Unfortunately in real life, sole people actually take Mel’s side even though he is full of bs, because they, too hate the other kids. In real life people don’t stand in solitary against the sociopath. The few honest people who tell the truth about Mel are the scorned ones.
Mel went on to have a very successful career in politics as a campaign strategist and spin doctor. He was a mentor to many subsequent spin doctors including Lee Atwater and James Carville.
"What would you do to cope with someone like Mel in your group?" (Doesnt say hes an outcast) "Could you help him?" (Immediate followup that is not self-motivated or justice seeking but considerate for even those who frustrate you) Dang that ending doesnt solve anything but it sure makes you want to try.
Mel obviously yearns for social acceptance, he seems to suffer social anxiety or a lack of socialization, to an extent. It would appear he is attempting to use the shock value of possible gossip to insert himself into the group, and his obvious stepping into the circle shows he thinks holding knowledge the others don't will make him valuable to them. Shown at the stairwell, he confidently tells them he knows something they don't. He either feels superiority over them or takes happiness in helping them, the precieved acceptence, and thinking they would appreciate the heads up on the exam. Judging by his reaction I would lean towards the latter. The lack of social awareness shows in how quickly he attempts to buddy-buddy with Dean, possibly taking Dean's momentary confusion at Susan's abrupt departure as a sign of at least semi-acceptance since he didn't immediatly walk off. Taking age into account I don't disparage Dean in his responses but point out how his own immaturiry contributed what could be best described as Mel's eventual mental breakdown at the dance. I think this was considered by the makers as they said at the end "would you have helped him?". Unless Mel is a completly amoral, manipulative politician I believe he was earnest with Dean about his passion with football, he a,misjudged, attempt to open up and bond with someone he admired. Though I believe his motives in telling Dean about Andy was more in the vindictive nature due to the snubbing he recieved it would not be out of reality to believe he honestly meant well, if he's to be believed. Lifelong intrest in the sport, watches practice, and[because of aforementioned social ineptitude] acts with a papparatzi like interest in his high school team. In an idealic situation Dean might have reccomended he try out for the team, mentioned Mel's football interest to coach. Possibly join the school newspaper as a sports reporter. The fact that he followed up on Mel's story shows he too believed Mel was being at least somewhat honest. Though letting Andy play rests the blame on him, not Mel, for what it contributed to losing the game. The dance was both their faults, everyone lost reason there.
@@120446219 Indeed? I appointed myself to nothing. I provided an opinion using the framework Alphabet created for the purpose of allowing people to provide their opinion on this website. It is you who have appointed me an expert by your words, but I reject the title you've tied to me. I am an expert at what I have proven to excel in. You, having no information concerning my education, cannot reasonably predict my level of understanding on the subject outside of what I have provided. Do you have any disagreement with my assessment of the video that you can rationally argue? Please give it. Any insight to add? I would enjoy hearing it. A flat out insult would even amuse me. Otherwise figure out beforehand whether someone is an expert on the subject before declaring them to be so.
I once got a call from a girl, and she was really angry at me. She was telling me how it was none of my business who she is friends with, and I need to leave her business alone. I was munching on a Kebab, wondering what the hell she was going on about. It took me about 5 seconds to realize who had put her up to this. It took about 5 seconds for her to apologize, because she realized she had been had by a jealous guy. Added to this how people want to believe the worst of everyone, you can imagine how impossible social life has become these days. This time she believed me. The 20 other times people believed this strange guy who always does the wrong thing. They want to, and that's it. There's no going back. People truly are awful and disgusting, and too many don't deserve to live in a society.
People like that are very annoying. I would not want them around. In fact, I think I have met a few and told them to leave me alone and there was one woman in particular who drove me mad (because she was a relentless bully who gossips and makes it a point to insult people she dislikes within their earshot among other rude things); and that almost made me act out aggressively towards her. But, I'm glad I didn't because I would've gotten into big trouble if I did. I'm not going to get into specific details online because it's not good for me to obsess about that and it's too personal, but I'm glad that person is not in my life anymore. Same with the other similar people.
