Is faith compatible with reason?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2013
- BBC One 10 February 2013
Amongst those taking part are Will Storr, author of Heretic, Adventures with the Enemies of Science; Robert Griffiths, author of Slaying the Dragon; Christina Biggs from Christians in Science; the past-life regression therapist Andrea Foulkes; Journalist Oliver Thring; Julia Manning MP.
I wonder if the blonde woman understands when the grown ups are talking .
It's the result of the peroxide she uses to make her hair that blond.
What grown ups?
@@jordangayle7794 The ones with the intelligence to mention confirmation bias lol
“Thoughts and feelings come from the heart”
That is he dumbest thing I’ve heard all week. It’s literally just a blood pump.
That's true in one sense and definitely true in response to the New Age nonsense on offer here, but every part of your body operates in a feedback loop so, strictly speaking, the heart does influence thoughts and feelings, then so do your elbows and toes and liver and genitals... the brain doesn't operate in a vacuum.
@@mausperson5854 well said, there a neurons in the heart too. still don't agree with her
It literally isn't, it's got neurons.
The atheist experience saved me from my delusions. I have much to thank Matt Dillahunty and all the other great people involved with that show.
You and me both
I see this comment is 7 years old - do you mind if i ask if you are still an atheist?
@@dawnatkinson7704 Absolutely. This comment still stands. I actually thank you for reminding me of it.
@@tianamaycryGood for you!
I wasn't brought up in a religious household so atheism was very natural and logical to me but I can appreciate that people who were indoctrinated can struggle and sometimes are so fearful they return to their faith.
My partner was brought up in a cult (The Children of God) and the repercussions of this upbringing was pretty damaging.
That's how I left my "beliefs" behind. And they led me to Hitch, Harris, Dawkins, and reason in general
"It's complete babble." Hahaha. Well said, sir. Well said indeed. Faith and religion are babble. The tragic irony is that those who oppose religious assertions care more for the truth than those religious people who claim to already have it.
+Free Being Again an atheist has it back to front .
Hahahahahahahahahaha are you serious?
+Patrick Parker so we must first assert it as true even w/out knowledge of it?
that's religious logic / confirmation bias.
syllogistic logic would ask why should I simply assert it as true?
Humans aren't rational, there driven by emotion. Science works on logic.
A scientific theory as to be quantifiable and undergo rigious testing my independent, impartial scientific minds. Only when the scientific community as a whole or majority are willing to accept it does it become fact but even then it can be reevaluated if new information comes to light. If those people had been debating dark matter, they would have had no emotional response and asked for a credible, scientific solution. Only agnostic like me, say we don't know if God exists or not. It's only agnostic people who have a absent of emotion upon the issue. If you don't know something, you should admit you don't know.
Faith and belief are perfectly acceptable arguments.
I can put my cat out in the morning and have faith or a belief in that my cat will come home but I can't say I know that as a fact, until its returned home.
That physicist was clearly taking the word faith too literally when she was talking about relationships when she really means trust
Guy Potts it’s scary she’s working in a lab. Get her the fuck out of there and get her making sandwiches where she belongs.
That physicist a is real disappointment to the scientific community.
Trust is faith u can't put trust in a test tube or physics lab
Absolutely. She is confusing 2 meanings of faith. One is based on evidence and the other isn't.
i stopped the video when the woman said "Quantum physics bizarly".
You made the right choice.
“The heart has intelligence”
She must not have a heart then
Lol that was hilarious !
Bruh
How dare you.. she have a big heart.. what missing is a brain 🧠
Hahahahah
3:05 'people in your family might be overweight' camera cut to that shot at just the right moment
This whole notion that “every one has their own truth and their own truth is their own reality” really is setting people up for severe delusion.
The rational side vs various god beliefs. The key word here is 'various'. By definition this puts all the religions in intellectual conflict. They can't all be right. So glad I'm on the rational side.
There are many different denominations contradicting each other but all claiming to be the truth. There are many sects within denominations contradicting each other.
