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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Audi RS5, BMW M3, or C63 AMG?
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0:00 - Intro
BAD:
0:20 - Not as dynamic
The M car will feel me dynamic and sharper and more disciplined
It will feel more at home at the limit and on track
So if you’re looking for the most aggressive thing go ahead and head over to BMW…but here’s the thing
2 Years ago I was driving around Road America in the wet with the new M4…I wasn’t anywhere near the limit and it wasn’t even THAT wet
And I still lost the rear out of turn 3 and almost ended up in the grass…so the M car will bite you if you’re not ready for that level or not expecting it
The RS5 is a bit more forgiving…you get Quattro AWD as std…you get a little understeer on corner entry so there’s a bit of safety built in
BUT I have to say, I drove this car in 2019 and the differences dynamically are larger than i thought
This new updated car has far less understeer, the chassis feels more neutral, and you can steer a little bit with power
It’s not going to fling itself sideways like the M, but if you’re thinking it’s not FUN you’re wrong
It’s fast, it sounds good, there’s good drama from the gearbox - and it’s a better handler than it’s ever been before
The only reason I have this point on this side of the video is because relative to the M3/4 it’s not as balls-to-the-wall crazy…and i’m not really interested in the C63 after driving the C43
1:55 - Not as fast or powerful
This comes down to performance on paper and the BMW is just more powerful and faster
The RS5 gets the same 2.9TT V6 we’re familiar with and from the factory it’s pumping out 444 hp and 443 lbft
In comparison the M3 base puts out 473 hp and 406 lbft
So more power but less torque
An M3 Comp will do 503 hp and with xDrive it’s getting to 60 in 3.4 sec..which is realistically only a tenth or two quicker than the RS5 with it’s more torque down low and AWD grip
And the C63 is making something like 670 hp and 750 lbft and does 0-60 in 3 sec dead
So the BMW and Mercedes are more powerful and quicker, but the AMG has a star next to it and the BMW is only very marginally quicker
2:51 - The Culture
I don’t usually talk about this because it’s impossible to cover the entirety of the culture and everyone’s experience differs
But there is something that I’ve noticed in my time around cars and it’s that BMW people in particular, are incredibly dismissive of Audis RS cars
Like the RS5 doesn’t get the respect I think it deserves because it’s not as crazy or it understeers a bit or it’s softer
But I guess the way tht I look at it is that the RS5 is more honest about what it is
These aren’t race cars, they’re luxury sport sedans and MOST people will never once put their 80k car on a race track
[I know some people will, and that’s great]
But for the majority of sales, and the data shows this - they’re never tracking the car and from that angle the Audi is a better companion day-to-day…and we’ll talk about that more in a little bit…but let’s switch gears and talk about all the great parts of this car
GOOD:
3:55 - Price
Starts 78,600 for coupe
+$300 for sportback
Easy choice
Comp starts at 93,800
I’ll skip the Comp
M3 to get AWD need toget comp
Starts 84k
C63
STARTS at 95k - Just dont
4:30 - Still fun/Best daily
Explain*
5:38 - Practicality
This is what Audi does so well
Introduce practicality to performance
This is Sportback which means hatchback
Huge cargo area
Cant fold seats from here tho - M2
You dont get this in the M or AMG cars
It’s the same thing as you move up in size too
So better looking and more practical is what I was talking about when i said this might be the car to get now
6:10 - Styling
Yes, the M3/4 twins are more dynamic and faster
But they look like that
This RS5 is gorgeous
Facelift in 2022
New headlights
Grille split detail like R8
Lower fascia adjustments (radar)
Taillights updated
Way better looking than the M or AMG
6:52 - AWD standard
Quattro
7:19 - Interior Build, Design, Quality
Nice big center screen
Not the dual we see i nthe RS7
All touch - no more MMI wheel as of 22
ACP & AA
360 cameras
Great, but not spinny
Virtual cockpit
Great materials
Red accent stitching to match brakes
Heated and massage optional seats
Heated steering wheel
8:13 - Rear Seats
Reasonably spacious
Headroom starts to be an issue, but legroom is quiet good
Materials are excellent
45% of the material here is recycled
Center armrest is per side…cuz why not
9:05 - Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Mercedes Amg c63 se performance is the king and class leader .
