Worst Approach Ever Recorded?? | Viral Debrief
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- Flight deck footage of a 737 making a VERY unstable approach to land and more viral aviation TH-cam videos explained
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Sink Rate
6:38 - Taxi Error
9:17 - Rough Ride
11:08 - Engine Failure
16:13 - Landing
19:22 - Brakes Are For Quitters
In the first video I assumed, or thought I remembered, PK was Pakistan on the aircraft registration, but didn't verify it... its actually Indonesia... even fake pilots make mistakes 😉
A mistake? Damn, now we all have to unsub...
dang only one comment frrrr
I knew you were fake!!
😂😂😂Lol
Oh boy... they're gonna run with this one! 😂
You’re no fake, you’re the real deal! 🤟
The first pilot corrected his sink rate with the runway
My spine hurts just watching it.
Haha
Lmao
😂😂😂😂 creative of him!
🤣🤣🤣
Also I’d like to point out something important Kelsey forgot to mention. The main reason you want to avoid putting your plane into a stall is that stalls are generally designed to fit horses and there’s little chance aircraft could fit in there.
You’re welcome
😂👍
That was very helpful, I'm taking notes. Stout!
Wish I would’ve known this before I attempted my pilots license. Thanks for the tip
Stalls are rarely made for less than 5 horses and will generally fit a ga aircraft just fine 😊
MY EYES ROLLED SO HARD I THINK I COULD HEAR THEM. God 😂😂
The plane may be registered to Indonesia but the landing here is at Paro in Bhutan. This is one of the most difficult commercial airports to access in the world. This was a COVID-19 vaccination transportation between the two countries. Also there are very few pilots permitted to fly in/out of Paro due to the difficulty
so low iq transferring products to the low iq masses
should have crashed
doesnt change the fact it was a horrible landing😅
even in paro the landings arent supposed to look like that
@@DJKHALED74629they are if you want a good video on it mentour pilot broke this exact landing down and it looks worse than it is
@markmontagna7637
I don't care how tough an approach is - that wasn't a landing. That was an incident, the pilot in command should be reprimanded.
I've seen a severely a battle damaged A4 with a pilot that is minutes away from passing out due to blood loss land on a carrier at NIGHT, and not spike it that badly...
And the SOB STILL trapped on the 3 wire 😂.
"You never want to see people running away from your aircraft". I love this guy's calm way of expressing insane situations.
“Something you never want to see when you’re parking is everyone running away from you”… Story of my life.
That's when you earn the callsign "Crash."
Call sign Oopsie Daisy
Busy day at the grocery store?
@@pikekeke Dollar General YO!
You work for Swift?
"Something you never want to see when you're taxiing to park is a bunch of people running away from your aircraft." Kelsey, you are absolutely hilarious.
There are worse things to happen to ground crew than this.
One of my friends waved a dash-8 into its spot many years ago - unaware that the weather radar was still switched on
It cost him several weeks in hospital, 6 months of recovery and the end of his commerical flying career (He'd just passed his Cat C and was working up hours)
@@miscbits6399 could u explain what happened? dont understand >.< sounds interesting though
@@miscbits6399 Yeah I don't understand what that means.
Especially if it's the passengers.
@@rektrainmeme5808 aviation radars emit very powerful radiation, it's how they detect weather. These radars are housed in the nose of most airliners so walking infront of it while active is basically walking into a big hit of radiation. The type of radiation they produce can burn living stuff at very high power
Learned to fly on sod fields in tail draggers from a pair of barnstomers in my teens. The guy that lost his engine did a good job, so was your advice for preventing a stall. I was taught early on to practice emergency landing and to "Matianeth thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee."
Aaaaaaamen.
@@rickyanthony😂😂😂
@@rickyanthony😂😂😂
3:25 bro was already dialing tower, no need to copy the number he still has it from the last time
He had 'em on speed dial.
On a flight that landed at O’Hare the tower kept changing the gate. We taxied for 44 minutes. When we finally got to the gate the pilot came on the PA and said; “Thank you for your patience as I did the longest taxi of my career.”
lmao i had a flight at ohare we taxied for an hour an 45 at one point they said we were gonna land in rockford
@@jooperW Did he take the Interstate ?
Damn, there's flights shorter than that.
Just taxiing at O'Hare to the runway, the captain on the PA, "Thank you for your patience ladies and gentlemen. While it must seem like we are bussing our way to Seattle, I can assure you we are making our way to the runway, and will hopefully be in the air in just a moment." O'Hare has some ridiculously long taxiways/instructions.
@Sakura Twister Chicago O’Hare (ORD) is renowned for it. Taxi under half an hour is lucky really.
Kelsey looks so pleased when the guy lands in the field. Like he could cry almost. So sweet!
Something else kelsey didn’t mention on the first one was that approach is into paro which is well known for being one of the most dangerous approaches in the world because of the mountains surrounding the airport. That’s why they were so unstabilized because it was their first time flying this approach and you actually have to weave around the mountains at the last second to get lined up with the runway. Also the mountains make it dangerous to do a go around
Gonna say when you're *that* crossed up over the runway continuing to the landing is probably more dangerous than a goaround
Mentour Pilot did a better analysis of that video which discussed the difficulties of the airport.
