I feel like I didn't really need an 11 minute video to tell me the race of robots made of self repairing metal firing disintegration beams from their eyes that use avatars of the fundamental laws of the universe as *batteries* for their naughty toys are the best in terms of tech... lol
@@TheAnon03 Dark Age tech isn't near the Necrons. What is holding the Necrons back as a whole is their constant fighting amongst themselves. But during the War in Heaven the Necrons were united under 1 ruler. DAOT humans were NEVER united its one of the reasons the men of iron rebelling was so devastating. DAOT humans used fusion drives and warp based FTL both of which Necrons consider barbaric and far less advanced. In the twice dead king its stated the Necrons moved to inertialess engines before the war in heaven and C'tan. Necrons were able to shatter material universe gods and use them a batteries. The Emperor of mankind the strongest human to ever exist only fought a shard of a C'tan and it was one of the hardest fights he ever had. Necrons use multiple dimensions to transport their troops through, contain massive amounts of items, and trap star gods in. DAOT could only access 2 dimensions the material universe and the immaterium. Necrons have a WMD that deletes solar systems from existing. DAOT never had anything even remotely close to that.
I think the Dark age of technology was closer to the Necrons than you might think, I mean they had time travel and some of the weapons used in the war against the Men of Iron ate timespace itself.
@@TheAnon03 Necrons weave time and space like it's clay. Orikan the diviner is so good at it other Necrons don't even notice. Unless your name is Trazyn. The most advanced DAOT tech we have seen. Is from an ark mechanicus. It shot a blackhole and reversed time so the eldar got sucked into it. Necrons pause time think about what they want to do then unpause time and do it. Or they leave reality itself and just move inbetween planes of existence. DAOT only ever had access to the warp. Necrons have access to like 5 different dimensions we know of. They do that as casually as the imperium turns a person into a slave. Was DAOT advanced yes. We're they close to the Necrons no not even remotely.
It's crazy that Belisarius Cawl made a lot of new technology while completing the Primaris Marine Project without somehow tipping off the Adeptus Administratum, Mechanicus and the Inquisition for 10,000 years until Roboute Guilliman woke up.
Well, he does have a giant spaceship that is entirely his and probably got a whole bunch of resources from the dudes he combined into himself. Plus the Emperor basically laid the groundwork for this, and Guilliman gave him the resources to complete it, so he probably just had all the necessary material moved to his Ark Mechanicus and went from there.
Well you already stated why he was able to do that: Gorillaman was involved. So Cawl can pretty much ignore all the established lore and do whatever the writers want because he's under his codex compliant dome of bs ultra plot armor.
Vaporising things to the molecular level isn't really all that impressive, though? That's basically what extreme heat weapons like plasma and melta weapons are doing - heck, plasmas are usually at temperatures where the molecules themselves break apart. Gauss flayers are able to do it through a different approach than simple application of energy, but it's worth noting that the effects are slow enough that they're not actually that much better than bolters in practice. It's quite likely that the gauss flayer is something that another advanced race like the Eldar could replicate, but don't due to a doctrinal difference - the Eldar (and Tau to a lesser extent) emphasise speed, while the main strength of gauss flayers is that enough application of even the basic gauss flayer will eventually destroy anything, which fits the Necron "implacable man" approach. The star map seems to be a one-off device so I'd consider that to be on a similar level to DAoT or pre-fall Eldar lost tech (the pre-fall Eldar at least claimed to have similar capabilities).
@@KiwiMarines You responded to a comment on a video about the lore behind a somewhat more complicated version of chess in a science fiction setting. So right back atcha.
The stuff we've seen so far is mostly mid-tier necron tech. Only the Celestial Orrery is an example of their best work. Even the Aeonic Orb, a weapon that is literally a Sun inside of a Pokeball that has been weaponized and when broken RELEASES AN ENTIRE SUN into a solar system causing unimaginable destruction is mid compared to the absolutely incomprehensible shit they deployed during the War in Heaven. Their terrifying spaceships are like luxury cruse liners. When the Necrons finally awaken their appallingly dangerous stuff the universe will absolutely know about it.
They managed to fight essentially warp gods, the eldari at that time were essentially all just emperors of mankind level of phyker and smart orks at the same time and basically win.
A video on if magnus took the emperors replacement legion would be dope, it's been like 3ish months of me asking and despite missing last video I shall continue until it is done
This is a great idea actually, as it would change both his and Vulkans role in the Siege of Terra, and it would be interesting to learn about what those new roles would be
Don't forget that the Dark Angels have a retcon gun. I'm not kidding, they have a gun that not only erases a target, but removes them from history books, memories, even the Warp.
You know that picture of the Dark Eldar fighting those Necrons raises the question of why? Like it has to be either a mistake or some Dark Eldar having a weird moment of ancestral hatred because they'd get nothing from doing that.
A lot of cron worlds are found on other races worlds. D-eldar come out for supplies and get caught in a cross fire. Same they both use the web ways and come into conflict with each other over this space.
Was one instance where there was a raid on an imperial frontier planet. Once the DE landed the Necrons ambushed them and didn’t bother killing humans as they waited for the Dark Eldar.
Something you forgot to add about the Necrons and Tau they are the most willing to adapt and upgrade their technology so they might even make more advanced stuff in the future.
