Yeah no shit, that's pretty obvious. Where is the deeper meaning that would go over someone's head? Like the person said, it went over Joe's head. I'm sure everyone that heard it understood that he isnt dead yet, so not yet his whole life. But what went over Joe's head? Had to be more than that.
Just his extensive knowledge of writers and philosophers and how that influences his work is amazing. Then the paintings. I had no idea he was such a brilliant guy.
0:00 = Los Angeles wildfires, how they’re impacting Joe’s neighborhood. Joe’s love/hate relationship with living in LA. 4:50 = Derren’s Instagram and paintings, photography. Derren talks about being a shy and timid kid, how he got into hypnosis and magic. 13:25 = Derren explains the handshake induction/interrupt as it relates to hypnosis, how he once used diversion tactics to diffuse a potential street fight. 17:55 = Process of hypnosis, psychology of hypnosis and suggestibility. 26:45 = Derren talks about his stage show “Miracle” and experimenting with faith healing, the psychological component of it, and faith healing as a form of hypnosis. 30:35 = The Placebo Effect. Joe discusses the possible impact of having an extremely positive attitude, Derren’s response on the limitations of that by outside reality. 40:00 = Derren discusses his Netflix show “The Push” (or “Pushed to the Edge”), trying to convince someone to kill someone on the show to see if it can be done. 45:15 = Derren discusses his show “Apocalypse”, staging the end of the world for an unknown participant. Near death experiences, how they can positively impact people. 47:25 = Derren discusses his new Netflix show “Sacrifice”. 54:20 = Derren discusses his show “Hero at 30,000 Feet”, convincing a regular person they have to emergency land a plane. 57:40 = How Derren comes up with the concept for a show. 1:05:20 = How fictional narratives from movies give people false expectations with their own lives. Joe discusses how modern humanity has lost touch with nature, particularly our relationship with animals. 1:09:00 = Shamans, the experience of transcendence. The importance of finding meaning in life, even if you’re an Atheist. 1:17:35 = Tyson Fury’s experience with severe depression, how important goal setting was for him to get out of his depression. 1:19:45 = Christianity introducing the idea that human suffering will be rewarded later. Fear of death. 1:23:20 = Needs of the human mind, the need for knowledge, wisdom, inspiration. Jung’s model of psychoanalysis. 1:27:15 = Suggestibility, science of suggestibility and hypnosis. Derren’s show “The Assassin”. Ethical complications of convincing people to do something awful under hypnosis and how it permanently impacts that person. 1:32:20 = FBI tactics for catching potential terrorists. Possibility that hypnosis has been used in the past for “Manchurian Candidate” types of agendas. 1:36:05 = Derren’s book “Happy” (about happiness). The importance of anxiety as a trigger for self-growth. Joe’s belief that happiness comes from embracing difficult tasks. 1:45:15 = Being shy, overly introspective, fear of rejection, anxiety of interactions with people. Disillusionment as a learning tool. Manifestation, luck, genetics, environment all being factors in success. 1:51:20 = The universe as a perspective enhancer. 1:55:25 = Fraudulent “medium/psychic” TV shows. How cults work. People’s need to believe in something even if we know it’s ludicrous. 1:57:45= Derren finding unexpected comfort in the meaninglessness of life, accepting things for the way they are and what you can and can’t control. 2:05:05 = Cultural cycles of rediscovering things. Philosophy of atheism and belief. Podcast wrap-up.
@dfss csss I beg to differ. Joe has had people like Sam Harris on and they are quite close especially on their views on religion. He was also a close friend of Christopher Hitchens, a man I'd see on the podcast above all others. Would be interesting to listen to Steve's experiences with Christopher and his life.
@dfss csss I think he would. Both Hugh Laurie and Atkinson are pretty famous people. I'm also sure Joe does a bit of research before having each guest on.
Joe Rogan you have surpassed yourself by having this amazing guest on. I get the feeling that you will have wished you asked more questions once you’ve watch his back catalogue. He is in his own league. .
@@TheLivirus Eddie bravo a sceptic? Lmao not even close... He buys into every conspiracy wholesale without an ounce of proof. He's the furthest thing from a sceptic.
+dfss csss Tom Cruise being a total nutcase is exactly what would make him an interesting guest. His handlers (Scientology) would never allow it, but his stunt work is all done by him and would be interesting to talk about.
Espically when he made a guy stamp on 19/20 styrophoam cups on the floor when 1 had a knife underneath. He even made him to it barefoot like jigsaw dose with his victims.
Enjoyed this entire podcast so much! Derren Brown is one of my most favourite people. I've read all of his books and watched all of his shows and I truly believe he is one of the most kindest and wisest people on the planet.
He seems to tarnish Darren with the generic magician brush, especially at the start. Joe would be amazed if he watched his shows, because no one isn't.
Merc Swazey 100% Disagree. He saw Derren’s stuff. He was prepared and knows who and what he is. This interview was about getting into the psyche of Derren and how he feels. The man behind the persona. The real Derren, not the charismatic magician and master of suggestion. Just his process. If you find this boring, maybe you need a Derren Brown adventure to wake you up to how good this interview is.
I've been following Derren Brown's brilliant work for years, if you're not hip, definitely go down the rabbit hole and check out some of his stuff. "The Heist" is one of my absolute favorites
The edge or whatever the one where they got people to push someone off a building was absolute rubbish. I call complete bullshit. No one is killing someone just because a group of people tell them some ridiculous story plus a bunch of subliminal messaging.
E. Bayford I have no idea which special of his you’re talking about but it sounds funny. Keep in mind part of what Derren does is make you think certain “tricks” are done certain ways, like through suggestion, when they are actually just variations on real illusions that most stage magicians can do.
