I love how every Skaven lord is doing a dramatic walk and Skrolk is literally just a walking fart cloud. "I cant see anything, and soon *NEITHER WILL YOU* "
The only difference between Queek and Tretch starting location being next to a lot of enemies is the fact that Queek can actually fight them. Can't believe you did my boy like this.
I just got into this game, and terribly addicted. I cannot believe how much content this game has, and the potential for game variety. It's fuckin insane
I think he really undervalued the plague mechanic for Skrolk. He also really undervalued the shadowy dealings, which are the most broken mechanic in this game.
I was super surprised to see queek at the bottom. He's by far my favorite lord but the points you made were honestly pretty fair and I never really thought about them before. Hes still the coolest though no one will ever tell me otherwise lmao
wouldn't that be like saying the shrine of asuryan for the High Elves is a unique faction mechanic? like, once you start including unique landmarks, it sets a precedent and gets a bit messy
@@kylarstern17 All the skaven factions start with a unique building, though. So if he was gonna mention that, he would've needed to mention it for all of them.
About Snikch the faction mechanic increase recruitment cost not upkeep, that just mean he'll need to sack more to get cash burst to afford non-eishin units
This. That Is a massive difference. If I build a weapons team doomstack as Eshin, it costs me more up front, and then is functionally identical, but I'll never have to worry about loyalty. Throw in using his faction mechanics creatively and he's easily tied for second with Doctor Frankenskaven. Very powerful, just not absurdly broken like Ikit Claw.
I'd run the list like this: 1. Skryre (More warpstone yes-yes!) 2. Moulder (Moulder lab is great) 3. Eshin (AP gutter runners? Kill the ordertide? YES!) 4. Pestilens (beaten by eshin because of starting location) 5. Queek (better than Tretch in every way) 6. Tretch (Garbage in battle, surrounded by elves and no real beneficial faction bonuses)
Personally I like the more melee oriented legendary lords like queek and tretch. My favorite caster so far is lord skrolk but I'm sure when thanquol arrives that will change. I really like clan moulder and throt the unclean because they made rat ogres, my favorite skaven monstrous infantry. Ikit claw is cool because of his forbidden workshop mechanic and sniktch is an awesome stealth lord.
@@ItachiUchiha-69 personally I like the current vampire counts army but I just think they need some more start locations and unique mechanics because they are all kinda similar campaigns
@@JWootton in lore and table top they have trebuchet’s that fling grave stones. I think at the very least we should get those, they’re alright in sfo but in vanilla all they have going for them is their lords and few other things. The faction still needs a dlc in my opinion it’s sat stagnant for a while now, at least one or two more units like rakarth being able to recruit unique monsters outside of his faction. Maybe go around looking for ancient wights to raise as a faction mechanic, that would be cool.
Queek>Tretch by quite a big margin. Plagues can't carry a faction? True, but Skrolk Plagues most definately can carry a faction. Not to mention, Plagues can be used to break seemingly unbreakable situations. Time everything right and you can use 1 stack to take out 3 and take a city at the same time simlpy because plague rekt them beforehand. And while i agree with the list overall (bar Queek vs tretch situation) Sniktch is probably the strongest one out there jsut because he can literally delete a faction. Then again I once had campaign where i was alone vs entire Old world as Ikit and destroyed all of them in the end. Ikit is just Ikit i guess.
Honestly tretch should've been in last place, he's so bad. At least queek can do decently in melee, tretch just loses vs most and his special items are so awkward. In comparison warp shard armour is such a great item, giving ward save, melee defence, armour, skaven corruption and a debuff to all enemies within 40m giving -5 md and -23 armour. Dwarf gouger is also pretty good, and the unique skill trophy heads makes queek pretty sweet at taking out enemy lords/heroes. Plus thanks to his faction bonuses and special building, he can get 3 chieftains on turn 1, which really gives him an early power boost. That and having a starting undercity decently far away so he can get some good food generation going early really puts him above queek. Nowhere near the rest of the lords though, lel.
i dont know if theres a single LL that tretch can duel against and win, and queek is probably one of the best in the game for that and he has better items
@@ultra3755 agreed, i quite like the idea of tretch, and he's got some interesting concepts, but the actual stats are just pretty sad compared to queek, particularly given the item difference.