Is that why their bank angle was SO WEIRD at the beginning???
Thank you.
I thought it was that one (recognized the hills from another video).
And considering it's unstable by default and their first time, not too bad.
@@Loralanthalas bingo.
You can't really go in in a straight line, you have to do a very late sharp turn, because topography.
Dude that lost engines was a student on a solo cc. I've heard everything from mech failure to fuel starvation but regardless of the WHY, the HOW was impressive for a student to take an emergency like that. Glad he made it down in one piece and props to him for keeping his cool🤙
Shows the importance of FOEL/FEEL checks every 10 minutes.
I think he may have appreciated those props more while he was still in the air.
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
My guess is that he realised a long time ago that he was going to be out of fuel and he was mentally prepared to what was coming. Nice landing in any case.
I don't know if he checked this, but my instructor taught me that once you lose power, or even start losing power, you should mind your pitch(IE dont keep it at climb attitude), then look around for landing spots. once you find one, switch the aux fuel pump on and take a quick glance at the fuel selector and mags to verify they're in the right position. you might not need the landing spot anymore if you spot the problem.
One time my passenger had a bag sat on the floor beside him, and when I lifted it up and pulled it towards me to grab the snacks out, it pushed the fuel selector out of the "both" position. I didn't notice until the engine died out pretty abruptly 20 or 30 seconds later. I remembered my instructors words. flicked the aux pump on(which didn't do anything, but hey, it ruled out a mechanical pump failure.), pitched the nose down, and glanced at the fuel selector. Flicked it back to both and the engine came right back after a second or two.
This may be only me, but it's weird what happens to you when you face an emergency. I was flying low (under JFK 500' bravo shelf) and as I get through it go full power to climb, and I hear a bang and then grinding metal, my Cherokee starts shaking like I've never seen before, and my RPM drop to 1800 at full power (s/b 2600). I'm no longer climbing, I level off at 800 and call JFK tower and declare emergency. I blew a cylinder in flight, but somehow made it back to my airport flying low and slow.
My point: The whole time I didn't feel any fear, stress, nerves, I went through my engine power emergency checks, and had a landing spot picked out in case it died on me. But after I landed, and stepped on the ground to talk to fire/rescue, I noticed that I couldn't get my knees and arms to stop shaking.
The best method I've ever heard to explain a stall to someone who didn't know the four forces is to tell them, "Basically, you slow down from flying speed to falling speed, and if you're lucky, you've got enough altitude to get back up to flying speed before you hit the ground." It gets the concept across well enough...
It feels like something collapsed completely ,whatever about the air that was creating a feeling that you are being held up. Don't know if an asymmetrical stall going into a roll as in pointing a wing to the ground would feel the same.
Probably being in an elevator that had its cables to break would feel somewhat similar.
"In this situation, airspeed is more important than your altitude". Damn I would have forgotten this in this situation and I am a private pilot. Makes total sense. Thanks Kelsey. Might come in handy one day. I hope not.
Trim for best glide. Find a spot that looks like you can get into it and stay there. You can use flaps or slip to get down If you’re a little high. That guy did a very nice job.
Not a pilot but rode in a small plane with a pilot who could fly a "real" plane and got a bit of indoctrination.
Wow that first approach was SCREAMING - GO AROUND, but they forced it anyway.... lucky that everyone walked away from that one... I totally agree with your comments about good decision making in the process of piloting..... I feel sorry for aircraft that are operated like that... beats the daylights out of everything on the plane. ( Testament to the structural soundness of the 737 airframe taking this kind of abuse )
It's that famous airport, Paro. To make a good landing you have to almost clip a mountain with the right wing in that right turn at the start of the video. If you don't, this is what happens.
I can hear the clickbait video already: "Top 10 most DANGEROUS airports!!!!"
Mentour has also done a video on this clip. IIRC, he was more lenient on the pilot performance but really tore the check airman a new one for not intervening AND pulling out his phone during the landing.
@@benedictul Mentour's Video about this was really good and i think Kelsey should watch that^^
Could be an emergency landing...
@J Hemphill you have GOT to be kidding me. Safety nazi? He's a pilot that flies passengers. You do everything by the book when flying planes or people can get hurt or killed. Some of the rules around construction sites are just as bad as flights, but there is a reason for that.
The guy with the engine failure actually didn't fuel up before taking off and was running on fumes before his plane lost power. He put up the video with his takeaways from the incident and hopefully in the future won't forget what to do next time. But he did handle the situation really well and after he posted it I tried searching for the local news article about it, but couldn't find it.
Edit: Found it, his name is Brian Parsley. My comprehension is off 🤦🏾♂️, but someone clarified below, he thought he had fuel, but it was actually not enough fuel for the flight.
he forgot to get fuel? Seems like an important oversight
@@74gear you'd think you would remember that
@@benjaminmenken5693 He also forgot to fly best glide speed from the moment his engine sputtered. Keeping the speed up does not help unless he is maintaining best glide speed.
