Hi - thanks for all the questions! To answer about the battery, I shipped them in advance via a Local Bike Shop. These guys were certified to send the batteries using UPS. They need to be certified dangerous goods shippers (you cant do it yourself, believe me, I tried!). The next step is Battery Rental Services in locations like Finale. As soon as I have more info on battery rentals I will share!
Excellent, genuinely some of the best emtb content on youtube. Can we have a part 2 with a break down of how you got the batteries posted, cost and a time frame. Thank you
I did the same some months ago myself. From Norway to Nice, France with KLM. No problem with ebike without battery. Had a riders week with Atlas Ride Co who also has batteries for Specialized Levo Turbo. I will go to Molini in March and do the same there.
My partner & I have been traveling with our e-bikes for 2 years flying around the world. We have sets of batteries we purchased in locations we fly to.
Buddy, that was a magnificent edit. Thoroughly enjoyed it! Did you do a video of the Crestline build up? As soon as I saw the downhill fork I went to their website but saw just normal boring forks on what they offered. Dying to see either a Kenevo replacement or some other brand take that leap and do it well.
Sorry but a little deceptive on the video title? Flying with an e-bike (without a battery) is the same as flying with any other bike... if you have a fancy case and willing to pay for the extra luggage. There were no details about powering up you bike at your destination other than about a 4 second mention of shipping your battery ahead of time?! Could you elaborate on that process?
I hire batteries at the other end. Prices have between $40-$50per day. When I looked at shipping in AU to NZ for a 3 days of riding in NZ it was going to cost $400-$500 return and not have my battery for 2 weeks before and after...
If one of the eMTB company produce breakable battery into 160wh, we would be able to carry them on the plane since the limit is 160wh on majority of airlines. There is actually no limit how many 160wh you can carry as long it fits on your carry on luggage.
i am new with emtb's, can you give me a recommendation? I am searching a full 29 inch bike, with bosch engine und good equipment. i will ride trails with it, use it for tours and for commuting.
Hey Rob, did you send the battery that you picked up at the place by courier from the UK? or in Liguria did you get the same battery that your ebike uses? Greetings from Lima, Peru
Although admittedly on a whole different level, we bought the flight compliant 95ah, backwards compatible battery for our Switch kit on our Bromptons. Better than nothing..
I've flown here in the US on Delta with my Ebike in my Dakine bag. No problem but had to special ship the battery to where I was going which was expensive.
Which is your favorite bike between the pivot shuttle LT, Crestline and Voime. How would you compare the downhill and climbing performance of the Crestline versus The shuttle. The Crestline has a much longer Chain stay and I’m really wondering what effect that has. I have the RH4 Crestline but I’m thinking I want to try something full 29 with a shorter Chain stay but I’m not in favor of the EP8 and the Pivot Bosch is only 148mm travel. Thanks in advance Gary
Using a evoc bag, but just can’t get the the total weight down to the max 23kg. Even with taking out the pedals, saddle and any accessories etc. any advice?
I used to fly with bikes but now i just hire at the destination. Unless youre going for two weeks & riding every day i can't see the point of all the extra hassle & cost of flying with the bike and, now, shipping dangerous goods internationally.
A "clever detail" in the recording of cyclists climbing the mountain and you passing by them without difficulty. But I prefer to pay for a morning on the cable car and enjoy the landscape, and while you do 2 or 3 descents I do more than double. Not to mention a DH bike weighing 14 kg. it is much more agile than a 22 kg one. You also have to take into account the difficulty of the trails where the world championships are held, which are prone to big falls... I've had some that if it were a battery-powered e-bike, it would have entered Earth's orbit.
You still shuttle to the top with the ebike. The ebike just allows you to then punch back up mid way to hit other trails that you would miss coming all the way down. Ebikes are plenty agile compared to a dh bike and you get more riding on an ebb not less??
@@Paulmac2011 Do you have 2 FR bikes, 1 DH bike, and 1 electric bike, plus 1 on TREK road? I have the 4 top-of-the-range Santa Cruz so I know what I'm talking about and that's why I don't agree with half of your comment and the other half I don't understand what it means.