Wait a minute.... How can Susan verify Mel's story about Andy? Mel told Dean that he saw Andy out walking AFTER dropping off Susan at home, so how would she know who he saw after he left?
Mel's like Othello's Iago...except he didn't cause Susan to get smothered to death. (If people cared if high school athletes were breaking curfew and training, they'd all be having anxiety attacks!)
Here is what I think happened afterwards: Mel was severely beaten by the football team and hospitalized for the next few months. Dean was convicted of aggravated assault and sent to reform school until his 21st birthday; Susan waited for him and married him after his release. The other team members were convicted of aggravated assault and sent to reform schools; most of them joined the military afterwards except for Andy who had both of his legs amputated slightly above the knee after being hit by a car; Mel was the one who drove the car yet was never arrested for the crime as he was never apprehended. Dean and Susan moved to Rhode Island where Dean became a firefighter and Susan was a homemaker. They had four children; Ruth, Gwendolyn, Sapphire, and Dean Jr. Mel tried to get his revenge on everyone who had beaten him over the years and successfully did so with most of the team. Mel became a drifter of sorts because of his raging sociopathy and was barely able to keep a job; he was also divorced and had a daughter named Elaine. His ex-wife and daughter moved back to Elaine’s hometown after their divorce and he never saw them again. Mel tried once more to get his revenge on Dean and nearly succeeded, however, he was killed after Susan stabbed him several times in self-defense after he attempted to rape her. Dean and Susan moved to Georgia afterwards where Dean retired from being a firefighter in 1995 and they lived happily ever after. Andy, on the other hand, was placed in an institution for people with disabilities after his legs were amputated and he lived there until he died of cancer in 1974.
He doesn’t know how to make friends it all goes back to how he was brought up. I don’t think he’s evil just doesn’t understand basic social skills. In the end he looked a bit remorseful
It's not physics, but we always had vocabulary terms in Biology and Earth Science class. We had them in most classes come to think of it. They were terms from the book particular to those subjects.
@@mikezylstra7514 I imagine it does vary from place to place and physics level. Entry level physics probably has more vocabulary than intermediate or advanced because the basics are made up of a lot of terms. I don't doubt most of it is math though.
Mel doesn't know how to communicate 👀 with other people🤔 he has trouble understanding personalities of various people, while he juggles with his own when in contact with others! But just to make people know/aware of his presence & not to be left out from the crowd, he says something, and gets in trouble with others for it😅
Mel seems to be the male version of Frieda Thompson from "The Gossip." Wouldn't be surprised if he's her younger brother or something. The only difference is that this time he actually gets called out on it, whereas Frieda was a total karma Houdini.
Interesting follow-up: Mel started the young republican,s club the following year . Went to Georgetown, got his law degree and eventually become part of the Nixon administration. After doing a 9 month bid for his role in the Watergate break-in, Mel mysteriously disappeared for 40 years. He surfaced again,and was last seen with Roger Stone in January 2021 near the Capital building in Washington DC.
You're not the first one. See the comments on this movie in Prelinger Archives. Many think Mel is gay. Also, that quarterback walking around the hotel district 11:30 PM is suspected of being a male prostitute lol.
I'm more curious about the deceptively mousey Susan and her promiscuous ways: He rode me home from library. *That's all!* ... she sounds rather defensive here, doesn't she? C'mon, Susan! What *really* happened on that ride home from the library???
What a weird comment. There is no evidence McCain ever did anything like that, and there is ample evidence he turned down early releaser being an admiral's son to stay with his men. Truth matters.
My grandpa used to grab me when he was super pissed off and say "don't give me any guff ya little shit" and spit out some red man tobacco. Fkn loggers man ,a lit of my family on that side was like that.