It is arrogant to think we know that which we are unable to comprehend. When we think we have the answers will stop asking questions. Questions lead to progress and truth.
Religion is the biggest impediment to mankind’s progress.
There are billions of arrogant people in this world living their lives based on tenets set by a fraud.
The goal is to eventually navigate the heavens and live forever in paradise. We will only be able to achieve this through our ability to reason.
Intellect will be our salvation if we are to survive.
Religion conditions us to think we have all the answers stifling curiosity and thus cultivation of the intellect. When we have answers we don't need questions. Questions lead to truth, understanding, and progress. Religion is the biggest impediment to mankind's progress, quality of life and survival.
There are so many different denominations and so many more sects within and much more than that, that have been forgotten.
There is only ONE truth and it is beyond our comprehension and if you don't realize that you are disingenuous or delusional
All religions are a fraud except yours of course.
The number of hoops these people are prepared to jump through in order to prop up their gods is quite incredible.
I was raised religious, and once believed it, and I'm ashamed to have ever been like the believers here. Belief is not intellectual, and not a conclusion.
Also, a naturalistic world would have unique fingerprints. DNA is also unique, because it is the result of the past together with change. Rarely is anything exactly the same in nature. It is similar at best, and lots of fingerprints are similar.
+Ms10000123 correct... and she was almost invoking that we're all so different because of finger prints. well, we also all have a heart, a brain, lungs, arms, legs, feet, fingers & toes.... which would seemingly make us virtually all the same in that context. and she's trying to connect the dots w/ something spiritual or supernatural. but the problem w/ her scenario (and there's really not getting around this) is that she cannot confirm her god unless maybe she has god's fingerprints. of course that sounds short-sided, but her argument is no less short-sided.
red herrings are no way to go about providing evidence or even good examples to a flawed scenario.
Interesting to hear you say that. May I ask what made you first have your doubts and helped you break out? Was it something someone said? Or learning new info about the world that contradicted doctrine? Or a realisation moment? Also, may I ask how old you were? I'm intrigued as to the first step/event that helps people break from the indoctrination. Many thanks in advance. x
Blondie is mistaking quantum mechanics for quantum healing shit
Where reason ends,faith begins! When you don't know and you wonder about it, you go for the faith. But you know, then you take to reason!
Why doesn’t he answer the prayers of those suffering horrible atrocities in which he has the power to intervene, but chooses to answer menial requests such as helping us to raise funds at a church car wash, or to win at a sporting competition?
Oh how I miss the hitch could imagine him in this mix
Hitch slappin the lot
I can't imagine him being able to sit through this drivel, such low intelligence arguments like the lady just saying "what if x, y, z"...
Every single one of them would get called a fascist crackpot.
Bibi Ayube ... I came here to get away from all the "Oh how I miss Hitch!" replies and yet, here you are.. 😉
I think it’s like the Batman quote, he didn’t live long enough to become the villain. He would not be able to hold his tongue enough to appease the outrage mob. Surely, some moral Puritan of radical left writing for huff po’ or the guardian would “expose” him as a gate way to the alt right. He might fair better than Dawkins or Harris but still be stained with the brush of moral impurity for his views on democrats, gender roles and his harshness on Islam. Although he always had something that others did not, an intimidating unyielding conviction for justice. So much so that I have seen people who would object to what he said if said by anyone else. There’s nothing close to a replacement.
NO! -- There you go, I saved you 17 minutes of your life.
as she's babbling, the quick cut back to will at 2:45 is priceless. this is the gaze of a man that's utterly confused by the presence of a toddler in a grownup's body in a show called "the big questions"
Will Storr's book, Heretic: The Enemies of Science, is fantastic, for anyone who is interested by what he says here. Informative AND a page turner.
I would imagine the blond woman has experienced many things but one would be never hearing back from anyone she had discussed her beliefs with.
2:20 - 3:14 never heard so much bullshit in all my life (yes life NOT lives! lol)
That's the second time in this show that I've heard about reality being subjective. How can one fall behind such an absurd argument without any prove.
