Hello, My friend This is manufacrurer of PAGANI DESIGN watches, we are so sorry about the issues mentioned by our customers, and thank you so much for your advice, we have improved the issues of the bezel, bracelet and clasp recently, you can ask for the video of the real watch you are going to order ( bezel check ) before the seller send it out. We always listen to our customers, thanks for your advice and have a good day PAGANI DESIGN
@@alexsdg3441 Push pin isn't really an issue, though. It's just your preference. The exposed end of the first bracelet link is more of a universal issue.
The lume on yours looks better than mine. I completely agree with you on the bracelet. Especially the way the way those links jut out. Pagani actually contacted me, after seeing my review, and have told me they are working to improve all the issues. I'm just waiting to receive pictures, to see whether that includes those links though.
I have been wearing mine for 4 months. It is keeping excellent time -3 seconds a day. Very little back play on the bezel and i think the case is really well finished. I agree with you regarding the bracelet so have replaced it with a different one. I bought it for $100 so i think its very good value for money and the lume is excellent.
As crazy as it sounds, I think I like the design of this watch more than the original for one reason (other than the price). It's that ridiculous helium valve; it's a real turn off for me. However, I would've like a little red on the dial and second hand but at that point, it would a blatant attempt at a copy instead of a homage. Great review!
Box spin 🏆. I like the watch, the bezel has a nice sound to it despite the back play. That clasp has that definitive snap and extension. The girth of the piece is appealing also. It’s a homage worthy of the price.
I just bought this watch without the bracelet. I love the color. And I bought a brown leather strap with it. So now it looks very cool. I"ll never touch the bezel anyway. So replace the bad things with the good ones. In the Netherlands you can buy this for 88 Euro.
The new Heimdallr Sea Ghost 200m James Bond homage (including helium escape value) is on their website and FB page. Would be interested to know how it compares to the Pagani.
As I have a bit larger arm, I don't mind the L2L, even with the long center link. I do understand your argument changing to the floating center link like the one on my PT time bracelet. BUT, I like this clasp better than the PT, it's short with NO adjustment. Yes, if they fix the finish and bracelet, I think it's very close to that asking price. Some are unhappy but the 2 I have run well, look good, keep good time n make me happy 😊 I hope others find some happiness too. Merry Christmas to you all. Looking forward to 2021 and another year of great reviews from our friend out back. 🎅
hi there,thank you for your review.i have to say €120 euros for this watch is amazing price.saffier cristal,seiko nh35,nice Design is not a Homage but a inspiration of the Omega.stay safe
Appreciate the review brother as always....I think there's a great watch in there fighting to get out, a few minor adjustments and they'd have a damn near perfect piece....if they either matched or removed the date wheel, sort the end link, the diver extension is irrelevant and could be removed, can't see anyone using it....the price....I don't believe your getting anymore for your money compared to other PD pieces....if they made those adjustments then yes, paying more than there average would still be a bargain....as it is I believe they are cashing in on the JB hype....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Yea baby, I hear you on us poor people. I'm so broke, I can't pay attention. Forgiving the little imperfections, I am very happy with mine. Last year I bought 2 during the Christmas sale for ? $160 I think. My biggest dilemma is what one to wear. Blue PT Time or the green one. Both have all options promised. Sapphire, ceramic and a real nh35a running 8 to 12 secs a day. Merry Christmas!
Looks good on strap. I think a stick of lume by the date would help balance things. At least it doesn't have the extra nipple (scaramanga ref) at 10 o clock. Grest vid as always. I was waiting for you to review this. BIG THANKS.
@@PerthWAtch I really don't (I might feel different about it if I was a saturation diver). But I love absolutely everything else about the original omega.
Finally got mine....after two months. The the pin in the hinge of the bracelet clasp is bent to shit and opens the clasp slighlty if pulled on a bit, the lume pip in the trinagle is off center like this one, the bezel gets gritty and hard to turn at the 9 o'clock and the 3 o'clock and the brushing on the clasp is terrible, like they did it with an SOS pad or something. Overall I paid $127 CAD so I'm not too concerned, great little watch. EDIT: The end links dont stick out on my wrist, apparently I have a large wrist.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. One of my old mentors used to say “if you can measure it, then measure it”. What is your wrist circumference?
I have this on the rubber strap, which suits it much better than that bracelet. Love the watch. That bracelet seems decent, but is really a mismatch with the watch.
hey Ivan. how is it going, there? You guys are heading into Summer and we (L.A) are going into Winter here. Pretty cold in the morning. my morning leg heater is out, ha ha. This is second time watching this Pagani model review. I watched Jody's review yesterday. Even though I have an Omega watch (Believe it or not, I have 1969 Omega Moon watch original which is my Heirloom watch in my safety box), I am not really a big fan of the dial design. For me, that hand design does not really ring a bell...Anyway, I think that Pagani took a couple of steps back with this watch. too much back play on bezel, push pins? and big awkward clasp design, even though it looks very very super solid, and especially the "killer" THE FIRST LINK of the bracelet. That will probably turn off about 90% of potential buyers.... However, Pagani is pretty quick responding to consumer's needs and requests. so they will probably come out with better version in about 6 month of time. Thanks for the review, Ivan and have a super fantastic day in Perth.
Nice Omega you got there Alex!! As for this watch, I would the bezel feel is the same as my Sub Hulk homage actually. Push pins however are a bummer indeed when they could do screws for the cheaper Sub. The clasp is awkward in some ways but is also a faithful homage (at least in the shape and length), but I guess the could've done better on Omega's bulky one. Apparent the 11/11 sale model will have improved on this. Shame o them for not sending me the improved one... go figure!!