@@coke947 Ohp 👀
One of my favorite things about owning the RS5 is that you never see them. I see M3/M4/M5’s all day but rarely do you see the RS5/RS7/RSQ8. Great review btw
Same with the s5s 🤝🤝
There are plenty S5/RS5's in my area...
I've got this exact car. I have to say, it's more than just performance. As a complete package, the Audi just does everything so well. And the interior, spectecular.
Except the unbearable ride...
@@DMCarReviews? What
I've owned a 2024 M2, 2022 S5, and 2019 RS5. Everything you've said is accurate. If you want to launch through intersections in congested city streets in tight gaps and then go get groceries and pack up a bunch of gear for a beach trip, this is the car. If you want a track or highway toy buy an M car.
I have a lightly tuned 2016 A6, love it and thinking on upgrading before that 100k mark. Either s6 or rs5 hard to decide.
The best thing about the RS5 is it doesnt have the butt ugly front end like the M3.
I have owned 14 stage + or stage 3 Audi’s, one AMG, and now own an M3 competition…. You can’t compare the driving experience: the RS5 you can drive 10/10, the M3 comp you better be a race car driver to drive it 10/10….. it’s a difficult car to handle at its limit. Guess it depends what you want
Great review. One of the best I've seen. Given you live in Milwaukee, where I am guessing the roads are crap like here in Toronto, would it be too stiff as a daily driver ?
It's extremely stiff!
No not at all, it's got dynamic or comfort modes. Comfort is great comparable to my old A3. Dynamic is a bit rough...lol I live in Utah btw
Thank you ❤
As a soldier in Germany, I see BMW everywhere. It seems as though they are a dime a dozen. I own an S5 and it seems as though I own a rare care in comparison.
Agree with you on Audi RS’ they are luxury enjoyable diamonds
Thank you very much for your observations. Especially your comparisons with BMW and MB are very accurate and consistent. For me, who does not like German products, when it comes to roads and ground conditions with a very high average (speeding for hours) and a lot of variability, I see this new RS5 and other Quattros with large wheelbase as the most balanced vehicle in standard production. I am not a racer, but I spent 3million km's on public roads and highways, mostly by speeding. It has come across me a lot, Quattro encourages even standard drivers to speed comfortably, reassuringly. The BMW M also encourages people, but when the water or snow starts to fall on the road, it's no longer there. I don't think there's any need to talk about the MB at average speed. Because it's a very tiring car.
$95k for a 4 cylinder that used to be a twin turbo V8 is beyond sacrilege. Definitely say no to that AMG.
The B9 and B9.5 has a 2.9 TT V6, the B8 RS5 has a 4.2 NA V8
I'm one of the 0-10% of people who track it: after my Guilia QV, this isn't in a track car. Idk about even auto-crossing it (yet, but I'll do so this wkd). After putting 3K on a cross-country road trip, it's supremely comfortable. Essentially, it's just like my S5 SB, but with a QV kicker, when you want it.
I admit I can't stand the rudimentary level of comfort of a Bimmer; MB excels in that area, but idk why I'd pay $10K more just to get it right. I (personally) think I'm a Caddy guy, bc my V & vSport were quick, fun to drive, and haven't been in a more comfortable auto that met all 3 than the vSport... but my RS5 is quicker & eats the miles in the same way in exceptional comfort. Apparently in a manner BMW still can't abide after all these years of dour interiors lol. Bc my QV was so tail happy in "A" mode (the only way to turn off the nannies), I'm actually rather glad to have AWD to pick up my slack. Whereas it was veeeeerrrry EASY to figure out when the QV would rotate (turn; give gas; tada! 🪄), I think I finally figured out the crossover point on the RS5 lol. It takes an exceptional amount of turn-in with a fair amount of throttle to get it to respond... so I'll keep practicing lol.