Boy, I have met this Mel guy all my life in all his different stages. The ones at work or the worst.
"What would you do with Mel?"
"Put him in charge of human resources at a giant corporation."
He sure fits the type.
Exactly or would do well in politics! Lol!
A male HR? Not sure that’s allowed. You can’t have a white supremacist deliver the mandatory Diversity Inclusion and Equity trainings!
Mel is the kind of “troublemaker” who has body parts in his freezer.
ha ha, good point. And they should do a girls version.
I was just about to say,Mel probably grew up to become a Charles Manson groupie
A good, thought provoking film/discussion for young adults of any era.
Unfortunately in real life, sole people actually take Mel’s side even though he is full of bs, because they, too hate the other kids. In real life people don’t stand in solitary against the sociopath. The few honest people who tell the truth about Mel are the scorned ones.
Mel goes on to live in his mother’s basement and spends his nights raging against women in the Interne....oh, wait.
Laudanum 1987 If you’ve got some Laudanum, perhaps we can change that...
He was the forerunner of the modern incels. XD
Back when teenagers looked to be about 30.
Now 30 year olds look like teenagers.
Lisa thurban+
Aint that the truth
Being born in 1940s was no joke. Rationing, men away from families....you grew up hard
Thsts what tf I was thinking
I know! WT?
Mel went on to have a very successful career in politics as a campaign strategist and spin doctor. He was a mentor to many subsequent spin doctors including Lee Atwater and James Carville.
Nice👌 thx
I thought he eventually became a lawyer. LOL
Interesting...was not aware of that detail. Not surprising, though.
This is the same guy who told Sara she was a "snob" in the film of the same name. That made her run from the room in tears.
He was being a troublemaker in that film too.
He’s a real piece of work, that guy.
Hey guys, I , er, dared the head cheer leader.
lol
I like watching these videos and wondering that became of some of these people.
In high school,everybody was a sociopath.
Mel strikes me as the kind of guy who gets hit a lot.
0:32
It's like Adam Sandler, Pee-Wee Herman and Jack from Will and Grace collided into each other perfectly.
Mel Stone grew up and changed his name to Matt Lauer.
This one girl in my grade is such a Mel. She once followed a guy wherever he went at a football game, like a real stalker, and said I asked her to.
Yeah if this were more realistic itd be the first reality show with HS girls
This should be titled, THE DOUCHE!
"What would you do to cope with someone like Mel in your group?" (Doesnt say hes an outcast) "Could you help him?" (Immediate followup that is not self-motivated or justice seeking but considerate for even those who frustrate you) Dang that ending doesnt solve anything but it sure makes you want to try.
Mel obviously yearns for social acceptance, he seems to suffer social anxiety or a lack of socialization, to an extent. It would appear he is attempting to use the shock value of possible gossip to insert himself into the group, and his obvious stepping into the circle shows he thinks holding knowledge the others don't will make him valuable to them.
Shown at the stairwell, he confidently tells them he knows something they don't. He either feels superiority over them or takes happiness in helping them, the precieved acceptence, and thinking they would appreciate the heads up on the exam. Judging by his reaction I would lean towards the latter. The lack of social awareness shows in how quickly he attempts to buddy-buddy with Dean, possibly taking Dean's momentary confusion at Susan's abrupt departure as a sign of at least semi-acceptance since he didn't immediatly walk off.
Taking age into account I don't disparage Dean in his responses but point out how his own immaturiry contributed what could be best described as Mel's eventual mental breakdown at the dance. I think this was considered by the makers as they said at the end "would you have helped him?".
Unless Mel is a completly amoral, manipulative politician I believe he was earnest with Dean about his passion with football, he a,misjudged, attempt to open up and bond with someone he admired. Though I believe his motives in telling Dean about Andy was more in the vindictive nature due to the snubbing he recieved it would not be out of reality to believe he honestly meant well, if he's to be believed. Lifelong intrest in the sport, watches practice, and[because of aforementioned social ineptitude] acts with a papparatzi like interest in his high school team.
