Josh Pate On Quinn Ewers & Arch Manning - Texas Spring Intel (Late Kick Cut)
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- Texas and Steve Sarkisian have done such a good job recruiting they have two QBs on campus who were each rated the #1 overall player in their respective cycles, and on Late Kick Live Ep 368 Josh Pate discussed Quinn Ewers and Arch Manning fighting for the starting job in Austin. While it is widely assumed Quinn Ewers will ultimately hold onto the QB1 role, does this mean there is no competition in practice and within the program? What do you expect from the Texas Longhorns this season? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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If you're Cooper Manning don't you want him to sit a year to get in the weight room and learn Sark's offense. Basically no matter what he does in college every NFL scout is going to give him a shot
🤷🏽♂️ Sark might need you to save his job by midseason if they play badly without you. Then remember if he hangs on in spite of play below expectations, your first meaningful starts are in SEC games with a team that might be shocked by consistent physicality of the SEC. Now without the conference switch and a coach that could be on the hot seat, your thinking is very logical.
There isn’t a qb battle this is all manufactured it’s been 3 practices.
@David Webb that was quite comical mentioning 7-6 the last decade as the perennial top recruiting program in the big 12 or at, worst the third best doesn’t help your point. The likes of Vandy, Kentucky and Missouri won’t be on your schedule every year. Arkansas probably will but they might get their house in order soon. A&M recruiting has been on par with y’all for years. OU is always a tough game. So season above 0.500 in conference isn’t a given. If you think the SEC schedule won’t be consistently tougher than the Big 12 schedule y’all played you’ve got burnt orange shades on.
I mean the family has come out and said to a couple people that they WANT Arch to sit.
@@mjbset93 at this point, the SEC plays more spread than the big 12.
Sure the SEC has 2 really well stocked cupboards.
But this OL and this DL aren't what you saw 2 years ago against Arkansas.
Sark and Flood put up one of the best offenses with the best line at Bama...leave...then Bama starts to falter in both of those regards and Bama fans are happy to tell you they want Sark back. Meanwhile Texas pulls the best line class in the nation.
Coincidence?
Or do you think Sark and Flood might have a plan? 🤣
As a texas fan, just wanted to throw some love for Maalik Murphy.
We love him too!
He needs to transfer its a danm shame. He's never going to get a chance and hes probably the best of the 3 He's the most athletic.
@@filthy0819 the obvious chance you're referring to may not happen. But injuries do happen. It's not that far fetched. If UT can win games big, he can also get time.
I think he's a great talent!
@@fadedlobo I think he's talented too, but so far, I haven't seen more than the fact that he came in unpolished, and needs to improve. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him get his shot to show his current value, but so far, I haven't seen it.
@Filthy Animal You obviously never watched Murphy play he is really not athletic he is a traditional pocket passing QB
He’s still injured.
It's not a battle. It's Quinn's job.
That’s what Ohio state fans said too
Texas literally said it’s between Quinn and arch this spring lmao shut your mouth kid
@David Webb dont forget Steqavious
Quinn’s job to lose
Why is Ewers even there, what happened with OSU? Mentality is everything for a winning QB, what's his? Personally I think Arch is a smarter, better player. The only thing that Arch lacks is his body's size and he'll have that this summer.
😆😆😆😆😆😆they got food week 1 !!!!! The analogy lol !!!!! Keep it going Mr. Josh
I heard the phrase "Big Humans" used when describing Texas O line and D line. Gives me the happy's.🤟
It’s amazing that Sark is given so much considering that he was drunk on the sidelines a few years ago.
I personally am in the boat the Quinn will start over Arch, but as you said it is going to be a long hard battle for that starting spot. As a Texas fan very excited to see how all of this plays out
Texas does not need a 1st year starter again
@David Webb it's been 2 years. Before that we had Ehlinger. Remember?
Please sit a year Arch .....Quinn isn't a bad QB he was an injury away from beating Bama if he was able to stay in the game ....Your time is coming don't rush to fail big guy because the world wants that ...Get developed and learn more about the system you will be great 🙏🏽
EXACTLY! Sometimes those calling your name are the people who want to see you fail. This is not a video game. Be patient Arch. Time to step up Quinn.