I ordered mine on oct 20th. and today has marked 50 days in Transit. It just Pinged on New York NY Sorting center dec 9th 45 days in a Time Warp where time and space freeze. Of course 50 days can easily turn to 60 as sorting center - customs don't like Singapore Packages . It could be Like unto that of waiting for the Bond movie. Barbra Broccoli should just settle and release the movie via Pat Per View
My Omega SMP Chrono has the same funny looking bracelet where it bends straight down as it sits on the wrist. That part of the original design they nailed pretty well.
Great video. I reviewed the Bliger version on my channel, and whilst the patins is way too pink for my taste, I believe is better finished than the Pagani Design. At least the bezel is great. It came with a Seamaster like bracelet, not the planet ocean model, but the older one, and still, I feel this watch is not fit for any bracelet, so I got it on a nato or a Vostok mesh strap, and it changes completely. I wonder how the Phylida will be like. I might get it and do a side-by-side comparison.
@@PerthWAtch I also love my bracelets, both Oyster and Jubilee, but this particular watch has something that I can't describe that a Nato simply works. Maybe is Omega's advertising. BTW, the bracelet on your Omega Seamaster is a thing of beauty. That's the one with the push button easy-adjust system, isn't it?
Excellent reviews, I just started watching, subbed. Beautiful homage, some significant positives, however the bracelet opening and apparent lack of reflective coating pulls me away, but I'm sure I could get used to it quickly. Love how respectful and intelligent people exchange ideas and views on the comments of your videos (especially the 1632 review) great culture, thank you.
i just received mine a few days ago, bought it on amazon for $109 and i am pretty sure i got the improved version. the crystal doesn't glare, the dial markers match the color of the bezel markers and i got it on the milanese bracelet, which doesn't have the same issues. it came with a bonus nato strap as well.
Hello i saw you review of the pagani design pd-1667, and i see the defect of the steel bracelet, can i know the measurement of the circumference of your wrist in centimetres, in this way i can know if the watch defect will also show up on my wrist
Are the indices white or cream colored? I like this watch. Also I replied to you not long ago that my Orient Ray II kept incredible time new--- then loosened a bit after wearing it, still keeping decent time but not like when it was initially new. Using a Time graph app and checking the watch against Atomic time every day --AND.. against wearing it on my wrist ---I got my Ray II dialed in to 0 to +2 seconds a day. I'm super pumped. I also bought a Ratio II orange dive off of Ebay and have it regulated to -1 to 2+ seconds day (Myota movement). The Ratio doesn't have hacking, but I'm okay with it. I liked the look of their orange dial. I took my time and ever so slightly tapped the +/- hairspring movement adjustment thingy (lol). I apply a VERY thin coat of silicone using a toothpick to the O-ring to prevent distortion and abrasion to the O-ring when closing the caseback. I couldn't be happier with both watches.
@@PerthWAtch It sounds so legit. "I know they're completely inedible, but my eggs are homage-ing a gourmet omelet." Makes me laugh every time. 🤣 Love the channel.
A Seamaster without the HEV for all the folks that don't like it!! Bit torn on this, the Omega is my grail, so by default I like the style, but I'm not really a fan of homages. Excellent review as always, thanks Ivan 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, Ivan. Was a bit worried when I saw the placard thingy on this video, which still reads "Time to Die..."! Seems like a decent value proposition, though.
Hi, i got this watch and i Want to Change the Bezel and the Insert (as mine was Bend and i dont Like the Bezel style, would Love a coin Edge). Are there any replacement bezels which fit this watch properly? I am from Germany and Just cant find any replacement bezels on Ali. Would appreciate an answer :)
Have to say, that even with both the watches in extreme close up on my 75" tv, making the watch faces about 2 feet across, I still struggle to see the immediately apparent and obvious quality differences between these watches! The main difference would appear to be branding and how much you're willing to pay for a name.
The copying is good… so in appearances it’s very hard to tell much differences. In hand however there is no question, and you will not mistake the real for the pretender.
I like it. Don't love it. I'm NOT buying anymore watches until the "thing" pandemic, what ever passes. Most people I know are strapped for money. Usual to lower quality but asking higher prices. Not just watches either, food, building material etc. I'll sit back and watch for a while. Thanks, for another great review! Cheers.
My collection is 17 deep. Seven of them are Paganis. I just got addicted to their value for money ratio for a while. Of my seven Paganis...THIS ONE is my favorite. In my opinion, it stands toe to toe with the original and does not lose by all that much at all. The bracelet is garbage. Pagani bracelets are always garbage. That's where they do the majority of their cost cutting and I don't care, because I always replace the bracelet anyway. Mine sits on a nice, gloss black Ritche NATO with black PVD. It's PERFECT! ***I wrote the above before watching the video. As is always the case with Pagani, they heard everyone screaming about the bezel and fixed that. I bought one that was produced later, and my bezel is perfect. ****aaand then...after updating MY comment, I saw that Pagani had come in and said they fixed the bracelet too. On that, I would not know. I opted for the black nylon/silicon bracelet, which I actually use on a different watch, and put a NATO on my NTTD. So, maybe they fixed that too. I just can't say because I did not buy the steel bracelet.