Exactly, the tech persists are stuck finding stuff that humanity has already done and lost knowledge of. If the golden age humans had nothing that can compare to the Necrons, there's no competition. They won't adapt and make new stuff, the only one that can and will is seen as a heretic lol. He has been working with that one Necron that wants to steal everything sooo there's a small chance
well to be fair that was more intentional than anything else since basically in the development of crafwords they realized that they needed to do something for themselves and not have a life that was too easy in order to not get bored and fall back into the vision cycle of his race so they lowered 2 rayitaa to his technology at that time
i think there has to be a few very specific instances where some of the other races might have better tech than the others, but the necrons do things that seem like magic, being characterizing and having similar descriptions to sorcerers of other races with they're able to do (one of them even says it when facing down Ultramarines chief librarian Tigurius)
Before you marry a sheep Please make a video what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult in order to defeat the chaos gods
@@pessien8474 yep. Isyander and Koda have a fantastic (and very entertaining) video on the Leagues of Votann that explains all that in detail. Check them out. They just might be your new fav lore channel.
@@pessien8474 yep. True story. If you want detail, check out Isyander and Koda's video on your new favorite little Iron dudes. Fantastic video, and they might just become a new favorite lore channel for ya.
@@pessien8474 lol well then how the hell can you like 40k? 😄 don't speak so lowly of yourself. If you trained your brain into short attention, you can train it out. I got faith in ya, bro
For the imperium it is true that most of the tech is old and can't be replicated. The primaris event was not only a revival for space marines but also vehicles robotics and firearms that can be mass produced and maintained. At least for space marines.
if the leagues of Votann decided to use the Votann Ancestor Cores to manufacture STCs instead of worshipping them, they could possibly develop tech to conquer the entire galaxy. Dwarves being my favourites makes me wonder what a galaxy ruled by them would be like. Honestly, it would be pretty chill except for the blowing up planets for resources XD.
The Dark Angels have anything and everything, from the height of man to present. From the Emperor to Mars. And the best of the lot?.. Plot armour. They need that tech? "Oh, that's in a box at the back of the garage, I'll just grab it for you."
I think you might be selling the Craftworld Eldar short a bit here. It is a good observation that the Dark Eldar have the better tech but can't always use it, while the Craftworld Eldar could use it if they had it but don't have a lot of it. However, I think it is worth noting that the Craftworld Eldar essentially have the best aspects of the Tau and the Imperium in this respect - their worst is at least as good as the Tau, while the few pieces they DO still have from their peak are at least as good as Dark Age of Technology stuff. Meanwhile, while the Webway was originally created by the Old Ones, the Eldar do still understand how it works and how to maintain and grow it, it's just that they don't have the resources to maintain the whole network when things like breaches by demons can occur, so some of that maintenance ends up being in the form of pruning branches that have just become too dangerous, but they are also presented in at least some sources as having some ability to form new branches. It may be inherited technology rather than something they created from scratch themselves, but it's inherited technology they've mastered and therefore still part of their tech base. If the Imperium was a range of 1-10 (although I'd argue that any army with a codex rates at least a 3, since there are armies in 40K who's baseline tech level seems to be below even the basic Guard) and the Tau a solid 7, I think it'd be reasonable to consider the Craftworld Eldar to be 7-10 on that scale.
I’d say the tau have the best chance to catch up and surpass other races currently in the setting, they don’t have the same dogmatic view of technology like the imperium. They trade with the Votan, so they could probably work their way to getting advanced ai. Could negotiate with the eldar and trade for tech.
I think a video compare each races magic would be great, because it races has different advantages and disadvantages like the imperium is safer. But chaos if more powerful.
I think defining technology so as to exclude everything warp or psyker related skews this very hard. For example, the craftworld eldar, as well as a base level of technology that is being seriously underestimated here (better than the Imperium in almost every respect save a few relics from tje dark age, and superior to the Tau in many respects as well), almost certainly have the most advanced psychic tech, including psychic weapons capable of destroying worlds. Lastly,.the Golden Throne isnt just a relic from the dark age of technology,.it incorporates significant amounts of xenos tech and isnt a purely human creation.
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides?
What would be a cool story for 40k is if a planet full of archeotech and stc's was actually discovered by Indomitus inc those super advanced space ships. But all the other races seeing the threat it posed teamed up to smack down the Imperium. It would work because nothing in the setting would actually change and everyone would go back to normal. But it would be epic af.
Necrons would be top tier with ease, but if we're looking for the next in line - it has to be the (not playable) Dark Mechanicum. They have all the benefits of the Mechanicus except without any reservation on using xenos tech, AI or the Warp itself as part of their processes. Give enough Necron stuff to them, and with enough time, we'll have something very scary indeed.
The standard necron weapon disintegrates whatever matter it hits. They carry pocket dimensions filled with eldritch horrors on their hips. They have ftl transportation that's separate from the warp. And this is touching the truly crazy things they have like the orrery which can effortlessly destroy solar systems. The necrons were created to kill star gods of course they're super OP.
I think the Tau example was a bit unfair, as while the Imperium does have really cool shit, Each and every Tau faction has reliably better tech then 80-90% of what the Imperium would like to throw at it
Not at all unfair- He gave them an overall above-average mark across the board, while pointing out they don’t have access to the more crazy stuff like time manipulation
The Necrons still supersede the DAoT humans, by a pretty considerable margin but most of that absolutely terrifying reality-shattering technology is still in stasis and/or was destroyed. That being said, the humans during the DAoT would still be an insanely dangerous threat. Even the Eldar, despite having a tech advantage, did not want an outright war with them. The destruction would have been unimaginable. I don't believe that if the necrons had been awake they'd have wanted to fight either, the destruction that would have resulted would have crippled both empires.