Are you sure? I remember watching him get interviewed on the local news and he said he had a full tank of gas.
@@74gear He is a student pilot completing his first long cross country solo flight. He got fuel... he just didn't get quite enough...
That 1st clip is of paro airport in Bhutan. It has been said it is one of the most dangerous and difficult airports to land at because it is situated in the valley of two mountains where the glide slope is picked up after an unstabalized turn at a very steep bank. There are only a handful of pilots qualified to fly into this airport. There are also TH-cam videos of this showing how difficult the approach actually is
I've seen the airport in the first video, it is known as one of the few airports that requires 2 specially trained captains to fly into. If memory serves me right I seen it on a documentary that they only have one chance to land no go arounds as there is no way to get out of the valley on the other end of the runway and no aircraft can climb quickly to get over.
That engine loss landing was smooth. Looked like an actual glider coming in.
I'm surprised nobody drops flaps in these situations. I would want to have my touchdown speed as low as possible when landing on unknown terrain...
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@@dingdong2103 Hey this is a month late but hopefully you see this. As a certified flight instructor who has had a few engines quit on me before, the reason I don't recommend using flaps in an off airport ditch and having a low airspeed is because of controllability. As your airspeed decreases, it may be argued you could have a better landing, incorporating a nice flare. However, whenever you are sacrificing airspeed, there is less air moving over your wings, giving you less authority over your control surfaces. In an event where you only have one attempt, this sacrifice for airspeed to have a smoother flare is risky. I recommend students to come in faster, and then hold off the flare with a nice ground effect (assuming available room to land) and as Kelsey stated, bring the yoke back to the chest. Now, do whatever you are comfortable with in the given situation and how you were trained. Stay safe and happy flying!
@@dingdong2103 flaps create drag which decreases your glide time. As much as I agree with you that having a lower airspeed would be better for a soft field TD. Its better to make sure your able to make your mark when you dont have the option to Go around. Putting out flaps too early could very well cause you to not be able to extend your glide far enough.
Yeah, that was so nicely handled. Calm and collected, kept his head in the game and set it down smoothly and safely.
The guy at 6:34 will be called Captain Lamp-post for the rest of his career.
Mr Moth, your plane is ready
@@zechsblack5891 Haha
Captain Poledancer
@@KruddyKamiKaze XD
The first video is landing on runway 33 in Paro Airport in Bhutan. There's a big hill in front of runway 33 that requires inbound aircraft to swerve around it on the left-hand side and then make a turn onto the runway at the last moment. The swerving you saw there is actually the published approach, just not executed that well. But that's what the training is for I guess.
I appreciate you taking the time and spending your energy to make these videos. I feel like you are a genuine friend of mine. Thank you
Kelsey, I took your line about the most important thing is safe decision making that makes a good pilot, and used it with my daughter while teaching her how to drive. You see? Your videos have an impact on the world.
this really does apply to driving! the driving skills will develop, but like you my dad ingrained certain habits early like changing lanes gradually after signaling. cheers
We show the Saudis this video
I literally had an driving instructor who would talk about ideas and stuff from aviation videos and apply it to driving 😅
I still didn't pass 🤣
Go Around is something I wish more drivers understood. You should never ever be making last second actions while driving, like jumping over 4 lanes to hit your exit.
If you miss it, you miss it. GO AROUND to the next exit and come back or whatever...
😸🚗👍
The "sink rate" thing is maybe not the thing you thought of. It wasn't a check flight. It is a landing into Paro/Bhutan, which is only allowed either to pilots who recieved a special training and checks, or to crews with such a pilot on board, as it's the case here. The Indonesian 737-300 had a load of anti-Corona vaccines on board. The normal procedure while landing into Paro is to switch the warning out (not done here). A normal stabilized approach to Paro is not possible due to mountainous terrain. The problem with this particual landing is, that 1. the PF didn't follow all the commands of the pilot from Bhutan sitting behind him, esp. making all the turns; 2. the PF therefore had to make too sharp turns ("bank angle"), 3. the PF consuming all the space he needs to align with the extended center line prior to touch down, 4. the PM recording the approach with his cell phone and not monitoring the PF at all, and 5. the crew altogether not making a go-around after this messed-up approach.
Scared the living bejesus out of me. Who said that a landing is a go-around with an option to land?
Exactly Mentour explained this long ago ,
Ok,🤷🏿♂️,but I swear that pilot recording thought he was about to smack the deck😆 it's funny because no one was hurt 🙏
@@omniking3479 Nobody hurt but the rippled wing and fuselage skins didn't look so pretty.
@@kn4cc755 lol... I had imagined. Yes.
Great job on the Cessna emergency landing. The speed that Kelsey was referring to is called the best glide speed. It’s the speed at which the airplane would achieve the farthest distance as it slowly trades off altitude for speed. The best glide speed is unique to every make and model of an airplane and would be specified in the POH.