Losing Neyor played a big factor last season. Ewers is legit
You need to go back and watch how many games Ewers started out hot and ended the game flat...
@@simplerick256 You mean the freshman? 🤦♂️
@@Mark-db8id what other season did he play??? Lol
He goes, "Arch Manning, which youve heard very little about "😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Texas plays food in week one" I love it when he says that.
Competition makes everything better, until the best emerges, like when the best emerged with Academy Sports and Outdoors, the right stuff the right price
A smart coach will always play the player that gives the Team the best chance to win the game
The only battle is for QB2 but Arch generates headlines so I get it. He isn't going to play unless Quinn is hurt or it's a blowout. Now if he gets an opportunity to play and plays well then yea start up the hype train but right now Sark is trying to develop a backup who will be ready to play. Quinn will have a big season, Sark just needs to make sure he doesn't get complacent
Donors paid a lot of for Mannings to show up in Austin
@@JJ-zr6fu whatever narrative you wanna roll with is good with me. Making up stories usually makes people feel better so have at it
Is this the same quinn that was a turnover machine last season with piss poor decision making
i can see Texas going the way Tennessee went with Pruitt, recruits good then under preforms drastically... i wouldn't wish that on anyone as a true UT fan.
We already did that with Herman. It's changing though. Better position coaches.
Texas been doin that for awile
Texas hasn't been truly two deep at QB since Simms & Applewhite until this year. Quinn, admittedly, let his mechanics slip a when he came back from injury last year. If he fixes that, there should be a big jump in passing game production. If he doesn't, Arch is there to take over. We haven't seen him play at this level, but his strengths are football IQ and accuracy which are the two thing needed for Sark's offense to be deadly. As Josh said, the danger is Quinn not improving and still not making the switch to Arch. He already failed to make the switch two years ago with Card/Thompson.
With Simms we were only a quarterback and a half deep because Simms was not a good quarterback at all.
I'm so relieved this kid went to Texas. Already got the manning drama starting up. Kinda seems fitting to be at UT though. They are always drama.
There's always media trying to make money by fabricating drama.
We'll see how you feel in year 2 or 3. 🤣
@@firghteningtruth7173 like wise!😎
@@kale6772 Did Texas have drama this past season? NO. But there was a school in the big 12 that lost 49-0 that had a long time coach fired for dropping slurs.
The only people calling it "drama" are the butthurt fans mad he went to Texas.
I prefer Quinn, I think he’s got a much better arm.
Ewers is a flat out better talent.
Arch Manning should be at Ole Miss...He could really be special there under coach Lane Kiffin and that is his " true" home that his grandfather and uncle built...
Man, y'all really need to talk about Malik Murphy. That dude has a cannon and is QB2.
If Manning wins the job that means Texas is in trouble offensively. Where are the stats to back up the hype? If his name had been something other than Manning we wouldn’t have heard a word about him.
Competition is about winning or losing. If the coach has a clear favorite and plans on playing him, the backup has already lost. Thats not a QB competition. Now he can compete with himself every day and hold himself to a standard of winning the day and that is competition
Quinn Ewers has a monster arm and a good head on his shoulders, it may very well be in UT's best interests to sit Arch for his freshman season and see how far Quinn can take them. Quinn could be a 1st round pick.
I’d like to see Arch manning go from playing 2A high school football to playing Bama
That would be a disaster of epic proportions, only to be matched by Texas fans' meltdown. Manning is not D1-level ready, and I don't believe the preseason practice hype.
Facts lmao arch got the talent he just needs a year to adjust to size and speed in practice and shit then next year he'll be ready
Arch is only the #2 because Murphy is injured. Once Murphy comes back Arch is #3 and redshirting.
When has maalik not been injured. He's got just as much experience as arch
@@manicdew951 During the season last year when he was playing scout team QB and making the first team defense look stupid. When has Arch that? Thank you.
@@texasrocks8428 You attend the practices?
@@cypresstrout3412 I know a player, but you don’t need to know anybody. Sark has spoken publicly about Murphy playing well on the scout team. Sark is extremely high on Maalik, and there’s good reason for it.
