1990s: Hey kids! Everyone run up to the cockpit and check out the controls! 2022: Ma’am. This shampoo is 3.8 ounces. You’re going to need to come with us.
Experienced both of those in my life. First in a 747, still with all the steam gauges and the extra flight engineer. I think later also on a 737 with an early glass cockpit.
i was flying to a vacation destination as a kid in the late 90's.. i had a small self made book with plane pictures, and some information about the planes like a sort of collection of stuff i had found on magazines and such. i'm not sure if a flight attendant or my parents told someone about my book but i got called into the cockpit.. i got to hang out for couple of mins and the captain singed my book and gave me a pin with wings.. it meant the world to me, i almost cried but managed to hold myself together.. i still have that pin.
"He's on his final approach... for life" 🤣 That just made my day, thank you. P.S There's one more thing wrong in this movie, there's no "aaa..." while captain is making his PA.
I fly fairly often, and I think more and more pilots are watching Kelsey's videos. They've upped their game with the PA's. I haven't heard the "aaa" in a couple of years. Congratulations, Kelsey! Your videos not only entertain the general public, they're also instructional videos for the pilots!
@@ajs11201 I, unfortunately, was able to fly somewhere for the last time in 2017 so super long time ago, and both pilots from Qatar Airways (Narita➡️Doha➡️Warsaw) were making a lot of "aaaa" 😅 I'm wondering if something now has changed.
@J Hemphill a lot of Qatar Air pilots are from the UK. So, not so much of a foreign language. Arabic being the spoken language in Qatar, but English is also very common, as they used to be a British protectorate.
@@ajs11201 I was thinking the same thing recently! No "aaaa"s from the pilots 🙂 And the last couple of PA's I've heard were so put together they were like read by an actor 😃
Many years ago I heard a story about an ATC controller receiving a request for clearance to FL 600 (from an SR-71, as it turned out.) The controller replied, "If you think you can make it up to 60.000 ft, you are cleared." The answer was "Thanks. _Descending_ to FL 600." Do take the validity of the story with an Antonov An-225 worth of salt. :) I have more faith in the story about vertical separation between a Concorde and an SR-71 over the ocean, though.
@@awhahoo the story comes from former Air Traffic Controller Peter Clarke. He wrote the following: Flying between 55,000 to 60,000ft Concorde was above the subsonic jet aircraft. It was given this vertical profile of 5,000ft as the actual altitude the Concorde would level off at depended on the actual temperature on the day. This temperature could also vary during the crossing so the aircraft would adjust altitude accordingly. One or 2 executive jet aircraft could possibly reach 43,000ft on a good day but they were still not a problem to Concorde. On one particular day, however, I did control another aircraft that could more than match Concorde both in speed and altitude, the American military SR-71 Blackbird Mach 3+ spy plane. Sometimes military aircraft crossing the Atlantic would have a reserved route kept clear for them in order for formations of jets to refuel en-route, as necessary, from an accompanying tanker. The SR-71 had more than sufficient range for the crossing and was operating solo. Although we would control many American subsonic aircraft like the C-141 or C-17 heavy cargo aircraft or maybe even troop carriers on our Track system they would not communicate with our HF radio station near Shannon. Instead they would use an American military HF radio station (Croughton) in Oxfordshire. Like most military units they had a regular change of staff so, generally, the radio operators had very limited experience of the operations they were handling. Keep it simple for them and it was OK. Anything out of the ordinary and it caused much confusion. I was controlling a westbound Concorde just entering my airspace when I received details of an SR-71 coming eastbound on a route that would conflict with Concorde. The SR-71 did not always fly supersonically, it was doing less than Mach 1 on this day, but it was still at a very high altitude. I had been told it was “above 600”, i.e. above 60,000ft. Concorde was operating up to 60,000ft and the vertical separation standard at that altitude was 4,000ft. I sent a message to the American radio operator to ask for the exact altitude of the SR-71. A few minutes later the answer came back, “Above 600.” I telephoned the radio operator explaining I needed the exact altitude. The radio operator’s response was, “I’ll patch you through.” The operator had a facility to operate a 2-way switch on the radio. Push it one way and you could transmit over the telephone, switch it the other way to receive. At the end of each transmission you had to remember to say “Over’ in order for the radio operator to know when to flick the switch. I was now talking directly to the pilot of the SR-71. “This is the Shanwick controller, confirm your altitude. Over.” SR-71, “We are above 600. Over” Me, “I need to know your exact altitude. Over” SR-71, “Above 600. Over”. Me, “Am I to understand you are unable to give me your exact altitude? Over” SR-71, “Affirmative. Over” (These aircraft had a stealth capability and could fly at very, very high altitude, often above 70,000ft. They did not, however want anyone to know exactly at what altitude they were flying so would switch off their radio signal that would indicate altitude to a radar operator once they climbed.) Me, “OK, I have a Concorde operating westbound on a conflicting route with you at 60,000ft. I need 4,000ft vertical separation. Do I have it? Over” SR-71, “You sure have.” Me, “That’s all I need to know. Thanks. Out”
I heard of a child who was allowed to sit in the copilot's seat. He was told he could hold the controls. Then the captain relaxed back with his hands behind his head. The boy's knuckles turned white as he told the captain, "But I don't know how to fly." Not realising the autopilot was engaged!
No one is born to be anything my friend. It takes hard work to get to that stage, you don't simply just come out of your momma and 'wow hes going to be a pilot!' or doctor, etc. Me and my sister actually did exactly what he mentioned back in the 90s. On a flight from South America we were let into the cockpit. Did I become a pilot? Nope, but guess what? I still love planes just as much, as I just chose to go and learn to become a good surgeon and I save lives for a living.
Gee, Kelsey, when I was a kid back in the 60's, I remember once when my dad took me on the plane he was flying on (at Stapleton airport in Denver), because in those days, family members could accompany passengers onto the plane to say goodbye (?!). The pilot gave me a full tour of the flight deck, I met the Captain, 1st officer and flight engineer, and the captain even gave me a kid-sized metal wing pin for Eastern Airlines (which I still have). After a few minutes, the head stewardess announced that loading would soon begin, and all non-passengers had to leave the plane. How things have changed!
I remember my first flight in an aeroplane- it was that old , Pontius was the Pilot, so I asked him " How often do these 'Planes crash?" He replied " Just the Once !" so I asked him which were the safest seats, to which he replied " Always chose the very back of the aircraft, as we can't back into mountains!"
I remember my first flight, that was so long ago, it was right after they invented air. Yeah, I'm old enough to have participated in the Great Earth Dirt Delivery Project, so I am indeed older than dirt. ;)
Peep holes at waist height are called glory...you know. When Kelsey talks about the past and open cockpits, my mind goes back to before deregulation, cockpit visits, spacious seating, well dressed travelers, luxury front to back in differing levels, and I get a nostalgia attack. Of course, one cannot deny the excitement of taped up passengers and in flight riots.
I haven't flown for several years, so I haven't had the wonderful experience of passenger temper tantrums. But years ago we had a fun medical emergency while flying from SeaTac to LAX on a Sunday morning. As we approached L.A., the captain informed us there was a lot of traffic and we'd have to wait to land. Meanwhile, a guy in the seat behind us had partied too much the previous night and was feeling it. The flight attendants brought him an oxygen bottle. The pilot declared a medical emergency, dropped the right wing so that we turned just short of downtown L.A., then headed straight in. No holding patterns for us that day! We had an exciting ride, and the ailing passenger turned out OK.
It can still happen on the ground. A few years ago when we were boarding in Baltimore, the pilot saw us coming and and asked if our son would like to checkout the cockpit. He was in there through the whole boarding process and they let him make the preflight announcements.
when i was about 4, in 2004/5 there was a delay and the pilot let some parents with kids come and see the cockpit, when i got there my dad asked how long have they been pilots and one of them said it was their first ever commercial flight, my mum wasnt a fan of flying so we kept that a secret from her aha
@@robbiegillibrand3892 Maybe they were joking about their first flight. If I was a pilot I would tell people I have never flown before just to freak them out. That's probably why they don't let me be a pilot. :)
when i was in the army in 1999 i got to sit infront of the doors or hanging cloth behind the pilots.. a dehavillan dash 7.. the plane was overbooked.. different times.. just before x-mas that year..
@6:00 hey Kelsey, did you ever get to meet one of those pilots as a pilot and go: "hey remember that kid in the flight deck bombarding you with questions in the 80s, I'm all grown up now!"
Kelsey, your videos have really helped me mentally prepare for a trip with connecting flights I was really anxious about, since I haven't flown in about 7 years. On my way back home yesterday, I was actually able to sit back and enjoy both flights, even being a bit excited about it. So just wanted to say thank you! I always enjoy your videos, keep them coming
Talking about cockpit door being open in the "old" days - my first flight was a very long time ago, and it was on a DC3. It was a regional flight. I remember that if there was a door, it certainly was not used and being a small aircraft it was easy to watch the pilots, and instead of using an intercom, the pilot merely yelled over his shoulder to passengers and the attendant. And when the pilot wanted us to see something he just dipped the wing to make it easier to see. My second flight was the connecting international flight, and that was on a 707. It felt so space age back in the 1960's and that feeling of the engines spooling up for takeoff is far quieter in modern aircraft, but the love of that feeling has never left me. And I have never forgotten that DC3 pilot talking us through the flight.
Speaking of how it was in the actual old days the first commercial crash was two planes cashing into each other because they were too focused on looking at the road to navigate
I remember being on a flight as a kid back in the late 80s or early 90s, either a 727 or an MD-80, and the pilot announced a planned cruising altitude of 42,000 feet. The only reason I remember it is because my father--a lifelong private pilot and flight enthusiast--went wide-eyed and let out a muffled "holy %$#@," and my mother shot him the stink-eye.
Just flew from LHR to ORD a few days ago on a BA Dreamliner, we were cruising at 40,000 feet. According to a quick google search the service ceiling for the plane is 43,100 feet .. impressive. The A380 nearly the same.
I must admit I laughed way too hard at the "his final approach for life" line. Also hollywood cockpits are like twice the size of regular cockpits from what I have noticed.
@@COPKALA yeah, they get A LOT of aviation stuff wrong. Take flightplan, for example. There is so much wrong with that movie that I don't even know where to begin.
Being a military brat, I started traveling by air from a very young age. I also got several sets of wings, those little things you pin on your shirt, TWA and Pan Am!!! Those were the days!!