Pretty sure yeah. Nanoswarms eating u from the inside out with you not even knowing what kills you was one of their standard Military equipment. They got blackholebomb-Level stuff. Pretty sure they would stomp.
Necrons are still the wild card. Humanity would curb stomp all the other races with dark age tech, but the necrons could just blow up all of our planetary systems as a big middle finger to humanity.
I don't think they would. Remember that despite how amazing their tech was, they still managed to defeat the man of iron (that were their whole automated army). This tell us that their military might coudn't be that much of a threat to other races at their peak. During the dark age of tecnology they had some crazy shit but they also had a much less hostile galaxy (compared to the current setting and totally in easy mode compared to the war in heaven).
We wouldn't win but we would have a chance. Let's make the comparison of technology at its highest points between the Necrons and humanity with tanks: The Necrons would be a King Tiger while humanity would be a Sherman, so we could win if we shot them from behind and at close range.
At 3:07 when he mentions "weapon to snipe ships out of the warp, and targeting systems that can send bullets back in time" which specific tech is he referencing here?
3:00 I would argue that the Tau are more of a 4 or 5 on the tech ladder since as you mentioned they can't even control warp travel at a reliable pace. A 10 would be necrons who have the "I do what I want" machines.
1.They have no reliable warp travel because of their lack of psykers. Their first attempt to use real warp travel was a disaster, but at this time they can travel the Startide-Nexus without problem. Mankind would not have warp travel without them having navigators. 2. Ghostkeel-battlesuit 3. Supremacy-battlesuit 4. Ability to mass-produce railguns
Can't remember the book, but it went something like: Trazyn: What are you doing? Tech 1: Just making a cloak out of time Trazyn: and you? Tech 2: I am making one out of the warp Trazyn: Noice!
Tyranids are a strange case as they are technically at the same time biomechanical, a "super computer" made of said biomechanical constructs on a quite possible multi-galactic scale with instant FTL thought communication/data processing. The "tech" and organics are so intertwined that its hard to even say where on thing begins and one thing ends. BUT: in older lore (which have not been retconned) they did use much more "primitive" tech for ships and bioforms in the curious case of the Zoats. So seeing as how they have had access to and used what amounts to "cruder" and more mechanical tech, including cybernetics that merged with far more advanced organic tech - its possible they have access to a wide range of tech but we only get to see the mostly organic-looking biomechanical tech which comprises the absolute bulk of their so far observed hive fleets. It should also be noted that the Tyranids are capable of both warp and reality manipulation as well as ultra-advanced matter-manipulation. How they do stuff like FTL travel, matter-rearangement to create bioforms and instant-FTL-thought transmission is a matter of speculation as none of the lore explains it in any detail. How do a Narhval warp real space using gravitic manipulation while NOT being a big fat warp beacon? Its not known. But they can devastate worlds from insane distances just by locking on and moving their fleets there. So they are a wild card in this regard.
Imperium Tech Moments be like; Ur has a sharpened stick... with a black hole generator at the end. Day 563 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you
necron tech especially seems like magic when you realize they literally have to do rituals and hand motions to work it. Also really feels like the Leagues should have MORE advanced tech if they had access to STC's for 10,000 years of being left the fuck alone, you'd think they'd have advanced in that time a lot.
I definitely gave it to the Necron at the start. Honestly it was a bit of a split between them and the leagues of both time, but overall it's definitely going to be the necron since nothing about them is organic or psychic based, like how one of the major issues with humanity is the fact that everything is basically based on servitors in anything from basic door controls to computers to escape pods on a ship. And as smart as people could probably be with technology shove the door our brains, that does not make us as powerful as actual supercomputers. Literally just tech. Even as advanced as it is with the Eldar with their wraith-bone technology, if you have to be psychic to use it that's a bit of a left-down.
Necrons, followed by golden age/dark age humanity, followed by elder, followed by tau, followed by current humanity, followed by a steep drop to the orcs. There is an argument that dark age humanity might be on par or better in some areas than the necrons.
It’s either the nercrons or old ones because the necrons let a weapon that can destroy solar system stay and not get destroyed and the old ones made the Kroks and the elder
The one that i would add to the statement at the end. Mechanicus used DAoT to match necrons, true... but they matched CURRENT Necrons with that tech. Imagine what would Necrons done if they were still during their prime.
As anyone who has eyed the one Fallen Empire in Stellaris as a huge menace can tell you, the Necrons are so far ahead of everyone else. Except for Biological technology which the Nids are bar none the best at. Put it this way, the Nids could probably make hundreds of thousands of Custodes level gene crafted master pieces. It just dont because thats a waste of resources. And when the hi e finally did it made the Norn Emissary which cam body even the Bannana Boys.
So the Necrons can time travel… I just like to imagine every time GW retcons something it’s actually because a bunch of Necrons went back in time and changed it. Mainly because that also means they can say “GET NECRONED!!!”
I really think Craft World eldars have been seriously understimated in this video. Even if they are a shadow of their former empire they still have the best standars of live, their craftmanship is way superior of anything the empire can produce and still have access to some crazy tech like D-weapons.