Murphy should get healthy and transfer. There's no path to the field for him.
The passing records of Arch's uncle's which he broke were Isidore Newman school records, I believe.
He'll break Colt McCoy's Texas records.
@@SRone45 Or he won't. For certain, it will be one or the other. It's what makes college football so special.
Colt started 4 years, no way he breaks them only starting 3 years.
Ewers is definitely going to start. He has more chemistry with the players. Arch needs to just redshirt and learn this upcoming season. Throwing young QB's into the fire can make them or break them.
The one thing that I feel is… If there is the time where Quinn Ewers is not the starting quarterback, or he is not being, played because of others ahead of him, whether it be arch or someone else… He will transfer in a heartbeat… the NIL is too lucrative not to do so…these young athletes now “expect” major $$$$$$ to play…That’s just my feelings
It's hard to imagine a better quarterback than Quinn Ewers in all of college football. That said, if he gets shafted at Texas and transfers again, it's a case of money being there for the taking and he should take it. Just because you can get something doesn't mean you should take it, but in this case, it does.
@@floyddrain7256 you are talking about the same quinn that trasfereed out of ohio state cause he was trash then transferred to texas where he had been mediocre af and somewhat of a turnover machine
@@richardgrace5043 One usually is a turnover machine when the receivers drop your passes or run the designed routes badly. By the way are you one of those oafs who makes a religion of college, and who feels any variance from the ideal version of one person, one college, four years, and those four years the best years of your life, makes a person trash? IWPFY
Yep
Arch redshirts that's the big reason why he's at texas. Im excited to see him eventually take the lead but he is redshirting, Maalik is the backup, and Quinn is the starter. I'd be more excited to see Maalik get some playing time this year rather than Arch.
I thought Arch was the #1 rated overall and a 5 star QB in the 2023 class? He went to UT because he wanted to redshirt? Wow!
@triple3miller yup. Look at all the reports leading up to his recruitment that's why he chose Texas. That's a smart play.
@@LoneStarBull_YT He had 10 million other reasons to pick Texas.
Just saying that was one of them. His development will be huge taking a redshirt year and seeing how much faster the game is at the next level.
Texas QB battle - who gives a flip!
You clicked on this video, right? - JP
It didn't "not work out" at Ohio St. That was his plan all along lol. He only wanted the NIL. He was always going to go to Texas
What about Malik Murphy?
Texas is the greatest football program of all-time. 🐮
They need to start Quinn or he's transferring again. He had a good season last year and I hate the longhorns
Ever since Arch Manning's grandfather picked up a ball, any ball, he was aways prepared mentally and physically. He was consistently quicker, and had the defenses guessing. When Cooper, Peyton and Eli came around, they were each prepared also. Why would anybody doubt the Manning dynasty, or if Arch was the real deal, just like his grandfather, father, and uncles. Don't forget Eli has a boy named Charlie.
Can't believe guys are actually pronouncing their name "Eks-zavier." Can you believe that, "Jay-josh Pee-pate?"
Hhhmmmm whicih 1 will buckle when he's thrown n2 the fire !!!!!!!!!
Texas the only team in the country that can have two top #1 QB recruits on roster and still go 6-6 every year 🤣😂😅😆
Maalik Murphy would be a heisman finalist at any other SEC team
If it's tired, why did he play in a tiny division in Louisiana? Why did he actively avoid competitive environments and camps? It's odd because most players who do something like that get punished by the scouting services and not maintained as 'perfect'. Weird, huh?
GO ARCH MANNING! ❤
This is a perfect example of folks that don’t know much about the program, trying to create drama where there isn’t any. What was Christian Jones supposed to say about Arch. Arch will not start at ALL this season and it’s mainly because his family doesn’t want him too for his freshman year
11-1 that game against TCU will haunt them.
Josh Pate is way overblowing this competition. Everything suggested Arch Manning didn't intend to start this year. The situation all along was intended for Quinn Ewers to start last year and this year and Manning to take over after that. That requires Ewers have a very good year this year and enter the draft. If that doesn't happen, everything is off plan. However, everything is going as plan right now and this is not a quarterback battle.