Derren mentioned his special, Apocalypse. I paused this podcast to watch it real quick (you can find it on youtube, in his channel, two parts), and holy shit! I ended up cry laughing at the end. It's such an amazing emotional rollercoaster of an experience watching Apocalypse. I highly recommend watching it
If I would have to choose one show as my "all time favourite Derren Brown show" it would have to be his live show "Enigma". If you haven't seen it then I 100% recommend it and I 100% guarantee the ending will blow your mind!
Once you understand he simply uses actors (i.e. the 'unsuspecting subjects') for his specials they lose a lot of their appeal. His stage shows are absolutely phenomenal though
BlakeDeluxe Seriously, that would be a great premise for a screenplay. Like a reimagined version of Michael Douglas The Game with a conspiracy theorist MMA expert as the main character. Maybe with a Darren Brown type character too
Watched this podcast... at some point I fell asleep, then woke up wearing a chicken suit, covered in chocolate pudding, and Derren’s Netflix special had been playing on repeat for hours... I’m assuming this happened to everyone else?
I've been fortunate enough to see Derren Brown a few times. He's such a good showman. If you ever get the chance to see him then I highly recommend it.
Have seen Derren Brown live and admired him for a long time but I still found this surprisingly insightful and crazy interesting. One of my favourites ever.
i feel like im one of the few in america who know who derren is.... i've been following his work for well over a decade. i never really had an idol before i discovered his work, hes the only person on earth id ever call my idol.
@Alpha Centauri congrats on being an asshole, my comment about knowing his work has nothing to do with you and more to do with the fact im happy to see him get exposure in america, not like it was some accomplishment for me to know things outside of your knowledge. so until next time, fuck off.
If you haven't heard of this chap before now, i'd urge you to look up some his previous endeavors. The bloke is absolutely gobsmacking and im not sure how well known he is across the pond.
MrWeeRhys I love the fact how many of us watched him years ago and are still perplexed by him. I’ve yet to find someone as fascinating as him. Love the guy.
@@rokzakrajsek9864 Yes indeed. Somewhat underated atleast in America seemingly. Joe will probably watch a bunch of derrens stuff and want to invite him back on haha.
I was a fan maybe 10 years ago after finding some of his stuff online. but we didn't get much from him until lately when Netflix nabbed up some of his specials.
Al Santos check out his earlier work. I used to watch him as a teen with my friend and I thought he was mesmerizing back then, now he’s just reaffirming it for me. The man is something else.
Always admired how genuine Derren is. What's stood out about his shows over traditional magic is his willingness to be blatant about the fact that this is a trick, it's not magic or of higher power and yet it's still amazing.
Once I'd gotten into a drunken street brawl, trying to break up everyone from fighting. One person knocked my glasses off when he jumped on my back and put me in a choke. I calmly grabbed his wrists, pulled his arms off, turned around and asked him if he could help find my glasses, to which he was confused, then started backing away while yelling that I should get away from him. Hearing Derren tell his story about deflating a situation with a drunk person, my situation back then, now makes a lot more sense to me.
I'm a huge Derren fan. This is by far the most interesting interview i've ever seen him do; I got more insight into Derren's personality from just this interview, than the 18 years I've been watching him
Enjoyed it. I don't think Rogan fully know / appreciate who he was talking to, to the extend I hoped him to. Sure this is not the first mentalist he had on the cast but Darren is a whole different creature.
I could listen to Derren talk all day. So insightful. Read his book, Tricks of the Mind. Some of the anecdotes he gives, exist there, in more detail. One of my favourite books.
Yes! You've jogged some memories in me well done, the remembering 20 cards by using various mmenmonics (sp) and things. Useful stuff, and I love thew way he never ever pretends there is more to what he does than dedication and time.
Been a fan of Derren Brown since I was 12 and I have watched all of his work - fantastic man! Was a nice surprise seeing he was today's guest. I am going to enjoy this podcast immensely!
I ran into Derren Brown on TH-cam years ago. He’s a fantastic entertainer. If people watching this have not seen his shows do yourself a favor and binge them. They are incredible.
Apocalypse was my favourite! Not just for the incredible backstory but the "victims" experience was incredibly emotional to watch. I cried at several points, it was remarkable
I've been obsessed watching all of Derren Brown videos, but I haven't see the great art robbery. TH-cam constantly shows it in my feed,but I keep on scrolling past it...then I see this comment...now I have to watch it
Meh. His stage shows are far superior. I'm not into his tv specials, like apocalypse or heist, they're a bit gimmicky. Still watch them, just didn't get the excitement I do from the stage shows... Speaking of, Svengali was my favourite.
I would love to see Chris Morris on the show, he created some of the best (my favourite for sure) British comedies of all time, i imagine he would have some amazing stories.
Joe rogan had a great chat with Derren Brown but I couldn’t help thinking he knew nothing about him. I know he can’t research all his guests but he would have got so much more out of this if he knew the depths Derren Brown has debunked pseudoscience.
@@williamfenton8246 While I do agree with him, you have to admit the massive plug in of his shows. But I don't think Rogan would do it on purpose, cause at some point Derren asks "Can I talk about Sacrifice?" and Joe goes "You can talk about anything you want". My conspiracy theory is that Derren was trying to make us suggestible to watch his shows, by constantly adding them in the middle of his stories. Which he kind of explained the process of before. Which I think is brilliant if it's true, and not just a shameless constant plug.
Joe has had some mehh podcasts in the past where he is a bit cold/confrontational, or just doesn't let the other person finish all their stories and stuff, but lately he has really been on point (and pretty hilarious too actually). GO JOE
Greatly appreciated this episode. Cheers to all who made it possible. If anyone ever has the chance to see Derren Brown live then please allow yourself the experience. Peace.