Snikch may not be the most powerful rat. But Clan Eshin is an 11 in power when you get your shadowy dealings going. Especially when you can just Thanos snap a faction away. Don't get me wrong, I love nukes, but Eshin was one of the easiest complete map clears I ever played.
I feel like you disregarded Shadowy dealings in 2 major ways. For one you get diplomatic possibilities with other major skaven, meaning you can confederate em. You also get a late game you die button. Recruiting being somewhat more expensive it’s nothing much.
Personal list: 6. Tretch 5. Queek 4. Throt 3. Lord Skrolk 2. Snikch for the ability to nuke a faction ( _Fall into Anarchy_ ) 1. Ikit Claw, a.k.a. N.U.K.E.S
Correction ikit seconde place only buff distance units troth first can upgrade all units that are not arm squad buff monster as hell get the 3 best monster for skaven very fast
Clan Eshin (rather than Snikch himself, it seems), with an ability to destroy entire factions at a 100 turn cooldown, is at place 4? The fuck is this list?
Queek is number 1 for sure haha He better be number one QUEEK IS BEST RAT-KIN! ALL BOW-KNEEL TO QUEEK! Guys Queek is last... **Walter White dropping onto the sand crying meme**
Scrolk is for me by far the worst...Plague mechanic isnt realy useful, you have to fight lizzards early and overall he is boring. Scretch has vanguard for all troops which makes him very useful in battle And Quiek is just a badass skaven
I think as bad as Queek is, he's still CLEARLY far better than Tretch. Tretch is insultingly bad, even for a free DLC. I'd put Skrolk 2nd. I just value the plagues, plague priests, and cheap plague catapults more than I value the mutations.
SFO does wonders for Queek. Imo, it's an absolutely essential mod for Warhammer II, no matter what faction you prefer to play as. SFO doesn't do much to save Tretch, but Mors gets a massive boost in strength with it and it makes a clanrats/stormvermin and artillery scum rush totally doable and quite strong. I'd put him on point with Skrolk there, tied for fourth, with Tretch as an isolated last place, Throt in third, Ikit in second, and Snikch in first (simply cuz he can delete entire factions with a push of one button)
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What's your Skaven lord ranking?
Just FYI, shadowy dealings only increases recruitment cost. Their upkeep remains the same.
Hahahahahahah
Tretch vanguard go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I had 5 and 6 switched but same same.
I like how this list is just an ascending scale of technology from basic medieval swords and spears to the kind of stuff that won WWII.
I love how every Skaven lord is doing a dramatic walk and Skrolk is literally just a walking fart cloud.
"I cant see anything, and soon *NEITHER WILL YOU* "
The only difference between Queek and Tretch starting location being next to a lot of enemies is the fact that Queek can actually fight them.
Can't believe you did my boy like this.
I just got into this game, and terribly addicted. I cannot believe how much content this game has, and the potential for game variety. It's fuckin insane
My list:
1. Ikit claw
2. Throt
3. Sniktch
4. Skrolk ( best Vortex LL )
5. Queek ( Landmarks / Karak 8 peaks three-way )
6. Tretch
"plague won't win you battles" Thats the only way i can take out itza early on is if i plague his main settlement and rush it
I think he really undervalued the plague mechanic for Skrolk.
He also really undervalued the shadowy dealings, which are the most broken mechanic in this game.
@@barkerm9 Yeah, no other mechanic can kill 80+ dwarf settlements in one click.
I think this boy should talk more about hair colouring and less about this game.
I was super surprised to see queek at the bottom. He's by far my favorite lord but the points you made were honestly pretty fair and I never really thought about them before.
Hes still the coolest though no one will ever tell me otherwise lmao
You forgot both the Karak Eight Peaks mechanic and the Clan Mors starting building for Queek.
wouldn't that be like saying the shrine of asuryan for the High Elves is a unique faction mechanic? like, once you start including unique landmarks, it sets a precedent and gets a bit messy
@@Lynch2507 no since they don't start with it.
