Can you Varnish Dirty Down Paints without trashing your model?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2023
- I test four of the most recommended options for sealing/varnishing Dirty Down water soluble effect paints. Will they be as good as people say? What sort of results could you get depending on how you use them?
This one did not go as expected!
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Very interesting. I had heard you couldn't varnish after, which concerned me, but didn't hear why. I had assumed it was a reactivation issue. If it just dulls it down it's not too bad, and, like you say, you can intentionally start brighter/stronger. Good work.
Thanks!
Useful as always. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
This couldn’t have come at a better time for me - was about to use some on a model and then varnish tonight! Guess I’ll add a little after the varnish. Cheers
Glad I could help!
A good way of getting a weathered effect just using basic acrylic paint is to brush a thin coat of water onto the painted surface, and then randomly blob diluted paint (rust, grime colour or whatever) onto it The paint spreads out in random ways, and can be fixed in place at the most aesthetic point by using a hairdryer on a low setting (high settings tend to blow the paint around). By using this technique in layers and varying the colours, quite a convincing effect can be achieved.
I love that technique. Yes I am intending to dig more into a whole range of different weathering techniques like this
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Ok , so don’t varnish over it! :)
Thanks for tests and avoiding me some pain! :)
Glad I could help! 😁
I didn’t know this when I was knew. And I did it to a knight Paladin. Ruined it in my eyes. So now I do my paint job. Then varnish. Then use technicals and weathering effects so blood for the blood god burgles rot typhus corrosion don’t get weird.
Just thought I wonder if adding a little acrylic varnish to the dirty down prior to application would work.
Interesting thought and could be worth a test. Im not sure how well it would seal it though, as it wouldn't be creating a layer over the Dirty Down. But would be interesting to see what happens!
I tried the crystal clear matt finish and found that not only did it leave a glossy finish and wasn't Matt at all it also changed the dirty down finish on my models and they lost the affect and went all shiny. I sent the can back to Amazon
Thats interesting, so that pretty much replicated what we found in these tests. Did you spray "close" or mist it from a distance?
@@FlyingRavenStudiosI tried close and at a distance. I found the closer I got the more glossy finish I had
Considering it's the product people recommend as well... I would not recommend it at all
Yeah I have to admit, this result was the one that suprised me the most considering (like you) what I had read online
@@FlyingRavenStudiosalso people need to be very careful when spraying varnish at a arms distance. If it's to humid the varnish will have dried to much before hitting the model and you can end up with a white cloudy finish . Very helpful video by the way. If you had to pick 1 product what would you pick and via what application?
Dirty down products are 90% hype.
To be fair to them,I think it very much depends on what you want to use them for.
You really screwed the pooch with your test models. Using a rust colored paint on a brown, is like checking the vibrancy/shading quality of a green wash on a dark angels green-colored basecoat - theres just no way that its going to end with clear, usable results. Therefore, i'd go ahead and drop/delete this video, and give it another swing. The next time you do it, actually PAINT your test models. They don't need to be golden demon quality, but prime/basecoat with a midtone silver (or grey), stipple over it with some brown, nuln oil the hell out it, and dry brush with a brigher silver (or grey). THEN apply your dirty down rust, and THEN try your various varnishes. Sorry buddys, its a strong 'Thumbs Down' for me.
Also, you NEED to shake the HELL out of those dirty down paints, and yes, mind your room temps.
Hi @geteavnroc2250, Thanks for your comment. The technique you described can indeed get a great result if that is the result you are going for. One thing I do like about Dirty Down paints is their versatility, and I have done several videos on different ways you can use them, including a brown base colour. Although I fully appreciate each technique will not be to everyones personal preference.
The aim of this video is to test how different varnishes behave over this type of effect, rather than a painting tutorial. But I am always looking for ways I can get this information across in a visually appealing way, as much as making it relatable to whatever genre of modelling people are into.
So therefore, I am grateful for your feedback! I will certainly keep it in mind for future videos
Absolutely. I have gone into shaking these paints in great detail in previous videos and I guess I didn't go into this again for fear of sounding like a stuck record. But I forget that people may not have seen those yet. So thanks, that is an excellent point!