How different do you think the setting would be, and what would be different if slaanesh's birth had been stopped, or they had been killed immediately after being born?
A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions ,this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces.. this would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the succes of the heresy.
I could definitely see a future where the necrons could become close allies with the imperium. The emperor told nurgle that the matirium will strike back. Tthe necrons ARE the immaterium in so many ways. The emperor might even offer them a way back from the biological and to reclaim their souls.
Tl;dr: Necrons, also humanity back when we still used ai for everything, both could terraform in an instant and break the universe so much it leaves scars in the laws of physic at some locations.
I think its useful to split this question up a bit. for example, the Dark eldar seems extremly advanced when it comes to biology, but not so much when it comes to material science(making new alloys or materials with spesific properties you want, for example a Titanium crystal that is heat resistant to a certain point and trasparent to spesific wavelengths.(just a random example for demonstrational purposes.)), likewhise the Necrons seem extremly advanced in the fields of material science, and just a general understanding of physics, like there wouldnt be a single particle in existance they didnt know about and understand at a deep level.
Their problem is they can't control that part of eldar tech. In the old eldar empire everything was made of wraithbone and other psy plasctic that had the properties that the bonesinger wanted. They didn't need alloy science because they can generate their own magic alloys ex nihilo. For the eldars going back to materials science and forging is a step back.
good time to put out this vid, i just finished reading Only In Death and in that, Shoggy Domor, a timber hauler apparently knew WTF a dark age Cold Fusion Generator was. like WHAT. and wouldnt the Mechanicus go apeshit finging out something like that exsists? it really seemed out of left field.
Space Marines do, because GW that's why. Despite apparently being less advanced than almost every other faction, they just keep winning because of that juicy plot armor.
While I would argue the Necron; random theory the Orks can by virtue of their psychic ability make anything work they could by virtue of believing it have the most advanced technology.
Every faction is 40k is either a kardashev 2 civilization or very close to it, the imperium and necrons got closest to kardashev 3, with both retaining a lot of the technology from that scale. However, base tech level necrons outclass everyone, and most of their most advanced stuff outclasses everyone but the imperium. Dark age of technology imperium of man most likely was the only kardashev 3 civilization in the setting, and they do still have tech from that era but not much of it, so their highest end tech is equal to or better than necron tech. You could argue for either imperium or necrons having the top spot but on average currently its the necrons.
What I like about the Tau here is that their tech is *pragmatic*. They don't feel a need to develop weapons that go back in time. They don't need bullshit discs that are just 1 atom thick. 10 atoms will do just fine. At least, that's how they used to operate. But then GW realized how much more money they could make by making the robots unreasonably larger for no good reason.
Necrons, next question
Tyranids you nid kinda mid
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T’ua. Next answer.
Orks. Next question
Genuinely yeah. This could have been a ten second video lol.
Fulgrim goon cave is the biggest technological advancement since the golden throne
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fulgrim defo has a tek cave
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This, is why Chaos needs to purged kids.
I feel like I didn't really need an 11 minute video to tell me the race of robots made of self repairing metal firing disintegration beams from their eyes that use avatars of the fundamental laws of the universe as *batteries* for their naughty toys are the best in terms of tech... lol
Got to wonder just where they rank against human during the golden/dark arge of tech though.
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@@TheAnon03 Dark Age tech isn't near the Necrons. What is holding the Necrons back as a whole is their constant fighting amongst themselves. But during the War in Heaven the Necrons were united under 1 ruler. DAOT humans were NEVER united its one of the reasons the men of iron rebelling was so devastating. DAOT humans used fusion drives and warp based FTL both of which Necrons consider barbaric and far less advanced. In the twice dead king its stated the Necrons moved to inertialess engines before the war in heaven and C'tan. Necrons were able to shatter material universe gods and use them a batteries. The Emperor of mankind the strongest human to ever exist only fought a shard of a C'tan and it was one of the hardest fights he ever had.
Necrons use multiple dimensions to transport their troops through, contain massive amounts of items, and trap star gods in. DAOT could only access 2 dimensions the material universe and the immaterium. Necrons have a WMD that deletes solar systems from existing. DAOT never had anything even remotely close to that.
I think the Dark age of technology was closer to the Necrons than you might think, I mean they had time travel and some of the weapons used in the war against the Men of Iron ate timespace itself.
@@TheAnon03 Necrons weave time and space like it's clay. Orikan the diviner is so good at it other Necrons don't even notice. Unless your name is Trazyn.
The most advanced DAOT tech we have seen. Is from an ark mechanicus. It shot a blackhole and reversed time so the eldar got sucked into it.
Necrons pause time think about what they want to do then unpause time and do it. Or they leave reality itself and just move inbetween planes of existence. DAOT only ever had access to the warp. Necrons have access to like 5 different dimensions we know of. They do that as casually as the imperium turns a person into a slave.
Was DAOT advanced yes. We're they close to the Necrons no not even remotely.
It's crazy that Belisarius Cawl made a lot of new technology while completing the Primaris Marine Project without somehow tipping off the Adeptus Administratum, Mechanicus and the Inquisition for 10,000 years until Roboute Guilliman woke up.
Well, he does have a giant spaceship that is entirely his and probably got a whole bunch of resources from the dudes he combined into himself. Plus the Emperor basically laid the groundwork for this, and Guilliman gave him the resources to complete it, so he probably just had all the necessary material moved to his Ark Mechanicus and went from there.