@@kylarstern17 All the skaven factions start with a unique building, though. So if he was gonna mention that, he would've needed to mention it for all of them.
@@TheYannir he mentioned Treemen for Alarielle so yes he should mention all of them.
Guess before video: Tretch, Queek, Snikch, Skrolk, Thrott, Ikit. Ascending Order.
After: I was close.
that was my guess too.
Honestly correct as well. Queek definitely is better than Tretch. No reason to play them when the other 4 are so much better though.
About Snikch the faction mechanic increase recruitment cost not upkeep, that just mean he'll need to sack more to get cash burst to afford non-eishin units
This. That Is a massive difference. If I build a weapons team doomstack as Eshin, it costs me more up front, and then is functionally identical, but I'll never have to worry about loyalty.
Throw in using his faction mechanics creatively and he's easily tied for second with Doctor Frankenskaven. Very powerful, just not absurdly broken like Ikit Claw.
Imagine a Coop campaign with Ikit and Sknitch
I love watching your rankings cuz I too am a scrub at this game that isn’t interested in anything outside the campaigns
I'd run the list like this:
1. Skryre (More warpstone yes-yes!)
2. Moulder (Moulder lab is great)
3. Eshin (AP gutter runners? Kill the ordertide? YES!)
4. Pestilens (beaten by eshin because of starting location)
5. Queek (better than Tretch in every way)
6. Tretch (Garbage in battle, surrounded by elves and no real beneficial faction bonuses)
Who is the best LL in Warhammer, and why is obviously Ikit Claw? 😄
He’s literally the most insane.
And he has Nukes.
Personally I like the more melee oriented legendary lords like queek and tretch. My favorite caster so far is lord skrolk but I'm sure when thanquol arrives that will change. I really like clan moulder and throt the unclean because they made rat ogres, my favorite skaven monstrous infantry. Ikit claw is cool because of his forbidden workshop mechanic and sniktch is an awesome stealth lord.
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Well done
We need more vampire count lords and units.
@@ItachiUchiha-69 personally I like the current vampire counts army but I just think they need some more start locations and unique mechanics because they are all kinda similar campaigns
@@JWootton in lore and table top they have trebuchet’s that fling grave stones. I think at the very least we should get those, they’re alright in sfo but in vanilla all they have going for them is their lords and few other things. The faction still needs a dlc in my opinion it’s sat stagnant for a while now, at least one or two more units like rakarth being able to recruit unique monsters outside of his faction. Maybe go around looking for ancient wights to raise as a faction mechanic, that would be cool.
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Queek>Tretch by quite a big margin.
Plagues can't carry a faction? True, but Skrolk Plagues most definately can carry a faction. Not to mention, Plagues can be used to break seemingly unbreakable situations. Time everything right and you can use 1 stack to take out 3 and take a city at the same time simlpy because plague rekt them beforehand.
And while i agree with the list overall (bar Queek vs tretch situation) Sniktch is probably the strongest one out there jsut because he can literally delete a faction. Then again I once had campaign where i was alone vs entire Old world as Ikit and destroyed all of them in the end. Ikit is just Ikit i guess.
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0:18 Queek Headtaker: *sniff* AAAAAH he much stink smells!! Horned Rat shelter save me yes yes!?
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Honestly tretch should've been in last place, he's so bad. At least queek can do decently in melee, tretch just loses vs most and his special items are so awkward. In comparison warp shard armour is such a great item, giving ward save, melee defence, armour, skaven corruption and a debuff to all enemies within 40m giving -5 md and -23 armour. Dwarf gouger is also pretty good, and the unique skill trophy heads makes queek pretty sweet at taking out enemy lords/heroes. Plus thanks to his faction bonuses and special building, he can get 3 chieftains on turn 1, which really gives him an early power boost. That and having a starting undercity decently far away so he can get some good food generation going early really puts him above queek. Nowhere near the rest of the lords though, lel.
i dont know if theres a single LL that tretch can duel against and win, and queek is probably one of the best in the game for that and he has better items
@@ultra3755 agreed, i quite like the idea of tretch, and he's got some interesting concepts, but the actual stats are just pretty sad compared to queek, particularly given the item difference.