I Galactic I I’m surprised people don’t mock these idiots for the whole show. I wouldn’t show them or their stupid ideas any respect.
@@Technicallyimright They probably don't mock them on the show because it would be rude to become uncivil during a civil debate/conversation based on a topic. Courtesy and respect when someone else is speaking is often the case (even though there are moments where this show gets a bit heated and a lot of people try to speak at once -- that's not the same as insulting someone for what they believe in).
My fingers are itching to pull out the collar of the guy with the blue sweater
I just screamed. I can't take it anymore. Why do people refuse to let go of their god??? why????? So much evidence right in their face, and they cant let go?
Q: Is faith compatible with reason?
A: Of course not...
The scientific method or scientific response to a question asked when we don’t have the answer is “we don’t know, but we are working to find the answer to the question, not to say god did it.
That should be the answer to the question of whether God or gods exist. Until science is reasonably sure of the existence or absence of God or gods, the answer is we don't know.
If someone wants to believe in God or gods that's fine, they should be honest with themselves and others and admit its based on illogical wishful thinking, emotion and a desire to explain that which one cant rationally explain.
Athiesm is also based on an emotional and illogical response and is also unreasonable.
@@davidvarley1812 I don’t think science can nor cares to prove a god exists, as you say it’s only out of wishful thinking and paranoia.
I agree science doesn't want to answer the question of weather god or gods does or doesn't exist.
However science doesn't always start out looking for what it finds.
I doubt physicists 70 years ago set out to find black holes or dark matter, it was just happened.
However if spirituality or religion was looking to science, which it isn't, for validation, they may have many centuries or perhaps millennia to wait. In the mean time many things considered spiritual today will be explained away by science.
For centuries our ancestors thought God caused earthquake but today science as taught us about the movement of tectonic plates.
@@davidvarley1812 You could argue that the history of science is based on proving/disproving the existence of God.
For millennia the answers to life's questions have been God. Scientific discoveries have given logical answers to these things throughout history.
@@manwithadronespain yes, you could.
A physicist proving the existence of their invisible magic papa with the story of the Beauty and the Beast. Does anything more need to be said?
Dammit! I just blew my food out of my nose trying not to laugh with a mouthful.
What a mouthful...
Newton was also an alchemist.
+todd matheson So what , don't you have some weird habits
THE ANSWER IS ' NO , FAITH AND REASON ARE, BY DEFINITION , COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE .
It's not. Are we done?
Watching this made me remember something the renowned physicist, Lawrence Krauss said about people letting their preconceptions of what's logical dictate what the conclusion should be rather than the conclusions forcing them to conform to what it has shown. It's like people who lived in the medieval era who thought the world was flat because that's how they perceived it to be.
This ties in with the blonde haired woman who brings up Issac Newton, and quotes him as saying that the fact there are thumb prints and that no two thumb prints are the same was enough to persuade him that God exists. It's essentially the whole intelligent design argument that gets repeatedly trundled out ad nauseum. She's using Newton to rationalize jumping to the conclusion that no two intriciate thumb prints being identical means there must therefore be some intelligent mind that designed them. Her preconception of what should be logical allowing her to dctate what the conclusion should be. That is a scientifically illogical fallacy.
3:55 "Prove it...... ?
I had my own show on ITV ..."
Lol case closed😆
It's a pretty good argument..
I forgot to mention that the Christian Søren Kierkegaard wrote Fear and Trembling (Repetition) to investigate the failure of reason in faith, even equating it in the example of Abraham and Isaac to a renunciation of ethics (feeling special beyond societal expectation). Even someone as conservative as Kierkegaard realizes that you can't have both faith and reason without regular conflict.
All the women on the front row there talked absolute s**t. The guy talking about confirmation bias was totally on point and Muslim behind him gave him a good example of it.
I'm 3 mins in and I am already sold on your statement!
I must say...you should write forums or articles because despite my obvious agreement to every statement you enter...you are just entertaining as hell to read!