Plot armor is unbeatable.
Well you already stated why he was able to do that: Gorillaman was involved. So Cawl can pretty much ignore all the established lore and do whatever the writers want because he's under his codex compliant dome of bs ultra plot armor.
@@NANA-lq5mdThe Emperor is the best plot armor. Just ask Ciaphus, Ciaphus, Ciaphus kain HERO OF THE EMERIUM!!!
HE has no idea.
Probably why it took him 10 000 years
Necrons. Literally have a gun that can vaporize anything to the molecular level, AS A WEAPON FOR FOOT SOLDIERS
Also, you know, a star map that can just control alt delete suns from existence.
Vaporising things to the molecular level isn't really all that impressive, though? That's basically what extreme heat weapons like plasma and melta weapons are doing - heck, plasmas are usually at temperatures where the molecules themselves break apart. Gauss flayers are able to do it through a different approach than simple application of energy, but it's worth noting that the effects are slow enough that they're not actually that much better than bolters in practice. It's quite likely that the gauss flayer is something that another advanced race like the Eldar could replicate, but don't due to a doctrinal difference - the Eldar (and Tau to a lesser extent) emphasise speed, while the main strength of gauss flayers is that enough application of even the basic gauss flayer will eventually destroy anything, which fits the Necron "implacable man" approach.
The star map seems to be a one-off device so I'd consider that to be on a similar level to DAoT or pre-fall Eldar lost tech (the pre-fall Eldar at least claimed to have similar capabilities).
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@@KiwiMarines You responded to a comment on a video about the lore behind a somewhat more complicated version of chess in a science fiction setting. So right back atcha.
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Why the hell dont you include the middle of the video, some of us only come here for that now im lost and scared
Thanks i guess
Dam funny, i couldn’t tell how how long the video was
What's your favorite part? That's the most important timestamp
Legend
Its obviously the orks imagine slapping random junks together and having it shoot shit thats a nobel prize winning discovery
Need to improve the fire rate?
Paint it Red
How is that not amazing?
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Purple missile = the stealthiest explosion.
@@yamahadrag69now imagine that but if they were smart. Idk how the necrons won tbh
More like they are the most ingeious race, good crafts people
Necron technology, who knows what other war crimes They've been making during the war in heaven
The stuff we've seen so far is mostly mid-tier necron tech. Only the Celestial Orrery is an example of their best work. Even the Aeonic Orb, a weapon that is literally a Sun inside of a Pokeball that has been weaponized and when broken RELEASES AN ENTIRE SUN into a solar system causing unimaginable destruction is mid compared to the absolutely incomprehensible shit they deployed during the War in Heaven. Their terrifying spaceships are like luxury cruse liners. When the Necrons finally awaken their appallingly dangerous stuff the universe will absolutely know about it.
They managed to fight essentially warp gods, the eldari at that time were essentially all just emperors of mankind level of phyker and smart orks at the same time and basically win.
the necron makes the geneva code looks like a diplomatic treaty
A video on if magnus took the emperors replacement legion would be dope, it's been like 3ish months of me asking and despite missing last video I shall continue until it is done
Hope you get a video on this man
The crusade continue onwards
Grey Knights is what the replacement Legion for Magnus.
This is a great idea actually, as it would change both his and Vulkans role in the Siege of Terra, and it would be interesting to learn about what those new roles would be
"Wtf am I even saying right now" The Rule of Cool I think.
Majorkill -
"Who has the best t-"
Me -
"NECRONS"
Don't forget that the Dark Angels have a retcon gun. I'm not kidding, they have a gun that not only erases a target, but removes them from history books, memories, even the Warp.
You know that picture of the Dark Eldar fighting those Necrons raises the question of why? Like it has to be either a mistake or some Dark Eldar having a weird moment of ancestral hatred because they'd get nothing from doing that.
A lot of cron worlds are found on other races worlds. D-eldar come out for supplies and get caught in a cross fire. Same they both use the web ways and come into conflict with each other over this space.
Was one instance where there was a raid on an imperial frontier planet. Once the DE landed the Necrons ambushed them and didn’t bother killing humans as they waited for the Dark Eldar.
@@stripeybag6977 just been reading the infinite and the Devine and one small part as orikan fighting his way out of the web way lol.
Something you forgot to add about the Necrons and Tau they are the most willing to adapt and upgrade their technology so they might even make more advanced stuff in the future.
Exactly, the tech persists are stuck finding stuff that humanity has already done and lost knowledge of. If the golden age humans had nothing that can compare to the Necrons, there's no competition. They won't adapt and make new stuff, the only one that can and will is seen as a heretic lol. He has been working with that one Necron that wants to steal everything sooo there's a small chance
It's honestly pretty mind blowing when you realize that Craftworld Eldar are basically the Amish of the Eldar.
Exodites: 😐
@@Alex-dr2lp Oh yeah forgot about them. I was mostly referring to the level of tech when compared to Dark Eldar.
well to be fair that was more intentional than anything else since basically in the development of crafwords they realized that they needed to do something for themselves and not have a life that was too easy in order to not get bored and fall back into the vision cycle of his race so they lowered 2 rayitaa to his technology at that time
@@Alex-dr2lpWouldn't exodutes be caveman
They aren't, that was the exodites
Ah, yes, technology. Get the toaster.
I will fetch the holy oils.