Back pressure during the rolling portion of the landing is crucial. Not only does it help with bumps on the field, but it also gives some residual lift as the angle of attack could be sufficient enough to provide a bit of lift. This in turn makes the airplane feel a little lighter and puts less pressure on the landing gear at higher rolling speed. This of course bleeds off as the airplane gets closer to a stop.
I've seen a few videos of airliners (mostly A320s) landing with no nose gear or damaged nose gear. Petter from Mentour Pilot talks about the importance of keeping the nose up, in this case to stay off damaged gear as long as possible, but that you don't want to do it too long because you lose drag from the elevators. (That's my understanding, at least.) I was wondering watching the Cessna emergency landing if he had to worry about lengthening his landing distance by keeping the nose up. How much is that an issue in smaller planes and do you think this guy had to consider it at all?
@@jasonbarnett1256, an excellent observation. You bring up a very good point. Indeed, for large aircraft, such as airliners, this is a significant factor. However, they do behave differently than the small GA aircraft. I've heard Kelsey say as much in some of his other videos.
The greatest difference lies in the fact that airliners carry much larger mass at higher speeds. Therefore, the stall speed, at which an aircraft loses sufficient lift over the wings, is much higher as opposed to on small aircraft. And, since the speed is so much higher, so is the drag on the wheels as it rolls on the ground. As the speed bleeds off, keeping the nose high might cause the airplane to slam it onto the surface of the landing strip once the lift disappears. This is also due to this drag and the sheer mass of the aircraft.
A small aircraft, such this Cessna, has much slower stall speed. And it is much lighter. Therefore, keeping the nose high all the way through the roll is actually recommended on a rough landing terrain. Thus, as the aircraft gradually bleeds off the speed, thereby gradually losing lift, the nosewheel would gently lower to the ground.
I hope this answers your question.
Green dot speed
Hey Cap.
I'm not really into aviation but I came across your chanel and I'm now absolutely hooked. I like how you breakdown the videos and audios.
Keep it up
The landing in the field took me back to when I was a teenager, my Dad built a plane like that and used our sheep paddock as a runway. Except the paddocks were too short so he re-made the fence down the middle in such a way it could be flattened and held down with rocks on each side. Whenever we landed I would be so nervous in case the fence decided to pretend it was one of those wires on an aircraft carrier! Never did, luckily. Also never landed on a sheep because first he would do a low pass to chase them off into the bush at the side. Good times, miss you Dad ♥️.
Great story your dad sounds like a badass.
Epic Dad!
Would love to have met your dad
@@X737_ Christmas today and all alone thanks to Covid and inability to travel so I will tell another dad plane story. He had had his licence for a while, but had not yet taken me on any trip longer than about fifteen minutes (I am the family coward as was very well known). I was sixteen at the time. He said let’s fly over to the ocean and get the roof off (he had modified the Jodel D-11 canopy to be a slide back instead of open up), and of course I said yay let’s do that, sounded fun. There is a mountain range between us and the ocean, not a massive one but still several thousand feet of mountains. What he DELIBERATELY did not tell me was what happens when a light aircraft flies close over a mountain that has a juicy updraft on the other side. Plane started shaking madly as we went over the top, I was grabbing his arm screaming, sure we were going to die……til I noticed he was laughing his head off. Bad dad!! The low flying over the ocean with the canopy back did almost make up for the heart attack, it was amazing.
One of my great uncles impacted a cow. Killed the cow and wrecked the prop on his Cessna.
The only prop they could get at short notice that would fit was off a crop duster, which was designed for short takeoff but low speed.
Apparently his aircraft fair leapt off the ground, but took a lot longer to fly to his home aerodrome.
Registration "PK-" is for Indonesia. PK-YGW is a Boeing 737-300 operated by Indonesian cargo company, Tri-MG
OHH you are right it is Indonesia
@@74gear From wikipedia's entry on this airline: "On 18 July 2017, a Boeing 737-300F registered as PK-YGG bounced and slid off from Runway 15 of Wamena Airport, Wamena."
I can't imagine how that could have happened!
@@CaptainKremmen ygg Vs ygw
@@mohit_panjwani So? I don't imagine the pilots fly one 737 any differently to another.
kelsey, you're the man. thanks for all these videos and your knowledge. Definitely helping relax and get some humor in as i study for a check ride
I logged 28 hours as a student, and did great in ground school. I was mouthing "Go around, GO AROUND!" watching that "approach". I wanted to yell, but my wife was watching a movie 🍿.
All I could assume was really terrible wind and downdraft, but it still doesn't excuse the decision to force the landing.
others have mentioned that a turnaround isn't on the cards because the mountains straight ahead, so the terrible landing was the best outcome
Especially such an experienced pilot who teaches others. Unbelievable really. I hope he was retired
The "bank angle checked" is still killing me even after seeing this 10+ times 😂😂😂
This Sound doesn't happen in GTA, so they were basically surprised! 😂
"This is fine" :D
I think they go around if they don’t get the ‘’bank angle ‘’ call
That got me too. Bro, your bank angle is f-ed! I think he responded out of habit maybe?