Thanks for time to share those many details and observations, it is much appreciated! As you pointed out, I think Pagani used to be quite weak on the fit & QC of their bracelets - these have improved considerable in the last 12-18 months, to the point that many are surprised at hearing the price when they have felt the bracelet in hand. They are truly best in the price point as far as I know. The bezel fit has also improved, but still feels somewhat loose - I think San Martin is a good comparator at slightly higher price, offering much better bezel feel and fit.
What was the shipping service? I got mine off amazon and they used Yun Express. It’s shown “shipping info revived” for a few days now and I’m getting worried. How bad was the shipping for you?
Great review! I’ve had mine for a few weeks, but before that I had the Heimdallr Sea Ghost. Now I’m kinda missing it. Which do you think is the better watch?
@@PerthWAtch The main thing I wasn't used to is titanium. I've never had a titanium watch, so the light weight was very surprising for me. I guess I'm so used to the weight of my Phobios Wave Master, that the Sea Ghost felt like a paperweight. But that doesn't make it a bad thing I suppose. Thanks for replying back so quickly. Again, awesome video.
I own this on the mesh bracelet... It's an amazing watch for the price. I'm a Bond fan, but even if I were going to buy an Omega, I would probably buy a different, more classic model than this one, so this homage is perfect for me.
Great watch for the money. Except for that poor bezel action. It's a deal breaker for me. I'm not gonna buy that watch even for as much as twice cheaper due to that bezel issue. Many thanks for the review, mate!
Have to admit I really don't mind a watch having a Helium Escape Valve unlike others. Looks an ok watch. Don't mind the odd homage. Just personally not a fan of the brand's who just bring out homage watches constantly like Pagani. But just cos I don't doesn't mean others shouldn't
Pretty nice watch. Considering that ugly bracelet, probably it would be clever to buy it on a strap and then change it with a milanese like the original Bond watch. Thank for the review Ivan.
Jody was right - every buyer should take the rubber band version and additionally buy a nice mesh like the Omega has. These end links are just bad news.
Not to sound like a jerk I honestly didn’t see that much difference in finishing when side by side but I’m sure in person I could justify the higher expense of the omega!
You sound like a jerk! JK :) I can only speak for the AT 150m of which I have the real thing and the Pagani copy… worlds apart for sure but is it 30x better? Probably not, but it’s not far off that many multiples!
If they perfected that bracelet, better lume and bezel, this wouldve been the biggest hit on alie. The way the bracelet drapes is a huge eye sore. Hopefully a V2 with these fix.
Hiya again and apologies for such a late comment. These watches do make me wonder within reason as to where your cash goes if you buy " the real thing".In this case I think it looks better without the carbuncle of an escape valve? The other thing is if the movement gives up the ghost you aren't obliged to spend hundreds of pounds to get it serviced? Good stuff.
I think this is pretty darn good value for money, although the $70 Sub homage is thought by most to be even better still! Luxury products of course have a certain margin, and a good proportion goes into the marketing and name brand that has been established... we have to accept that. For those who are more on a budget, homage is here as an option :)
The bracelet looks good quality aside from that first link . Maybe less of an issue for larger wrists I have a pagani sub homage in blue and really like it Also in the uk the watches are now branded PAGRNI
140$ we are over steeldive prices and right on Heimdallr territories, which provide much better quality for the money. The Cronos you reviewed lately is at 170$ right now. I think Pagani Design is inflating its prices and does not provide the quality for the money that they should provide for this price. Personally I prefer to buy steeldive, Heimdallr, Cronos and SanMartin, ok the last 2 are marginally more expensive but really worth every cents. By the way, Heimdallr is going to issue a version of this watch, so for those interested in such watch just wait a couple of weeks and you will get much better quality...
Nice homage very well built for the price. However not keen on the brand name so I stay away. Just my choice. Agree that the bracelet end links need a redesign. Thanks for the review!
Who would ever use a Pagani Design watch for deep sea diving? No one, thats who. So what difference does it make how many “clicks” the bezel has? I doubt anyone would jump in a kiddie pool with this watch. It is a reasonable facsimile for the price. The “clicks” are meaningless. Other than harping on the bezel, nice job on the review.
Ah but then so is the water resistance rating, the screw in case back, and the screw down crown! I dunno man, lots of people in the world, some might just do the improbable ;)
That watch looked great until you put a pic off the Omega up and then it looked so plain next to it! Never mind still a decent watch but that dial is so boring. Cheers Ivan...
i always feel like a lot of these "homage" watch brands from China, always makes great watches, but they always screw up at the bracelet/watch strap. A lot of time, the material is very bad, or the construction of the metal bracelet is terrible.
Thanks for the Review! I really like the look, but that bezel is so poorly made, I'm out. They are rising prices and not the quality - rhis is not the way to be successful.
I get what you mean. I actually think the bezel has the same amount back play in my Sub homage, and that they've at least ironed out QC issues which my bezel insert and bracelet fit had...
I have the one with mesh strap much better and more comfortable to wear The lumes of Pagani is my only downfall in this range.The Turtle lume much better.
Good review, piss-poor watch. I mean, if you're gonna ripoff an icon, why not do it properly? This thing just looks like one of their half-ass Rolex clones badly repurposed to take advantage of a momentary trend. Terrible execution in all the salient areas...
I think one could certainly see it that way. On the other hand, I would say the dial, case shaping, hands, bezel insert (not bezel action) and sapphire crystal are all done pretty well, as good as I would expect for the price. The bracelet is also pretty darn solid - just a pity about the clasp fit and the end links!