I didn’t overblow anything. I explained what competition actually is vs what some people think it is. - JP
To not question if a Manning is given the benefit of the doubt is silly, of course it does, how could it not?
I thought Nico,the Tennessee QB, was the No.1 in the class of 2023????
It's not a competition.
Yes, it is. I defined what I (and coaches) mean by competition in this video. - JP
Quinn looks like Joe Dirt.
Manning didn't play against the highest level of competition in high school. This fact will put him about a year behind a typical 5Star QB that played the year before college against the best competition including State playoff games. He's good, but he was a very big fish is a very small pond. The pond suddenly turns into a great lake in a few months.
You know who else didnt play against the best competition in HS? Some guys named Peyton and Eli, oh and Odell Beckham Jr also played at Newman. While we're on that, wasnt there another Texas QB that played at a tiny, lower level west Texas school..Colt something or the other? Sorry to disappoint the haters, but Arch will be fine lol
So what’s your excuse for J.T Daniels who was a 5 star and played at the highest level in high school? Plz I would love to hear what you have to say.
Does every 5* player play against the absolute best competition in their state?
Look at it this way, Arch didn’t play against elite level talent. That also means he didn’t play WITH elite level talent either. It balances out.
@@jbm0866 i agree he learned from 3 that have been there
Neither did Bijan. Doesn't matter.
There should be a competition... between Ewers and Murphy. Arch Manning is nowhere near either one at this point.
Its Quinns team guys. Plus, Arch has to beat Maalik first and that wont be easy. Malik could be the best QB on the roster right now
More click bait smh 🤦♂️ … Archie is more worried about not losing his ID on campus lol
Good show, but most Texas fans believe Quinn will be QB1 this season, with Arch, or Maalik backing him up. Maalik is often overlooked, AND HE NEEDS to get healthy, but he is also involved in this competition. Arch definitely does not look like a typical freshman.
Texas paid 4 million to get Ewers...he is playing.
@@triple3miller Texas didn't pay a dime. He got that in NIL money. Arch will arguably get more, if he wants it.
@@davidhuffman145 @David Huffman 4 mill for the 4th string OSU QB....I guess when you have a 5-7 record, it's a good deal.
What you'll find is most Texas fan's IQ are around room temperature.
@@triple3miller Rumor is Manning got 10 mil+
Not a manning fan but he has the breeding no way he won’t be effective
Lol
You gotta have more knowledge of the situation than to think it’s a competition
I don’t believe you fall for the coach speak in spring. Dig deeper my man
Ewers will be the starter
4 million dollars why
@@triple3miller Sark isn’t going to start a true freshman over a sophomore with game experience there is no QB battle before you try and say he did last season that’s totally different Ewers is not Card no disrespect for Card he was not the type of QB Sarks offense revolves around Arch would be third string most likely if Murphy isn’t hurt unless he beats Murphy outright
@Jason Preston @Jason Preston When you outbid Tech to pay Ewers 4 million dollars...you play him.
@@triple3miller yeah not sure about nil deal for Ewers but yeah if that’s so then probably
@@triple3miller I don't think Ewers ever planned on going to Tech, he just used them as leverage to squeeze an extra million or so out of UT
People fail to realize that Arch was coached his whole life by 3 of the best QBs that have won multiple Superbowls
Whichever QB loses the battle, they'll transfer.
Wrong. Manning will not transfer when Quinn is the starter. This isn't a QB Battle. Ewers never intended to start this year. If Ewers doesn't leave for the NFL after next season, then there will be a QB battle and the loser will likely transfer.
Worst take ever.
I keep hearing this guy say Texas won 7 games last year and wonder if he paid any attention to the schedule. Texas clearly won 8 in the regular season.