“Complete babble” .......gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Faith is literally the suspension of reason
Faith is confidence in something unseen but truly existing. Presumption is confidence in something that may or may not exist. Biblical faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen.
The blond woman proves that no matter how silly your ideas, one can package it with mumbo jumbo words and make it sound like you are conveying an idea.
and sell it to stupid people
I have faith that I can fly when nobody's looking, I've experienced it, does that mean it's reasonable to believe so? NO!! OF FUCKING COURSE NOT!!! Which is what I say to the question of this video.
from an evolutionary perspective, faith and religion in general was pretty useful in a time when we didnt know much of anything.
in the dark, the blind man knows the road best. but when the sun rises, he is no longer needed.
its not a matter of compatibility between faith and reason (which arent compatible). its just that reason is better than faith at explaining reality and making predictions in every possible way.
!! It is amazing how many people seemingly cannot tell the difference between 'X is true' and 'It is desirable that people should believe that X is true'. Or maybe they don't really fall for this logical error, but simply rate truth as unimportant compared with 'human feelings'. I don't want to decry human feelings; But let's be clear, in any particular conversation, what are we talking about: feelings, or truth. Both may be important, but they are not the same thing. -Richard Dawkins-
THANK YOU! (I wanted to up vote your comment, but that's impossible on mobile, so I'll just do it like this)
Blind faith is to abandon reason and essentially turn off your brain.
Day to day faith is 'playing the odds', a logical idea, however one that is not without bias if there is no doubt in that faith. For instance you might walk up a relatively safe street expecting not to get stabbed, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't stay aware of your surroundings. The doubt is a method of discovering the truth.
Quantum mechanics has been a blessing to the crackpot community. Every nutty piece of charlatanry these days has someone claiming their particular quackery con has some basis in quantum physics.
By definition faith isn't compatible with reason because faith is the belief in something that you can not prove and that is the opposite to reason.
Anyone know where I can find the rest of this episode?
"Quantum physics".....Deepak Chopra approves lol lol lol! :P
I'm sure somebody will come up with a treatment one day. Can you suggest any?
Despite the self-assurance expressed in saying it, I'd venture to say that not a single human being on the planet has ever.... EVER... come to religious faith via the intellect.
I first found out about it when I was studying with Leo, who got a copy of the Boone book. I went to my book case, pulled the Freedom book - "1975 is only mentioned in chapter one, you read it and YOU tell me that it says the end would come in 1975."
The following week he gave it back to me without comment.
So I asked him... and he shrugged and said "no, it did not."
Thanks to the lies, he is now my Brother... "I can see right through them" he said.
So the lies actually HELPS us. LOL
Has anyone seen the movie "predator" ? The scene where the alien takes off is mask.....
8:32 - 9:16 is nicely done
Intellectual discourse stimulates my intellectual discourse, which in turn stimulates my intellectual discourse then that further stimulates me further, It gets me high on me. I love to be the center of attention. I love being self centered.Me me me
My brain hurts...
Good grief - so many unsubstantiated claims by 03:00!
Faith is not the abandonment of reason, but the abandonment for the need for evidence in ones beliefs.
“I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.” Albert Einstein, published in the New York Times, April 25, 1929.
That's not semantics. That's a direct quote.
1st Law of Woo: If you invoke quantum mechanics in your explanation, you've demonstrated that you do not understand reality.
You have to separate 'faith' in a biblical sense (and what is laid out by the faithful to prepose that everyone has faith) from confidence, which is a much more mundane usage of the word. 'Faith' that your steak will hit the table the way you ordered it is simply the confidence you have that it will. Faith in God may be described as a form of confidence but without recourse to verification or falsification. Ergo, faith in the latter sense is incompatible with reason.
So, all of those thousands who've got a heart transplant inherited the donor's memory !?
People who spew such utter bullshit endanger the future impressionable kids and hence should never be allowed any public platform.
Not sure I could sit by David Irving without looking at him and shaking my head over and over.
