that views and subscriptions have risen to a level I never imagined would happen. I have no plans to jack it in and the list of heroes just keeps on getting longer...
Hermoso, mil gracias por tu gran trabajo investigativo
Hola y muchas gracias por tu comentario. Espero que los subtítulos tengan sentido en español.
Whoa I remember that Little King from a Betty Boop short cartoon!
Hello again, and I had known about the Little King strip but not that it had been animated. I love the fact that you don't need to be able to draw well to be a successful illustrator.
Le Monnier's advertising posters are some of my favorites. You can even pick up prints in the hobby shops if you know where to look. And Albert Dorne is, if I recall correctly, cited by James Gurney as one of his influences. Absolutely tragic he died so comparatively young.
Hi again. As I said in the video I don't know for a fact but if Le Monnier only went into comics because he was running out of steam as a poster artist it's a great pity. But as someone who also had to do a fair share of less than thrilling work to stay fed I would naturally empathise with him, wouldn't I?
Hope everything’s alright and you’re doing well! Now. Off to watch your entertaining and informative work ~ Peace
Hi again and I'm doing surprisingly well for a man of my age and former habits. I hope you too are well and enjoy the video.
Another superb episode! Your low key but perceptive narration adds so much to the often astonishing images! I’ve seen a few ‘silent’ compilations of Images, but they are not a patch on yours!
Hello again and my continued thanks for your continued appreciation. It bucks me up no end.
Fántastic, Pete !
Thx
Hello and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I used to think that I knew a lot about most of the great illustrators, but this series has really opened my eyes. It turns out that I have missed a lot of great artists by being focused mostly on American illustration. Thanks for the education! I love your videos. I wonder, is there a master list showing the contents of each episode?
Hello and thanks for your appreciation. I think we can all be accused to one extent or another of being more immersed in our own cultural identity, and in that regard it's something I'm trying to remedy. I don't want to create the impression that I already knew about all these illustrators - I haven't done the maths but I'd be surprised if it was more than 50%. It's been an eye opening and humbling experience. Regarding a master list the best I can offer for now is if you go to the channel page and select videos every one of the unsung series lists who's in each instalment. You may need to scroll down to reveal them in some cases but a couple of screengrabs would give a kind of record of who's who.
I just now noticed that, since Unsung Heroes 5, almost every thumbnail is a horse illustration!
Hello and if memeory serves (it doesn't always) it began with the first one. I know it's not always a horse but it came from the idea of the hero on his mount, and I've been playing with the notion ever since.
Pete, another stunner. You are an International Treasure! Thank you for all the work you do in putting these together for us...thank God someone is sorting it all out. I have no doubt this series will be recognized as one of the most important series ever. In addition to the historical and technical details, I hope your viewers will try “illustration” out themselves and leave the computer for watching and the ink stained desk for partIcipating. Next letter you write put a little picture in it. (Hint, do the picture first and write around it😺
Hello again and many thanks for your continued enthusiasm for the channel. Some younger viewers have said the content has inspired their own work so I'll take that as a positive thing. I'm sure it's me being thick but I don't understand your reference to a little picture in a letter. Can you clarify?
@@petebeard sorry...my darling wife was rushing me off somewhere...I just meant to say that people don’t have to be professional illustrators to illustrate, and should not only keep handwritten letter writing alive, but to illustrate them too, and that one way to overcome reticence about it if you are shy, is to start with the illustration so you feel it is “good enough”, then, write around it. Envelopes are not expensive ways to experiment either!
@@Tanzotown Hi again and thanks for that. I'm ashamed to admit I can't remember when I last wrote a letter - probably the 80s. But funnily enough I did used to draw comical images on them to help the narrative.
Hello Pete! In the video of Dorne you've commented that he really use any form of models to make his fantastics illustrations .... I been trying to remember the name of a series of books for illustrators - with metalic binding - usually common in advertising agencies, each one had different fotographic topics: as hands, faces with different expression gestures, reunion of people...women, etc, etc.
I remember their palid green plastic cover....but, I can't remember the collection name. Have you seen any like this, can you help me. Thanks for another excellent material.
Hello again Gabriel. I don't know the particular book you mention but I have seen others which had photo poses. In fact for a while I used to use one myself when working. But my work was usually not 'realistic' so it wasn't that much use to me. I'm pretty certain there wouldn't have been any such books in Dorne's day though. If he worked from photos you can bet he took them.
I'll continue my search....my memory fade....but not my desire to find this gesture's book collection. I hope to give you some information asap.
And this is because today I really understand how important are this references....it's better late than never.
You are so Superb!
I'll settle for quite good, mon ami.
Re: 11:47 Dorne's use of photography. According to Forty Illustrators and How They Work, Dorne worked from a large library (sometimes called a morgue) of reference material. Ever aware of wasted time, Dorne's assistant, after conference, would gather what was needed into a folder for him to use. Only a specific need for photo reference would prompt him to shoot a model or props. He also never employed art specialists (for cars, for example), he painted everything. And he loathed the use of airbrushes.
My favourite story about him is that he was arguing with Andy Warhol about the nature of illustration when Warhol claimed that "it should be about more than mere drawing". Dorne replied "Pardon me Andy but there's nothing ****ing mere about drawing." Priceless.
