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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2023
- I wasn’t sure how this knife would perform. Now I know and am eager to share this knowledge with you! This review is in a reverse order: starting with how it performs after all the rigorous, borderline nasty tests that I put it through. Enjoy and let me know what you think about this format.
This video is for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as an instruction or user guideline. The tests in this video should not be attempted by anyone!
#edc #knife #sharp #survival #bushcraft #tacticalknife #combatknife - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thank you very much for this wonderful feedback to the Venture! Greetings from Switzerland
I'd love a collaboration project between two of my favorite channels !
Felix please do it !
Interesting! Herewith a few comments (not criticism, merely my own opinion).
Sheath: who cares if it rattles a bit? it's of NO consequence to the functionality of the knife. [And there is a Felix-fix if you're fixated about it.]
Also, no matter what physical gymnastics you get up to, it's highly unlikely that the knife will spontaneously jump upwards out of the sheath. If the dangler bit is fixed to the backing sheath it's actually quite cool.
So, as a full flat grind knife with a pretty fine edge, it's never going to be a great wood-splitter (much like ESEE knives of the same size, except better steel). One of the reasons I carry a decent splitter anyway (Cold Steel Trail Master!) is so I don't have to use a bushcrafting knife for survival/heavy-duty tasks, that are not really suited to knives anyway. [Use wedgers instead!]
When doing normal cutting/carving duties (as you point out) the knife excels! That's what it was designed for (despite an over-zealous Marketing campaign over-selling the product!).
What disappointed me somewhat was no test of its featherstick-making capability. There is a video on TH-cam demonstrating how it actually outperformed the Mora Garberg easily under the same conditions. I was hoping to see how it would do for you. (A video, maybe?).
Felix's advice about the use of the knife is based on VERY solid research and years of experience of the outdoors, and tons of bushcrafting projects successfully completed with Victorinox knives. One would do well to follow his advice.
Used within the design parameters of the knife, it will perform splendidly for many years.
Regards, Dennis
You said it well.❤
Hey, this review was pretty positive for my channel, so it is surprisingly good outcome for a knife that is being overpriced and oversold to the unsuspecting youths across the globe. One thing you all need to be aware of is that Felix films behind his farmhouse, close enough to hear lawnmower and rooster in the background. Making spoons, nut crackers and picnic tables isn’t an outdoors skill, it is a woodcraft skill, which he is indeed pretty good at. The other reviewer said it well, this is a kitchen knife with some outdoor skills. But most Victorinox products fall into a souvenir category, so this is definitely a step in the right direction!
But in way too many words. I guess comment writers have more time on their hands than content creators? It takes 2 hours to create a 1 minute short and 20-40 hours to make a 15-20 minute video. His comment could have been boiled down to “I love Felix and your review is lacking feather sticking”
@@CuttingBoardRx
Have a nice day!
You're such a grumpy fella. Felix is a treasure.
He is! I’m so happy he liked this video enough to comment and thank me!
I appreciate the work you put in for we who wish to know. I enjoy well designed tools and rigorous testing thereof. The venture is a lovely tool with well thought out features from a reliable brand that retains value. Every tool has its limits. I just want to know what they are.
I always carry a slicer and a scandi where convenient. A Helle Nyling and a medium SAK. An Ahti Tika with an Opinel #9. A Leuku with a Kephart. Both Helle Måndra. A Leuku with the Venture. I might abuse a tool in an emergency so it is good to have good tools and know their limits. Cheers!
You are mentioning some of my favorite knives, Sir! Having grown by the Golf of Finland, scandi knives are at the top of my list!
Thank you for this review. I have the knife but after those other reviews I've been nervous to use it. All good now. Enjoyed the format BTW.
Not every outdoor knife in existence needs to be made for battening through wood
Knowing what tool to use for what job is as important as anything else in the bush
Yes. Anyone with a brain can look at this knife and tell that it's designed more for light kitchen / camp work. Asking it to baton is like asking my Honda Accord to take on an off-road mountain trail.
@@21_Cabbage_ starving for attention?
@@21_Cabbage_ So what dummy would pay $100 for a kitchen knife? This knife is a rip off just face it. A mora is a fraction of the price and just as good, if not better.
Really cool,man. I had to sub. Reasonable, objective and thoughtful input.
Good review sir, well done.
I’m guessing they didn’t wanna make the venture a bushcrafting monster because that would compete with Victorinox’s higher up line of fixed blade knives. This is more or less a generic fixed blade with “some” survival features. I like to call these kinds of knives crafting knives where they’re excellent for small and light projects, but aren’t suited for extreme or heavy survival situations.
I call it the Immler Messer for two reasons: if Felix didn’t put it on his channel, nobody would ever notice it existed, such a non-awe inspiring design this is. And the second reason, Felix totally represents the exact person that would buy it - a middle aged man with plenty of disposable income and aspirations to catch up on all the adventures of youth he missed out on, while pursuing a lucrative office career. A real adventurer would spend $16 on a Morakniv and buy a few extra pairs of socks with the rest of cash.
Shocking cutting performance. You know I'm more used to soft carbon steels like 1075 or 1095, so I couldn't dream about that...