In an idealic situation Dean might have reccomended he try out for the team, mentioned Mel's football interest to coach. Possibly join the school newspaper as a sports reporter. The fact that he followed up on Mel's story shows he too believed Mel was being at least somewhat honest. Though letting Andy play rests the blame on him, not Mel, for what it contributed to losing the game. The dance was both their faults, everyone lost reason there.
Where did you get your degree in Psychology?
@@annapaulikonis2433 Hello Anna.May I ask why you ask?
a self appointed expert...indeed.
@@120446219 Indeed? I appointed myself to nothing.
I provided an opinion using the framework Alphabet created for the purpose of allowing people to provide their opinion on this website.
It is you who have appointed me an expert by your words, but I reject the title you've tied to me. I am an expert at what I have proven to excel in. You, having no information concerning my education, cannot reasonably predict my level of understanding on the subject outside of what I have provided.
Do you have any disagreement with my assessment of the video that you can rationally argue? Please give it. Any insight to add? I would enjoy hearing it. A flat out insult would even amuse me. Otherwise figure out beforehand whether someone is an expert on the subject before declaring them to be so.
@@joelwinters100 again..try living outside the box. narrow minded people never can.
boy I'd like to clobber him myself!!
Yeeah you said it !
Clobber?? How 50's of you. lol
Why I outa...
At 11:27 I thought Mel was going to turn into a werewolf when that music played
I once got a call from a girl, and she was really angry at me. She was telling me how it was none of my business who she is friends with, and I need to leave her business alone.
I was munching on a Kebab, wondering what the hell she was going on about. It took me about 5 seconds to realize who had put her up to this. It took about 5 seconds for her to apologize, because she realized she had been had by a jealous guy.
Added to this how people want to believe the worst of everyone, you can imagine how impossible social life has become these days. This time she believed me. The 20 other times people believed this strange guy who always does the wrong thing. They want to, and that's it. There's no going back. People truly are awful and disgusting, and too many don't deserve to live in a society.
People like that are very annoying. I would not want them around. In fact, I think I have met a few and told them to leave me alone and there was one woman in particular who drove me mad (because she was a relentless bully who gossips and makes it a point to insult people she dislikes within their earshot among other rude things); and that almost made me act out aggressively towards her. But, I'm glad I didn't because I would've gotten into big trouble if I did. I'm not going to get into specific details online because it's not good for me to obsess about that and it's too personal, but I'm glad that person is not in my life anymore. Same with the other similar people.
The perfect ID name for online trolls to use - Mel Stone
Nice that Mel is a kind of guy who knows when everyone goes to bed. What a creep!
good point, ewwww
Window peeper?
Good ole Edddie Haskel
YES!!!
They picked the perfect person to play Mel. He was creepy!
Mel went into the military and blackmailed his way to sergeant. His platoon shot him.
Mel: My Life as a Compulsive Liar
Kind of reminds me of a little saying : "If you can't join them, beat them".
the opening film Noir music indicates that at least three people will have to die in the next 12 minutes
Mel the dude in the dare program that sell you drugs
Sweet how Dean is concerned about Andy’s lack of sleep
Teens were more considerate back then.
I have went to school and worked with some 'Mels' in my day
We will always have someone like Mel in this society.
That many people at a high school game?
There wasn't as much stuff to do back then.
Amanda Hudson it’s college.
“She’s nice, PERIODT.”
Anahy Granados period
He just wants to speak the truth.
He was just plain evil
Actually, in present times there are a lot worst.
The troublemakers at my high school wore sport coats too
Wait a minute.... How can Susan verify Mel's story about Andy? Mel told Dean that he saw Andy out walking AFTER dropping off Susan at home, so how would she know who he saw after he left?
Methinks you think too much.