@@Paulmac2011 Please, show me someone who says an e-bike is more agile. Here you have an expert who says that normal bicycles are more agile. Minute 8:20 th-cam.com/video/3FrraEv-QKc/w-d-xo.html
@@Paulmac2011 "...let's agree to disagree" doesn't mean anything. Unfortunately, TH-cam won't let me publish links from champions who say, against your opinion, that e-bikes are less agile.
i can take my snow touring airbag hat has a lithium battery on the plane. bit odd that you can't take your battery on. wonder if its to do with i being bigger. your youtube video should of included you taking your battery on the plane in luggage to see what happened
Great ideas. I live in Lousã, Portugal - if anyone wants to sort out an informal rental of a TQ battery from me whilst here, let me know. Does any kind of online group exist for people lending out/renting out there ebike batteries on an informal basis? I can see it working.
not sure why you thought that would be an issue ive been doing it for years. what ive never understood is u can have a laptop on the plane with the same lithium cells but some how thats ok !
@@robertcharlton4277 the batteries in a lap top are physically much smaller and far lower powered... Most airlines [in the USA at least] have a limit of 160Wh for Lithium batteries, so you can take those range extender bottle-cage batteries (typically 160Wh) in your carry-on (but not checked baggage) - but not a full size 500+Wh battery.
@@jmo2752 still 18650 cells or lipo same output per cell there are less of them but still just as capable of failing and causing fires. Oddly enough they did use lithium batteries on commercial aircraft at one point. I import them on a regular basis air freight from china for e bike builds kinda ironic the scaremongery that exists
Which countries did you fly to with such a big battery in your carry on? I travel a lot between NZ and Switzerland but so far was never brave enough to risk having my battery disposed of at security. Still travelling with my analog bike instead.
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Hi - thanks for all the questions! To answer about the battery, I shipped them in advance via a Local Bike Shop. These guys were certified to send the batteries using UPS. They need to be certified dangerous goods shippers (you cant do it yourself, believe me, I tried!). The next step is Battery Rental Services in locations like Finale. As soon as I have more info on battery rentals I will share!
Hi, how did you get the battery back to I’m again from Italy. Currently got a 320wh battery stuck in Rome I need to get to the uk
This vid is nice and all but I think its cheaper and more hassle free to just rent a bike there.
What about taxes? Or is it a special shipping method in which there has to be a return?
@@inb4thekill Probably, but i guess it depends how long your trip is.
Great weekend, excellent vid too! I didnt realise you were filming during half those shots! Stealthy!
Thanks Rob for sharing this amazing bike trip to Italy! Would love to experience this someday...
Excellent, genuinely some of the best emtb content on youtube. Can we have a part 2 with a break down of how you got the batteries posted, cost and a time frame. Thank you
Wow! Beautiful location, gnarly trails and riding with your mates. It just doesn't get any better than that. This video is primo content.
Looks like those conditions were ideal for that 180/175mm travel monster truck. LOVING mine!
More details on the battery shipping would be useful, please
its in the description, find a battery at your destination! (sound giga weird to me, considering that each battery is custom nowday)
added a comment on this above!
@@RobRidesEMTB cheers
Enfin une video de ride avec ce velo ! Merci !!
Ok im not a jealous guy but. Great bikes, beautiful location, good friends. And the riding looked epic. Im looking a little green right now.
Wow.., I’ve Really Enjoyed Watching This. Awesome ~ Awesome..‼️
Great video....but, I still don't know how you got the battery there 🤔.
Did you mail it, or was that a rental battery? More info please.
I did the same some months ago myself. From Norway to Nice, France with KLM. No problem with ebike without battery. Had a riders week with Atlas Ride Co who also has batteries for Specialized Levo Turbo. I will go to Molini in March and do the same there.
Molini ✅
What a super week we had, great to host you for the week! See you again soon! Our 2024 dates are selling fast!
How the control the ebike with or without battery at the airport?
The box/bike goes trough a big xray machine at the airport. Pretty easy to see if there is a battery in it, i guess.@@ilidiofaria
Meu Deus que bicicleta linda, parece até um fórmula 1 meu sonho. Um dia eu consigo 🙏🏿
Awesome
Video!
tracks look insane! agree with other comments some more details of the battery sending would be helpful.
My partner & I have been traveling with our e-bikes for 2 years flying around the world. We have sets of batteries we purchased in locations we fly to.
What was the 2 way - shipping cost/battery Rob?