In 2000 a few families including mine went to Mexico on the way there this happened to me the pilot actually brought me and two of my friends (who were 10-9-8 years old) into the cockpit and showed us how everything worked and it was one of the most amazing experiences I’ve ever had. To bad that will never be allowed again.
Even as an adult I sort of regret that despite being a nervous flyer, I’m fairly certain that my curiosity would enable me to forget to be nervous for awhile.
Had the opportunity to sit in the jump seat on a sunset landing at the old Hong Kong airport. They gave me a headset and told me to be quiet. What a surreal experience.
Landing and taking off in old Kai tak airport is really something, people don't realize it that much from a passenger perspective, but from a pilot perspective, its..... well I wish to relive that, only in flight sims these day.
Hi Kelsey, those eyebrow windows were NOT for the navigation by using sextants to measure the elevation ange of stars. Sextants were put through a special small round port at the top of the cockpit - behind the pilot's seats. Eyebrow windows were for visual sighting for the pilots when the aircraft were in a banked attitude and the pilos had to see the runway when flying a visual circuit - to judge their position for turning base or during the turn from base to final.
Good man...I was waiting for someone to point out his mistake. I'm flying 25 years now and I only found out that small niche of trivia, even though I've actually worked on 733's & 34's with them. Very few pilots actually know that info.
I second that wholeheartedly! I was a USAF navigator on C-141s and C-5s decades ago. Those aircraft were built with ports and mounts in the cockpit ceilings for extension of periscopic sextants. Of course we used them for celestial navigation (GPS and INS weren’t available), but there was a nifty housekeeping use for the ports too. We could mount a long hose to the port and use the external rushing air to vacuum the cockpit.
These ports are Astrodomes right? Or similar? I’ve seen on some British Second World War bombers that they’re situated often behind the main glass of the cockpit, within easy reach of the navigator’s position (A navigator often having an area he can black out with a curtain and attend charts and maps with a lamp)
@@eagleclaw899 The only similarity to astrodomes is that the ports and the mounts are fixtures in the cockpit ceiling. The sextant used is not handheld. It is attached to the ceiling via the mount and has a barrel that extends through the port so that the navigator can periscopically observe the heavens via special optics. A blackout curtain is not necessary.
I find the videos both entertaining and informative, as I had no interest in aviation until recently when I saw a livestream of planes coming in to land during the brutal crosswinds duration storm Eunice at Heathrow by BigJet tv. Not only were the pilots really having trouble keeping the planes level enough for landing-and having an astonishing number of go arounds, but they were flying diagonally. I had no idea planes could even do that, let alone deliberately. So I did a couple searches on TH-cam, read a few basic concepts regarding how aircraft actually fly and promptly tumbled down the rabbit hole. 😁 The irony is that I don’t actually like flying because it both makes me nervous and has some odd moments of a feeling very much like vertigo at certain times during flights.
When I was a toddler, around 1997ish they still allowed kids to see the cockpit. Ever since 9/11 and the advent of social media technology, we've been distancing ourselves increasingly from one another. Before 2008, we had alot of manufacturing jobs too. I really do miss that era. Hard to accept that it'll never come back.
Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither. Maybe one day politics will not be ruled by panic and emotion, but a measured proportional response to threat. Nobody asked for it. Most people hate it. If it varied from airline to airline people could vote with their feet. But no. You must be insulated from all risks. I do appreciate they took smoking off, but i would appreciate better air quality. The truth is the radiation exposure from air travel probably kills more people than the hijackings and terror did at its height. Good luck finding protection there.
Airlines *could* provide their own security, and it would be a lot better - they have a billion dollars worth of investment to protect, after all. But why bother, when you can get the taxpayer to pay for your "security?"
Airport security is like the gun control debate. While I understand the need for security and vigilance, those terrorists were just bad actors. But because someone took advantage of the system, copycat criminals will try to do the same. It's a matter of balancing the extra security, and ensuring our technology is up-to-date.
Turbulence : 1975-76-ish I was on a flight when an announcement was made about turbulence. A lead flight attendant was coming up the aisle to be seated when...whoooomp. She was about to become airborne, I grabbed her (or she fell into my arms) and she ended up on my lap. My reflexes are not usually that fast, but that day we were both glad they were. On subsequent flights, I'd joke that I had her back.
The sextant was used on the Apollo spacecraft as a backup! It had 2 computers which each used inertial navigation. These could be recalibrated using a star finder, but if everything failed the sextant was the device of last resort.
what's with all you people saying "he's back!" like he was MIA or something??? You know he wasn't gone, right? He posts a video just about every Sunday. Just like last Sunday.
Great stuff as usual Kelsey. I really wish you would look into a farcically “serious” movie like “Final Descent.” You might have to make 2 episodes because it is so ridiculously made without an aviation consultant. Thanks for your great content. Keep the blue side up!
@@SwirlingSoul I gave up been a Pilot. My life costs more then this pay. Soon after I quit as a Pilot, there was a strike, in São Paulo, Brasil, where I was, trying to be a pilot. Man, Brazil is not a Contry. BOLSONARO is not a President. AND I, AM NOT A PILOT. ONLY A PRIVET ONE
@@FranciscoPereira-px6mu Then you are still lucky. I was 2centimeters too short to make the legal required hight for becoming a pilot in my country. (The Netherlands. I'm 163cm tall.) I chose a different path, but always will LOVE planes and pilots too.
@@SwirlingSoul Why does the Netherlands have this ridiculous rule? 163 isn't even that short, and I'd say such a rule is very sexist as well since many women tend to be around this height.
@@imanuelcaushi4711 Well actually, one has to be able to reach the controls properly, and 165 was their absolute minimum height for the plane I wanted to fly. (Boeing 747-400). These days, you CAN get y our pilots license, even if smaller, but you can't just fly any plane. You'd have to FIT. In hindsight, I'm glad it worked out differently, because 15 years later, I ended up with Crohns disease. Can you imagine? having to go to the bathroom constantly as a pilot?! or having gone through training, and THEN ending up in debt and sick?! I can thankfully see the humor in that now, that I'm not a pilot who needs the bathroom.
Oooh, I felt that wave sensation right before turbulence on our recent flight to SFO to HNL. My mobility-service dog wasn’t phased by either. Which reminds me that my mobility -sd did much better on the *hard* landing (at SFO) than I did. 😂 Kelsey, I used to be into airplanes as a little kid, then I was scared of flying, and now I love (well…) to fly. Your analogy in another video abt how planes are basically on streets (obvi paraphrasing horribly lol) in the sky, kicked my fear away. 🤩Smooth flying since. Thank you! 🙏🏽
The only part that made me laugh during this movie was the airlines motto, "... where we are trying hard to win back your trust". That was halarious and made everyone wonder what happened where the airline had to make this statement? Also you didn't show all the turbulence portion of that movie, that's too bad.
He's going to be very limited with the percentage of the original that he can use for "fair use". I have no idea what this film is or how long it is (especially how much flying time is in the film), so I can't say that's _the_ reason for it being short, but I know other film review sites are extremely cautious about what they use, and more often than not seem to use only images not audio, possibly because it allows them more image time.
Thanks K! I was on a flight that encountered severe turbulence, and a flight attendant in the aisle next to me fell, then rose up (horizontal) and came back down again a little hard, so I reached out and put my hand on her shoulder to pin her down, as did the passenger in the opposite row next to me. We held her there until things stabilized. She thanked us both, brought us whatever we wanted to drink later, and we were thanked by the pilots at the end of the flight. It was just a natural reaction, and it was not my first experience with severe turbulence. Love your videos man.
The wave analogy is a great way of describing turbulence when airborne. I sometimes would describe turbulence to friends as like riding on river rapids. The only commercial airliner that could cruise at 60K was Concorde. Those flight deck visits was one of the main reasons I became an airline pilot.
I remember also Kelsey going to the flight deck in the days of Caledonian Airways. I was so excited it was the one thing i looked forward to the most, probably more than the holiday.😀
I'm born -78 in Sweden, and when I was young a lot of middle class families went on 2-3 vacations to the Canary Islands and so did we. I cant remember how I got invited to the cockpit the first time, I was 6 years old and was absolutely AMAZED to be allowed into the cockpit while in flight. So each year after that I, a tiny kid, always asked the flight attendant immediately after takeoff, or if the captain greeted us when boarding I asked him/her if there was any possibility for me to visit the cockpit while flying and every time, I got invited. I remember the last time I did it, I was 11 (or 12) and the captain asked If I wanted to sit on his lap and "fly the plane". OMG OMG OMG YES!!!! I sat on his lap on the left side of the plane and he explained that we were flying on autopilot so if we turned the plane it would automatically turn back. He told me to grab the controls and turn it to the left, id did, probably a bit to fast too because the whole plane leaned pretty heavy to the left so I immediately let go and it turned back and the crew laughed hysterically. I thanked them and was completely full of adrenaline and wanted to go back and tell my parents. I got escorted back to my seat by an attendant and when approaching, I saw the pitch black looks from my parents, STARING ME DOWN. When I sat down, I got an earful about how they immediately realized that I WAS THE ONE DOING IT and how embarrassing it was to them, because who else would be so fkn dumb to try to take control (me, I would be that dumb, as a kid, boundaries was, well, not respected, one might say I had undiagnosed add). Luckily the flight attendant overheard and corrected them and said the flight crew were the ones asking me to do it. I never took up flying, I'm to dumb to study and have poor eyesight, but I did get my paragliding license so I get to itch the flying nerve a little at least. :)
This is simultaneously so cool and sad at the same time. Cool because you got to go to the cockpit and fly the airplane, sad because of the reaction of your parents :/
@@shiva_689 Thank you. Maybe I worded it wrong, it wasn't like they gave me a super hard time over it even before the attendant intervened, she was part of the conversation the whole time. Maybe I should have left it at "my parents were not impressed".
What he is referring to at the FL600 chapter is called the "coffin corner". The higher you go, the less lift produced by the wings because of the thinner air, so the stall speed goes up. Every wing design has a 'critical mach number' and at the max service ceiling, the speed required to have enough lift for level stable flight is getting close to this critical mach number. In a fast subsonic design, they can go higher, but still limited by the height at which the stall speed is getting too close to Mach 1. The speed of sound decreases as altitude increases, so there's a wall there where you either lose lift and stall, or break the sound barrier, which is very dangerous if not a supersonic design. The U2's speed margin at max altitude can be as small as 5 knots.