Mel's like Othello's Iago...except he didn't cause Susan to get smothered to death. (If people cared if high school athletes were breaking curfew and training, they'd all be having anxiety attacks!)
50s trolls
Here is what I think happened afterwards:
Mel was severely beaten by the football team and hospitalized for the next few months. Dean was convicted of aggravated assault and sent to reform school until his 21st birthday; Susan waited for him and married him after his release. The other team members were convicted of aggravated assault and sent to reform schools; most of them joined the military afterwards except for Andy who had both of his legs amputated slightly above the knee after being hit by a car; Mel was the one who drove the car yet was never arrested for the crime as he was never apprehended.
Dean and Susan moved to Rhode Island where Dean became a firefighter and Susan was a homemaker. They had four children; Ruth, Gwendolyn, Sapphire, and Dean Jr. Mel tried to get his revenge on everyone who had beaten him over the years and successfully did so with most of the team. Mel became a drifter of sorts because of his raging sociopathy and was barely able to keep a job; he was also divorced and had a daughter named Elaine. His ex-wife and daughter moved back to Elaine’s hometown after their divorce and he never saw them again. Mel tried once more to get his revenge on Dean and nearly succeeded, however, he was killed after Susan stabbed him several times in self-defense after he attempted to rape her. Dean and Susan moved to Georgia afterwards where Dean retired from being a firefighter in 1995 and they lived happily ever after. Andy, on the other hand, was placed in an institution for people with disabilities after his legs were amputated and he lived there until he died of cancer in 1974.
i loved that happy ending
This is some shakespearean writing!
Damn, Mel Stone's ( the Troublemaker) eyebrows: straight-up on Fleek!
eyebrow pencil
Mel yesterday's keyboard warrior
There's a massdisturber among us!
Dr. Phil would send Mel to a psyco resort in the TN foothills to get to the root of his antisocial behavior.
It's the only way Mel.knows to try to connect with others
I never got the answer to what instrument measures force!
A force gauge, force meter, or dynamometer. Or a Yoda. Yeah, use a Yoda.
The word guff does not get used enough 4:40
He doesn’t know how to make friends it all goes back to how he was brought up. I don’t think he’s evil just doesn’t understand basic social skills. In the end he looked a bit remorseful
🙄
I don’t understand basic social skills either. I with someone would explain them to me. Maybe you?
Troublemakers never prosper.
Times have changed.
That school building is huge yet we only see a handful of students.
The QB was worried about his teammate. And Mel tried to elevate himself by making them look bad. What a loser.
Are these the same actors/actresses from other movie shorts?
Yep they are.
I believe so. Doesn’t Mel appear in,
“The Snob”?
Oh no, trouble over there!
That Mel is also a gaslighter
I younger ages, 5 yrs old 1959 this prog.
Then theys actor's,
Love the music cue at 5:22.
Mark Brown It's dramatic, isn't it? lol
Buh buh buh BUHH...😱😆🤣
When was the last time there was a team doctor for high school sports
What kind of physics class has a vocabulary test?
One during the cold war I guess?
Dummie physics. See his letter? He's a jock, not too much brains.
It's not physics, but we always had vocabulary terms in Biology and Earth Science class. We had them in most classes come to think of it. They were terms from the book particular to those subjects.
@@RAMizer Our physics classes were entirely math.
@@mikezylstra7514 I imagine it does vary from place to place and physics level. Entry level physics probably has more vocabulary than intermediate or advanced because the basics are made up of a lot of terms. I don't doubt most of it is math though.
Mel doesn't know how to communicate 👀 with other people🤔 he has trouble understanding personalities of various people, while he juggles with his own when in contact with others!
But just to make people know/aware of his presence & not to be left out from the crowd, he says something, and gets in trouble with others for it😅
Mel seems to be the male version of Frieda Thompson from "The Gossip." Wouldn't be surprised if he's her younger brother or something.