Buddy, that was a magnificent edit. Thoroughly enjoyed it! Did you do a video of the Crestline build up? As soon as I saw the downhill fork I went to their website but saw just normal boring forks on what they offered. Dying to see either a Kenevo replacement or some other brand take that leap and do it well.
I Love Venice 💕
Sorry but a little deceptive on the video title? Flying with an e-bike (without a battery) is the same as flying with any other bike... if you have a fancy case and willing to pay for the extra luggage. There were no details about powering up you bike at your destination other than about a 4 second mention of shipping your battery ahead of time?! Could you elaborate on that process?
Love finale 🙌
How much did it cost to ship battery over?
Ligure is amazing! Rob :)
I hire batteries at the other end. Prices have between $40-$50per day. When I looked at shipping in AU to NZ for a 3 days of riding in NZ it was going to cost $400-$500 return and not have my battery for 2 weeks before and after...
Enjoy 👍🏻🎼
Finale Ligure ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️😍😍😍😍😍
Man... if I was a 2 hour flight from the south of France / Italy, I'd be doing that trip as often as I could!
Hello sir. I like this is Bike 😊
You mentioned that the batteries were sent in advance. How did you get them to your destination?
Another one for shipping details. Getting anything to across the border to Europe after Brexit is a massive headache/nightmare even if personal.
If one of the eMTB company produce breakable battery into 160wh, we would be able to carry them on the plane since the limit is 160wh on majority of airlines. There is actually no limit how many 160wh you can carry as long it fits on your carry on luggage.
i am new with emtb's, can you give me a recommendation? I am searching a full 29 inch bike, with bosch engine und good equipment. i will ride trails with it, use it for tours and for commuting.
great ridelog!
Would love to know the price on the battery shipping there and back? It’s pushing me further towards the TQ setup with the 160wh internal
Hey Rob, did you send the battery that you picked up at the place by courier from the UK? or in Liguria did you get the same battery that your ebike uses? Greetings from Lima, Peru
Although admittedly on a whole different level, we bought the flight compliant 95ah, backwards compatible battery for our Switch kit on our Bromptons. Better than nothing..
Battery rental is definitely the better option and should be made more of a thing.
What did your bike and bag weigh? Did you pack any parts separately to hit under 32kg? I’m about to take my Rail 9.8 to USA
I've flown here in the US on Delta with my Ebike in my Dakine bag. No problem but had to special ship the battery to where I was going which was expensive.
i just go in my campervan from England to the alps zero prob on ferry and take everything with me!
Which is your favorite bike between the pivot shuttle LT, Crestline and Voime. How would you compare the downhill and climbing performance of the Crestline versus The shuttle. The Crestline has a much longer Chain stay and I’m really wondering what effect that has. I have the RH4 Crestline but I’m thinking I want to try something full 29 with a shorter Chain stay but I’m not in favor of the EP8 and the Pivot Bosch is only 148mm travel.
Thanks in advance
Gary
Using a evoc bag, but just can’t get the the total weight down to the max 23kg. Even with taking out the pedals, saddle and any accessories etc.
any advice?
wanted to go to finale last week but canceled because of weather lol
What frame size do you use? Been thinking on getting an evoc bag, but not sure if my XL frames will fit.
last week in Finale is worse than all the other winter! it's a pity you didn't come a week earlier..
@robridesemtb how many climbs could you do on a full fat eMTB before needing to recharge?
I’ve said for years there’s a market for renting ebike batteries at mtb destinations!
Nice. We stayed at Hotel Medusa as well. Hope you tried the burger pub around the corner ;)
Yes we did, was great!
Always check with your airline! There are airlines that do not allow ebikes even without batteries.
what are the bike bags used for the trip?
Could you please recommend the bike bag?
Most freight companies (dhl etc.) can truck or fly batteries I think they just don’t go on commercial flights
But is possible send an ebike in a bike bag trough carrier like DHL?
Could you explain the battery shipping and package ? .
05:57 I Like Rain👌🏼
I think a bike box would be best for ebike, the evoc weight is too high. When the mtb (downhill) pros fly you always see them using cardboard boxes
Why didn't you just pack the batteries in your carry on luggage?
Anybody know which bike bag will fit over 1330mm wheelbase?
2022 Norco Shore 1 XL she’s a big rig and needs a long bag …..
So what is the percentage of riding to preparation packing travelling and hanging out in rain sporting an umbrella?