Well I saw videos of that knife popping up but didn't check it out until you reviewed it. You got the best knife tests out there. I would pick one up if I didn't already had too many knives 😂
@@CuttingBoardRx I'm in France, in the greater Paris area, which is NOT a good area for filming in the woods : you can always hear horns and airplanes 😭
@CuttingBoardReviews Sorry missed that reply 🙏
As a rule you can not make fire nor carry blades without purpose in France. 😐
My area is not prone to fires tho, so I legally can with written permission. In the south, open fire are a big no-no, with high forest fire risk and big fines.
Nice review👍! Clearly there's an inconsistency in the heat treatment done by Victorinox.
I will wait a little longer before I buy it just to make sure that they fix this issue. OAL a great knife design.
@@CuttingBoardRx The price in Europe is around 70 Euro's which is not bad in my opinion. I like the fact that they decided to go with a design that is intended more for slicing and with a higher HRC. I think that this is the first production knife that has these characteristics. Most of the commercial knives on the market have a hardness between 57 - 59 HRC. Its thin, its wide, a low angle cutting edge. Will be a great knife if they manage to solve the Heat treatment issue.
@@AlexVBucur What issue is this? Remember that Felix says that the knife has been designed to operate under different parameters than most other knives (as you point out above). When one submits a knife to stresses WAY outside these parameters one expects unusual results. I suspect this is what took place. I'm willing to accept that both the steel choice (Sandvic 14C 28N) and heat treatment are within the high quality standards that Victorinox set themselves. Cases where there are "issues" need to be investigated by Victorinox and results corroborated before I will accept that there was a failure in the quality of either.
It is also interesting to note that in most of the videos of reviews it is mostly the sheath that attracts adverse comment, while the knife seems quite universally accepted, even praised. [Probably the reason for it now being so difficult to obtain one!] Over time we might get more data on the Venture's performance in actual use in the field rather than made-up "tests" under extreme conditions. This will give us a better understanding of its capabilities. If this follows the usual trend of other Victorinox offerings then I think their choices will be vindicated.
Cheers mate!
@dennisleighton2812 Felix actually reached out and thanked me for doing this review, which was very nice of him! He is affiliated with Victorinox so he has to push the “Party Line” but it is clear to me that the knife in my possession exceeds the parameters that were implied by Felix. Obviously, I didn’t conduct the proper fatigue analysis or testing, but it is a low number of cycles item and I believe that there’s a sufficient Design Factor in aka Safety Factor built in the design. On the other hand, the failures in the other videos happened to the knives from two different batches: one had a red handle and the other green. So was it luck or does Victorinox have a heat treat quality issue?
@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for the reply.
As I said before I don't believe the heat treatment issue, as there is not enough control data about the whole situation to be objective. After all, one CAN break just about any knife if you try hard enough. I haven't seen the videos concerned so I can't refute those specific incidents and their results. Let's put it this way - I trust the proven integrity of the Victorinox Company, and the people there. Until they themselves have a definitive finding and make this available, I'll stand by them.
Thanks again.
Clearly you got a good example, the problem as I see it is the lack of consistency from one knife to the
next. It kind of a crap shoot will I get a good one or one that doesn’t hold up ? There is no way to tell until
it fails.
@@CuttingBoardRx I doubt that it's the heat treatment issue. They have a guarantee that protects the company from free loaders and idiots who misuse and damage a product and then cry about it wanting a free replacement.
Lack of QC
I am assuming that the other testers had older versions. Perhaps the manufacturer made changes based on the results/issues reported from the field on TH-cam? Seeing as the others experienced catastrophic failures doing basic tasks, something had to be changed.
Agree, I was wondering what would cause the issues and can only guess, but it seems like the heat treat was not properly done on the first batch
Any steel with that edge geometry would roll and dent with batoning.
Using a flat grind for batoning is operator mistake, end of story.
Bullshit
Venture is great bushcraft/outdoors knife. Great shape, great grind and great materials for what is designed for.
Very interesting video man!
@@CuttingBoardRx knife is for bushcraft, i dont have other idea beside cutting wood and use in in food prep.
Victorinox cashing in on the suckers.
Oh, no, not the tree of doom! Poor Victorinox.
@@CuttingBoardRx Loved it. Great video. Impressive knife. Maybe I missed it, but what is MSRP?
The Victorinox Ventura is a kitchen knife pretending to be a bushcraft knife or pretending to be a survivor knife.
Sounds like a lack of QC by Victorinox on this fixed-blade knife.
I think they fixed the problem
@@CuttingBoardRx I hope so.
Batton? $15.46 small machete with ferro rod, Ozark Trails. It's tough.
Good point! If I may, you may enjoy this channel:
youtube.com/@ARAW-__-?si=7y_SqIQ94SEYfcwX
@@CuttingBoardRx
Thank you, nice info.
Victorinox produces good knives with a pedigree. Nobody should pry, baton or stab a tree with a knife. And I think in 99.9% of cases this is not needed. So respect your knife, let it be any cheap or expensive knife and it will respect you too.
Nobody should sniff poppy flowers! They are for viewing only and in 99.9% of cases only need to be looked at. Especially because one might lose concentration and may miss the comment from Felix Immler, the designer of the knife, who thanked me for the unbiased review.
I do a lot of things to knives on my channel because It is what I do: test knives to find the limits of their performance.
Oh, and there’s absolutely nothing unique or sophisticated about a cheap steel blade overmoulded with cheap plastic.
didn't find a review by @CedricAda, maybe they deleted it....
Apologies for the confusion, I was referring to his tests on 14C28n steel, not this specific knife. I think it’s the best ingot steel for outdoor knives, do you agree?