This is a fantastic car and gorgeous. If it’s at least 10k cheaper I would pick it over the M3 but if it’s close in price I’d take the M3. I hated the previous gen M3 but this gen I like a lot.
Agree^
I buy used almost so that I can turn cars over quicker lol: the 2022 M4 I took out was a fast car... surely faster than my RS5... but it wasn't faster (so far as I could tell) than my QV and yet the interior wasn't as nice as my 19 Guilia... I am not an Audifista, yet after an S4, S5, and this RS5, I guess I'm getting there lol.
m3 more fun, worse for daily and log trips
Classy car! I had a A4 and an S5 Coupe, they were beautiful but what bothered me every time I got in them was that cheap looking Nav screen stuck on top of the dash. A car of this caliber deserves to have it integrated into the dash! Cant Audi at least round the corners of the current model's Screen and make it look more upscale? 🤷♂️
I agree but believe it or not they’ve done studies and most people “prefer” the tablet style
@@dwnshft idk about this (could be either way, I'm not arguing) but the 2/3ds bonnet from tach-to-electronics is something Audi did once before & quite well before. So long as it's not motorized (something else to go wrong yo!), I'm for a new take.
2022 RS5 owner here, you get used to it. In my seating position the top bezel of the screen lines up with the bottom of the windshield and when using maps it is more of a lateral eye movement to look at the screen rather than looking down into the dash as with a nested type infotainment system. It's quite natural in practice. I do wish they had the hideaway feature though where it would tuck itself away into the dash like the older gen Audis
Am getting this car in 5 days. Cannot wait 🔥
Nice 😎
how is it?
@@Aeerouit’s amazing 😻
@@AK-wc7byhow's the suspension?
Great car, but as with all modern cars it's not built to last without constant repairs after a certain mileage.
Now try the Competition package and let us know of your opinion
I've never really understood the need to compare a car with its competitors. So you spent more money to get a slightly better number on paper. And? You're hardly going to notice a difference, if at all. The RS5 is a stunningly gorgeous car, and sounds amazing. That's what makes it the winner for me.
In terms of ride for a daily, would you say the RS5 is more comfortable than the M3?
i would, yes
@dwnshft it's not
You can get up to 150-200km/h easily in RS5 on track. Disagree it is absolutely a race car.
Definitely track it or just get an A5. Its plenty quick round the neighbourhood.
Audi be like new year same me for the past few years.
lol 💯
I would put my family in a RS 5 while still enjoy it rather than a M4. If I was 10 years younger, I would go for a M4.
best car under 100k
Big claim! 👀
Previous RS5 owner.. It is shame that Audi mistreats RS5.. no ventilated seats.. no 3D 360 camera.. like come on.. really!?!
It is quite strange
Also no alcantara headliner, no full leather option (i.e. dashboard, upper door trims)
Eh....? I've 360 camera on my RS5. Over the last 5 years, my QV and M3 didn't have ventilated seats... my V and vSport Caddy's did & it's why I rank them high, here in the sunny desert lol... this is now the THIRD dang car I've bought with the "winter package" that didn't include the "summer package" too lol.
@@soarabove337 I am talking about the 3D 360 camera
It does have the 360 Top down view, when I ordered my 2022 they said I could spec the ventilated seats but they wouldn't have the massage or the matching red stitching sport seats
The ride in the RS5 is one of the stiffest of any car I ever driven.
Audi needs to update their interiors pronto. They’re falling behind fast.
They’ve been the same for quite a while
Lmao... have you been in a 2024 Bimmer lately? Ok sure, I'll give you MB's interiors are always 'nice'.... top of the heap!, even... but they're not driver- and passenger-centric when it comes to comfort. At least, so far as we can tell.🤷♂
This is Audi’s answer to the F80 M3, this car has been out for about 7 years now and interior is on another level compared to the F80. The B10 will be revealed soon but i’d say this interior is aging pretty nicely
Nice car but over priced!
Honestly, the BMW is crazy ugly.
The S5 is a better choice....