@@PerthWAtchI will try find the urls to those videos for you. Heimdallr is about to launch their version (with helium valve) and others are more copies with sterile dials. But as said I'm waiting for the Heimdallr version. I suspect it will come with a couple of choices for movements. Like their MM300 homage. I got mine with the Chinese ETA copy (Seagull ST2130).
@@PerthWAtch th-cam.com/video/bRWbVf0ypyo/w-d-xo.html is another one I watched.. the Phylida is closer in looks (faux helium valve) to the original but has a miyota (non hacking).. also dial and hands are a better homage...
This is NOT a homage, this is a bottom of the barrel, Chinese factory direct copy watch. They put 0 effort in design, and copied everything from case to dial from Omega, and their own brand name is a copy of Pagani Automobiles. Don't support these people!
Nah this is quality homage that gives a good option for those of us with less means. They designed the logo and differences in dial, lack of HEV, plus a different bracelet - did you miss these?
The watch is ok but...the big issue I have with your videos is your voice. Others have described it as relaxing and soothing but for me it's just a dull flat monotone like a history professor droning on while no one pays attention. It puts me to sleep and I'd rather stay awake when watching a review. Not sue whether you can do anything about it but I thought you should know.
Thanks for sharing your opinion V - your view is singular as opposed to multiples of others to the contrary, including Jan (thanks!), so logic would dictate that I do nothing to change my voice. Cheers! ;)
How extremely rude, Ivan's accent is what makes him an individual , national and local accents are what make's everyone different and may it always remain so , I live in NW England I dread to think what you would make of my accent, you probably wouldn't understand I word I was saying. Ivan keep up the good work ,stay safe.
Hello, My friend
This is manufacrurer of PAGANI DESIGN watches, we are so sorry about the issues mentioned by our customers, and thank you so much for your advice, we have improved the issues of the bezel, bracelet and clasp recently, you can ask for the video of the real watch you are going to order ( bezel check ) before the seller send it out.
We always listen to our customers, thanks for your advice and have a good day
PAGANI DESIGN
Sounds good - please make sure to send me the corrected version and I will make sure to do an update comparison. Cheers!
@@PerthWAtch We will, thank you so much
Great, please get in touch with me via email to arrange the shipment then.
thanks for super quick reply. did you already fix the first link issue on the bracelet? and screw instead of push pin? please let us know. thanks
@@alexsdg3441 Push pin isn't really an issue, though. It's just your preference. The exposed end of the first bracelet link is more of a universal issue.
Haha "in case you want to fill it out and pretend that that's going to work"; this describes so many of our activities in life
Good point!!
The lume on yours looks better than mine. I completely agree with you on the bracelet. Especially the way the way those links jut out. Pagani actually contacted me, after seeing my review, and have told me they are working to improve all the issues. I'm just waiting to receive pictures, to see whether that includes those links though.
Thanks for that mate - yeah they just commented here also and I have pinned their comment above.
I have been wearing mine for 4 months. It is keeping excellent time -3 seconds a day. Very little back play on the bezel and i think the case is really well finished. I agree with you regarding the bracelet so have replaced it with a different one. I bought it for $100 so i think its very good value for money and the lume is excellent.
Thanks for sharing that Neil - glad you are getting good value and are enjoying it! :)
As crazy as it sounds, I think I like the design of this watch more than the original for one reason (other than the price). It's that ridiculous helium valve; it's a real turn off for me. However, I would've like a little red on the dial and second hand but at that point, it would a blatant attempt at a copy instead of a homage. Great review!
Thanks - the second hand does have a red tip actually. I think even without the HEV it’s still a blatant copy of majority of elements :)
@@PerthWAtch Yeah, you're right about it being a copy. It definitely advertised that way too lol.
I agree, the original doesnt even have a date window!
Box spin 🏆. I like the watch, the bezel has a nice sound to it despite the back play. That clasp has that definitive snap and extension. The girth of the piece is appealing also. It’s a homage worthy of the price.
Thanks for the comment! :)
I just bought this watch without the bracelet. I love the color. And I bought a brown leather strap with it. So now it looks very cool.
I"ll never touch the bezel anyway. So replace the bad things with the good ones. In the Netherlands you can buy this for 88 Euro.
Nice one! Glad you are enjoying it! :)
The new Heimdallr Sea Ghost 200m James Bond homage (including helium escape value) is on their website and FB page. Would be interested to know how it compares to the Pagani.
Ooh that looks interesting!
As I have a bit larger arm, I don't mind the L2L, even with the long center link. I do understand your argument changing to the floating center link like the one on my PT time bracelet. BUT, I like this clasp better than the PT, it's short with NO adjustment. Yes, if they fix the finish and bracelet, I think it's very close to that asking price. Some are unhappy but the 2 I have run well, look good, keep good time n make me happy 😊 I hope others find some happiness too. Merry Christmas to you all. Looking forward to 2021 and another year of great reviews from our friend out back. 🎅
Thank you for your thoughts as always Mike - wishing you and yours a blessed Christmas and safe new year!
hi there,thank you for your review.i have to say €120 euros for this watch is amazing price.saffier cristal,seiko nh35,nice Design is not a Homage but a inspiration of the Omega.stay safe
Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed the video :)
Thanks for the great review. It looks like an OK watch. I have 1 PD watch, the Autavia homage in blue. Its not bad for $75 CAD. Cannot complain.