Joe please have him on again after watching a few of his specials, and at least one of his stage shows like enigma or svengali. Trust me, you will have enough to talk about for hours.
It's because he wants the guest to feel comfortable in explaining what naturally comes first instead of it all being scripted. ..plus Joe does sometimes 3 podcast a day so that would definitely get hard to remember everyone's story plus it would have a scripted feeling instead of free flowing
@isitwrongtoeat sand. I think you gotta cut some slack for the fact that Derren isn't very big in the USA. Some of Joe's questions indicated that he'd watched a couple of Derren's specials. He'd made some effort.
Why. Anything he has to say he can say there. We didn't do the research either. Let's talk, let's have a fun conversation that we don't know where it'll go. He's not the Queen, he doesn't need a red carpet and a formal interview. That style of interview went away and for good reason: it fucked sucked and was soul sucking.
The way Derren talks about people impacting our lives, particularly celebrities we’ve never met, is very resonante because Derren is that person to me. The book is incredible and I’ve always been a fan of his shows, they carry such weight with me
I done a double take upon reading who the guest was, had no idea Joe was having Derren on. Been watching his stuff for years, very good guest to have on :)
How can one compare this interview with the librarian Tyson(smart Ars). I love this dude. What a specimen of humanity. A true wild orchid in this rotten swump.
Tyson Fury "I was depressed, I found God, a higher power and purpose, I'm ok now" Joe Rogan "mmmm....interesting, so goal setting is how you overcame depression."
At around 1:08:52 Derren tells a story from the book The Spell of the Sensuous by David Abram. This really is an amazing, deeply insightful book. I would love to see Abram in conversation with Joe Rogan. To hear him mentioned by Derren was a great surprise, since although David Abram is an accomplished speaker and writer, I hardly ever hear him being talked about, so please, please consider inviting him on the podcast.
So surprised to see Derren on, i just got his new book in the mail. I feel there were so many other things they could have talked about and gone deeper into the mind of Derren, such an intelligent person and someone as competent as Joe asking the questions - i feel Joe should have watched his shows and did some more homework before he came on. Damn. Bring him back please!!!
His book 'Happy' is an amazing read. The title and cover playfully hide it's complex, sometimes painfully honest, content about life. Lots of philosophy gems in there.
@@atrociousanimal You've probably made a sale for him because I didn't know about that book. I've read a couple of his other books and he's a good writer.
+Cartman420. I love the guy too but you've gotta be fair, he's barely even known in the USA. Hopefully, there are some other good interviews with him floating around.
My favourite interviewer, laying down the questions for the person who has provided me with my favourite live experience ever... I wish I knew when Derren could hypnotise me!
The thing Derren describes at 16:00 I actually did, I didn't know what I was doing but I was walking past a bus shelter at 2am and there was a gang of guys with a German Shepherd and one of them said "what you looking at" or something like that and another said "gimmie your wallet" I replied with "your dogs ears are too small" and looked at him for 2 seconds and then I walked away singing tom waits Green Grass. Maybe they just thought I was a nutter but it worked and they didn't do anything.
That's not it working, that's them not wanting to punch you in the face as soon as you failed to comply. Try to do that to a squad of police in a stand off, see how that parlor trick works out for you. Derren Brown is a simple showman and snake oil salesman who dresses it up in sciency talk to sell it to a modern audience, and if you disagree PROVE ME WRONG but you won't be able to
I really recommend people try and catch Darren's stage shows , as well as his TV specials. Listening to him talk about them is fine, but you can't get a real taste of what they're actually about from his description. They're quite remarkable, and a lot of fun. Especially his shows which spotlight his mnemonic tricks. Certainly think Joe might have a better appreciation for why Brown is so admired in the UK if he were to check some of them out. Can't decide if I prefer Brown's TV special on "Luck" or "Assassination" better, and all of his stage shows are great.
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“Have you done this your whole life?”
“Not yet...”
Perfect reply.
Elaine McDonald went way over Joes head though lol
Simone B what doesn’t lol
Please explain smart asses ? What does he mean by that, not yet?
@@icepick859 Since he's not dead and has a lot of life to live, he did not do that his whole life.
Yeah no shit, that's pretty obvious. Where is the deeper meaning that would go over someone's head? Like the person said, it went over Joe's head. I'm sure everyone that heard it understood that he isnt dead yet, so not yet his whole life. But what went over Joe's head? Had to be more than that.
for me Derren Brown is the most underrated man who walks this earth.
Actually It's Peter Joseph. But Derren is up there
Jack Jack couldn’t agree more, he is truly spectacular.
Perfect adjective @@lukefox5852
Just his extensive knowledge of writers and philosophers and how that influences his work is amazing. Then the paintings. I had no idea he was such a brilliant guy.