I'm not a pilot but I also think thinner air means less oxygen going into the engines and less oxygen means less power for engines. Just like cars have less power in higher altitudes. So thinner air less lift from wings and less power from engines. Correct me if I'm wrong of course. =)
USAF regulations require occupants to wear pressure suits above 50,000 ft where stall and maximum airspeed get really close for aircraft that don't fly Mach.
Miss those days. I remember that too. Got to go in the cockpit as a kid. It was so much fun. Didn't cry once on that flight. So sad how things have changed.
First time flying to the Middle East we hit a stretch of rough air. The flight attendant was sort of nudged my direction by it and she sat on my lap as she lost her balance. She played it off wonderfully and put her arm around my neck and hugged me, and asked if I wanted anything from the galley. It was pretty funny at the time.
I had a similar experience as a kid Kelsey. Even got a sweet set of plastic flight wings! Little things like this leave a big impact on a person's life. I now have my ATP cert and a set of shiny metal wings. It makes me sad that my own kids can't have a similar experience. I hope at least someday when they are older I can teach them to fly.
I remember back in the 80's and 90's the cockpit door opening up too! 9-11 really messed up how we fly! It used to be a big deal going to fly in a plane, now its turned into people of walmart in the sky...
First flight of my life, El Al, Frankfurt to Tel Aviv, I was five and the visit to the flight deck came as a total surprise. Sadly the pilots did not respond to my attempts at striking up a conversation. Memory still clear as day after 45 years.
Turbulence is like a gust of wind to a sailboat. As an experienced sailor, I can tell you what a gust is going to do depending on the feeling and looking at the ripples in the water, so a pilot being able to feel the turbulence coming sounds familiar
I remember flight-deck visits (1970's/80's) but was probably fairly coordinated e.g. cabin crew would escort you. These days, you're lucky to get a glimpse as you come in the front-door at boarding time, before departure and the flight deck door is locked.
I also remember as a kid when we were flying to see relatives in (I think) Idaho at the time or maybe even prior to that and as a kid I was able to go up with others and see the cockpit / Pilots. Felt so cool and amazing! Again, during the 80s or 90s so not something you'd see today, unfortunately.
Lol good video! My son...when he was about 3 years old...was asked if he wanted to go see the cockpit while we were disembarking and were the last ones out. He started screaming nooooooo!! The pilot asked why? He said...because if I fly the plane we're gonna crash! The pilots laughed!
Oh the good ol days. In the 70’s and 80’s pilots were Gods !! I promise I still think you are Kelsey!! They would let us as kids come in the cockpit and I even punched in the destination. Not that they actually used it but it earned me my wings 😍 still amazes me to this day. I absolutely love flying. Thanks Kelsey.
Merchant marine officers in the US are required to know celestial navigation in case the GPS system goes down. Nice video as always Kelsey. On ships there is a master gyro but no inertial navigation system. LORAN and Omega no longer exists.
I flew to the US, from the UK, for a holiday back in 1991, when I was 8 years old. Got the opportunity to go to see the flight deck, like you did! I thought it was the coolest thing ever!! The nerd in me wishes I could do it again, at nearly 40!!
I boarded a flight once and the Cap was greeting us. I said hello and asked what the weather was like up there. He replied, "the flight in here was smooth as glass!" Followed up with "Wait 5 minutes it could change!" I laughed and I jokingly said, "Just mind the potholes up there..." During the flight, he did a PA... "We have some weather coming up here and we'll do our best to 'mind the potholes'." I lost it. I laughed so hard I snorted ginger ale through my nose.
They probably were now revering to the weather spots on the weather radar as potholes from then on. It is a decent analogy. Hitting them is bumpy, avoiding them is smoother.
I know exactly what you're talking about when it comes to feeling turbulence before it happens. I've always thought about it as a floating sensation a moment before turbulence hits.
I have been in some pretty wicked turbulence, but the only time I was really unnerved was coming into ORD in the 80s on Ozark. We were in a Convair. It was night, and it was a little rough, but then the plane dropped like a rock. A few passengers screamed. I don't know how much altitude we actually lost, but it felt like a decent amount. We leveled off and the rest of the approach was uneventful.
Last October 2021 I flew out on a 737 short 50 min flight but the first 6 or so minutes after takeoff, it was so rough, rocking rolling shaking and bumps lol after it smoothed out and everything was calm my seat mate said: I don't remember a takeoff that violent! Lol 😆
Kelsey I took a 18 minute flight From O’Hare to Milwaukee. 7000 foot ceiling plane dancing around loved every minute of it. Oh let me tell some of looks I got when I told the the flight crew that we would have to do the same flight real soon. I love your videos. Keep up the great work.
I had one of those "code brown" emergencies arriving at IAH. I was suffering and using all the pucker power I had. The captain stopped the plane and shut down the engines. Oops! The ground guy stopped us at the wrong mark and the captain used the PA to tell everybody to sit back down while he started one engine to taxi forward about five feet. I thought I'd explode. I was probably twenty-five years younger then and had enough pucker power to keep from embarrassing myself -- I no longer have that kind of power. Take it from me...if a passenger -- you know, a paying customer -- gets into the lav when you don't want anybody to be walking around and going to the potty, sometimes it's a EMERGENCY and he needs to go IMMEDIATELY. You can't fight Mother Nature.
Stay out of the lavatory when the seatbelt sign is on. It doesnt matter if you are puckering. Dont be that fucking guy. Better to shit yourself than break your arm or cause the whole flight to be delayed
I was on a flight a couple of weeks ago and a pax got on and went to the lav while we were still at the gate. I thought that odd but no one said anything. I hadn't flown in a few years so maybe this has been okay all along?
I was fortunate enough to be let into the cockpit in an Ansett airlines A320 in 2000 when I was 6 years old. The end of the era for cockpit visits and for Ansett itself 😥
Love your channel with all the great info. I had the privilege to work on, build 747-400 , worked on it for 10 years .I primarily installed on landing gear but installed vertical fin , rigging. I was in the end transfed to 777 program and retired after 33 years
This is a small thing but the wave comparison to turbulence is the most accurate description I’ve ever heard. Could never find words for it but that’s the best so far. Idk how to explain but yep feels like how it feels when you get picked up by like a churning wave before the air underneath you just goes brrr
Hey kelsey, i Just wanted to say that ur videos help me alot i have a condision named anxiety and your videos help me alot to relax and more so i Just wanted to write a comment and to say thank you. Thanks kelsey😁
Coming outta KSEA heading for KSLC about a quarter of the way we hit sudden unexpected turbulence. Luckily I was strapped in but for a few passengers in front of me they weren’t. I saw something I hoped id never see and that was passengers flying out of their seats literally hitting the top of the ac. For me I hurt my neck but survived without major injury as did the passengers up front, thank god! That was the worst turbulence I’d ever felt as a passenger. Behind the controls is yet another story 😉.
So cool. I remember a pilot bringing me into the cabin and showing the controls at the gate. Also had an Air Force grandpa that died and his buddy took us around the airstrip with my mom( San Jose international ) in a service truck and the tower called down on the radio asking what he was doing. It was very special. Good times. This was in the early 90s. Nice videos Kelsey!
It’s really a great memory for me. As I recall we were driving down the landing strip and there was an incoming flight. The ATC wasn’t happy. Used to and still love aviation.
Your story reminded me of when I was a kid on a klm 747 en route to either uk or South Africa from California. I was drawing a picture for my mom and the flight attendant asked “oh is that for me” and took the picture I was drawing. I was upset, but shy… however she invited me to see the cockpit and it was an unforgettable experience. I’m 31 now and I was probably 6 or 7. 1996 I’m guessing lol.
We had "eyebrow" windows in a 707 variant that I flew, but we also had a sextant port further aft, through the roof. I never heard of the eyebrow windows being used for celestial fixes.
Yeah, they're not for sextant use, but I've heard that said before. One of those urban legends that catch on. The 707 (from which the 727, 737 got their cockpit/fuselage design) was originally designed to be a military aircraft, and my guess is that the military wanted panoramic views.
Eyebrow windows were not used for sextants, they were to give the pilot a view of the runway when turning onto final. Only needed when the captain was turning right onto final, or the FO turning left onto final. It was eventually realized that they were not really all that helpful so they don't install them anymore, which saves a bit of money.
In all my years of flying, I have never seen a young captain and an older co-pilot. And I miss the days when they let you see the flight deck and gave you the little plastic wings you could pin on your shirt.
If you’re looking for a scenario that could lead to an older first officer and younger captain, one example is pilots who do a stint in the Air Force first. A 10year contract in the AF will put a serious dent in a pilot’s seniority when they switch to commercial. And with the way the airlines are actively recruiting young people it could get even more significant. My daughter is being recruited by airlines before she has even officially started college to skip the AF and enter their direct to the airlines program at her university. The program has been around for a while, but with the pilot shortage they are recruiting young people like crazy. It’s interesting to think about the difference in seniority she could have at Delta or United vs if she flew in the Af for 10 or 20 years.
@@samiam619 It's a MOViE??? REALLLLY??? Wow, I sooooo did not know that! Thank you so much for clarifying that it was a movie because I would have never known if not for you.
Been on a few flights where the turbulence was a bit frightening. The shortest was when we were on approach into SFO. We could see the bay waters out the window, but no runway yet, when we suddenly dropped down a bit. It was only two seconds, but those were two scary seconds. The longest was on a 12 hour flight from LAX to IST; we were cruising over Canada when a good 5-10 minutes of turbulence wouldn't stop rocking the plane.
OMG that line of “this guy looks like he’s on his final approach… for life” I died when I heard that 😂, that was savage. Also I think I understand why he went to 60 thousand feet, he got confused and thought he was flying the Concorde 😂
Also when the old guy repeated the statement "I'm glad you went to bat for me" it was a poorly delivered reference to hypoxia which is possible at those altitudes if you don't have oxygen and pressurization fails. Because your brain is starving and is not functioning. There's a channel called Smarter Every Day that covers the topic. It's pretty neat stuff.
@@Colt1775 I took it to be dementia. But I've had very recent experience with an old lady who could not remember what she just said to me 5 minutes previously. She would say the exact same thing again, or ask the exact same question.
Sometimes turbulence can actually drag you upwards. I've heard of gliders getting caught in updrafts and gaining thousands of feet in the time it takes them to escape, and one instance of a super glider designed to try to set some fun altitude world records doing exactly that. I am curious what Kelsey has done in reverse, with random altitude gains he had to dive out of. Admittedly a powered plane has more tools to avoid rising air.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 mountain waves are extremely fun in gliders. But I haven't heard of anyone ever being unable to come back down. I have heard of pilots losing track of their altitude and getting hypoxic. Waves and thermals aren't turbulence though. They just tend to cause turbulence in certain areas.