Ooh I haven’t seen that model!
Appreciate the review brother as always....I think there's a great watch in there fighting to get out, a few minor adjustments and they'd have a damn near perfect piece....if they either matched or removed the date wheel, sort the end link, the diver extension is irrelevant and could be removed, can't see anyone using it....the price....I don't believe your getting anymore for your money compared to other PD pieces....if they made those adjustments then yes, paying more than there average would still be a bargain....as it is I believe they are cashing in on the JB hype....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Thanks for that Brian - very fair comments and observations you have made there I think!
Really enjoy seeing all the unusual watches on this channel!
Thanks Thomas - glad you enjoyed it!
A nice review and a nice watch, but what kills it for me is the bracelet end links sticking out at the lugs, such a silly error.
Apparently revised for the current release
interesting watch....asthetic wise, quite a handsome piece....excellent review, Ivan..🙋🏻♂️✌🏻🙏🏻😷
Haha yeah, the Omega is a beauty! :)
This is the better version of Ω 007 because it has no helium escape valve!
Haha fair enough!
Fantastic watch (alternative) for poor people like me; who love Omega but can't afford one. Top review as per normal.
Thanks man - glad you enjoyed it :)
Yea baby, I hear you on us poor people. I'm so broke, I can't pay attention. Forgiving the little imperfections, I am very happy with mine. Last year I bought 2 during the Christmas sale for ? $160 I think. My biggest dilemma is what one to wear. Blue PT Time or the green one. Both have all options promised. Sapphire, ceramic and a real nh35a running 8 to 12 secs a day.
Merry Christmas!
I think that's a good looking watch and the price is right 👍thanks Ivan good review
Thanks James - always good to hear from you :)
Great review Ivan, and your voice is excellent 😀. Stay safe my friend, Covid knows no boundaries. 😷🇨🇦
Thanks Kevin - you too mate! :)
Box spins well? Say no more I’m buying it.
Wise decision!
Looks good on strap. I think a stick of lume by the date would help balance things. At least it doesn't have the extra nipple (scaramanga ref) at 10 o clock. Grest vid as always. I was waiting for you to review this. BIG THANKS.
Thanks - haha you really don’t like the HEV!?
@@PerthWAtch I really don't (I might feel different about it if I was a saturation diver). But I love absolutely everything else about the original omega.
Finally got mine....after two months. The the pin in the hinge of the bracelet clasp is bent to shit and opens the clasp slighlty if pulled on a bit, the lume pip in the trinagle is off center like this one, the bezel gets gritty and hard to turn at the 9 o'clock and the 3 o'clock and the brushing on the clasp is terrible, like they did it with an SOS pad or something.
Overall I paid $127 CAD so I'm not too concerned, great little watch.
EDIT: The end links dont stick out on my wrist, apparently I have a large wrist.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.
One of my old mentors used to say “if you can measure it, then measure it”. What is your wrist circumference?
Hey Pagani, fix the end links. They stick out too much.
They should angle down more to match the lugs angle.
Yes, totally agree!
I’m having difficulty working the knob to adjust the time
Me too!
Excellent review. Thanks for that.
Most welcome :)
Apparently from other reviews its better to get the rubber strap version
Not if you hate rubber straps...
Or simply put it on a mesh, as I’m going to do with mine.
I have this on the rubber strap, which suits it much better than that bracelet. Love the watch. That bracelet seems decent, but is really a mismatch with the watch.
Yeah agreed, that bracelet really isn’t the best for this.
hey Ivan. how is it going, there? You guys are heading into Summer and we (L.A) are going into Winter here. Pretty cold in the morning. my morning leg heater is out, ha ha. This is second time watching this Pagani model review. I watched Jody's review yesterday. Even though I have an Omega watch (Believe it or not, I have 1969 Omega Moon watch original which is my Heirloom watch in my safety box), I am not really a big fan of the dial design. For me, that hand design does not really ring a bell...Anyway, I think that Pagani took a couple of steps back with this watch.
too much back play on bezel, push pins? and big awkward clasp design, even though it looks very very super solid, and especially the "killer" THE FIRST LINK of the bracelet. That will probably turn off about 90% of potential buyers....
However, Pagani is pretty quick responding to consumer's needs and requests. so they will probably come out with better version in about 6 month of time.
Thanks for the review, Ivan and have a super fantastic day in Perth.
We are about to get a storm here in Perth WA today!
Friends, it doesn’t take 6 months. They have already made improvements to the problem of this watch and will launch the improved version on 11/11.
Nice Omega you got there Alex!!
As for this watch, I would the bezel feel is the same as my Sub Hulk homage actually. Push pins however are a bummer indeed when they could do screws for the cheaper Sub. The clasp is awkward in some ways but is also a faithful homage (at least in the shape and length), but I guess the could've done better on Omega's bulky one. Apparent the 11/11 sale model will have improved on this. Shame o them for not sending me the improved one... go figure!!
@@jamesrosales6266 what improvements? the bezel? the first link of bracelet? screw instead of push-pins? please let us know. thanks
I ordered mine on oct 20th. and today has marked 50 days in Transit. It just Pinged on New York NY Sorting center dec 9th 45 days in a Time Warp where time and space freeze. Of course 50 days can easily turn to 60 as sorting center - customs don't like Singapore Packages . It could be Like unto that of waiting for the Bond movie. Barbra Broccoli should just settle and release the movie via Pat Per View
Yeah the waiting is frustrating!!