I am referring to "faith" in the context that this video is using. That is, "faith" as it relates to a religious belief. And that is why "faith" is the suspension of both reason and evidence. ;O)
Katalyzt
10:06
"Intellectual evidence based confirmed by existential experience."
(points at random man)
*"Don't point your finger at me while saying those long words."*
14:45 Top level intelligence acquired!
My brain just melted.
Hi caveman.
two thumbs up.
faith is the acceptance of a claim without or even in direct opposition to reason, so no.
Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark - R.N.Tagore.
Faith is the trust and willingness to step into the unknown - Deepak Chopra
Faith is belief based on zero evidence
The problem is with the way "faith" is used. It gets used interchangeably as confidence, trust, truth, and belief. I have faith the sun will rise tomorrow. That's a statement of confidence based on experience. It's wrong to conflate that with faith that there is a diety.
Most major groups of the religious make 'statements of faith' where they explicitly say something to the effect of 'we know there's no evidence, faith is just belief'.
When you have 'faith' that the sun will arise tomorrow, that's a trust in the evidence based on it's consistent accuracy. It's even a bit of a stretch to call it 'trust'.
It's the other way around for the religious though. They've seen no substancial consistent evidence that points to a deity. It's always confirmation bias, personal incredulity, etc. They don't have 'trust' in the existance of a god or their doctrine, they have 'faith' because it's purely unsupported. Some groups support this idea and lean into the 'we know there's no natural evidence for it, but god is supernatural, so ha'.
Faith and reason are not compatible. By definition, "faith" is belief despite the absence of any good REASON to believe. If the belief was reasonable (that is to say, for some good reason, say, something like evidence) then it automatically ceases to BE faith, anymore.
The problem here is that too many people believe faith is some sort of *virtue*... something they are proud of having as if believing things without a reason was somehow a good thing. It is NOT. Faith is a failing of the intellect, and not a triumph of the spirit... The sooner humanity can abandon faith altogether and relegate its practise to history, the better. Now, this process is well under way, but it still moves ahead too slowly.
You have it all perfectly backwards. Faith is the very principle of learning and discovery, not doubt. If we all had a perfect knowledge and understanding of all things, there would be no need for faith, but clearly we do not, so faith is therefore essential. Your definition of faith is merely a secularist definition, not what is actually taught in scripture. Faith is a spiritual gift from God to help guide us to all truth. It is not at all in conflict with sound reason, only with flawed theories. Faith and reason go hand in hand. Therein lies the difference between KNOWING something and UNDERSTANDING it.
+effyleven your talking about blinds faith, blinds faith is saying I believe because I do, faith is based on reason, the reason why I faith is........, but is must be reasonable, don't confuse the two.
101mythbuster You can't have any "spiritual gift" from something that doesn't exist. Faith in its existence with absolutely zero evidence for such belief is not some kind of intellectual superiority. .. it is being an idiot. It is time to grow up, and STOP being an idiot!
+Emenz As already stated... faith is NOT having a reason for belief. That's the whole point of faith... the LACK of reason. Consequently, as already stated, if there WAS a reason for belief, BY DEFINITION it would not be faith.
Understanding fundamentals like this is crucial to any discussion on the matter. If you do not know what the words you are using actually MEAN, there is no way we can exchange any understanding, of fundamentals or anything else.
Good day.
effyleven Faith is the assurance of things for which we have no proof, hence, it is in and of itself a form of spiritual evidence. Faith is not merely intellectual belief as so many atheists define it, it is something you can feel. And yes, it is a very real gift, actually.
When did I ever say faith afforded me intellectual superiority? Not sure were you got that from, since the only ones thinking themselves intellectually superior are atheists, always accusing believers of being irrational. Well let me tell you, I have absolutely no need of suspending reason in order to accommodate my faith. Unlike you, I understand that our scientific knowledge of the universe doesn't even begin to scratch the surface. It would be irrational for me to discard the possibility of God. Don't be mad at me just because your tiny little mind can't fathom it.