@@petebeard Hahahah, I love that!
these are great stuff, keep it up
Hello and thanks a lot. No sign of running out of steam just yet.
always instructive
Hello and thanks for your comment. It's good to know viewers appreciate the content.
Brilliant stuff as usual Pete!
I'm sure this has been commented on before, but is the theme music at the beginning of this series an arrangement of Bowie's Heroes?
The clue is in the series name yes?
Lovely arrangement either way.
Hello and actually you're the first person to mention it. And yes it's my own humble re-working of the opening bars of that masterpiece (thank God you can't copyright two chords!).
@@petebeard Amazing! I idolized Bowie as a youngster in the 70's.
Your choice of music in your vids is always great.
Please can you tell me the artist who did the sagittarius in the thumbnail and the introduction? Thank you.
Hello and the answer is henry Le Monnier. It's extracted from a poster titled 'automobiles unic' and that shoud locate it on a google search if you want to see where I took it from.
@@petebeard Thank you very much.
mutualart lists Claus's vitals as 1892 - 1975. If someone can point me toward Sources for Claus I appreciate it
The best I can suggest is to follow the leads from a google search. But they probably won't take you very far due to his obscure status.
I'm not sure about models but Albert Dorne was known for having a vast cuttings morgue and employing someone to maintain and update it.
Ever the perfectionist, I'm inclined to think Mr Dorne would have shot reference for any assignment that required specific poses/costumes. He was particularly known for his multi figure illustrations, compiling those from scrap files I'd have thought would be very time consuming and Dorne was well known for his hard nosed but professional business attitude.
Hello and many thanks for your comment and insight about Dorne's methods. I didn't know about his approach but the cuttings archive makes a lot of sense. It's a source of some frustration to me that biographers rarely get into an illustrator's technical and practical approaches.
When I was a kid in the '60's I dreamed of getting the Famous Artists School course (thanks to the relentless ads in the comic books!), I even sent in my "Draw This" cartoon character to see if I had "what it took" ... well, of course I did (said the response) and for X amount of $$'s I could enroll ... well, that X amount of $$'s was a deal breaker... *sigh*
Hello and I too used to study those ads in the back of Superman comics in the early 60s. I must admit I'd have been more impressed if the drawing at the top of the page wasn't so poor. But being British I had no idea what a 'zip code' was so I figured it was for Americans only.
I hope one day 50 years from now I am posted on some future unsung hero video, LOL. That would be great. I hope I don't have as grisly an end as many artists seem to have though. I will use these videos as learning material of what to watch out for.
Hello and who knows? You would think many of these illustrators would still be admired quite widely. But so many are poorly remembered while some lesser talents seem to get all the attention.
Uhoh, I just upclicked, and it turned to 666. The piano appears to be going through the changes of Body And Soul for the Martin Claus segment. Pete,since these are considered unsung heroes, does that mean you won't do a Robert Riggs episode? I found a good collection of his work in a double issue of Life about New York.
Hello again and thanks for your recent comments. I must admit I had to laugh when I saw that the best selling point about the east coast was that it wasn't as wet as the west. And regarding Robert Riggs you have introduced me to yet another I had no knowledge of, and thanks for that. A casual look shows he was born in the right period to qualify, and if I'd never heard of him then that's unsung enough for me. But I'm hedging my bets because the same casual look suggests perhaps too much of an artist and not enough of an illustrator. But my genuine gratitude to you and I hope a more detailed look proves me wrong.
Narrate my life in your voice please!
Hello and if the flattering comments are anything to go by I should have been a voice-over artist instead of an illustrator. I would almost certainly have made more money...
Glad you are continuing the series! I remember Soglow very well. But that a Marxist (or former Marxist?) is responsible for that appealing "Little King?" If the aliens ever establish formal contact we will export Irony to them, because this planet produces way too much for home consumption! BTW, nice work with the German.
Hello again. There are some other American illustrators in the pipeline who seemed to think it was a good idea too. And thanks for the German tuition.
few czech names worth checking out: Jiří Kalousek, Cyril Bouda, Jiří Winter Neprakta, Adolf Born, Jindra Čapek
Hello and thanks a lot for your suggestions. Bouda has already been featured in unsung heroes 18 and I really admire the work of Adolf Born. Unfortunately he and the others you name were born too late to qualify for inclusion. There's no reason you would know this but when I started I told myself to stop with those born 1910 or before. I had to stop somewhere and as it is I've still got more to do than I've already done. Even so I always like finding out about previously unknown illustrators from around the world so I'm grateful for the names.
@@petebeard darn...then I have another name: Zdeněk Burian
Hello again and I'm happy to tell you that I had no idea this man existed, and he is immediately added to the list. I have never featured anyone specialising in paleontological art so I will put him nearer the front of the line. Many thanks for this.
James Garney bring me here!!!
Hello and I'm indebted to him for giving me a mention. I hope you find plenty to interest you.
Great video series! Thank you. May I ask who is the artist from the archer in the beginning of the video? Thank you!
Hello and thanks for the appreciation. The image is taken from a poster by featured illustrator Henri Le Monnier. The original poster image is viewable if you just search his name on google.
@@petebeard Thank you very much!