@@ascherlafayette8572 The Mojave desert is a great place for glider's. The updraft from the Tehachapi Mountains can lift you so fast. My first glider ride was at an airshow at the California City Airport. They we're selling glider ride's. When I was young, I would walk around the hangers looking for someone who was getting ready to fly and ask if I could go flying with them. No, I don't know these people. Yes, I'm a kid, around 10 years old walking around asking stranger's to go flying. Times were simpler when I was a kid.
I'm interested in an answer too. Back in the 70's my mom and I were on a small commercial plane going from Arkansas to Dallas/Fort Worth. Our plane hit turbulence and dropped. I had a cup ofcoke in my hand. As I and the cup dropped, felt like we fell out of the sky to young me, the coke remained at the same elevation until it hit the ceiling of the plane and then dropped all over me. To this day, not having a lid on my drink while flying is anxiety producing.
in my little Single engine airplane, i flew on a nice very sunny day to a iceland, spend the day there. on our way back it became bad in the sky with hidden thunder clouds. I missed the latsest onroute metar's, only my destination and departure. halfway i had a super fast drop from 9000 till 7000ish in my feeling in less then 45 seconds. Super scarry due to it all beeing so fast and your reaction is to pitch the nose up. while the only real solution is to get asap out of it. Now i dont know, does it also happen with bigger planes in such a aggressive way?
Kelsey, I'm really impressed! I never thought of you as much of an impressionist, but that Jimmy Stewart Captain was pretty spot on! That's really all I need to hear to know that I'm in safe hands on a flight. Difference training is overrated!
The weirdest turbulence I experienced was on a 787 flight from Qatar to Austria. Flight was completely smooth and then BANG! It felt like we hit a brick wall at 38,000ft. And then... perfectly smooth. It certainly woke everyone up! No idea what caused that. Possibly wake turbulence from another plane?
Wake turbulence is interesting. It hangs around for a while - usually it descends from where it was produced, but it can be slow to do so. In a small plane, I've crossed my own wake turbulence when doing a 360 degree (2 minute) turn. Just a little bump, but neat to experience. (Whole different story when it's a large, heavy aircraft making the turbulence!)
My first thought when you mentioned the unexpected turbulence on a recent flight was wake turbulence. Maybe crossed another planes wake? I was on a commuter flight from NY to DC back in the 90's. HIt a couple cumulous clouds as we navigated thunder storms and a flight attendant ended up on my lap with me bear hugging here to keep her from flying. Used to fly myself so used to the bumps but still don't love them! Keep up the great work!
My wife was on a flight that was having some rough turbulence. One of the stewardesses sat down in the isle next to my wife and asked if she could hold her hand as she was so scared by the turbulence.
Oh my gosh, while I certainly wouldn’t begrudge a flight attendant needing to sit on my lap during rough turbulence and indeed if it happened when they were close enough to me and lost their balance I’d probably try to grab their arm to try to give them enough time to grab seats or regain their balance… but sitting down next to me and asking to hold my hand because she’s afraid of the turbulence? 😱 I’m a nervous passenger at the best of times and during the few times that I have flown, I’ve looked to the cabin crew to gauge if the flight is normal and safe or not by how they are reacting! If that happened to me we’d probably both end up curled up in the foetal position, rocking back and fourth constantly muttering that we’re going to crash and burn. 😆 But seriously though I’d probably agree and we could swap stories about why flying can be unnerving.
@@mikoto7693 My wife said that she asked her if she was sure she had the right job. The stewardess said she only had the job for two weeks, but she thought she would be OK.
When I was 6 years old, I flew alone from Seattle to San Francisco and got to tour the cockpit,and the Captain pinned some plastic wings on my shirt. The Stewardesses were wonderful too.
I was flying into Denver with my two young boys (Their first airplane trip)in June. The pilot came over the intercom once and announced the possibility of turbulence on approach. 2 minutes later he grabbed his microphone and reiterated that it was gonna be choppy! Never heard a captain 👩✈️ make two announcements before! I pretend to maintain calm as the plane falls what feels like 2000 feet!
Thanks for the video Kelsey. I saw a TV programme about the HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier, and the Captain Jerry Kidd was still teaching the junior officers how to take position sightings using a sextant.
Google verified what I immediately expected, the 747 is not likely to go above about 43,000 feet. So when he said 60,000 feet I knew that really wasn’t possible.
That isn't strictly true. It cannot maintain level flight. This aircraft pitched up and climbed, inevitably the aircraft would fall again, but the speed from lower altitudes can be preserved. It isn't safe in any way, and may well damage/destroy the aircraft but that isn't to say,it isn't possible. Its just a case of trading speed for altitude. I think its safe to say nobody has tried it in a 747 to know the answer to what altitude is possible. A 747 does have a lot of drag, so it would likely depend when the engines flamed out- which would also depend on which engines it had. Its capable of over 800 feet per second and is extremely light due to the short trip. It would have to start lower than service ceiling to get a good angle of attack, but you could convert a good portion of that energy into vertical speed and thus altitude. This is known as a zoom climb. Max certified on a 747 is 45,000, (sp, short version for more range) one important thing to note is that it is limited to that due to fuel tank icing issues i believe, not on power.- there are anecdotal reports of it doing 50-55,000 but that wouldn't be legal of course. So fl 600 is plausible on a 747sp in a zoom climb.
I almost had a code brown a couple of Sundays ago. I was flying my T210 to Waco's TSTC on Sunday and got an unsafe gear at around 200' agl. I had planned on hitting the FBO there, but now I diverted back to Georgetown airport, 30m away. With the gear doors open, the climb performance and cruise speed was below normal. Another plane on my route to the entry of the RNAV approach, and after trying to fly slower than him, the controller prioritized me (mainly due to my speed) and had the other guy do a 360 to let me get ahead of him. Blew the RNAV approach, so did a visual. Although I REALLY wanted to get down, I though it prudent to get a visual indication of the gear down, which I was pretty sure it was and got permission to buzz the tower for them to check my gear. Back into the pattern and around. Beautiful main only landing and rolled out barely touching the nose wheel down and let the roll out most of the way down the runway, meaning a longer taxi back and shutdown. Then having to get to the terminal. Really not sure I was going to make it.
I've been sat in the flight path for Newcastle airport for the last hour and a half watching your videos waiting in the car park at the hospital for my mum time seems to fly by when you're watching these videos
1990s: Hey kids! Everyone run up to the cockpit and check out the controls!
2022: Ma’am. This shampoo is 3.8 ounces. You’re going to need to come with us.
Experienced both of those in my life. First in a 747, still with all the steam gauges and the extra flight engineer. I think later also on a 737 with an early glass cockpit.
Lmfaooo 😂
Totally true,I had to throw away 50 dollars worth of Lemongrass shampoo because the bottles were 3.2 oz.Totally stupid
Sadly a knee jerk regular that didn’t make us any safer
@@calvinbeachy7902 the limit is 3.4 fl oz...
i was flying to a vacation destination as a kid in the late 90's.. i had a small self made book with plane pictures, and some information about the planes like a sort of collection of stuff i had found on magazines and such. i'm not sure if a flight attendant or my parents told someone about my book but i got called into the cockpit.. i got to hang out for couple of mins and the captain singed my book and gave me a pin with wings.. it meant the world to me, i almost cried but managed to hold myself together.. i still have that pin.
Aww that's such a wholesome story!
What a great experience!
It was a magical thing, and yes the wings made for that perfect touch
Nice. But a bit mean of him to singe your book. I guess those were they days when a cigarette lighter might be allowed on board!
@@TesterAnimal1 haha! just noticed... my bad
"He's on his final approach... for life" 🤣
That just made my day, thank you.
P.S
There's one more thing wrong in this movie, there's no "aaa..." while captain is making his PA.
I fly fairly often, and I think more and more pilots are watching Kelsey's videos. They've upped their game with the PA's. I haven't heard the "aaa" in a couple of years. Congratulations, Kelsey! Your videos not only entertain the general public, they're also instructional videos for the pilots!
@@ajs11201 I, unfortunately, was able to fly somewhere for the last time in 2017 so super long time ago, and both pilots from Qatar Airways (Narita➡️Doha➡️Warsaw) were making a lot of "aaaa" 😅 I'm wondering if something now has changed.
@J Hemphill a lot of Qatar Air pilots are from the UK. So, not so much of a foreign language. Arabic being the spoken language in Qatar, but English is also very common, as they used to be a British protectorate.
@@ajs11201 I was thinking the same thing recently! No "aaaa"s from the pilots 🙂 And the last couple of PA's I've heard were so put together they were like read by an actor 😃
Foreal 💯
Many years ago I heard a story about an ATC controller receiving a request for clearance to FL 600 (from an SR-71, as it turned out.) The controller replied, "If you think you can make it up to 60.000 ft, you are cleared." The answer was "Thanks. _Descending_ to FL 600." Do take the validity of the story with an Antonov An-225 worth of salt. :) I have more faith in the story about vertical separation between a Concorde and an SR-71 over the ocean, though.
Whats the story about vertical operation between a concorde and SR-71 over the ocean? Dont think Ive heard it
@@antisoda Little pay out but was still good, thanks
@@awhahoo the story comes from former Air Traffic Controller Peter Clarke. He wrote the following:
Flying between 55,000 to 60,000ft Concorde was above the subsonic jet aircraft. It was given this vertical profile of 5,000ft as the actual altitude the Concorde would level off at depended on the actual temperature on the day. This temperature could also vary during the crossing so the aircraft would adjust altitude accordingly. One or 2 executive jet aircraft could possibly reach 43,000ft on a good day but they were still not a problem to Concorde. On one particular day, however, I did control another aircraft that could more than match Concorde both in speed and altitude, the American military SR-71 Blackbird Mach 3+ spy plane. Sometimes military aircraft crossing the Atlantic would have a reserved route kept clear for them in order for formations of jets to refuel en-route, as necessary, from an accompanying tanker.
The SR-71 had more than sufficient range for the crossing and was operating solo. Although we would control many American subsonic aircraft like the C-141 or C-17 heavy cargo aircraft or maybe even troop carriers on our Track system they would not communicate with our HF radio station near Shannon. Instead they would use an American military HF radio station (Croughton) in Oxfordshire. Like most military units they had a regular change of staff so, generally, the radio operators had very limited experience of the operations they were handling. Keep it simple for them and it was OK. Anything out of the ordinary and it caused much confusion.