The only difference is that this time he actually gets called out on it, whereas Frieda was a total karma Houdini.
Interesting follow-up:
Mel started the young republican,s club the following year . Went to Georgetown, got his law degree and eventually become part of the Nixon administration.
After doing a 9 month bid for his role in the Watergate break-in, Mel mysteriously disappeared for 40 years.
He surfaced again,and was last seen with Roger Stone in January 2021 near the Capital building in Washington DC.
So many Susans
Kick his butt! Lol 😫😂
Ole Mel
0:32 its adam sandler
Force meter 1:52
I wonder if the young gal Susan is played by Toni Basil?
Dang I thought this was going to be slightly homoerotic
You're not the first one. See the comments on this movie in Prelinger Archives. Many think Mel is gay. Also, that quarterback walking around the hotel district 11:30 PM is suspected of being a male prostitute lol.
Kinda weird that this guy knows when other people should be in bed.
Mel seems like a real creep, but grabbing him by the jacket lapels is a very 50’s response. Would not recommend anyone take that approach today
damn't those video make ya think donìt they?
"could you help him? "
Man... Trying to help Mels, fucks one up.
So Melvin's problem is he's a tattle-tale and pot-stirrer? "Troublemaker" seems a little vague, lol.
Mel is a nuisance
I'm more curious about the deceptively mousey Susan and her promiscuous ways:
He rode me home from library. *That's all!* ... she sounds rather defensive here, doesn't she? C'mon, Susan! What *really* happened on that ride home from the library???
She said he "DROVE her home...." Don't put your 21st century immoral thoughts into someone who was thinking the right way 70 years ago!
@@jb6712 Mmm ... I may have 21st Century morals, but you make *"DROVE her home"* sound so dirty ... and I mean that in a good way
Smell the guy's finger.
World's oldest high school students. They can join the students in West Side Story and Grease.
I know some of these hire adults to play teenagers, but damn, this one is the worst. These people look ancient
The girlfriend is a looker!
she looks like a girl from the time
You’re “boning” up on the wrong thing??? 😂
I know you were trying to make a sexual joke, but boning up on something actually means studying it. So, it's not as dirty as it sounds.
yep
slang changes, look it up it's fun
Today, Mel probably be shot.
Some of these teenagers look like they're already working on their second divorce.
There is something homoerotic about this film. I think its this teenage boys hanging out in the hotel district at 11:30 PM thing. .
Mel seems like a young John McCain. He would later sell out his fellow Vietnam POWs to their captors. What a great guy!
Mel aka No Name!
What a weird comment. There is no evidence McCain ever did anything like that, and there is ample evidence he turned down early releaser being an admiral's son to stay with his men. Truth matters.
That's the same pos who called my girl a snob right to her face.
The girl at 1:35 is reminding me too much of Toni Basil.
take the tires off his car.
Run for senator.
Today, Mel would be a Democrat and Biden supporter.
Mel is really a woman.
I don't like Mel's. Now their called Soy boy's
And later in life, Mel worked in the Trump administration.
Ummm this type of behaviour would be better suited to Antifa,wouldn't you agree?
Democrats are evil
Mel reminds me of Nancy Pelosi. "What do you think Trump was talking about with the Russians? I bet they were talking about Hillary's campaign".
they don't have real football helmets
Narcissism? If you're going to instigate with a man twice your size take your hands out of your pockets. -_-
Guff? WTF is "guff"?
Guff is nonsense, crap, BS, anything that isn't true like what we hear all the time from advertising and politics.
Miriam Bucholtz-What you said!
I don’t take any guff
My grandpa used to grab me when he was super pissed off and say "don't give me any guff ya little shit" and spit out some red man tobacco. Fkn loggers man ,a lit of my family on that side was like that.
Must be some 1950’s slang.
Mel would be tweeting about Pocahontas today
yes, definitely a Trumpster
@@hopemccubbin8661 definitely not