It's Quinn job man. Arch got all the talent in the world and I think he'll be a stud he needs to sit a year tho. Watching his film and highlights and the kids he were playing against were absoutley ass and not d1 level guys. He need a year to adjust to size and speed when he gets it he'll he a guy
Can’t hang in SEC
Okay so if you’ve haven’t seen him play it’s like he’s good but you don’t know how good.. his competition was meh but he played with meh until he went against UHigh(LSU lab) in the playoffs and it was pretty bad but overall he’s pretty good.. over valued yes bc he’s not the best athlete out of Louisiana all time but I believe he can live up to his name😂
He broke his uncles records at that school. 🤣
@@firghteningtruth7173 So what? Passing yards have exploded across since his uncles played in highschool.
@@JJ-zr6fu so what? Aight, dude. 🤣
Quinn the NutLicquor is No 5 on the Depth chart
All of this just to be an average program still.
Kind of dumb. Everyone knows Manning is on campus. That was a huge recruiting get. Ewers is the starter and arch will be the backup. If f Ewers falters then arch may get his shot unless Sark wants to redshirt him.
Manning shound not start TBH. If he does The HC just doing it because of who he is
*8-5 again not 7-5 come on JP, don't reignite the 7 win Steve meme
There's no story here. Quinn starts and blows up the Big 12.
There's another Great Quarterback by the Name of Joe Burrow who was at Ohio State and it didn't work out for him, so he transferred to LSU and won it ALL! They Annihilated Clemson in the National BCS Championship Game! So, Texas has a dual threat so it would appear? My suggestion is platoon them. Groom both of them to be the BEST OF THE BEST.
Please start Manning so Ewers can transfer somewhere that doesn’t stink
Better start him now, SEC big boy football next year. He needs his experience now
Holy crap, look at that schedule. I hadn't really paid attention before now.
Besides Neyor getting to face his old teammates...which is just neat
And having to go TO Bama...
And of course Oklahoma...
The rest of this schedule (and this feel weird to say being a Texas fan of late) looks pretty damn winnable.
Baylor might be an issue. They had a down year last year, but Aranda is a good coach. And many of the big 12 coaches are VERY GOOD...BUT...
-Tcu loses a lot
-ksu loses a lot
-ISU loses a bit
-Oklahoma state loses a lot
I mean. We will see what ol lance can whip up at Kansas, I suppose...and Oklahoma, while they lost a bit, they GAINED quite a bit...and Bama, while they lose a LOT, is still Bama...
Idk...looks like the easiest schedule Texas has had in a WHILE.
@@Ryan-mx2kr lol. Whatever you say, buddy. 🤣 That's what Bama thought last year. That they'd just "run us over."
They eeked out because of a missed tackle on one of the best qbs to ever play college football. 🤣
@@Ryan-mx2kr the two times Bama has won in the last 2 decades vs us, they had to knock our qb out. OooOooOoh, scary. 🤣
Edit: our issue is never playing UP to competition. It is playing DOWN to competition.
@@firghteningtruth7173 Two hurt QBs and almost beat them healthy.
We only leave the state twice this season. Definitely a favorable schedule.
Sorry but it’s Quinn job there’s no battle here guys get over it
That’s not “doling out praise”…That’s “We’ve heard and done our share of fanning these flames for long enough (so much so that I yawn when saying it), and I want to see him actually do it day after day. Also, praise would have been more like “he’s got a great arm” or “he can make all the throws”, etc. It seems to me that this grizzled veteran doesn’t put much stock in words on paper, flat-footed private school defenses or even controlled SPRING practices where black jerseys are involved. I’ll wait until he lines up across from ‘Bama, or even the Texas Roadhouse Fighting Sirloins, and doesn’t 💩 himself.
Arch needs a yr to sit then he can start 2 yrs and go to the nfl.
Totally agree Quinn will start the season and if he doesn’t play up to his potential you will see Archie come in. Which will be exciting as he is something special!
It's not a QB battle. Manning will red shirt
cant wait to watch arch manning start and see texas win 8 games and make the alamo bowl
I am here just to laugh at the comments of ppl that don’t know jack shit about the Mannings and how the family operates.
Arch Manning should be better than Ewers immediately. Ewers overthrows to many passes. Ewers looked horrible against Washington in the Alamo Bowl.
He had almost 400 passing yards are you drunk?
A lot of that wasn't missed throws, it was the wrong route or Worthy being pushed around. Which makes sense because apparently he had a broken hand.