I was controlling a westbound Concorde just entering my airspace when I received details of an SR-71 coming eastbound on a route that would conflict with Concorde. The SR-71 did not always fly supersonically, it was doing less than Mach 1 on this day, but it was still at a very high altitude. I had been told it was “above 600”, i.e. above 60,000ft. Concorde was operating up to 60,000ft and the vertical separation standard at that altitude was 4,000ft.
I sent a message to the American radio operator to ask for the exact altitude of the SR-71. A few minutes later the answer came back, “Above 600.”
I telephoned the radio operator explaining I needed the exact altitude. The radio operator’s response was, “I’ll patch you through.” The operator had a facility to operate a 2-way switch on the radio. Push it one way and you could transmit over the telephone, switch it the other way to receive. At the end of each transmission you had to remember to say “Over’ in order for the radio operator to know when to flick the switch.
I was now talking directly to the pilot of the SR-71. “This is the Shanwick controller, confirm your altitude. Over.”
SR-71, “We are above 600. Over”
Me, “I need to know your exact altitude. Over”
SR-71, “Above 600. Over”.
Me, “Am I to understand you are unable to give me your exact altitude? Over”
SR-71, “Affirmative. Over”
(These aircraft had a stealth capability and could fly at very, very high altitude, often above 70,000ft. They did not, however want anyone to know exactly at what altitude they were flying so would switch off their radio signal that would indicate altitude to a radar operator once they climbed.)
Me, “OK, I have a Concorde operating westbound on a conflicting route with you at 60,000ft. I need 4,000ft vertical separation. Do I have it? Over”
SR-71, “You sure have.”
Me, “That’s all I need to know. Thanks. Out”
Descending to 60000 ft?!? Man 😂
Sounds like Brian Schul and Walt Watson
I love that little childhood memory you tossed in there. You really were born to be a pilot.
He's so passionate and enthusiastic and obviously enjoys it
Legend has it he piloted the rest of that flight, and never left the cockpit
I heard of a child who was allowed to sit in the copilot's seat. He was told he could hold the controls. Then the captain relaxed back with his hands behind his head. The boy's knuckles turned white as he told the captain, "But I don't know how to fly." Not realising the autopilot was engaged!
No one is born to be anything my friend. It takes hard work to get to that stage, you don't simply just come out of your momma and 'wow hes going to be a pilot!' or doctor, etc.
Me and my sister actually did exactly what he mentioned back in the 90s. On a flight from South America we were let into the cockpit. Did I become a pilot? Nope, but guess what? I still love planes just as much, as I just chose to go and learn to become a good surgeon and I save lives for a living.
@@BigBirdCEO Just... Sit the hell down. Nobody cares.
Gee, Kelsey, when I was a kid back in the 60's, I remember once when my dad took me on the plane he was flying on (at Stapleton airport in Denver), because in those days, family members could accompany passengers onto the plane to say goodbye (?!). The pilot gave me a full tour of the flight deck, I met the Captain, 1st officer and flight engineer, and the captain even gave me a kid-sized metal wing pin for Eastern Airlines (which I still have). After a few minutes, the head stewardess announced that loading would soon begin, and all non-passengers had to leave the plane. How things have changed!
Did the pilot ask you if you liked gladiator movies?
1967, DEN/Stapleton, Frontier Airlines. It was a different time, sweet memories.
I remember my first flight in an aeroplane- it was that old , Pontius was the Pilot, so I asked him " How often do these 'Planes crash?" He replied " Just the Once !" so I asked him which were the safest seats, to which he replied " Always chose the very back of the aircraft, as we can't back into mountains!"
I remember my first flight, that was so long ago, it was right after they invented air.
Yeah, I'm old enough to have participated in the Great Earth Dirt Delivery Project, so I am indeed older than dirt. ;)
🤣🤣 to both of you!
Now Pontius teaches Pilates. “I wash my hands of your stiff, flabby body.”
Did you ask if the plane can fly supersonic?
Because the answer is the same: once.
You always want to be in the front. In case the plane snaps in half then at least you are with the pilots.
Peep holes at waist height are called glory...you know. When Kelsey talks about the past and open cockpits, my mind goes back to before deregulation, cockpit visits, spacious seating, well dressed travelers, luxury front to back in differing levels, and I get a nostalgia attack. Of course, one cannot deny the excitement of taped up passengers and in flight riots.
I haven't flown for several years, so I haven't had the wonderful experience of passenger temper tantrums. But years ago we had a fun medical emergency while flying from SeaTac to LAX on a Sunday morning. As we approached L.A., the captain informed us there was a lot of traffic and we'd have to wait to land. Meanwhile, a guy in the seat behind us had partied too much the previous night and was feeling it. The flight attendants brought him an oxygen bottle. The pilot declared a medical emergency, dropped the right wing so that we turned just short of downtown L.A., then headed straight in. No holding patterns for us that day! We had an exciting ride, and the ailing passenger turned out OK.
visited a lot of glory holes in your day, huh
I love the story about your first trip to a flight deck. I hope the world changes so that other little kids can have the same experience someday!
never going to happen
It can still happen on the ground. A few years ago when we were boarding in Baltimore, the pilot saw us coming and and asked if our son would like to checkout the cockpit. He was in there through the whole boarding process and they let him make the preflight announcements.
when i was about 4, in 2004/5 there was a delay and the pilot let some parents with kids come and see the cockpit, when i got there my dad asked how long have they been pilots and one of them said it was their first ever commercial flight, my mum wasnt a fan of flying so we kept that a secret from her aha
@@robbiegillibrand3892 Maybe they were joking about their first flight. If I was a pilot I would tell people I have never flown before just to freak them out. That's probably why they don't let me be a pilot. :)
when i was in the army in 1999 i got to sit infront of the doors or hanging cloth behind the pilots.. a dehavillan dash 7.. the plane was overbooked.. different times.. just before x-mas that year..
@6:00 hey Kelsey, did you ever get to meet one of those pilots as a pilot and go: "hey remember that kid in the flight deck bombarding you with questions in the 80s, I'm all grown up now!"
"....and I fly the Queen!"😂
😂😂😂😂
Kelsey, your videos have really helped me mentally prepare for a trip with connecting flights I was really anxious about, since I haven't flown in about 7 years. On my way back home yesterday, I was actually able to sit back and enjoy both flights, even being a bit excited about it. So just wanted to say thank you! I always enjoy your videos, keep them coming
Talking about cockpit door being open in the "old" days - my first flight was a very long time ago, and it was on a DC3. It was a regional flight. I remember that if there was a door, it certainly was not used and being a small aircraft it was easy to watch the pilots, and instead of using an intercom, the pilot merely yelled over his shoulder to passengers and the attendant. And when the pilot wanted us to see something he just dipped the wing to make it easier to see. My second flight was the connecting international flight, and that was on a 707. It felt so space age back in the 1960's and that feeling of the engines spooling up for takeoff is far quieter in modern aircraft, but the love of that feeling has never left me. And I have never forgotten that DC3 pilot talking us through the flight.
Speaking of how it was in the actual old days the first commercial crash was two planes cashing into each other because they were too focused on looking at the road to navigate
I remember being on a flight as a kid back in the late 80s or early 90s, either a 727 or an MD-80, and the pilot announced a planned cruising altitude of 42,000 feet. The only reason I remember it is because my father--a lifelong private pilot and flight enthusiast--went wide-eyed and let out a muffled "holy %$#@," and my mother shot him the stink-eye.
I'm thinking it would've been a 727. I believe the 727 has a service ceiling of 42,000 feet, while the MD-80 is limited to 37,000.
Then how would you be fucking alive
@@slenderbestgamer9505 How long ago do you think the late 80s/early 90s were? I know a lot of people who were children back then.
@@CH-nb9yy I was a child in the early 80's. Battlestar galactica, Space 1999... great times.
Just flew from LHR to ORD a few days ago on a BA Dreamliner, we were cruising at 40,000 feet. According to a quick google search the service ceiling for the plane is 43,100 feet .. impressive. The A380 nearly the same.
I must admit I laughed way too hard at the "his final approach for life" line. Also hollywood cockpits are like twice the size of regular cockpits from what I have noticed.
Also the cabins have really wide aisles....
@@COPKALA yeah, they get A LOT of aviation stuff wrong. Take flightplan, for example. There is so much wrong with that movie that I don't even know where to begin.
Yes a 737 . Getting out of the seat .. is refered to as giving birth.
@@mrxmry3264 you think they get aviation stuff wrong. Try being a gun enthusiast and watching a movie lol
@@KleinHeister or working explosives and rockets and watching action movies 😂
5:32 LOL, I can just picture you as a kid, rushing to be first to the cockpit. Such a wonderful memory for you!👍🏻😀🛩👨🏼✈️
Being a military brat, I started traveling by air from a very young age. I also got several sets of wings, those little things you pin on your shirt, TWA and Pan Am!!! Those were the days!!
That pilot must have sensed the turbulence too.. he grabbed on to something
In 2000 a few families including mine went to Mexico on the way there this happened to me the pilot actually brought me and two of my friends (who were 10-9-8 years old) into the cockpit and showed us how everything worked and it was one of the most amazing experiences I’ve ever had. To bad that will never be allowed again.
Even as an adult I sort of regret that despite being a nervous flyer, I’m fairly certain that my curiosity would enable me to forget to be nervous for awhile.
lol a few years ago i was allowed in even thougj 9/11
Had the opportunity to sit in the jump seat on a sunset landing at the old Hong Kong airport. They gave me a headset and told me to be quiet. What a surreal experience.
cool
Landing and taking off in old Kai tak airport is really something, people don't realize it that much from a passenger perspective, but from a pilot perspective, its..... well I wish to relive that, only in flight sims these day.
Hi Kelsey, those eyebrow windows were NOT for the navigation by using sextants to measure the elevation ange of stars. Sextants were put through a special small round port at the top of the cockpit - behind the pilot's seats. Eyebrow windows were for visual sighting for the pilots when the aircraft were in a banked attitude and the pilos had to see the runway when flying a visual circuit - to judge their position for turning base or during the turn from base to final.
Good man...I was waiting for someone to point out his mistake. I'm flying 25 years now and I only found out that small niche of trivia, even though I've actually worked on 733's & 34's with them. Very few pilots actually know that info.