What is the model of your Evoc travel bag?
I suggest that when you put any music in the video, only the natural sounds around you
Is it ok to go without battery but with e-bike. And just use shuttle service as usual ?
How much did you pay per Bike 🚲 to have them in the Cargo Bay?
Hey Rob
Can you tell me the difference between Crestline and Santa Cruz heckler??
Thanks Mateusz 😉
crestline is a great super enduro, SC heckler, great endro rig w shitty motor
I used to fly with bikes but now i just hire at the destination.
Unless youre going for two weeks & riding every day i can't see the point of all the extra hassle & cost of flying with the bike and, now, shipping dangerous goods internationally.
A "clever detail" in the recording of cyclists climbing the mountain and you passing by them without difficulty. But I prefer to pay for a morning on the cable car and enjoy the landscape, and while you do 2 or 3 descents I do more than double. Not to mention a DH bike weighing 14 kg. it is much more agile than a 22 kg one. You also have to take into account the difficulty of the trails where the world championships are held, which are prone to big falls... I've had some that if it were a battery-powered e-bike, it would have entered Earth's orbit.
You still shuttle to the top with the ebike.
The ebike just allows you to then punch back up mid way to hit other trails that you would miss coming all the way down.
Ebikes are plenty agile compared to a dh bike and you get more riding on an ebb not less??
@@Paulmac2011 Do you have 2 FR bikes, 1 DH bike, and 1 electric bike, plus 1 on TREK road? I have the 4 top-of-the-range Santa Cruz so I know what I'm talking about and that's why I don't agree with half of your comment and the other half I don't understand what it means.
Well let's agree to disagree then.
I've been to finale ligure on both ebike and analogue, I preferred the ebike experience.
@@Paulmac2011 Please, show me someone who says an e-bike is more agile.
Here you have an expert who says that normal bicycles are more agile. Minute 8:20
th-cam.com/video/3FrraEv-QKc/w-d-xo.html
@@Paulmac2011 "...let's agree to disagree" doesn't mean anything. Unfortunately, TH-cam won't let me publish links from champions who say, against your opinion, that e-bikes are less agile.
i can take my snow touring airbag hat has a lithium battery on the plane. bit odd that you can't take your battery on. wonder if its to do with i being bigger. your youtube video should of included you taking your battery on the plane in luggage to see what happened
Can I take a spare battery with me on my electric bike?
Where can I buy the bike since no where on crest lines website does is it show where to buy
So you didn't need any custom documentation (Carnet) to go and return from the EU?
No
Great ideas. I live in Lousã, Portugal - if anyone wants to sort out an informal rental of a TQ battery from me whilst here, let me know. Does any kind of online group exist for people lending out/renting out there ebike batteries on an informal basis? I can see it working.
you take the shuttle anyway. Why bother with batteries.
Great trip shame about the shite weather rob.
Algarve/Portugal has the most hours of sun in Europe...less known trails,best kept secret. cheers Rob
Did carry the batteries in your back pack
not sure why you thought that would be an issue ive been doing it for years. what ive never understood is u can have a laptop on the plane with the same lithium cells but some how thats ok !
@@robertcharlton4277 the batteries in a lap top are physically much smaller and far lower powered... Most airlines [in the USA at least] have a limit of 160Wh for Lithium batteries, so you can take those range extender bottle-cage batteries (typically 160Wh) in your carry-on (but not checked baggage) - but not a full size 500+Wh battery.
US TSA info here: www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/lithium-batteries-more-100-watt-hours
@@jmo2752 still 18650 cells or lipo same output per cell there are less of them but still just as capable of failing and causing fires. Oddly enough they did use lithium batteries on commercial aircraft at one point. I import them on a regular basis air freight from china for e bike builds kinda ironic the scaremongery that exists
cool 😎
Should re-title - "How to get youtube to pay for my trip to Italy, and write off the whole jolly for tax purposes"
I fly with my ebike all the time. I carry the battery with me on plane. never one issue.
Which countries did you fly to with such a big battery in your carry on? I travel a lot between NZ and Switzerland but so far was never brave enough to risk having my battery disposed of at security. Still travelling with my analog bike instead.
mainly between alaska and all over the continental US@@pootjube
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Vous pouvez m offrirez une de votre vélo
Just use private jet next time..
Hey, Niece is France - not Italy 😂