@@winterknight4307 Don't forget the sacred rags and holy text!
Shoot the toaster, it can't be trusted.
Dark Age Tech is insane in so many degrees. But the Necrons having that map that can destroy solar systems is next level insane.
Necrons done
Orks' Technology: Make sum new stuff made out of box of scraps and then believe it hard enuff to make them work!
I'm a tank, I'm a tank, I'm a tank.
Mayorkill Dyslexia Monday isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Mayorkill Dyslexia Monday:
8:00 Leagues of Votann aka the Squats who are Space Dwarfs and they're on the *short* end of the stick in Warhammer 40k.
Necron tech is leagues ahead of everyone
i think there has to be a few very specific instances where some of the other races might have better tech than the others, but the necrons do things that seem like magic, being characterizing and having similar descriptions to sorcerers of other races with they're able to do (one of them even says it when facing down Ultramarines chief librarian Tigurius)
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To be more accurate, the leagues of Votann have Votanns. The machines that make STCs. Which would be WILD if the Empire got a hold of them.
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For the imperium it is true that most of the tech is old and can't be replicated. The primaris event was not only a revival for space marines but also vehicles robotics and firearms that can be mass produced and maintained. At least for space marines.
It's crazy that the Imperium has tech that can match the Necrons. This kind of changes the whole DAoT power scale for the Imperium.
Necron, they enslaved warp gods with their Tech.
if the leagues of Votann decided to use the Votann Ancestor Cores to manufacture STCs instead of worshipping them, they could possibly develop tech to conquer the entire galaxy. Dwarves being my favourites makes me wonder what a galaxy ruled by them would be like. Honestly, it would be pretty chill except for the blowing up planets for resources XD.
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Asking Majorkill to cover to Battle of Cadia in the same format he covered the Siege of Vraks !
The cool thing about the fire heart isn't that it can destroy planets - it's that it can create a planet from scratch.
Two video requests:
The beginning of the imperial cult
Human FTL travel before the emperor sat on the golden throne
The Dark Angels have anything and everything, from the height of man to present. From the Emperor to Mars. And the best of the lot?.. Plot armour. They need that tech? "Oh, that's in a box at the back of the garage, I'll just grab it for you."
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I think you might be selling the Craftworld Eldar short a bit here. It is a good observation that the Dark Eldar have the better tech but can't always use it, while the Craftworld Eldar could use it if they had it but don't have a lot of it. However, I think it is worth noting that the Craftworld Eldar essentially have the best aspects of the Tau and the Imperium in this respect - their worst is at least as good as the Tau, while the few pieces they DO still have from their peak are at least as good as Dark Age of Technology stuff. Meanwhile, while the Webway was originally created by the Old Ones, the Eldar do still understand how it works and how to maintain and grow it, it's just that they don't have the resources to maintain the whole network when things like breaches by demons can occur, so some of that maintenance ends up being in the form of pruning branches that have just become too dangerous, but they are also presented in at least some sources as having some ability to form new branches. It may be inherited technology rather than something they created from scratch themselves, but it's inherited technology they've mastered and therefore still part of their tech base.
If the Imperium was a range of 1-10 (although I'd argue that any army with a codex rates at least a 3, since there are armies in 40K who's baseline tech level seems to be below even the basic Guard) and the Tau a solid 7, I think it'd be reasonable to consider the Craftworld Eldar to be 7-10 on that scale.
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Mankind, everything else is heresy
Also, a video of the military forces of the mechanicum/dark mechanicum/and Mechanicus would be cool
I’d say the tau have the best chance to catch up and surpass other races currently in the setting, they don’t have the same dogmatic view of technology like the imperium. They trade with the Votan, so they could probably work their way to getting advanced ai. Could negotiate with the eldar and trade for tech.
when the necron bedside alarm finally rings, the milky way galaxy is fucked so hard u can't imagine
I think a video compare each races magic would be great, because it races has different advantages and disadvantages like the imperium is safer. But chaos if more powerful.
A video on of the Pharos device didn't explode in the Battle of Sotha would be pretty neat.
I think defining technology so as to exclude everything warp or psyker related skews this very hard. For example, the craftworld eldar, as well as a base level of technology that is being seriously underestimated here (better than the Imperium in almost every respect save a few relics from tje dark age, and superior to the Tau in many respects as well), almost certainly have the most advanced psychic tech, including psychic weapons capable of destroying worlds. Lastly,.the Golden Throne isnt just a relic from the dark age of technology,.it incorporates significant amounts of xenos tech and isnt a purely human creation.
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides?
remember when the Orks had plasma weaponry that could one shot a Space Marine, during the Ullanor Crusade?
that was spicy stuff.
What would be a cool story for 40k is if a planet full of archeotech and stc's was actually discovered by Indomitus inc those super advanced space ships. But all the other races seeing the threat it posed teamed up to smack down the Imperium. It would work because nothing in the setting would actually change and everyone would go back to normal. But it would be epic af.
A outsider major mini would be pretty cool ngl
I'll give you props for fleshing out the comparison and debate to more than Necrons, duh! But...at the same time...Necrons, duh!
Day 44: What if Omegon returned to the setting?. What would happen, how would Guilliman and The Lion react?. Would be a pretty cool video idea.
Necrons would be top tier with ease, but if we're looking for the next in line - it has to be the (not playable) Dark Mechanicum. They have all the benefits of the Mechanicus except without any reservation on using xenos tech, AI or the Warp itself as part of their processes.