This is conversation is semantics at this point. Believing in a god that shares no attributes with any god ever defined is not really believing in a god, IMO. Einstein said repeatedly that when he said "god" he meant the workings of the universe. It was not something that created us (or the universe), it did not impart morals, knowledge, or wisdom, it wasn't self-aware, and didn't require (or even understand) worship. It was just his term for existence (note that Spinoza differed on this point)
Why did we need an 18 minute video on this? The answer is very simply yes. That's it.
It's actually spelled,,,, no
Love to see this same debate today with Stephen Myer. These atheists have such a cartoonish view of God
Just because you can not understand how something came from nothing. Does not mean it can not happen. Use your reason based on evidence.
To have humilaty would mean that you should be willing to revise what you understand based on any evidence that requires such a revision...
......this is precisely what the scientific method demands but is in direct contrast with those whose faith based world views are held unrevisable from their scriptural dogma.
faith is compatible with reason as long they don't interfere with one another. But when when given a choice religious person will choose faith over logic and for example atheist would choose facts/logic over faith.
Faith as trust and faith as loyalty.
What is compatibility without reconciliation?
hint: objective honestly is not capable of creating a space where faith & reason to be reconcilable.
Did you patent these discoveries?
Katalyzt
Why are the arguments so short these days
How to believe/trust?. How to believe what books/people say or write?
Firstly, we have to find which religion is truth/true/right. How? We
must have same definition or meaning of the truth/true/right. We must
use same method to determine the truth/true/right. Believe => claim =
test/check = see. This is normally practice by everybody when we
buy/accept something/good which is expensive from other people(we see or
we do not see).
Example: We want to buy a black pen(can see - evidence) in the shop was
created/produced/manufactured by Marker(do not see) cost around 10K USD.
Producer/Manufacturer(do not see) claim, It is a black pen written on
the pen. The salesperson(can see) also claim, it is a black pen. Outside
(can see), the apparent is black in colour. Inside(ink, can not see),
we not sure, it is black or blue or other colour. So, we have to
test/check it. Take white paper and write to it to confirm it. It is
black. When I see, it is black. It is true/right. I believe/trust it.
So, I buy/accept it without any doubt. Same as how An automated teller
machine (ATM) work. Think. Must key in same number/pass word(only owner
know the pass word). If you do not want to test/check, it is up to you.
It is your money. It is your life. Free will. Our life is only one
chance given by god(can not see). When we die, we see the truth, we can
not go back in this world(can see). It is too late. I obey what Allah
say in Al Quran surah Al asr (The Time) 103(30): recommend one another
to the truth. I want to get mercy from Allah. If everybody can see god
and his power, there is only one religion. No free will. Have to ask
permission, when want to do something. have to get approval
first.Everybody fear to god. Everybody have to obey the command/law/rule
from that god only. No arrogant people/man. People/Man become humble.
like plant, bee, animal, moon, planets, sun, stars - because they see
and believe that god and his power. For sure, this world is peacefully.
Our faith is very expensive.Please open Al Quran Surah Al Hujurat 49:
6. O who believe! If a Fasiq (liar-evil person) comes to you with and
news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and
afterwards you become regretful for what you have done. Please open
Bible John 4:1. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test to see
whether they are from God, for false prophets have gone out into the
world. We test and verify the claim/message words of god from Bible (can
see), Torah (can see), Al Quran(can see), and other religion books(can
see). We must get/see same result(claim=test/check=see) or not. God(can
not see) create man(can see - evidence). Man worship god. Question: How
is god create man? What Method? God create man from ground
dust(Torah,Bible, Quran) or man rib(Torah, Bible,Quran) or woman
only(Bible,Quran) or Nutfah(mix drop of male (sperm) and female
sexual(female egg cell/ova) discharge)-Quran, 1440 years ago, they did
not see it, but now, we can see it by using electron microscopy. Or
other religion books or other book?. We do
testing/experimenting/checking to verify it, by using these method to
create man. Everybody can test/experiment/check, verify and see it.