I second that wholeheartedly! I was a USAF navigator on C-141s and C-5s decades ago. Those aircraft were built with ports and mounts in the cockpit ceilings for extension of periscopic sextants. Of course we used them for celestial navigation (GPS and INS weren’t available), but there was a nifty housekeeping use for the ports too. We could mount a long hose to the port and use the external rushing air to vacuum the cockpit.
These ports are Astrodomes right? Or similar?
I’ve seen on some British Second World War bombers that they’re situated often behind the main glass of the cockpit, within easy reach of the navigator’s position (A navigator often having an area he can black out with a curtain and attend charts and maps with a lamp)
@@eagleclaw899 The only similarity to astrodomes is that the ports and the mounts are fixtures in the cockpit ceiling. The sextant used is not handheld. It is attached to the ceiling via the mount and has a barrel that extends through the port so that the navigator can periscopically observe the heavens via special optics. A blackout curtain is not necessary.
I agree with Ernst. The eyebrows are not for navigation.
Kelsey you really have excited the aviation enthusiast within me and i am so so grateful to you for that !! who else agrees with me ?
I find the videos both entertaining and informative, as I had no interest in aviation until recently when I saw a livestream of planes coming in to land during the brutal crosswinds duration storm Eunice at Heathrow by BigJet tv. Not only were the pilots really having trouble keeping the planes level enough for landing-and having an astonishing number of go arounds, but they were flying diagonally.
I had no idea planes could even do that, let alone deliberately. So I did a couple searches on TH-cam, read a few basic concepts regarding how aircraft actually fly and promptly tumbled down the rabbit hole. 😁 The irony is that I don’t actually like flying because it both makes me nervous and has some odd moments of a feeling very much like vertigo at certain times during flights.
When I was a toddler, around 1997ish they still allowed kids to see the cockpit. Ever since 9/11 and the advent of social media technology, we've been distancing ourselves increasingly from one another. Before 2008, we had alot of manufacturing jobs too. I really do miss that era. Hard to accept that it'll never come back.
Welcome to the Age of Paranoia. 😢
Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither. Maybe one day politics will not be ruled by panic and emotion, but a measured proportional response to threat. Nobody asked for it. Most people hate it. If it varied from airline to airline people could vote with their feet. But no. You must be insulated from all risks.
I do appreciate they took smoking off, but i would appreciate better air quality.
The truth is the radiation exposure from air travel probably kills more people than the hijackings and terror did at its height. Good luck finding protection there.
Airlines *could* provide their own security, and it would be a lot better - they have a billion dollars worth of investment to protect, after all. But why bother, when you can get the taxpayer to pay for your "security?"
Airport security is like the gun control debate. While I understand the need for security and vigilance, those terrorists were just bad actors. But because someone took advantage of the system, copycat criminals will try to do the same. It's a matter of balancing the extra security, and ensuring our technology is up-to-date.
Turbulence : 1975-76-ish I was on a flight when an announcement was made about turbulence. A lead flight attendant was coming up the aisle to be seated when...whoooomp. She was about to become airborne, I grabbed her (or she fell into my arms) and she ended up on my lap. My reflexes are not usually that fast, but that day we were both glad they were. On subsequent flights, I'd joke that I had her back.
The sextant was used on the Apollo spacecraft as a backup! It had 2 computers which each used inertial navigation. These could be recalibrated using a star finder, but if everything failed the sextant was the device of last resort.
Yay the legend, Kelsey, is BACK!
what's with all you people saying "he's back!" like he was MIA or something??? You know he wasn't gone, right? He posts a video just about every Sunday. Just like last Sunday.
@@srobak it's been a long week though 😄
I love the explanation of 'the wave'...makes sense! Have a great week everyone!
Great stuff as usual Kelsey. I really wish you would look into a farcically “serious” movie like “Final Descent.” You might have to make 2 episodes because it is so ridiculously made without an aviation consultant. Thanks for your great content. Keep the blue side up!
I too loved final descent! They did manage an exciting movie though ;-)
@@SwirlingSoul I gave up been a Pilot. My life costs more then this pay. Soon after I quit as a Pilot, there was a strike, in São Paulo, Brasil, where I was, trying to be a pilot. Man, Brazil is not a Contry. BOLSONARO is not a President. AND I, AM NOT A PILOT. ONLY A PRIVET ONE
@@FranciscoPereira-px6mu Then you are still lucky. I was 2centimeters too short to make the legal required hight for becoming a pilot in my country. (The Netherlands. I'm 163cm tall.) I chose a different path, but always will LOVE planes and pilots too.
@@SwirlingSoul Why does the Netherlands have this ridiculous rule? 163 isn't even that short, and I'd say such a rule is very sexist as well since many women tend to be around this height.
@@imanuelcaushi4711 Well actually, one has to be able to reach the controls properly, and 165 was their absolute minimum height for the plane I wanted to fly. (Boeing 747-400). These days, you CAN get y our pilots license, even if smaller, but you can't just fly any plane. You'd have to FIT. In hindsight, I'm glad it worked out differently, because 15 years later, I ended up with Crohns disease. Can you imagine? having to go to the bathroom constantly as a pilot?! or having gone through training, and THEN ending up in debt and sick?!
I can thankfully see the humor in that now, that I'm not a pilot who needs the bathroom.
Oooh, I felt that wave sensation right before turbulence on our recent flight to SFO to HNL. My mobility-service dog wasn’t phased by either. Which reminds me that my mobility -sd did much better on the *hard* landing (at SFO) than I did. 😂
Kelsey, I used to be into airplanes as a little kid, then I was scared of flying, and now I love (well…) to fly. Your analogy in another video abt how planes are basically on streets (obvi paraphrasing horribly lol) in the sky, kicked my fear away. 🤩Smooth flying since. Thank you! 🙏🏽
The only part that made me laugh during this movie was the airlines motto, "... where we are trying hard to win back your trust". That was halarious and made everyone wonder what happened where the airline had to make this statement? Also you didn't show all the turbulence portion of that movie, that's too bad.
He's going to be very limited with the percentage of the original that he can use for "fair use". I have no idea what this film is or how long it is (especially how much flying time is in the film), so I can't say that's _the_ reason for it being short, but I know other film review sites are extremely cautious about what they use, and more often than not seem to use only images not audio, possibly because it allows them more image time.
@@y_fam_goeglyd It's the new Vacation movie. Not great but ok I guess.
Went right by me. Thank you.
They pulled a United
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.
LOL. Vacation, the flying scenes might not have been accurate, but the Korean GPS was totally spot on!
Thanks K! I was on a flight that encountered severe turbulence, and a flight attendant in the aisle next to me fell, then rose up (horizontal) and came back down again a little hard, so I reached out and put my hand on her shoulder to pin her down, as did the passenger in the opposite row next to me. We held her there until things stabilized. She thanked us both, brought us whatever we wanted to drink later, and we were thanked by the pilots at the end of the flight. It was just a natural reaction, and it was not my first experience with severe turbulence. Love your videos man.
what a weird thing to lie about
@@kingti85 You were on the same flight?
Yeah I saw her fall onto her back and you and that other dude each grabbed a boob with one hand and high fived with the other
Y'all are sick
@@kingti85 I doubt you have the money to fly. You certainly don't have the intelligence.
aww, that story of you as a kid going up to the flight deck was great, really shows you were destined to be a pilot from the start!
The wave analogy is a great way of describing turbulence when airborne. I sometimes would describe turbulence to friends as like riding on river rapids. The only commercial airliner that could cruise at 60K was Concorde. Those flight deck visits was one of the main reasons I became an airline pilot.
Thanks for entertaining me for another day, Kelsey!! Awesome!! 💖✈✈💖
I remember also Kelsey going to the flight deck in the days of Caledonian Airways. I was so excited it was the one thing i looked forward to the most, probably more than the holiday.😀
I'm born -78 in Sweden, and when I was young a lot of middle class families went on 2-3 vacations to the Canary Islands and so did we. I cant remember how I got invited to the cockpit the first time, I was 6 years old and was absolutely AMAZED to be allowed into the cockpit while in flight. So each year after that I, a tiny kid, always asked the flight attendant immediately after takeoff, or if the captain greeted us when boarding I asked him/her if there was any possibility for me to visit the cockpit while flying and every time, I got invited.
I remember the last time I did it, I was 11 (or 12) and the captain asked If I wanted to sit on his lap and "fly the plane". OMG OMG OMG YES!!!! I sat on his lap on the left side of the plane and he explained that we were flying on autopilot so if we turned the plane it would automatically turn back. He told me to grab the controls and turn it to the left, id did, probably a bit to fast too because the whole plane leaned pretty heavy to the left so I immediately let go and it turned back and the crew laughed hysterically.
I thanked them and was completely full of adrenaline and wanted to go back and tell my parents. I got escorted back to my seat by an attendant and when approaching, I saw the pitch black looks from my parents, STARING ME DOWN. When I sat down, I got an earful about how they immediately realized that I WAS THE ONE DOING IT and how embarrassing it was to them, because who else would be so fkn dumb to try to take control (me, I would be that dumb, as a kid, boundaries was, well, not respected, one might say I had undiagnosed add).
Luckily the flight attendant overheard and corrected them and said the flight crew were the ones asking me to do it.
I never took up flying, I'm to dumb to study and have poor eyesight, but I did get my paragliding license so I get to itch the flying nerve a little at least. :)
OMG so Swedish parents! Made me laugh! Ofc they were upset and embarassed that you tried flying the plane, not impressed :).
A plane in Russia crashed because some pilot let his kid do exactly this and the autopilot disconnected. This is irresponsible to the extreme
This is simultaneously so cool and sad at the same time. Cool because you got to go to the cockpit and fly the airplane, sad because of the reaction of your parents :/
@@shiva_689 Thank you. Maybe I worded it wrong, it wasn't like they gave me a super hard time over it even before the attendant intervened, she was part of the conversation the whole time. Maybe I should have left it at "my parents were not impressed".
bahhaa
What he is referring to at the FL600 chapter is called the "coffin corner". The higher you go, the less lift produced by the wings because of the thinner air, so the stall speed goes up. Every wing design has a 'critical mach number' and at the max service ceiling, the speed required to have enough lift for level stable flight is getting close to this critical mach number. In a fast subsonic design, they can go higher, but still limited by the height at which the stall speed is getting too close to Mach 1. The speed of sound decreases as altitude increases, so there's a wall there where you either lose lift and stall, or break the sound barrier, which is very dangerous if not a supersonic design. The U2's speed margin at max altitude can be as small as 5 knots.