Give enough Necron stuff to them, and with enough time, we'll have something very scary indeed.
The standard necron weapon disintegrates whatever matter it hits. They carry pocket dimensions filled with eldritch horrors on their hips. They have ftl transportation that's separate from the warp. And this is touching the truly crazy things they have like the orrery which can effortlessly destroy solar systems. The necrons were created to kill star gods of course they're super OP.
I think the Tau example was a bit unfair, as while the Imperium does have really cool shit, Each and every Tau faction has reliably better tech then 80-90% of what the Imperium would like to throw at it
Not at all unfair- He gave them an overall above-average mark across the board, while pointing out they don’t have access to the more crazy stuff like time manipulation
How would Humanity from the peak of the Dark Age of Technology do in the current setting?
Would they curbstomp any threats?
The Necrons still supersede the DAoT humans, by a pretty considerable margin but most of that absolutely terrifying reality-shattering technology is still in stasis and/or was destroyed. That being said, the humans during the DAoT would still be an insanely dangerous threat. Even the Eldar, despite having a tech advantage, did not want an outright war with them. The destruction would have been unimaginable. I don't believe that if the necrons had been awake they'd have wanted to fight either, the destruction that would have resulted would have crippled both empires.
Pretty sure yeah. Nanoswarms eating u from the inside out with you not even knowing what kills you was one of their standard Military equipment. They got blackholebomb-Level stuff. Pretty sure they would stomp.
Necrons are still the wild card. Humanity would curb stomp all the other races with dark age tech, but the necrons could just blow up all of our planetary systems as a big middle finger to humanity.
I don't think they would. Remember that despite how amazing their tech was, they still managed to defeat the man of iron (that were their whole automated army). This tell us that their military might coudn't be that much of a threat to other races at their peak. During the dark age of tecnology they had some crazy shit but they also had a much less hostile galaxy (compared to the current setting and totally in easy mode compared to the war in heaven).
We wouldn't win but we would have a chance. Let's make the comparison of technology at its highest points between the Necrons and humanity with tanks: The Necrons would be a King Tiger while humanity would be a Sherman, so we could win if we shot them from behind and at close range.
At 3:07 when he mentions "weapon to snipe ships out of the warp, and targeting systems that can send bullets back in time" which specific tech is he referencing here?
3:00 I would argue that the Tau are more of a 4 or 5 on the tech ladder since as you mentioned they can't even control warp travel at a reliable pace. A 10 would be necrons who have the "I do what I want" machines.
1.They have no reliable warp travel because of their lack of psykers. Their first attempt to use real warp travel was a disaster, but at this time they can travel the Startide-Nexus without problem. Mankind would not have warp travel without them having navigators.
2. Ghostkeel-battlesuit
3. Supremacy-battlesuit
4. Ability to mass-produce railguns
That bell that our favorite Necron clepto tossed into the webway
Day 90 of asking for a dedicated series of videos detailing in depth the Lion El'Heresy
It seems every factionnat times has things that are "unimaginable" to others.
Potential-wise orks are the craziest with their technology. If you get enough of them in one place, that is
Ight before I watch ima say
1. Necrons
2. Tau
3. Eldar
4. Leagues of votan
5. Mechanicus
6. Imperium
7. Orks
8. Tyranids
Thats the most high tech sweater I have seen
Can't remember the book, but it went something like:
Trazyn: What are you doing?
Tech 1: Just making a cloak out of time
Trazyn: and you?
Tech 2: I am making one out of the warp
Trazyn: Noice!
A comparison between the tech of the Necrons and the Golden Age of humanity would be cool
Tyranids are kinda the tech themselves, since they are most likely effects of bio enginering. And oh boy, they are some ADVANCED tech
Tyranids are a strange case as they are technically at the same time biomechanical, a "super computer" made of said biomechanical constructs on a quite possible multi-galactic scale with instant FTL thought communication/data processing. The "tech" and organics are so intertwined that its hard to even say where on thing begins and one thing ends.
BUT: in older lore (which have not been retconned) they did use much more "primitive" tech for ships and bioforms in the curious case of the Zoats. So seeing as how they have had access to and used what amounts to "cruder" and more mechanical tech, including cybernetics that merged with far more advanced organic tech - its possible they have access to a wide range of tech but we only get to see the mostly organic-looking biomechanical tech which comprises the absolute bulk of their so far observed hive fleets.
It should also be noted that the Tyranids are capable of both warp and reality manipulation as well as ultra-advanced matter-manipulation. How they do stuff like FTL travel, matter-rearangement to create bioforms and instant-FTL-thought transmission is a matter of speculation as none of the lore explains it in any detail. How do a Narhval warp real space using gravitic manipulation while NOT being a big fat warp beacon? Its not known. But they can devastate worlds from insane distances just by locking on and moving their fleets there.
So they are a wild card in this regard.
Imperium Tech Moments be like; Ur has a sharpened stick... with a black hole generator at the end.
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Please make a video about Tau Navy and their battles. The Exodite show got me interested in it.
necron tech especially seems like magic when you realize they literally have to do rituals and hand motions to work it. Also really feels like the Leagues should have MORE advanced tech if they had access to STC's for 10,000 years of being left the fuck alone, you'd think they'd have advanced in that time a lot.