Jack Jack he's a great mentor of mine
0:00 = Los Angeles wildfires, how they’re impacting Joe’s neighborhood. Joe’s love/hate relationship with living in LA. 4:50 = Derren’s Instagram and paintings, photography. Derren talks about being a shy and timid kid, how he got into hypnosis and magic. 13:25 = Derren explains the handshake induction/interrupt as it relates to hypnosis, how he once used diversion tactics to diffuse a potential street fight. 17:55 = Process of hypnosis, psychology of hypnosis and suggestibility. 26:45 = Derren talks about his stage show “Miracle” and experimenting with faith healing, the psychological component of it, and faith healing as a form of hypnosis. 30:35 = The Placebo Effect. Joe discusses the possible impact of having an extremely positive attitude, Derren’s response on the limitations of that by outside reality. 40:00 = Derren discusses his Netflix show “The Push” (or “Pushed to the Edge”), trying to convince someone to kill someone on the show to see if it can be done. 45:15 = Derren discusses his show “Apocalypse”, staging the end of the world for an unknown participant. Near death experiences, how they can positively impact people. 47:25 = Derren discusses his new Netflix show “Sacrifice”. 54:20 = Derren discusses his show “Hero at 30,000 Feet”, convincing a regular person they have to emergency land a plane. 57:40 = How Derren comes up with the concept for a show. 1:05:20 = How fictional narratives from movies give people false expectations with their own lives. Joe discusses how modern humanity has lost touch with nature, particularly our relationship with animals. 1:09:00 = Shamans, the experience of transcendence. The importance of finding meaning in life, even if you’re an Atheist. 1:17:35 = Tyson Fury’s experience with severe depression, how important goal setting was for him to get out of his depression. 1:19:45 = Christianity introducing the idea that human suffering will be rewarded later. Fear of death. 1:23:20 = Needs of the human mind, the need for knowledge, wisdom, inspiration. Jung’s model of psychoanalysis. 1:27:15 = Suggestibility, science of suggestibility and hypnosis. Derren’s show “The Assassin”. Ethical complications of convincing people to do something awful under hypnosis and how it permanently impacts that person. 1:32:20 = FBI tactics for catching potential terrorists. Possibility that hypnosis has been used in the past for “Manchurian Candidate” types of agendas. 1:36:05 = Derren’s book “Happy” (about happiness). The importance of anxiety as a trigger for self-growth. Joe’s belief that happiness comes from embracing difficult tasks. 1:45:15 = Being shy, overly introspective, fear of rejection, anxiety of interactions with people. Disillusionment as a learning tool. Manifestation, luck, genetics, environment all being factors in success. 1:51:20 = The universe as a perspective enhancer. 1:55:25 = Fraudulent “medium/psychic” TV shows. How cults work. People’s need to believe in something even if we know it’s ludicrous. 1:57:45= Derren finding unexpected comfort in the meaninglessness of life, accepting things for the way they are and what you can and can’t control. 2:05:05 = Cultural cycles of rediscovering things. Philosophy of atheism and belief. Podcast wrap-up.
What's the point?..
Cheers
People like you make the world go round
Thank you!
@@frankiebarrettrules not everyone has time to watch the whole podcast, what's the issue?
Please get karl pilkington on, he has the funniest working brain and is an absolute comic!
I think he’s contractually bound to only speak to Ricky Gervais.
@@johnekare8376 they no longer talk they had a falling out a couple years ago, I think He still talks to Steve every now and again thoe.
This needs to happen.
@@lawrencelowe981 any more info on that somewhere?
@@skypekai yeah there are a few videos about it
Love Derren Brown. Learned so much from him. He's got a beautiful heart, and he's genuine and humble.
I would LOVE for you to have Stephen Fry on, it would be a fascinating watch
@dfss csss I beg to differ. Joe has had people like Sam Harris on and they are quite close especially on their views on religion. He was also a close friend of Christopher Hitchens, a man I'd see on the podcast above all others. Would be interesting to listen to Steve's experiences with Christopher and his life.
@dfss csss I think he would. Both Hugh Laurie and Atkinson are pretty famous people. I'm also sure Joe does a bit of research before having each guest on.
@Kieran Patrick Tough for Fry? I dont believe so. Why do you think that?
He can't have Stephen Fry on, he's dead. Derren Brown got someone to assassinate him. Didn't you watch this podcast?
I thin you are confusing Stephen Fry with Cristopher Hitchens - Stephen is still alive :)
@@UpstairsPancake
To all Americans, Derren Brown is a huge, well loved celebrity in the UK!
eyesopen lol no he isn’t
@@TheKingOfBeans yes he is!
Who doesn't know Derren Brown in the UK?
@@DaPlod Um... Is this a joke? He's been a well known celebrity in the UK for almost 20 years....
@@DaPlod oh, you melon. Derren is really well known here.
Joe Rogan you have surpassed yourself by having this amazing guest on. I get the feeling that you will have wished you asked more questions once you’ve watch his back catalogue. He is in his own league.
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Listen at start, derren tells him "and your back in the room, (finger snap)
haha
I agree fellow Superman loving Steve 👊🏻
Two of my favorite men in one room. So glad this podcast happened.
I'd like to see the episode where Derren Brown tries to make Eddie Bravo believe the world is round
Derren would destroy poor Eddie's nonsense.
Shamien can probably make that happen for you.
Problem is Eddie isn't that suggestible. He's a sceptic! ;)
@@TheLivirus Eddie bravo a sceptic? Lmao not even close... He buys into every conspiracy wholesale without an ounce of proof. He's the furthest thing from a sceptic.
@@TheLivirus lol oh wait just seen the wink... Sorry didn't realize you were joking.
Derren’s greatest trick is convincing the world that Derren is a real name
"fookh all them doubters!" -- derren till
Better than an unknown name though.
@@ETAisNOW-wn8wx 10/10 Points for that one.
@@oedihamijok6504 please explain. I don't get it.
Darren/Darran/Daryn is actually a very popular name. So he doesnt need to convince anyone that it's real.
Derren Brown is a brilliant man, I can honestly say he's changed my life. Incredibly talented, articulate and profound.
How did he change your life?
@@BrunoValleBR maybe he applied those mentalist techniques to understand his brain and his own behavior.
I have waited so long for you to have Derren on, hes an absolute legend
WARNING! I have 2 very attractive girlfriends and I am the greatest TH-camr ever and YOUR savior. Good bye dear hharry
You have waited for so long till he got bald.