My Omega SMP Chrono has the same funny looking bracelet where it bends straight down as it sits on the wrist. That part of the original design they nailed pretty well.
How weird... which model is that? This bracelet is more commonly seen on Planet Ocean models, and the ones I’ve seen are not like this.
Great video. I reviewed the Bliger version on my channel, and whilst the patins is way too pink for my taste, I believe is better finished than the Pagani Design. At least the bezel is great. It came with a Seamaster like bracelet, not the planet ocean model, but the older one, and still, I feel this watch is not fit for any bracelet, so I got it on a nato or a Vostok mesh strap, and it changes completely. I wonder how the Phylida will be like. I might get it and do a side-by-side comparison.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I am very much a bracelet guy and keep my Seamaster on steel, I love those bracelets!
@@PerthWAtch I also love my bracelets, both Oyster and Jubilee, but this particular watch has something that I can't describe that a Nato simply works. Maybe is Omega's advertising. BTW, the bracelet on your Omega Seamaster is a thing of beauty. That's the one with the push button easy-adjust system, isn't it?
Yep that’s right 👍
Great spinning good looking watch too
Great spin thanks to box design
Great looks thanks to Omega design ;)
Well My Pagani Pinged in Tampa Florida after 76 days. And will be here tomorrow. I Really thought someone in the Mail sorting center Stole it.
76 days!? Oh my goodness!
Excellent reviews, I just started watching, subbed. Beautiful homage, some significant positives, however the bracelet opening and apparent lack of reflective coating pulls me away, but I'm sure I could get used to it quickly. Love how respectful and intelligent people exchange ideas and views on the comments of your videos (especially the 1632 review) great culture, thank you.
Thanks for the comment and the support - welcome aboard! :)
i just received mine a few days ago, bought it on amazon for $109 and i am pretty sure i got the improved version. the crystal doesn't glare, the dial markers match the color of the bezel markers and i got it on the milanese bracelet, which doesn't have the same issues. it came with a bonus nato strap as well.
Very beautiful watch
Thanks to Omega 😂
Hello i saw you review of the pagani design pd-1667, and i see the defect of the steel bracelet, can i know the measurement of the circumference of your wrist in centimetres, in this way i can know if the watch defect will also show up on my wrist
17cm, as stated in the video.
Are the indices white or cream colored? I like this watch. Also I replied to you not long ago that my Orient Ray II kept incredible time new--- then loosened a bit after wearing it, still keeping decent time but not like when it was initially new. Using a Time graph app and checking the watch against Atomic time every day --AND.. against wearing it on my wrist ---I got my Ray II dialed in to 0 to +2 seconds a day. I'm super pumped. I also bought a Ratio II orange dive off of Ebay and have it regulated to -1 to 2+ seconds day (Myota movement). The Ratio doesn't have hacking, but I'm okay with it. I liked the look of their orange dial. I took my time and ever so slightly tapped the +/- hairspring movement adjustment thingy (lol). I apply a VERY thin coat of silicone using a toothpick to the O-ring to prevent distortion and abrasion to the O-ring when closing the caseback. I couldn't be happier with both watches.
Hmm amazing attention to detail - well done! Hole it works out much better for you!
Insides here are cream I think
"Homage-ing" is my new favorite word.
Why?
@@PerthWAtch It sounds so legit. "I know they're completely inedible, but my eggs are homage-ing a gourmet omelet." Makes me laugh every time. 🤣 Love the channel.
How come your eggs are inedible?
A Seamaster without the HEV for all the folks that don't like it!!
Bit torn on this, the Omega is my grail, so by default I like the style, but I'm not really a fan of homages.
Excellent review as always, thanks Ivan
👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for that Steve - yeah plenty sure don’t like the HEV, and with a rating of 100m that would be an extra level of pretentiousness here :)
Hi, Ivan. Was a bit worried when I saw the placard thingy on this video, which still reads "Time to Die..."! Seems like a decent value proposition, though.
Haha it’s meant to be provocative :)
@@PerthWAtch Sure thing, Ivan. Cheers 🍻!
Interesting to see if Phylida's OSM homage is just as good as this Pagani.
People keep mentioning Heimdalr
@@PerthWAtch That's brand new and I don't think is out yet, but I did snag a couple of their new Sharkey Monster homage.
Hi, i got this watch and i Want to Change the Bezel and the Insert (as mine was Bend and i dont Like the Bezel style, would Love a coin Edge). Are there any replacement bezels which fit this watch properly? I am from Germany and Just cant find any replacement bezels on Ali.
Would appreciate an answer :)
Probably but I don’t know where to find them...
Have to say, that even with both the watches in extreme close up on my 75" tv, making the watch faces about 2 feet across, I still struggle to see the immediately apparent and obvious quality differences between these watches! The main difference would appear to be branding and how much you're willing to pay for a name.
The copying is good… so in appearances it’s very hard to tell much differences. In hand however there is no question, and you will not mistake the real for the pretender.
Do you really think Bond would ever wear a watch with 100 m water resist?
I suspect he doesn’t think much about it and takes whatever Q division provides...
I like it. Don't love it. I'm NOT buying anymore watches until the "thing" pandemic, what ever passes. Most people I know are strapped for money. Usual to lower quality but asking higher prices. Not just watches either, food, building material etc. I'll sit back and watch for a while. Thanks, for another great review! Cheers.
Yeah fair enough point there Mike!
My collection is 17 deep. Seven of them are Paganis. I just got addicted to their value for money ratio for a while.