@@TCPUDPATM AFAICT pilots have to give audible confirmation of warnings to be recorded on the cockpit voice recorder. In the case of an ehm. accident that's used to verify whether the pilots were aware of the condition and it also ensures the pilots don't miss the warning. So it is a trained habit.
Interesting parallel: Japanese train drivers are obliged to say out aloud and point out by hand _every_ sign they encounter along their journey. This is to ensure they don't miss anything and this habit is regularly verified. No slacking. No wonder the quality of services are so high there.
Regarding startle effect video, this guy was from my flight school. What doesn’t seem to be public knowledge, is that this was his long cross country student solo. He didn’t plan for enough fuel, and ran out of fuel. He did not top up the tanks before leaving the airport and during his intermediary stops, stopped and discussed with his CFI about fuel but again elected not to add fuel. Poor decision making in regards to fuel management and led to an engine fuel starvation. With all that said, he did to a great job getting the plane and himself safely on the ground. @74gear
Look, the guy probably already feels dumb enough without you going around to every instance of this clip and providing your NTSB investigative report on why his awesome unplanned landing was his fault. Feels like you're just trying to take away cool points under the veil of providing helpful information.
@@blocksmithforge7841 if he felt dumb about it he wouldn’t have posted the video.
@@CarrieJamrogowicz Maybe, or maybe he thought it was an exciting video that people would enjoy without critiquing his fuel management failures. I mean, I guess I didn't see the whole clip so maybe there is a part where he points out that the fuel tanks are empty. IDK. In the context of this video though, your comment just seems Karenesque to me. :)
I’m by no means trying to NTSB this thing, i just happened to be privy to additional information that adds context to this discussion. I was regurgitating everything that was told to me by persons directly involved in the incident. He is a public speaker as a profession and continues to try to gray the narrative on the situation. The reason I pointed this out was because he has been talking to anyone that will listen and posting his own debrief style videos on the incident but blatantly omits any fault of his own on fuel planning and he may be partially to blame. There is a video on here that he takes a “deep dive” on lessons learned etc but never once mentions the root cause of the accident which was fuel starvation to the engine and his part in it. Also, as I pointed out, I applauded his landing and safety of both plane and pilot given the circumstances. Point being, if one doesn’t acknowledge one’s own potential mistakes, I fear that it could become a recurring issue with this decision making and next time he may not be so fortunate to have a nice grassy field to set the plane down in.
@@nicholasgiannetti4599 I stand corrected :)
This channel has me hooked. Keep up the amazing work. I really do enjoy.
Nice debrief. I'm not a pilot just an enthusiast and I find these very information and sometimes entertaining. Keep up the good work.
10:00, I've actually had an air traffic controller help an aviation student and an instructor when they had a radio problem, the controller actually instructed the instructor how to troubleshoot the headset connector. The controller had actually flewn a significant amount of hours in the same single engine aircraft type with the same Garmin radio panel.. And this being in the TMA of a big airport.
The Indonesian flight was a humanitarian flight into a must be certified to fly into airport or have a certified for the airport pilot assisting verbally. Both left and right seat were fully qualified in the aircraft, the jump seat pilot was the pilot certified to fly into that airport (actually from a different airline) The missed approach point was several miles behind them, so sink rate and bank angle warnings while trying to land successfully. Mentor pilot has a great debrief on this video, you should check it out.
Yeah. I saw Mentour's video.
Agreed. Watched Mentor's video on this a while back. The takeaway from that was the pilot flying got well behind the advice being given by the experienced/certified jump-seat pilot (and behind the aircraft too). If you listen carefully you can hear the jumpseat pilot giving instructions, and IIRC having to repeat them a couple of times to get the pilot flying to comply, leading to the exaggerated maneuvers and complete lack of a flare at the end.
@@vedranb87 I, too.
@@philipstaite4775 Exactly.
Wow, thanks! Goes to show that even "qualified" pilots need strict refreshers and evaluations to ensure a thorough understanding of procedures, S.O.P's and to reduce "operational drift"
You are the perfect mix of knowledge and presentation. Thanks for these vids!!
I think you missed some context on the first video. That's actually one of the most difficult airfields to land to in the world. They are not lined up because the terrain requires you to make a sharp right hand turn at very low altitude right before the runway (at like 200-500ft). They were a second or two late with that turn which is why the landing went wrong. The captain on the right is a pilot qualified for the airport, either training a new pilot or as an advisor. You are not allowed to attempt a landing there if you don't have one on board giving instructions.
There are a couple of videos in youtube on how to land in Paro and it's really unintuitive as the runway is behind a cliff until the very end. Looks dangerous even when done right.