@@noteda6361 😂
2 of my favorite people on this planet.
dn
OMG Derren Brown! This is such a welcome surprise
This podcast had some of the most beautiful conversation I've heard on JRE. Thumbs up.
I totally agree with you. It was a great episode and I will definitely give it another listen in the future
@@bst1984 now !
John Arcayna
are you kidding? you could tell that Joe felt the conversation wasn't flowing at smoothly as he'd like
nope
How so?
STEVEN FRY WOULD BE A GREAT GUEST TO HAVE!!!!!
dean clegg This⬆️
So would Tom Cruise or Conor McGregor
+dfss csss Tom Cruise being a total nutcase is exactly what would make him an interesting guest. His handlers (Scientology) would never allow it, but his stunt work is all done by him and would be interesting to talk about.
Yes, a national treasure
100 percent. He is the greatest living Englishman.
Derren Brown...the slightly more ethical Jigsaw
my thoughts exactly! love him!
Absolute quality Comment Spiritbox.!!!!!
Ethical Brain Hacker
hahahaha brilliant
Espically when he made a guy stamp on 19/20 styrophoam cups on the floor when 1 had a knife underneath. He even made him to it barefoot like jigsaw dose with his victims.
Enjoyed this entire podcast so much! Derren Brown is one of my most favourite people. I've read all of his books and watched all of his shows and I truly believe he is one of the most kindest and wisest people on the planet.
I have seen Derren Brown live! He is incredible, remarkable man
If joe had actually seen derrens stuff this could have been 100x more interesting
He seems to tarnish Darren with the generic magician brush, especially at the start. Joe would be amazed if he watched his shows, because no one isn't.
@@ImperialMindMusic exactly he would have been mind blown and been way more interested in what he does and asked better questions
Yeah he should everything about every person that goes to his podcast thst he do nearly everyday
Disappointed if joe didn’t do his research on derren beforehand. Derren is a bigger star than joe by a mile. An absolute genius
Merc Swazey 100% Disagree. He saw Derren’s stuff. He was prepared and knows who and what he is. This interview was about getting into the psyche of Derren and how he feels. The man behind the persona. The real Derren, not the charismatic magician and master of suggestion. Just his process. If you find this boring, maybe you need a Derren Brown adventure to wake you up to how good this interview is.
I've been following Derren Brown's brilliant work for years, if you're not hip, definitely go down the rabbit hole and check out some of his stuff. "The Heist" is one of my absolute favorites
Stephen Mosillo I love the great art robbery!
The edge or whatever the one where they got people to push someone off a building was absolute rubbish. I call complete bullshit. No one is killing someone just because a group of people tell them some ridiculous story plus a bunch of subliminal messaging.
Lol. When multinationals do this erryday
E. Bayford I have no idea which special of his you’re talking about but it sounds funny. Keep in mind part of what Derren does is make you think certain “tricks” are done certain ways, like through suggestion, when they are actually just variations on real illusions that most stage magicians can do.
Derren mentioned his special, Apocalypse. I paused this podcast to watch it real quick (you can find it on youtube, in his channel, two parts), and holy shit! I ended up cry laughing at the end. It's such an amazing emotional rollercoaster of an experience watching Apocalypse. I highly recommend watching it
Check out The Push by him
If I would have to choose one show as my "all time favourite Derren Brown show" it would have to be his live show "Enigma". If you haven't seen it then I 100% recommend it and I 100% guarantee the ending will blow your mind!
Joseph Camarena if you like derren Brown search for the "zombie arcade game " video derren did. His book trick of the mind is great u should read it
Once you understand he simply uses actors (i.e. the 'unsuspecting subjects') for his specials they lose a lot of their appeal. His stage shows are absolutely phenomenal though
@@alexlutzenkirch1197He Does ''Admit' that he uses 'a Mix' of 'Techno's, Old and new' . He Seems' Honest enough, (for an 'entertainer)
Joe, please watch some Derren Brown material, and get this geezer back on the podcast next year.
Easily one of the best podcasts I’ve listened to, derren brown is incredible
le douche
Somebody needs to put Eddie Bravo into one of these shows to push him over the edge.
BlakeDeluxe I bet he would not go along with it
northstreet13 You’re probably right. But the thought of him running around screaming, “I TOLD YOU, I TOLD ALL OF YOU!!!”, cracks me up.
BlakeDeluxe Or maybe Eddie would go DEEP with it and end up not believing it was a set-up at the end. Then possibly commit an actual murder
northstreet13 Exactly man imagine the mindfuck as they’re handcuffing him and puttting him in the back of the squad car.
BlakeDeluxe Seriously, that would be a great premise for a screenplay. Like a reimagined version of Michael Douglas The Game with a conspiracy theorist MMA expert as the main character. Maybe with a Darren Brown type character too
Watched this podcast... at some point I fell asleep, then woke up wearing a chicken suit, covered in chocolate pudding, and Derren’s Netflix special had been playing on repeat for hours... I’m assuming this happened to everyone else?
Yeah same thing....except I woke up watching old reruns of the Cosby show...
Lol
Well, at least you weren't dreaming about eating chocolate pudding and then woke up with a spoon in your ass! True story....just not mine, lol
@@1gadena dude, can't believe it, but my handle on all things gaming is Maximus Decimus lol trip!
I woke up on the toilet..No yellows just a large derren brown
I swear the head nod that Derren does is hypnotic. Somehow end up being so drawn into his words.
I've *always* been fascinated by Derren. Absolute legend.
Yall crazy? just watch apocalypse
I've been fortunate enough to see Derren Brown a few times. He's such a good showman. If you ever get the chance to see him then I highly recommend it.