I'm not a pilot but I also think thinner air means less oxygen going into the engines and less oxygen means less power for engines. Just like cars have less power in higher altitudes. So thinner air less lift from wings and less power from engines. Correct me if I'm wrong of course. =)
My life has been so crazy and I haven't been able to watch but I am today and I realized how much I missed you ..hope you're doing well... God bless
USAF regulations require occupants to wear pressure suits above 50,000 ft where stall and maximum airspeed get really close for aircraft that don't fly Mach.
Is it the coffin corner scenario?
Miss those days. I remember that too. Got to go in the cockpit as a kid. It was so much fun. Didn't cry once on that flight. So sad how things have changed.
First time flying to the Middle East we hit a stretch of rough air. The flight attendant was sort of nudged my direction by it and she sat on my lap as she lost her balance. She played it off wonderfully and put her arm around my neck and hugged me, and asked if I wanted anything from the galley. It was pretty funny at the time.
Did you hit it?
@@Dad-979 lol
Did you join the mile high club??
A sign from the gods
You married her, right?
I had a similar experience as a kid Kelsey. Even got a sweet set of plastic flight wings! Little things like this leave a big impact on a person's life. I now have my ATP cert and a set of shiny metal wings. It makes me sad that my own kids can't have a similar experience. I hope at least someday when they are older I can teach them to fly.
I remember back in the 80's and 90's the cockpit door opening up too! 9-11 really messed up how we fly! It used to be a big deal going to fly in a plane, now its turned into people of walmart in the sky...
Thanks, Kelsey, for another great uuuuuuuh... entertaining video!
First flight of my life, El Al, Frankfurt to Tel Aviv, I was five and the visit to the flight deck came as a total surprise. Sadly the pilots did not respond to my attempts at striking up a conversation. Memory still clear as day after 45 years.
As an A&P I like your channel. I watch your vids from time to time.
Turbulence is like a gust of wind to a sailboat. As an experienced sailor, I can tell you what a gust is going to do depending on the feeling and looking at the ripples in the water, so a pilot being able to feel the turbulence coming sounds familiar
I remember flight-deck visits (1970's/80's) but was probably fairly coordinated e.g. cabin crew would escort you. These days, you're lucky to get a glimpse as you come in the front-door at boarding time, before departure and the flight deck door is locked.
This cockpit is all over the place. I saw a 727 APU panel, 727 Engine Gauges, 737-200 Thrust levers and what looks to be a 737ng yoke.
They probably didn't have enough time and enough movie props to feature a greater variety of cockpits...
Really great video kelsey. Looking forward to it every week!
I also remember as a kid when we were flying to see relatives in (I think) Idaho at the time or maybe even prior to that and as a kid I was able to go up with others and see the cockpit / Pilots. Felt so cool and amazing! Again, during the 80s or 90s so not something you'd see today, unfortunately.
Lol good video! My son...when he was about 3 years old...was asked if he wanted to go see the cockpit while we were disembarking and were the last ones out. He started screaming nooooooo!! The pilot asked why? He said...because if I fly the plane we're gonna crash! The pilots laughed!
So if the captains name is Tom and he is looking through that hole he basically is a peeping Tom.
Unless you're his mother. Then he's a "Peeping Thomas". He hates that.
🤣🤣
Oh the good ol days. In the 70’s and 80’s pilots were Gods !! I promise I still think you are Kelsey!! They would let us as kids come in the cockpit and I even punched in the destination. Not that they actually used it but it earned me my wings 😍 still amazes me to this day. I absolutely love flying. Thanks Kelsey.
Merchant marine officers in the US are required to know celestial navigation in case the GPS system goes down. Nice video as always Kelsey. On ships there is a master gyro but no inertial navigation system. LORAN and Omega no longer exists.
It would be over 6000 ft a minute climb. That would keep the Pilots hands on the passenger for a minute or two...
Honestly it makes no sense that LORAN would stop being a thing, since GPS could go down fairly easily
I flew to the US, from the UK, for a holiday back in 1991, when I was 8 years old. Got the opportunity to go to see the flight deck, like you did! I thought it was the coolest thing ever!! The nerd in me wishes I could do it again, at nearly 40!!
I boarded a flight once and the Cap was greeting us. I said hello and asked what the weather was like up there. He replied, "the flight in here was smooth as glass!" Followed up with "Wait 5 minutes it could change!" I laughed and I jokingly said, "Just mind the potholes up there..." During the flight, he did a PA... "We have some weather coming up here and we'll do our best to 'mind the potholes'." I lost it. I laughed so hard I snorted ginger ale through my nose.
They probably were now revering to the weather spots on the weather radar as potholes from then on. It is a decent analogy. Hitting them is bumpy, avoiding them is smoother.
@@mandowarrior123 Yes!
I've sometimes likened flying a small plane to driving a bus over an unpaved parking lot. Some days....
LOL
I know exactly what you're talking about when it comes to feeling turbulence before it happens. I've always thought about it as a floating sensation a moment before turbulence hits.
I have been in some pretty wicked turbulence, but the only time I was really unnerved was coming into ORD in the 80s on Ozark. We were in a Convair. It was night, and it was a little rough, but then the plane dropped like a rock. A few passengers screamed. I don't know how much altitude we actually lost, but it felt like a decent amount. We leveled off and the rest of the approach was uneventful.
I remember Ozark. Had a Mallard duck on the tail. LAX-ORD-Peoria.
Last October 2021 I flew out on a 737 short 50 min flight but the first 6 or so minutes after takeoff, it was so rough, rocking rolling shaking and bumps lol after it smoothed out and everything was calm my seat mate said: I don't remember a takeoff that violent! Lol 😆
Kelsey I took a 18 minute flight From O’Hare to Milwaukee. 7000 foot ceiling plane dancing around loved every minute of it. Oh let me tell some of looks I got when I told the the flight crew that we would have to do the same flight real soon. I love your videos. Keep up the great work.
I had one of those "code brown" emergencies arriving at IAH. I was suffering and using all the pucker power I had. The captain stopped the plane and shut down the engines. Oops! The ground guy stopped us at the wrong mark and the captain used the PA to tell everybody to sit back down while he started one engine to taxi forward about five feet. I thought I'd explode. I was probably twenty-five years younger then and had enough pucker power to keep from embarrassing myself -- I no longer have that kind of power. Take it from me...if a passenger -- you know, a paying customer -- gets into the lav when you don't want anybody to be walking around and going to the potty, sometimes it's a EMERGENCY and he needs to go IMMEDIATELY. You can't fight Mother Nature.
Pucker Power is a great term. If only I had enough last night.
Stay out of the lavatory when the seatbelt sign is on. It doesnt matter if you are puckering. Dont be that fucking guy. Better to shit yourself than break your arm or cause the whole flight to be delayed
@@johnhammond9962 yeah really.... I'm even scared to cough these days 😂😔
I was on a flight a couple of weeks ago and a pax got on and went to the lav while we were still at the gate. I thought that odd but no one said anything. I hadn't flown in a few years so maybe this has been okay all along?
I was fortunate enough to be let into the cockpit in an Ansett airlines A320 in 2000 when I was 6 years old. The end of the era for cockpit visits and for Ansett itself 😥
Kelsey, do you ever say for no reason at all, "Ladies and gentlemen, please remain calm. There is every indication we will survive this flight."
"The wings are not on fire."
Unfortunately... Some people do take offense for jokes this day.
I also think his airlines not going to appreciate that. :)
Love your channel with all the great info. I had the privilege to work on, build 747-400 , worked on it for 10 years .I primarily installed on landing gear but installed vertical fin , rigging. I was in the end transfed to 777 program and retired after 33 years
Pilot flying and climbing to 60,000 feet... A former Concorde pilot?
This is a small thing but the wave comparison to turbulence is the most accurate description I’ve ever heard. Could never find words for it but that’s the best so far. Idk how to explain but yep feels like how it feels when you get picked up by like a churning wave before the air underneath you just goes brrr
4:17 That's EXACTLY how I picture Kelsey approaching passengers for some small talk 😄
Hey kelsey, i Just wanted to say that ur videos help me alot i have a condision named anxiety and your videos help me alot to relax and more so i Just wanted to write a comment and to say thank you.
Thanks kelsey😁
1:28 LMAOOO that was a great one hahaha
....for life! 😂
That killed me xD did not expect Kelsey to say such a thing
Lmao
@luxplanes sup
Thanks for the all great entertainment man.
Coming outta KSEA heading for KSLC about a quarter of the way we hit sudden unexpected turbulence. Luckily I was strapped in but for a few passengers in front of me they weren’t. I saw something I hoped id never see and that was passengers flying out of their seats literally hitting the top of the ac. For me I hurt my neck but survived without major injury as did the passengers up front, thank god! That was the worst turbulence I’d ever felt as a passenger. Behind the controls is yet another story 😉.
So cool. I remember a pilot bringing me into the cabin and showing the controls at the gate. Also had an Air Force grandpa that died and his buddy took us around the airstrip with my mom( San Jose international ) in a service truck and the tower called down on the radio asking what he was doing. It was very special. Good times. This was in the early 90s. Nice videos Kelsey!
It’s really a great memory for me. As I recall we were driving down the landing strip and there was an incoming flight. The ATC wasn’t happy. Used to and still love aviation.
Your story reminded me of when I was a kid on a klm 747 en route to either uk or South Africa from California. I was drawing a picture for my mom and the flight attendant asked “oh is that for me” and took the picture I was drawing. I was upset, but shy… however she invited me to see the cockpit and it was an unforgettable experience. I’m 31 now and I was probably 6 or 7. 1996 I’m guessing lol.
KELSEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WE LOVE YOU IN NEW YORK , KEEP UP THE AMAZING , AND OFTEN FUNNY , WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine even getting to 36000 feet on an 18 minute flight
I remember going up to see the flight deck as a little kid. Made my week! :D
We had "eyebrow" windows in a 707 variant that I flew, but we also had a sextant port further aft, through the roof. I never heard of the eyebrow windows being used for celestial fixes.
Yeah, they're not for sextant use, but I've heard that said before. One of those urban legends that catch on. The 707 (from which the 727, 737 got their cockpit/fuselage design) was originally designed to be a military aircraft, and my guess is that the military wanted panoramic views.
@@SteichenFamily Good answer!