Mentor Pilot showed the first landing about a month ago. It's a specialist approach and requires a certified pilot for this airport to guide non certified pilots in. The approach goes wrong a little earlier than shown when the pilot flying didn't react soon enough to an instruction putting the plane out of the correct approach. Thereon after things go wrong
Nice discussion. 25,000 hour captain here. I've used the single brake for stopping technique many times. It was frowned upon by the company, but on airplane with grabby brakes like theA320, it made the last bit of the final stop a lot smoother. The trick is to only do it a bit and at the very last so as not to put a side-load on the gear.
those frickin planes cost how much to buy and run and the sobs have grabby brakes?
write it up until they fix it - frown upon you having to work around their shitty plane - the nerve.
@@moaningpheromones Writing them up doesn't help when all of them do it. Rejecting a t/o at V1 at max t/o weight takes huge strong brakes that aren't perfectly smooth at 1 knot down to zero. Most pilots didn't care about a perfectly smooth and undetectable stop. I did.
Excellent! I've been watching hundreds of aviation videos and this one is fantastic! I'm a layman and I appreciate these explanations. Thank you.
Really enjoyed how you linked crew resource management to a solo pilot situation - great way to look at it!
The first video is an approach to an airport in Bhutan where special training is required. As an alternative you can have next to you a trained pilot to tell you what to do... but the pilot flying doesn't do what the other pilot is saying, so... that happened 🙈 In any case I think it was a freight flight.
It was a freight flight delivering medical supplies. Neither pilot had flown into Paro before, but they had someone who does regularly, but not certified on the 737 to guide them through the approach. The pilot over ran the turn in point for the landing and therefore had to do a sharper turn and a correction that we see in the video.
I see some hills around the landing strip, if they were loaded , could they have still gone around?
@@charlesmayberry2825 yeah that is one of the hardest airports in the world to land at because there is no straight approach for this landing
I'm sure I've seen a longer complete analysis of this Bhutan approach in TH-cam. Mentour maybe?
The surrounding mountains go up to 5500m. I'm a bit disappointed that Kelsey didn't do some research on this clip in advance.
The fact Kelsey is so humble makes listening to him and watching these videos so much better.
He is just amazing.
The worst thing about the single engine power loss is being right over a field, and having to make steep descent or steep banks to get an approach. It just complicates things.
He had a good approach slope.
I was just reading about a contract proposal for a fighter in 1916, and one part stipulated in the contract was that it be able to operate from "a freshly plowed field".
im a ramp agent so i bring in planes regularly and i can sometimes see when the pilots slam on the brakes. i try to give the X when they are touching the very front of the mark but i make sure to let the pilots know they are about there so they can slow down nicely. still, some see the X and slam on the brake anyway. the plane will rock back and forth quite a bit for a moment. sometimes, the pilots try to slow down too gently and run out of speed a couple feet away and need to add power. BTW for any airline pilots reading this, it really helps us if you turn off one of your engines BEFORE you reach the gate so we can get chocks right away and its all quicker. nobody wants to sit holding 2 35lb chocks for 30 seconds in the freezing cold or super hot and sunny summer days. usually its best to shut off engine 2 because everyone will be on that side so the chocks will be gotten immediately
Former ramp agent here, thanks for taking it easy. Only other request is on those cold winter days, or wet days, keep the APU running and whatever opens that wonderful vent on the bottom of the plane. Love that little vent of high heat under the plane. Kept me warm, dried me off many times. Like an excessive hair dryer.
That's the best thing I've heard all week lol
"Something you never want to see when you're taxiing your plane to park is a bunch of people running away from your aircraft. A bunch of people running away usually means you're about to be in danger or you're doing something stupid. Neither of the two are good situations." TRUTH.
The first thing I thought as I watched the crew in the first vid careening towards the ground was "shouldn't they abort??" Felt pretty good to hear you say that the decision to proceed with that horrendous landing was the worst mistake made that day. Confirms that after watching several of your (awesome) videos I'm probably ready for my PPL ;) keep up the great work, thank you for the informative & interesting vids, and stay safe up there!
Another great video. Thanks!
One of the few good things to come out of the covid nightmare was finding this channel .. it made my world feel bigger .. in a good way.
I love the saying "keep the blue side up!" I sometimes remember it... Makes me feel better instantly... :)
"If people start running away you're either doing something wrong or very stupid". Made me laugh pretty well. Thanks for your videos. Some of us who wish to fly, or be in aviation but physically can't, you bring the true sense of the cockpit "atmosphere" with how you present. Keep the videos coming sir!
Your videos are so binge-able I love them!😁
Reminds me of a local carrier in Brazil, I still remember them landing in a little back water airport where they hit so hard I thought the landing gear collapsed. Was the first time I ever remember seeing the pilots getting out and inspecting the landing gear.
I finally had my discovery flight today, the privilege of viewing Niagara Falls from 3500 feet was just... *wow*. If my wallet allows me to, I'm definitely going to pursue a license further. Thanks Kelsey, and everyone else in the community for being so incredibly supportive of one another. Keep the blue side up ;-)
Were you able to make it happen?