Of my seven Paganis...THIS ONE is my favorite. In my opinion, it stands toe to toe with the original and does not lose by all that much at all. The bracelet is garbage. Pagani bracelets are always garbage. That's where they do the majority of their cost cutting and I don't care, because I always replace the bracelet anyway.
Mine sits on a nice, gloss black Ritche NATO with black PVD. It's PERFECT!
***I wrote the above before watching the video. As is always the case with Pagani, they heard everyone screaming about the bezel and fixed that. I bought one that was produced later, and my bezel is perfect.
****aaand then...after updating MY comment, I saw that Pagani had come in and said they fixed the bracelet too. On that, I would not know. I opted for the black nylon/silicon bracelet, which I actually use on a different watch, and put a NATO on my NTTD. So, maybe they fixed that too. I just can't say because I did not buy the steel bracelet.
Thanks for time to share those many details and observations, it is much appreciated!
As you pointed out, I think Pagani used to be quite weak on the fit & QC of their bracelets - these have improved considerable in the last 12-18 months, to the point that many are surprised at hearing the price when they have felt the bracelet in hand. They are truly best in the price point as far as I know.
The bezel fit has also improved, but still feels somewhat loose - I think San Martin is a good comparator at slightly higher price, offering much better bezel feel and fit.
Great review!
Thanks :)
One question here, is the bracelet reversible like the ones on the Omega? (it looks like a two side bracelet on your video)
Reversible? You mean can turn inside out? Definitely not.
What was the shipping service? I got mine off amazon and they used Yun Express. It’s shown “shipping info revived” for a few days now and I’m getting worried. How bad was the shipping for you?
Well I’m an “influencer” allegedly and they used FedEx for me...
Great review! I’ve had mine for a few weeks, but before that I had the Heimdallr Sea Ghost. Now I’m kinda missing it. Which do you think is the better watch?
Haven’t had the Sea Ghost but based on comments and pictures it seems like a better watch.
@@PerthWAtch The main thing I wasn't used to is titanium. I've never had a titanium watch, so the light weight was very surprising for me. I guess I'm so used to the weight of my Phobios Wave Master, that the Sea Ghost felt like a paperweight. But that doesn't make it a bad thing I suppose. Thanks for replying back so quickly. Again, awesome video.
I paid $99 USD today on the Ali 11-11 sale.
That is AWESOME!!
I decided to go with the silicone strap as the bracelet looks terrible from the reviews I’ve seen. Plus it has a deployant clasp.
Ooh sounds good! 👍
The lack of helium valve is a deal breaker for me.
Haha that actually seals the deal for many!
Pagani v. Rolex: which box spins better?
Pagani kicks that stuffing outta Rolex in that department
@@PerthWAtch I knew it!!!!!!!!
I own this on the mesh bracelet... It's an amazing watch for the price. I'm a Bond fan, but even if I were going to buy an Omega, I would probably buy a different, more classic model than this one, so this homage is perfect for me.
Good to hear that it’s a good one. That titanium Seamaster shouldn’t be anyone’s first, second or even third Omega IMO.
Looks like the 300m with PO style bracelet.
Yeah that’s what I said...
Love it, currently giving the white face one away over on my channel
Not Another Watch Channel Giveaway! ;)
Why they made bracelet weird?Interesting.
Poor QC and design
Isn't it a 120-click bezel?
Check out the video where I demonstrated unequivocally that it’s 90 clicks
Great watch for the money. Except for that poor bezel action. It's a deal breaker for me. I'm not gonna buy that watch even for as much as twice cheaper due to that bezel issue. Many thanks for the review, mate!
Thanks for the thought Roman - good feedback for Pagani!
Hey, friend, as far as I know, the Pagani factory has improved the bezel and buckle of this watch, it is already a perfect watch
Are you working for Pagani? Why didn’t you send out the improved one?
@@PerthWAtch Hello, dear friend, please reply to the Facebook message, I will explain there
Done 👍
Have to admit I really don't mind a watch having a Helium Escape Valve unlike others. Looks an ok watch. Don't mind the odd homage. Just personally not a fan of the brand's who just bring out homage watches constantly like Pagani. But just cos I don't doesn't mean others shouldn't
Yeah fair enough man... and yes, no doubt this will still sell!
I might get it on the rubber strap as that bracelet is shockingly bad. Cheers Ivan
Yes it is!
Pretty nice watch. Considering that ugly bracelet, probably it would be clever to buy it on a strap and then change it with a milanese like the original Bond watch. Thank for the review Ivan.
Interesting thought - personally I don’t like the shark mesh the Bond watch comes on...
@@PerthWAtch i wasn't a big fan of the mesh bracelets, but lately I am started to appreciate how comfortable and practical they are.
Jody was right - every buyer should take the rubber band version and additionally buy a nice mesh like the Omega has. These end links are just bad news.
Please update comment that has been pinned.
Also, I have never seen a “nice mesh”...
Not to sound like a jerk I honestly didn’t see that much difference in finishing when side by side but I’m sure in person I could justify the higher expense of the omega!
You sound like a jerk!
JK :)
I can only speak for the AT 150m of which I have the real thing and the Pagani copy… worlds apart for sure but is it 30x better? Probably not, but it’s not far off that many multiples!
Nice watches…. I literally just came across this brand on Ali express
They are great value - been around for a while now
If they perfected that bracelet, better lume and bezel, this wouldve been the biggest hit on alie. The way the bracelet drapes is a huge eye sore. Hopefully a V2 with these fix.