@@firghteningtruth7173 People ignore that development takes time
His receivers played like they're still in high school.
You don’t spend that kind of money and have a battle at any position.
Are we kidding… Manning is already an NFL QB…so if you don’t start him you are asking to lose.
The competition of which one is the most overrated QB of all time. Gonna be close.
During the spring game Arch looked like trash. All his passes looked bad. Not sure what game other people were watching. He needs to grow more.
Remember how toxic this team was just a a few bus rides ago? I think W’s and lots of them are on the way. Arch Manning at Texas says it all!
Super Star's
Maalik Murphy is the one ewers and manning are competing against
Maalik isnt gonna see playing time , hes constantly injured and is not even practicing . I doubt hes gonna stay and needs to get healthy and find a team that needs his caliber of QB .
Donors didn't pay Ewers and Manning millions to watch Murphy play.
Unpopular or maybe popular opinion, the new Manning was nothing particularly extraordinary in high school and played only a couple of remotely competitive teams. If his last name wasnt Manning he might have gone to UL Lafayette or McNeese and developed into a good starter there.
casual
He broke both his uncles records there. Which...especially if they are personally coaching him...he could be as gifted as Colt McCoy and do well.
He is MUCH more gifted than Colt. Tho, no shade to Colt. Man is a monster.
@@firghteningtruth7173 Do you know most people outside of Texas have no idea who you are talking about when you say Colt?
@@JJ-zr6fu Lol. What other Colt is there in football?
I'll wait.
Edit: Bama fans know. Nebraska definitely knows. Ohio state knows. Hell, USC fans know. Anyone who is a student of the game knows.
Sure some derpy derp who doesn't know what a flyover defense might not know...but who cares? They don't know shit.
@@JJ-zr6fu we're in a comment section about Texas football where the context is about Texas quarterbacks. You context clues my guy.
Texas was a stone throw away from being undefeated last season. The big 12 competition was incredible. I think the team has improved a lot on paper this year. We will see.
Texas lost 3 games last year. Almost lost to Iowa State. And TCU beat them. Georgia destroyed TCU. Texas has a long ways to go. I'm sorry. Texas lost to teams that would've lost most games in the SEC.
3⭐️ maybe bottom tier 4… 2A quarterback with the right last name… a sixth year senior, that doesn’t have enough talent to get to next level so he stays in college as long as the NCAA will keep granting him eligibility??? That’s who you’re going to for quotes?!? You’re better than this, Pate State.
Someone finally telling the truth. Simms wasn’t an elite QB and neither is Manning. Just have elite names, football wise.
The reason I can't listen to Josh regularly is he will never admit he's wrong and he will never criticize a program or questing a positive narrative.
Quinn Ewers is far better that’s the Manning kid
Arch Manning will fold like a McDonald's paper napkin under the speed of power 5 competition. He will be relegated to the back up role. Mark my word. 💯
Texas didn’t get Arch to come sit left bench. It’s Arch 💯
There is no QB competition Quin is our guy stop digging for pointless stories
Tell me you didn’t watch the whole video without saying you didn’t watch the whole video. - JP
@@LateKickwithJoshPate I didn’t watch it at all Quin is the guy unless he gets hurt not in a rush to throw Arch to the wolves 🤷🏽♂️🤘
Woof look at those recruiting rankings vs records. Ive been saying this but I think Texas has an overall culture problem.
If you're going to crucify the current staff for what has happened the past 10 years at Texas then you are just giving a lazy sports take. Texas is going to have a much better team in the future because the staff unlike the previous 2 are prioritizing trenches
@@Slick_Nick7567 it's been 15 boss
@@Slick_Nick7567 Sark after dark is part of the problem. No respectable head coach lets his wife dress him like that.
@David Webb you guys have sucked for 15 years. We sucked for one. BUT neither of us are where we want to be SO here's to next year!
Ewers is the obvious choice. Manning was good in his small school atmosphere but folded under real pressure both at the high school level and the college level(i.e. orange/white game).
Never heard of Josh Pate.
Tired of hearing about him.
sark is a joke
Arch manning is The most overrated qb ever! Remember this comment. I study film and he's awful