I did one of those myself and instantly fell in love. I could find a way to justify the cost of getting a license as a one time cost, but couldn't justify the ongoing expense. $250/hr (at that time, would hate to see it now) was just too much to swallow so the dream will have to remain a dream.
@@MTGeomancer Unfortunately, it's been several months now since I've been up. I was nearing the amount of confidence I needed to go up solo, contracted COVID, lost my vehicle and had other unforeseen expenses. In other words, life got in the way for now.
Doesn't mean I've given up though, or ever will. Even if I can't turn it into a career, the sky still calls me, and who am I to turn it down? Hope you're well, friend!
I don't think 'bank angle', 'sink rate', or 'PULL UP' is something you want to hear during landing
I think "Pull Up" just means that you have to do something, or you will have a problem soon.
The other two mean that you have a big problem right now!
Terrain is bad too
@@alexandrialucius8351 ¤~《《T E R R A I N 》》T E R R A I N》》~¤
And OH!SHIT!
well, here there should be a "ohmygodwe'regonnadiepullthatthingupnow!" alarm
That's why miracle on the Hudson was so amazing. One in a trillion..... the pilot makes it happen, and everyone goes home...... Alive.
Hi Captain Kelsey, enjoying your videos. appreciate you. be bless n stay safe always.
Looks like Paro Airport. Not the easiest airport to land at, and probably the reason for the check airman. There is a hill right in the way of the approach path, and it looks like they went too far left due to that terrain, then had trouble getting back in line.
Also because of the mountains around Paro, the minima for a go-around is relatively high. They must have either decended too low for a go-around before realising they were unstable, or they were on drugs.
Mentor pilot found the full video of the clip: they were unfamiliar with the airport, they followed their instinct to stay too far away from the hill and turn too late for a stable approach.
They thus did a 3/10 landing. But at least they made it on the ground.
And the go around approach is to skip turning into the runway and fly around again. A bit hard to do with unfamiliar pilots
@@glenmcgillivray4707 The thing is, you can’t be unfamiliar with Paro to land there. That’s the whole point of the check-airman, a Captain in their own right, to ensure that the pilot flying ignores their incorrect instincts and follows procedure. In any event, absolutely shocking behaviour.
This was a flight with a guide pilot telling them what to do! one of the only 3 ways to fly into that airport
I agree with 74 on this one though. Regardless of how you got to that point there were at least a few instances where a go around should have been called. That was a scary landing to watch. I'd hate to have been in the back on that flight. The icing on the cake was the idiot who forced the landing to immediately get his cell phone out to record. Just so many lessons to be learned about bad piloting from this one video.
Best example of "sitting in the smart seat" was the lost engine incident with Qantas flight 32. Because it was a check flight for one of the crew, there were 5 pilots on the flight deck during the incident. Their handling of the situation was a textbook example of how to do it right.
Sioux City, United 232, which rewrote the approach to CRM.
Great advise for anyone who flies, Thank you 74.
That field landing was really good. I really enjoy your videos. Never went for my ATP, but your videos make me want to fly again. I miss it.
“Thinking Out Loud” is a strategy educators teach their students to use to help them understand their process. Talking out loud is just talking. 😂🙏🏻
If I were a pilot talk out loud would be a requirement.
@@dalemtb1199 is there any other way to talk?
I also heard the story recently of the pilot that checked the tanks before takeoff but the plane was on a slope , giving the appearance of full or full enough ….. she was smart enough to believe the gauges and made an early pit stop. She was on fumes.
If I was emergency landing I'd want TC to say something that could help me land safely, not 'I've called for a firetruck'.
LOL. If I'm flying with a Check Airman and he asks me, " Can you make it Captain?". There is a very high probability that my next call-out will be, "Going around, TO/GA, Flaps 15, Check thrust. Positive rate, gear up, check missed approach altitude." Great video. Thanks for sharing. Cheers.
The really impressive part about the pilot with the engine out emergency landing in the field is he is a STUDENT pilot
If that is actually the case, he did a really really nice job !!! Either way great job, especially so if he is a student pilot !!!
I was so ecstatic for the guy with the stalled engine when he landed. He did such an amazing job staying calm and made all the right decisions. Definitely seemed to be an experienced pilot
Student pilot, apparently, which makes it all the more impressive.
@@kvjackal7980 Who ran out of gas...
This video teached me a lot. Thank you sir
Kelsey, this is a cool channel, and I absolutely am addicted!!!
Thank you for all the contact . Great channel.!!!!
@74 Gear The first clip was taken at Paro, have a look at the Paro approach on TH-cam. All of those GPWS call outs are normal there. When the Bhutan Air flies into Paro, they actually have to turn off the GPWS because it would just be screaming at them through the whole approach. The approach usually makes the pilots fly VFR through the valley & must be performed by 2 captains to fly the approach. Even though it would be a completely unstable approach planes are usually found still Turing onto the centreline over the threshold.
Also love your videos mate!
Thank you for the continued aviation coverage! No matter what stage of flying you’re in; or if you’re just an aviation fan, there’s always room to learn! This series proves that point pretty precisely.