The healing part of the show was fantastic
Derren needs to come back again after Joe sees his specials............
Miguel Barajas yes absolutely!!!!
Agreed!
100% true! have you seen the "confessing to a murder" one?
Have seen Derren Brown live and admired him for a long time but I still found this surprisingly insightful and crazy interesting. One of my favourites ever.
This podcast would have been better had Joe watched even one of Derren's Netflix specials.
why?
Wadebowen Fan you mean all his channel 4 shows which he has loads of where as he has less than 5 Netflix “specials”
Yeah you'd think. I mean just to get a little perspective on the guy.
Agree Wadebowen Fan, Joe does seem to know nothing about Derren and his special skills
@Gnome Trumpsky That was one of the most interesting episodes ive seen.
One of my heroes.
An intellectually honest and inspiring guy.
This is might be my favourite one so far.
Have you seen the first Freeway Rick Ross episode?
i feel like im one of the few in america who know who derren is.... i've been following his work for well over a decade. i never really had an idol before i discovered his work, hes the only person on earth id ever call my idol.
Wow your really cool
@Alpha Centauri congrats on being an asshole, my comment about knowing his work has nothing to do with you and more to do with the fact im happy to see him get exposure in america, not like it was some accomplishment for me to know things outside of your knowledge. so until next time, fuck off.
a brilliant conversation. Derren is fantastic. I'm a Brit, I effectively grew up on his stuff.
If you haven't heard of this chap before now, i'd urge you to look up some his previous endeavors. The bloke is absolutely gobsmacking and im not sure how well known he is across the pond.
MrWeeRhys I love the fact how many of us watched him years ago and are still perplexed by him. I’ve yet to find someone as fascinating as him. Love the guy.
@@rokzakrajsek9864 Yes indeed. Somewhat underated atleast in America seemingly. Joe will probably watch a bunch of derrens stuff and want to invite him back on haha.
MrWeeRhys I always thought if Derren was American, he would’ve been one of the most famous people on the planet back when he was more active.
Wow. The first time I've heard of him.
I'm sure that'll change now
I was a fan maybe 10 years ago after finding some of his stuff online. but we didn't get much from him until lately when Netflix nabbed up some of his specials.
Derren Brown is a modern day philosopher.
"You can spend your life climbing a ladder and then realise you had it up against the wrong wall" amazing!
*Ladder Haha (: ))
I'm pretty sure it's a Stephen Covey quote. Seven habits of highly effective people
That's a good one!
@@davidknell9676 It's a quote from Joseph Campbell. He used to say that all the time in his talks.
@@gregorious123 thanks
FINALLY DARREN BROWN on the JRE! I love this guy!
Derren is cool too
Well, not Darren. He's still stuck to the couch Derren left him on.
He's certainly unique, haven't seen him without hair before. It's weird.
I have no idea about this guy but he seems interesting. I will checkout his Netflix.
Al Santos check out his earlier work. I used to watch him as a teen with my friend and I thought he was mesmerizing back then, now he’s just reaffirming it for me. The man is something else.
Derren is one of the most incredible people I've ever discovered on our flat Earth
FYI : The earth is a triangle.
Earth is a Four Dimensional Time Cube if you've been around on the Internet long enough.
Derren has been a hero of mine for the last 8 years. Thanks for having him on Joe!
nope.
Great guest! Would like to see Derren come back
quit your yappin!
I love Darren Brown, can't believe you have him on the show.
Never start a fight in the street with a well--dressed gentleman when there's a magic convention in town.
Or ever..
-youre really good. have you done this your whole life?
-not yet.
The greatest trick Derren ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.
Cryptogod mcnamara i was wondering why i didnt see more comments saying "i love his MAGIC TRICKS lol..
Cryptogod mcnamara - No that was someone else. But you wouldn't know him.
@@GrimUpNorth_yt and like that, he's gone.
Who’s gone?
@@sjamescharlton watch the usual suspects
Always admired how genuine Derren is. What's stood out about his shows over traditional magic is his willingness to be blatant about the fact that this is a trick, it's not magic or of higher power and yet it's still amazing.
Once I'd gotten into a drunken street brawl, trying to break up everyone from fighting. One person knocked my glasses off when he jumped on my back and put me in a choke. I calmly grabbed his wrists, pulled his arms off, turned around and asked him if he could help find my glasses, to which he was confused, then started backing away while yelling that I should get away from him.
Hearing Derren tell his story about deflating a situation with a drunk person, my situation back then, now makes a lot more sense to me.
ive experienced a similar situation where I said something someone didnt expect. They cursed at me and then walked away.
Must have been a white belt. Bad choke technique
@@JoeNoSay - I used the 80 lbs weight advantage technique on him. Sometimes you've just got to fight dirty.
he was probably freaked out that you pulled his arms off
I'm a huge Derren fan. This is by far the most interesting interview i've ever seen him do; I got more insight into Derren's personality from just this interview, than the 18 years I've been watching him
Enjoyed it. I don't think Rogan fully know / appreciate who he was talking to, to the extend I hoped him to. Sure this is not the first mentalist he had on the cast but Darren is a whole different creature.
I could listen to Derren talk all day. So insightful. Read his book, Tricks of the Mind. Some of the anecdotes he gives, exist there, in more detail. One of my favourite books.
Does the book also go like "I remember this experiment I did on my new show on Netflix..."?
Dani B. Goode Haha! No, I believe the book was before Netflix’ existence.
It is a great book.
Yes! You've jogged some memories in me well done, the remembering 20 cards by using various mmenmonics (sp) and things. Useful stuff, and I love thew way he never ever pretends there is more to what he does than dedication and time.