Great video mate, good sense of humour and well put together. Can you do Lizardmen next?
Good stuff, loving your videos.
Snikch may not be the most powerful rat. But Clan Eshin is an 11 in power when you get your shadowy dealings going. Especially when you can just Thanos snap a faction away. Don't get me wrong, I love nukes, but Eshin was one of the easiest complete map clears I ever played.
Lmao, Tretch so bad he doesn’t even get a spot on the thumbnail
Love this series.
Keep up the amazing work
I feel like you disregarded Shadowy dealings in 2 major ways. For one you get diplomatic possibilities with other major skaven, meaning you can confederate em. You also get a late game you die button. Recruiting being somewhat more expensive it’s nothing much.
Putting tretch over queek is just a scheme, right?
I am also soooo glad you're doing these now. I haven't watched yet. But I KNOW it'll be better than LOTW's. You rock COL.
Why the hate for LOTW?
So what your saying is "Ikit claw best of all the things"
Great video
You should also say the traits you get when you defeat them
Literally just thinking you were due for this lol
Tretch beating Queek is rather odd.
Personal list:
6. Tretch
5. Queek
4. Throt
3. Lord Skrolk
2. Snikch for the ability to nuke a faction ( _Fall into Anarchy_ )
1. Ikit Claw, a.k.a. N.U.K.E.S
Why is lore of ruin one of the best lores? I only spam the one spell that has a winds of magic reduction cost with doom flayer
6:04 Its Recruitment cost NOT Upkeep.
Need more warpstonesss!
Clan Eshin Supremacy, Yes-Yes, Best-Greatest Clan. Not Lying.
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Correction ikit seconde place only buff distance units troth first can upgrade all units that are not arm squad buff monster as hell get the 3 best monster for skaven very fast
Great vid, but pretty sure Eshin campaign mechanics increase recruitment cost by 200%, not upkeep
Tretch as the second to last, thats a bold move
Clan Eshin (rather than Snikch himself, it seems), with an ability to destroy entire factions at a 100 turn cooldown, is at place 4? The fuck is this list?
eshin triads are good at sneaking up on monster
Rats with nukes? yes-yes!
Of course Ikit Claw is the best ❤
Tretch higher than Queek? *thinking*
I guees the 1th place was decided long time ago
I like unit
Queek is number 1 for sure haha
He better be number one
QUEEK IS BEST RAT-KIN!
ALL BOW-KNEEL TO QUEEK!
Guys Queek is last...
**Walter White dropping onto the sand crying meme**
I actually like Queek, but to each their own.
Scrolk is for me by far the worst...Plague mechanic isnt realy useful, you have to fight lizzards early and overall he is boring. Scretch has vanguard for all troops which makes him very useful in battle
And Quiek is just a badass skaven
The best Skaven Lord is a dead Skaven Lord... change my mind.
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It's quite the sausage party among us viewers.
why Tretch is over Queek?
You sound a lot like Zerkovich
Ikit !
I think as bad as Queek is, he's still CLEARLY far better than Tretch. Tretch is insultingly bad, even for a free DLC.
I'd put Skrolk 2nd. I just value the plagues, plague priests, and cheap plague catapults more than I value the mutations.
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I wish tretch was better than he is.
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How the fuck Tretch is not the worst?
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SFO does wonders for Queek. Imo, it's an absolutely essential mod for Warhammer II, no matter what faction you prefer to play as. SFO doesn't do much to save Tretch, but Mors gets a massive boost in strength with it and it makes a clanrats/stormvermin and artillery scum rush totally doable and quite strong. I'd put him on point with Skrolk there, tied for fourth, with Tretch as an isolated last place, Throt in third, Ikit in second, and Snikch in first (simply cuz he can delete entire factions with a push of one button)