Eyebrow windows were not used for sextants, they were to give the pilot a view of the runway when turning onto final. Only needed when the captain was turning right onto final, or the FO turning left onto final. It was eventually realized that they were not really all that helpful so they don't install them anymore, which saves a bit of money.
@@StevePemberton2 They were also helpful during in-flight refueling.
I love it when you teach us new and interesting facts.
In all my years of flying, I have never seen a young captain and an older co-pilot. And I miss the days when they let you see the flight deck and gave you the little plastic wings you could pin on your shirt.
It’s a MOVIE!
If you’re looking for a scenario that could lead to an older first officer and younger captain, one example is pilots who do a stint in the Air Force first. A 10year contract in the AF will put a serious dent in a pilot’s seniority when they switch to commercial. And with the way the airlines are actively recruiting young people it could get even more significant. My daughter is being recruited by airlines before she has even officially started college to skip the AF and enter their direct to the airlines program at her university. The program has been around for a while, but with the pilot shortage they are recruiting young people like crazy. It’s interesting to think about the difference in seniority she could have at Delta or United vs if she flew in the Af for 10 or 20 years.
I still have my ValuJet wings I got as a kid.
@@samiam619 It's a MOViE??? REALLLLY??? Wow, I sooooo did not know that! Thank you so much for clarifying that it was a movie because I would have never known if not for you.
@@jahbern Interesting. now I know what gives if I ever see it in actual practice.
Yep. I remember being a kid and getting to see in the cockpit while we were flying. It was a better time!
everyting was better before the islamists.
Been on a few flights where the turbulence was a bit frightening. The shortest was when we were on approach into SFO. We could see the bay waters out the window, but no runway yet, when we suddenly dropped down a bit. It was only two seconds, but those were two scary seconds. The longest was on a 12 hour flight from LAX to IST; we were cruising over Canada when a good 5-10 minutes of turbulence wouldn't stop rocking the plane.
This was both hilarious and informative, good one Kelsey!
OMG that line of “this guy looks like he’s on his final approach… for life” I died when I heard that 😂, that was savage. Also I think I understand why he went to 60 thousand feet, he got confused and thought he was flying the Concorde 😂
Also when the old guy repeated the statement "I'm glad you went to bat for me" it was a poorly delivered reference to hypoxia which is possible at those altitudes if you don't have oxygen and pressurization fails. Because your brain is starving and is not functioning.
There's a channel called Smarter Every Day that covers the topic. It's pretty neat stuff.
@@Colt1775 no, he is senile, he has dementia.
@@Colt1775 I took it to be dementia. But I've had very recent experience with an old lady who could not remember what she just said to me 5 minutes previously. She would say the exact same thing again, or ask the exact same question.
I remember going into the cockpit as a child. Absolutely awesome experience!
Kelsey, what is the greatest "drop" in altitude that you have ever seen when encountering turbulence? What is a typical amount of loss of altitude?
Sometimes turbulence can actually drag you upwards.
I've heard of gliders getting caught in updrafts and gaining thousands of feet in the time it takes them to escape, and one instance of a super glider designed to try to set some fun altitude world records doing exactly that.
I am curious what Kelsey has done in reverse, with random altitude gains he had to dive out of. Admittedly a powered plane has more tools to avoid rising air.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 mountain waves are extremely fun in gliders. But I haven't heard of anyone ever being unable to come back down. I have heard of pilots losing track of their altitude and getting hypoxic.
Waves and thermals aren't turbulence though. They just tend to cause turbulence in certain areas.
@@ascherlafayette8572
The Mojave desert is a great place for glider's.
The updraft from the Tehachapi Mountains can lift you so fast.
My first glider ride was at an airshow at the California City Airport. They we're selling glider ride's.
When I was young, I would walk around the hangers looking for someone who was getting ready to fly and ask if I could go flying with them.
No, I don't know these people. Yes, I'm a kid, around 10 years old walking around asking stranger's to go flying.
Times were simpler when I was a kid.
I'm interested in an answer too. Back in the 70's my mom and I were on a small commercial plane going from Arkansas to Dallas/Fort Worth. Our plane hit turbulence and dropped. I had a cup ofcoke in my hand. As I and the cup dropped, felt like we fell out of the sky to young me, the coke remained at the same elevation until it hit the ceiling of the plane and then dropped all over me. To this day, not having a lid on my drink while flying is anxiety producing.
in my little Single engine airplane, i flew on a nice very sunny day to a iceland, spend the day there. on our way back it became bad in the sky with hidden thunder clouds.
I missed the latsest onroute metar's, only my destination and departure. halfway i had a super fast drop from 9000 till 7000ish in my feeling in less then 45 seconds. Super scarry due to it all beeing so fast and your reaction is to pitch the nose up. while the only real solution is to get asap out of it.
Now i dont know, does it also happen with bigger planes in such a aggressive way?
Kelsey, I'm really impressed! I never thought of you as much of an impressionist, but that Jimmy Stewart Captain was pretty spot on! That's really all I need to hear to know that I'm in safe hands on a flight. Difference training is overrated!
The weirdest turbulence I experienced was on a 787 flight from Qatar to Austria. Flight was completely smooth and then BANG! It felt like we hit a brick wall at 38,000ft. And then... perfectly smooth. It certainly woke everyone up! No idea what caused that. Possibly wake turbulence from another plane?
Yeah I have had that happen. The worst are downdrafts. I don't mind shaking but I will never get uses to sudden loss of altitude
Wake turbulence is interesting. It hangs around for a while - usually it descends from where it was produced, but it can be slow to do so.
In a small plane, I've crossed my own wake turbulence when doing a 360 degree (2 minute) turn. Just a little bump, but neat to experience. (Whole different story when it's a large, heavy aircraft making the turbulence!)
I probably one of those people who request your opinion regarding on Vacation movie so thank you, love the movie, it’s brilliantly hilarious 🤣
He’s on his final approach for …… life. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😊
My first thought when you mentioned the unexpected turbulence on a recent flight was wake turbulence. Maybe crossed another planes wake?
I was on a commuter flight from NY to DC back in the 90's. HIt a couple cumulous clouds as we navigated thunder storms and a flight attendant ended up on my lap with me bear hugging here to keep her from flying. Used to fly myself so used to the bumps but still don't love them!
Keep up the great work!
My kids were utterly shocked when we were talking few weeks ago about visiting the cockpit , literally aghast 😂
I can remember being a kid, getting to go up and look at the cockpit and coming back with a little pair of plastic silver wings!!! Great memory!
My wife was on a flight that was having some rough turbulence. One of the stewardesses sat down in the isle next to my wife and asked if she could hold her hand as she was so scared by the turbulence.
Oh my gosh, while I certainly wouldn’t begrudge a flight attendant needing to sit on my lap during rough turbulence and indeed if it happened when they were close enough to me and lost their balance I’d probably try to grab their arm to try to give them enough time to grab seats or regain their balance… but sitting down next to me and asking to hold my hand because she’s afraid of the turbulence? 😱 I’m a nervous passenger at the best of times and during the few times that I have flown, I’ve looked to the cabin crew to gauge if the flight is normal and safe or not by how they are reacting!
If that happened to me we’d probably both end up curled up in the foetal position, rocking back and fourth constantly muttering that we’re going to crash and burn. 😆 But seriously though I’d probably agree and we could swap stories about why flying can be unnerving.
@@mikoto7693 My wife said that she asked her if she was sure she had the right job. The stewardess said she only had the job for two weeks, but she thought she would be OK.
When I was 6 years old, I flew alone from Seattle to San Francisco and got to tour the cockpit,and the Captain pinned some plastic wings on my shirt. The Stewardesses were wonderful too.
I was flying into Denver with my two young boys (Their first airplane trip)in June. The pilot came over the intercom once and announced the possibility of turbulence on approach. 2 minutes later he grabbed his microphone and reiterated that it was gonna be choppy! Never heard a captain 👩✈️ make two announcements before! I pretend to maintain calm as the plane falls what feels like 2000 feet!
Thanks for the video Kelsey. I saw a TV programme about the HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier, and the Captain Jerry Kidd was still teaching the junior officers how to take position sightings using a sextant.
Google verified what I immediately expected, the 747 is not likely to go above about 43,000 feet. So when he said 60,000 feet I knew that really wasn’t possible.
That isn't strictly true. It cannot maintain level flight. This aircraft pitched up and climbed, inevitably the aircraft would fall again, but the speed from lower altitudes can be preserved. It isn't safe in any way, and may well damage/destroy the aircraft but that isn't to say,it isn't possible. Its just a case of trading speed for altitude. I think its safe to say nobody has tried it in a 747 to know the answer to what altitude is possible. A 747 does have a lot of drag, so it would likely depend when the engines flamed out- which would also depend on which engines it had. Its capable of over 800 feet per second and is extremely light due to the short trip. It would have to start lower than service ceiling to get a good angle of attack, but you could convert a good portion of that energy into vertical speed and thus altitude.
This is known as a zoom climb.
Max certified on a 747 is 45,000, (sp, short version for more range) one important thing to note is that it is limited to that due to fuel tank icing issues i believe, not on power.- there are anecdotal reports of it doing 50-55,000 but that wouldn't be legal of course.
So fl 600 is plausible on a 747sp in a zoom climb.
Search the phrase "Coffin corner" to find a good description of why planes can only go so high.
They mostly certainly can. But the question is how long they can stay there before something gets damaged or they go full stall.
This movie is called Vacation (2015). Took forever to figure this out.
I almost had a code brown a couple of Sundays ago. I was flying my T210 to Waco's TSTC on Sunday and got an unsafe gear at around 200' agl. I had planned on hitting the FBO there, but now I diverted back to Georgetown airport, 30m away. With the gear doors open, the climb performance and cruise speed was below normal.
Another plane on my route to the entry of the RNAV approach, and after trying to fly slower than him, the controller prioritized me (mainly due to my speed) and had the other guy do a 360 to let me get ahead of him.
Blew the RNAV approach, so did a visual. Although I REALLY wanted to get down, I though it prudent to get a visual indication of the gear down, which I was pretty sure it was and got permission to buzz the tower for them to check my gear. Back into the pattern and around. Beautiful main only landing and rolled out barely touching the nose wheel down and let the roll out most of the way down the runway, meaning a longer taxi back and shutdown. Then having to get to the terminal. Really not sure I was going to make it.
I've been sat in the flight path for Newcastle airport for the last hour and a half watching your videos waiting in the car park at the hospital for my mum time seems to fly by when you're watching these videos