The wall outside my house isn’t 4 foot high.
What are you even talking about
Put back the candy and leave the store, sir
@@drmedwuast only watched The Heist with my dad 2 days ago. That scene was hilarious.
@drmedwuast ermm you're the ignorent one unless your joking
Derren’s live shows are amazing. Glad you had him on. Love how his mind works.
Been a fan of Derren Brown since I was 12 and I have watched all of his work - fantastic man! Was a nice surprise seeing he was today's guest. I am going to enjoy this podcast immensely!
'Derren Brown is an English mentalist' reminds me of Alan Partridge.
Eck The Mentalist tv show was actually based on him.
@Montgomery15 Snooker Videos he’s much funnier than Americans!
Ha ha Tony Le Mesmer
"No way, you big spastic. You're a mentalist!" That episode was based on something that happened to Stewart Lee.
I ran into Derren Brown on TH-cam years ago. He’s a fantastic entertainer. If people watching this have not seen his shows do yourself a favor and binge them. They are incredible.
Derren vetting Joe Rogan for his next project waaaaay in advance :D
Yup... Trigger joe right before a huge UFC event to say things throughout the night to condition millions of UFC fans to watch Derrens next special.
That would be awesome
@@sl0ptart yaaas lol
😂😂😂😂😂
Wow seems totally possible
My favorite Derren's special was The Great art robbery, if you didnt watch it, you should ;)
Apocalypse was my favourite! Not just for the incredible backstory but the "victims" experience was incredibly emotional to watch. I cried at several points, it was remarkable
I've been obsessed watching all of Derren Brown videos, but I haven't see the great art robbery. TH-cam constantly shows it in my feed,but I keep on scrolling past it...then I see this comment...now I have to watch it
I really like the one with the lucky dog. Very uplifting
The one with the lucky dog made me cry, when he threw that dice at the third try...
Meh. His stage shows are far superior. I'm not into his tv specials, like apocalypse or heist, they're a bit gimmicky. Still watch them, just didn't get the excitement I do from the stage shows... Speaking of, Svengali was my favourite.
I would love to see Chris Morris on the show, he created some of the best (my favourite for sure) British comedies of all time, i imagine he would have some amazing stories.
Derren Brown, the guy that got away with buying jewelry with paper
GOAT
So weird that you had Derren on, i literally just finished a 2 day binge on his older stuff. Class.
is it weird? or is that just the story you are telling yourself :)
@@makingaclubchampion Touche....... Toucheeeeee.
Joe rogan had a great chat with Derren Brown but I couldn’t help thinking he knew nothing about him. I know he can’t research all his guests but he would have got so much more out of this if he knew the depths Derren Brown has debunked pseudoscience.
Derren is a follower of the Amazing Randy...and freely admits so, so yes, it is a pity.
This was probably a paid interview to promote Derren's Netflix shows
He is a master as persuasion. He has simply persuaded. Not debunked. If he believes something, he can make anyone else have the same belief
@@orbluecuisine2116 you don't watch a lot of Rogan do you
@@williamfenton8246 While I do agree with him, you have to admit the massive plug in of his shows. But I don't think Rogan would do it on purpose, cause at some point Derren asks "Can I talk about Sacrifice?" and Joe goes "You can talk about anything you want". My conspiracy theory is that Derren was trying to make us suggestible to watch his shows, by constantly adding them in the middle of his stories. Which he kind of explained the process of before. Which I think is brilliant if it's true, and not just a shameless constant plug.
Joe has had some mehh podcasts in the past where he is a bit cold/confrontational, or just doesn't let the other person finish all their stories and stuff, but lately he has really been on point (and pretty hilarious too actually). GO JOE
Sacrifice is amazing. I about fell off my couch when Phil began tapping his head inside the truck 🤯
Greatly appreciated this episode. Cheers to all who made it possible. If anyone ever has the chance to see Derren Brown live then please allow yourself the experience. Peace.
Joe please have him on again after watching a few of his specials, and at least one of his stage shows like enigma or svengali. Trust me, you will have enough to talk about for hours.
this guy is smart and great thank u for the podcast Joe.
Yeah this one was nice
I just watched "The Push" last night. Amazing! I can't wait for more shows from this guy.
Joe had to put the hat on so he can avoid those "Joe is interviewing himself" comments.
Niko lmao, that's hilarious if it's true.
I don't know why but that was hilarious.
It's paid advertising.
They should form a double act and be called “6 thumbs up”
No its to stop derren from reading his mind
One of the most powerful podcasts I've watched.
Seeing Derren get tired as the podcast gets longer, he seems to let his guard down and speak more from the heart is priceless
00:00 - Show starts
02:10:46: Show ends
I'm a Joe fan, I'm a Derren fan, I just wish Joe would put some effort in before he does these, a little research would make them more interesting.
It's because he wants the guest to feel comfortable in explaining what naturally comes first instead of it all being scripted. ..plus Joe does sometimes 3 podcast a day so that would definitely get hard to remember everyone's story plus it would have a scripted feeling instead of free flowing
@isitwrongtoeat sand. I think you gotta cut some slack for the fact that Derren isn't very big in the USA. Some of Joe's questions indicated that he'd watched a couple of Derren's specials. He'd made some effort.
Fair point well made, Darran. I'm just a fanboy I guess.
@@isitwrongtoeatsand8828 Nah, I get what you mean though.
Why. Anything he has to say he can say there. We didn't do the research either. Let's talk, let's have a fun conversation that we don't know where it'll go. He's not the Queen, he doesn't need a red carpet and a formal interview. That style of interview went away and for good reason: it fucked sucked and was soul sucking.