Which method can create/produce man?.Answer: The claim/message/words of god in Al Quran is truth/true/right.
Conclusion: Certainly, we can create man by this method (claim by Al
Quran). Certainly, Al Quran is truth/true/right. Certainly, Allah create
man. Certainly, Man belong to Allah. Certainly, Man have to obey Allah
rule/law. Certainly, Prophet Muhammad s.a.w was the last prophet sent by
Allah to us. Certainly, This religion is truth/true/right. So, we have
to believe/trust it . Please, read Al Quran and think. Find and use
knowledge to make wise decision. You get the answer. Sorry, my English
is not very good.
The confidence people can have when they talk about things of which there's no evidence - at all. And of course, they all have different views on what God is. For some reason, God is always 100 % compatible with their own views on the world.
We have created a circumstance where the original predictions are no longer true. It's like finding a new way of overcoming gravity (mind you, that would be truly dramatic) and trying to figure out why. We know it does it - we found it, and we are going to find out why.
There are laws at work, we don't invent them, we discover them.
And then find uses for them, often cleverly, often deadly.
There is a boundary between the Atomic & sub-Atomic, a crossover, I am convinced. When we do, Hallelujah.
The 1st women speaking is insane. She is exactly what the 1st gentleman explained.
"I had a show on TV" I've proved it...
"The heart has intelligence"
Anyone who has a "personal truth" doesn't deserve consideration until they're willing to reconcile their personal truth with the personal truths of the people and environment around them.
love is the only source that makes you want too believe and love is real for love makes you want too see your loved ones again love makes you care and respect for when you love someone you want the best on them you care about them and you respect them i think love created us that is the true source i think we all will live again why would love create us and then let us die forever if it truly loved us
For a split second I thought it's men vs women
(Continued)
In other words: [I do not have faith that a chair will support my weight. I have confidence, based on the experience with similar chairs, along with my impression of the carpenter who made it, the material it was made from, etc. Faith is expectation without (or without sufficient) evidence. Whereas confidence is expectation justified by experience.] Do you understand? ;O)
Katalyzt
"Quantum cardiology." "Multi-dimensional holographic Universe." "The heart has an intellect all its own." Yep. Woo; 151 proof, no less.
This "1975" thing gradually took off in the 90's.
But here is an interesting fact, I have no idea how many people's doors I have knocked up upon, I have problems remembering more that one ot twice where they bring up "1975."
And have you noticed how easy it is to take one year, NOT AN ACTUAL DATE, out of context?
It is all about "years" - BUT NEVER A DATE.
Because the can't and because a "year" is a much easier target and to bastardise out of context... yep, that is a good word for it.
The blonde is 100% correct, she is in another dimension than the rest of us.
Yeah, its called heroin, haha
Ye plz join her there
The blonde one crammed together so much disjoint bullshit it’s actually impressive
@Steve nope
Why are they talking about only in religious terms & not as a human experience, wouldn't optimism be considered faith, it could or could not be compatible with reasoning, depends on the person. I mean, isn't believing just part of being human, same is true for reasoning, both do co-exist in our thought processes.
Why are they giving these nutjobs airtime? "We're living in a holographic multi-dimensional reality." O_o
Actually i don't think we can know that there are definately different fingerprints seeing as we haven't tested everyone's fingerprints.
The answer is yes.
Lets talk about me and my thoughts.
And while I agree that agnosticism is not atheism, some people can argue the "separate axis" of gnosticism and theism quite well. By those definitions there can be:
Gnostic Theists - Know there is are gods & believes in them
Agnostic Theists - Doesn't know if there are gods, but still believes in them
Agnostic Atheists - does know if there are gods, and doesn't believe in them
Gnostic Atheists - Knows there are not gods, and doesn't believe in them
Though I don't adhere to these definitions
Blondie comes out shooting her bullshit with all barrels blasting RIGHT after the gentleman earlier said people hold beliefs on faith on emotion rather than reason. And she doesn't listen to ANY argument directed at her.