Kelseys faces during the more aggregious accidents/inncidents are pretty hilarious.
the guy landing on the gras field... amazing work!
been watching for a couple months now. just have to say thank you for providing a real perspective on flight. as a very infrequent airline passenger, the anxiety builds up. but with messing around in the newer msfs, added with your knowledge. makes flying a whole lot easier.
My man doesn't miss with these videos. In fact he lands perfectly on the runway centre line.
Da baby marry my daughter
@@DSX1 Unexpected arranged marriage
@@DSX1 Gimme your son instead
@BANANABOI69 tf?
WOW! Dude hit a light pole!! GREAT VIDEO!
Ahh legend, talking about it you just reminded me I still need to do a CRM refresher
He is training landing in Paro airport. He did the last right turn to late and overrun the centerline
Thanks, that's the name!
Too bad he also didn't train on proper piloting by going around.
@@Stubbies2003 checkout mentour pilots video. The go around has to be started much further back, and there is no stabilized approach. Ideally if done right you'd have to almosy clip the mountain to the right, and youd only finally have wings level at 200ft if i remember correctly
Legend has it, 74 gear will show us a video of his early days of flying when he had under 50 hours of flight experience once he reaches 1 million subscribers.
"HERE'S THE 800 NUMBER FOR THAT TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL IN AMERICA!"
“Good,good,good” lol they stuffed up the landing
These videos just makes my day🤩
Good Landing: All occupants walk away.
Great Landing: You can re-use the plane!
🤪😂🤣😁
Kelsey: You shouldn’t be hearing Sink rate! or Bank angle! On approach.
Kai Tak: (begins to cry)
It’s very cool to hear a pilot break stuff down. It’s kind of mystifying. Ive been wondering how many pilots are not much different than an indifferent fast food employee, or the maintenance crew/administration-can’t be many, but they must exist.
Excellent video
Reminds me of myself in primary school. I was playing flight simulator on a Sinclair QL and one afternoon ran to my mother shouting "Mama, Mama, I managed to crash on the Runway!!!". 😅
The first video was in paro Bhutan. It’s not a standard approach and not just anyone can fly in there. The pilot sitting on the right was filming the whole approach not just after they landed. They were already past the go around point I believe. Mentor pilot has a whole video that breaks down this approach.
Absolutely agree with your assessment of this vid
Kelsey, I love the faces you make!!!!😂
Train drivers in Japan are required to recite aloud the actions they are taking because it reinforces it in your mind! It also lets anyone call out any mistakes
They point at every signal or sign they see.
Can’t wait for video where kelsey is explaining the rumors we hear on the streets about aviation it will be like “rumors we have heard from streets vs reality coming up “ 😅😅😂😂😂😂
Hear a lot of rumors on the street about aviation do you?
@@MichaelOfRohan ONLY WHEN HE'S WEARING HIS TIN FOIL HAT!!!!!!! I'LL BET NEITHER OF US HAS HEARD THESE "RUMORS" ITS NUT DOCTOR TIME!
@@SWC44 i think its a bot comment. And bot likes.
@@MichaelOfRohan SHARPEN THE HAT!!!!!
Maybe I'm missing the reference or is he just high?
Holy cow man... That first one was like my first attempt at landing in a flight sim BUT IN REAL LIFE!
I first started flying under “momma bird” Evelyn Johnson back when she was still alive. In her 50,000 hours of mostly recreational aircraft, she’s crashed 8-10 times. I asked her what ya do when ya realize you’re gonna crash. She said “ya just start looking out the windows for a soft place to sit her down”. She was about 102-103 yo when she told me this.
That poor old woman flew till she was 99. STILL passing her physicals!! She only quit at 99 Bc some drunk SOB hit her in her car and she lost a leg in that crash. She was the airfield manager till she died at about 105ish.
When the city renewed her final contract to be the airfield manager. They’d asked her when she thought she was gonna hang it up. So they’d know when to set the expiration for the contract. She answered “I’m gonna keep doing this until I get through with it”. So the city signed a contract with her and the expiration read “when Mrs Johnson is through with it”.
The craziest part is, when my grandad was a child….he used to sneak out to go hang out with Mrs Johnson and she also taught him to fly.
Built different! I’m fascinated with people like that because I am not one of them!
10:12 I do this often when I’m riding the motorcycle because riding a motorcycle is a lot like flying an airplane in the sense that if you make a mistake often times you don’t get a second chance. Saying things out loud such as what I’m doing or what hazards are around me, is a really good way to keep situational awareness
In computer programming, we call this "rubber duck debugging" where explaining your problem (in this case over the radio) might shake loose a good solution. Love the parallels between pilots and programmers.
It's like he's posting in Stack Overflow. I was expecting a "thanks in advance" at the end
That grass field landing was *chef's kiss*. Great job to that pilot and ATC for working with him.
Kinsley’s bedrooms are always so clean and his videos are great and interesting. Thank you, brother