The way Derren talks about people impacting our lives, particularly celebrities we’ve never met, is very resonante because Derren is that person to me. The book is incredible and I’ve always been a fan of his shows, they carry such weight with me
Look in to my eyes, look like to my eyes not around the eyes, in the eyes, you're under.
If you don't control yourself, someone will control you.
😆👍love it little Britain
Only UK residents get this XD
You will not get the lobster you will have a salad and a glass of tap water. 3, 2, 1... you're back in the room.
@@gitsurfer27 Computer says "No, it was shown in other countries too. "
I done a double take upon reading who the guest was, had no idea Joe was having Derren on.
Been watching his stuff for years, very good guest to have on :)
DERREN BROWN IS A REALLY A VERY INTERESTING PERSON! HE IS AMAZING! He does good things to people, i love it!
How can one compare this interview with the librarian Tyson(smart Ars). I love this dude. What a specimen of humanity. A true wild orchid in this rotten swump.
A living legend...one of my heroes!
People being unable to see the stars at night an being humbled is a fantastic point.
Tyson Fury "I was depressed, I found God, a higher power and purpose, I'm ok now"
Joe Rogan "mmmm....interesting, so goal setting is how you overcame depression."
I caught that too, 😂
I've just started reading Darren Brown's book, Happy. A very accessible read.
Leigh Fiorentino I love the first chapter!
At around 1:08:52 Derren tells a story from the book The Spell of the Sensuous by David Abram. This really is an amazing, deeply insightful book. I would love to see Abram in conversation with Joe Rogan. To hear him mentioned by Derren was a great surprise, since although David Abram is an accomplished speaker and writer, I hardly ever hear him being talked about, so please, please consider inviting him on the podcast.
Great to see Derren on here! Thank you Joe.
Frankie Boyle please!
St Yido he’s had Tyson fury now derren and my last last and final wish is frankly Boyle !
Oh yea frankie i would love that
Now that would be amazing.
Could he handle Frank Boyle 😄
Frankie would scare joe with his humour I think😂
I haven't even watched this yet and I'm realising how excited I am for this - not just in magic, in general, I think Derren is a genius!
2019 JR: “This is as strange as it gets”
2020: hold my beer
He’s doing the show on joe... and us
So surprised to see Derren on, i just got his new book in the mail. I feel there were so many other things they could have talked about and gone deeper into the mind of Derren, such an intelligent person and someone as competent as Joe asking the questions - i feel Joe should have watched his shows and did some more homework before he came on. Damn. Bring him back please!!!
His book 'Happy' is an amazing read. The title and cover playfully hide it's complex, sometimes painfully honest, content about life. Lots of philosophy gems in there.
@@atrociousanimal You've probably made a sale for him because I didn't know about that book. I've read a couple of his other books and he's a good writer.
+Cartman420. I love the guy too but you've gotta be fair, he's barely even known in the USA. Hopefully, there are some other good interviews with him floating around.
I just feel hypnotised by Derren he’s amazing! I just get so engrossed I forget everything that’s going on around me. It’s wonderful.
Most epic guest!! Huge fan of Derren Brown.
There is so much wonderful information in Joe's podcasts. I have really come to appreciate his service to this planet.
My favourite interviewer, laying down the questions for the person who has provided me with my favourite live experience ever... I wish I knew when Derren could hypnotise me!
The thing Derren describes at 16:00 I actually did, I didn't know what I was doing but I was walking past a bus shelter at 2am and there was a gang of guys with a German Shepherd and one of them said "what you looking at" or something like that and another said "gimmie your wallet" I replied with "your dogs ears are too small" and looked at him for 2 seconds and then I walked away singing tom waits Green Grass.
Maybe they just thought I was a nutter but it worked and they didn't do anything.
That's not it working, that's them not wanting to punch you in the face as soon as you failed to comply. Try to do that to a squad of police in a stand off, see how that parlor trick works out for you. Derren Brown is a simple showman and snake oil salesman who dresses it up in sciency talk to sell it to a modern audience, and if you disagree PROVE ME WRONG but you won't be able to
@@SP-dj9kl Why don't you prove yourself right before asking others to prove you wrong?
@@MrRapa11 Because that's how arguments work moron, the first person to claim can ask others to prove him wrong assuming proof isn't hard to come by.
@@SP-dj9kl just when you think people can't get any stupider an SP comes along.
@@Cheximus I'm sorry that I went after your favourite snake oil salesman and correctly put him down where he belongs: among other charlatans galore.
This could have been such a great interview if Joe had only done some homework on who his guest was. What a wasted opportunity
Joe, you need to watch some of the Derren Brown specials. As a therapist for 25 years, they are fascinating,
Can't wait to listen to this. Derren Brown is a wizard
I really recommend people try and catch Darren's stage shows , as well as his TV specials. Listening to him talk about them is fine, but you can't get a real taste of what they're actually about from his description. They're quite remarkable, and a lot of fun. Especially his shows which spotlight his mnemonic tricks.
Certainly think Joe might have a better appreciation for why Brown is so admired in the UK if he were to check some of them out. Can't decide if I prefer Brown's TV special on "Luck" or "Assassination" better, and all of his stage shows are great.
One of my favorites is his "The Heist" special. Not the older people's heist, by the way, that's an entirely different Derren episode.
Derren Brown is the man, I had just watched all of his content on Netflix and was mindblown. Great guest great interview.
Who is here after listening to Alan's interview?
Yup. I immediately paused the podcast to start this one.
Lol, yup,qued it right up after finishing Alan's. Kinda nice to listen to one from pre-covid
What's this?
WHo is Alan? where is the interview?
@@AyXD The Alan Levinovitz JRE interview. Its a pretty good one.