If the tau were around as long as any of the other races, i could easily see them blowing the imperium and Necrons out of the water.
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The Orks, handsdown, especially in the field of recycling used of materials😅
I definitely gave it to the Necron at the start. Honestly it was a bit of a split between them and the leagues of both time, but overall it's definitely going to be the necron since nothing about them is organic or psychic based, like how one of the major issues with humanity is the fact that everything is basically based on servitors in anything from basic door controls to computers to escape pods on a ship. And as smart as people could probably be with technology shove the door our brains, that does not make us as powerful as actual supercomputers. Literally just tech. Even as advanced as it is with the Eldar with their wraith-bone technology, if you have to be psychic to use it that's a bit of a left-down.
Necrons, followed by golden age/dark age humanity, followed by elder, followed by tau, followed by current humanity, followed by a steep drop to the orcs. There is an argument that dark age humanity might be on par or better in some areas than the necrons.
It’s either the nercrons or old ones because the necrons let a weapon that can destroy solar system stay and not get destroyed and the old ones made the Kroks and the elder
The one that i would add to the statement at the end. Mechanicus used DAoT to match necrons, true... but they matched CURRENT Necrons with that tech. Imagine what would Necrons done if they were still during their prime.
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Necrons. Thanks for watching.
Well Necrons are so technologically advanced that most of it looks like magic to the naked eye, I think that answers the question
Should do a video on whether each primarch eats tushy or not.
As anyone who has eyed the one Fallen Empire in Stellaris as a huge menace can tell you, the Necrons are so far ahead of everyone else. Except for Biological technology which the Nids are bar none the best at. Put it this way, the Nids could probably make hundreds of thousands of Custodes level gene crafted master pieces. It just dont because thats a waste of resources. And when the hi e finally did it made the Norn Emissary which cam body even the Bannana Boys.
So the Necrons can time travel… I just like to imagine every time GW retcons something it’s actually because a bunch of Necrons went back in time and changed it. Mainly because that also means they can say “GET NECRONED!!!”
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
I really think Craft World eldars have been seriously understimated in this video. Even if they are a shadow of their former empire they still have the best standars of live, their craftmanship is way superior of anything the empire can produce and still have access to some crazy tech like D-weapons.
How different do you think the setting would be, and what would be different if slaanesh's birth had been stopped, or they had been killed immediately after being born?
A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions ,this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces.. this would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the succes of the heresy.
I could definitely see a future where the necrons could become close allies with the imperium. The emperor told nurgle that the matirium will strike back. Tthe necrons ARE the immaterium in so many ways. The emperor might even offer them a way back from the biological and to reclaim their souls.
Dark Age of Technology era mankind, next question
Tl;dr: Necrons, also humanity back when we still used ai for everything, both could terraform in an instant and break the universe so much it leaves scars in the laws of physic at some locations.
I'd say Necrons with The Leagues as a distant second.
Humans, Orks and Eldars have technology...
Technology has Necrons.
I think its useful to split this question up a bit. for example, the Dark eldar seems extremly advanced when it comes to biology, but not so much when it comes to material science(making new alloys or materials with spesific properties you want, for example a Titanium crystal that is heat resistant to a certain point and trasparent to spesific wavelengths.(just a random example for demonstrational purposes.)), likewhise the Necrons seem extremly advanced in the fields of material science, and just a general understanding of physics, like there wouldnt be a single particle in existance they didnt know about and understand at a deep level.
Their problem is they can't control that part of eldar tech. In the old eldar empire everything was made of wraithbone and other psy plasctic that had the properties that the bonesinger wanted. They didn't need alloy science because they can generate their own magic alloys ex nihilo. For the eldars going back to materials science and forging is a step back.
good time to put out this vid, i just finished reading Only In Death and in that, Shoggy Domor, a timber hauler apparently knew WTF a dark age Cold Fusion Generator was. like WHAT. and wouldnt the Mechanicus go apeshit finging out something like that exsists? it really seemed out of left field.
Wait a second, fix the golden throne? I think I need a further elaboration on this, please!
Space Marines do, because GW that's why. Despite apparently being less advanced than almost every other faction, they just keep winning because of that juicy plot armor.
While I would argue the Necron; random theory the Orks can by virtue of their psychic ability make anything work they could by virtue of believing it have the most advanced technology.
yea the necrons can do more than just move starts like the dark eldar. than can create new ones, or destroy them with a button press.
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Necron tech doesn't obey "40k laws of physics", it basically does whatever the author needs it to do in the particular situation.
Every faction is 40k is either a kardashev 2 civilization or very close to it, the imperium and necrons got closest to kardashev 3, with both retaining a lot of the technology from that scale. However, base tech level necrons outclass everyone, and most of their most advanced stuff outclasses everyone but the imperium. Dark age of technology imperium of man most likely was the only kardashev 3 civilization in the setting, and they do still have tech from that era but not much of it, so their highest end tech is equal to or better than necron tech. You could argue for either imperium or necrons having the top spot but on average currently its the necrons.
What I like about the Tau here is that their tech is *pragmatic*. They don't feel a need to develop weapons that go back in time. They don't need bullshit discs that are just 1 atom thick. 10 atoms will do just fine.
At least, that's how they used to operate. But then GW realized how much more money they could make by making the robots unreasonably larger for no good reason.
I just got to the Necrons section in the video... I am guessing he is going to say the Orks have the best tech.