Yeah agreed, the bracelet is shocking!
Hiya again and apologies for such a late comment. These watches do make me wonder within reason as to where your cash goes if you buy " the real thing".In this case I think it looks better without the carbuncle of an escape valve? The other thing is if the movement gives up the ghost you aren't obliged to spend hundreds of pounds to get it serviced? Good stuff.
I think this is pretty darn good value for money, although the $70 Sub homage is thought by most to be even better still! Luxury products of course have a certain margin, and a good proportion goes into the marketing and name brand that has been established... we have to accept that. For those who are more on a budget, homage is here as an option :)
@@PerthWAtch I am not on a tight budget but have for along time realised what a ripoff some higher end brands are.I just steer away and buy wisely?
You are a wiser man than I am!
@@PerthWAtch There's not much difference between a fool and wise? Its a fine line.
Hahaha!
Crown?
Crown!
I think Pagani Design has a miss with this one, but those hungry for an Omega homage and tired of Rolex homages might attempt it anyway...
Yeah fair point
Get the Phylida and thank me later
@@salty_terminal_civilian5374 already have a Phylida...
@@syndicatedsatellite7288 recommending it to those who don't and see the comment. Neither feels like the real thing but one is clearly better.
@@salty_terminal_civilian5374 Are you high?
If they loomed the bezel i would have been in like a shot ;)
What about the other issues I pointed out?
The bracelet looks good quality aside from that first link . Maybe less of an issue for larger wrists
I have a pagani sub homage in blue and really like it
Also in the uk the watches are now branded PAGRNI
PAGRNI!? What! Boo!!!
Respect!
Hooyah!
The watch of the Kazakhstan secret service.
What?
@@PerthWAtch The secret service that protects Borat would wear this
Huh!?
Nice watch better if it was on a milenese bracelet
Sure but those look cheap!
There are more and more "new design" in Aliexpress lately. Too big for my 17cm wrist though.
Don’t you mean more and more “copy design”?
@@PerthWAtch yeah mate. Yeah. I have no issues people wearing it, I also owned pagani batman. But the copy getting rampant. Cheers
140$ we are over steeldive prices and right on Heimdallr territories, which provide much better quality for the money.
The Cronos you reviewed lately is at 170$ right now.
I think Pagani Design is inflating its prices and does not provide the quality for the money that they should provide for this price.
Personally I prefer to buy steeldive, Heimdallr, Cronos and SanMartin, ok the last 2 are marginally more expensive but really worth every cents.
By the way, Heimdallr is going to issue a version of this watch, so for those interested in such watch just wait a couple of weeks and you will get much better quality...
Yaaay! I'm willing to pay more for proper lume.
I'm hoping for the Heimdallr version to get it right.
Yeah I get what you mean - I think Pagani are gonna have to discount this a bit to sell as much as they’d like.
What do you expect for a $50 Fake Clone watch?
I expect less actually. Why do you ask?
Nice homage very well built for the price. However not keen on the brand name so I stay away. Just my choice. Agree that the bracelet end links need a redesign. Thanks for the review!
Thanks - you don't like "Pagani" name?
Who would ever use a Pagani Design watch for deep sea diving? No one, thats who. So what difference does it make how many “clicks” the bezel has? I doubt anyone would jump in a kiddie pool with this watch. It is a reasonable facsimile for the price. The “clicks” are meaningless. Other than harping on the bezel, nice job on the review.
Ah but then so is the water resistance rating, the screw in case back, and the screw down crown! I dunno man, lots of people in the world, some might just do the improbable ;)
Weakest link is the bracelet and the price, it's a disaster
Ah nice one, I see what you did there! 😉👊
"no time to dive"
Why?
Pagani knows how to monetize the new bond movie hype 😄. too expensive for the same movement of their submariner
Haha yeah jumping on the bandwagon!
@@PerthWAtch Sir can you review the Lgxige automatic watches especially the presidential and nautilus homages. thanks
Dunno, never heard of them... I’ll see.
That watch looked great until you put a pic off the Omega up and then it looked so plain next to it! Never mind still a decent watch but that dial is so boring. Cheers Ivan...
Thanks Nathan - a pass for you then!
@@PerthWAtch Yeah mate! Besides I've got a Flieger from Ali on its way and I cannot wait! Cheers Ivan...
i always feel like a lot of these "homage" watch brands from China, always makes great watches, but they always screw up at the bracelet/watch strap. A lot of time, the material is very bad, or the construction of the metal bracelet is terrible.
A lot of times that’s true… however Pagani have kept improving and their latest iterations are very good!
News is that the new Bond will be a woman so kind of watch would she wear??
It’s a ladies Omega - already published on website.
It's a good alternative, but I feel that for that money I feel you should get at least 20atm wr.
Hmm maybe
How many people buying this watch actually need 200 meters? This is a desk diver!
You should see the size of the cups on my desk.
@@PerthWAtch 🤣
Thanks for the Review! I really like the look, but that bezel is so poorly made, I'm out. They are rising prices and not the quality - rhis is not the way to be successful.
I get what you mean. I actually think the bezel has the same amount back play in my Sub homage, and that they've at least ironed out QC issues which my bezel insert and bracelet fit had...
Bliger is far more accurate omega looking
Is it?
I have the one with mesh strap much better and more comfortable to wear The lumes of Pagani is my only downfall in this range.The Turtle lume much better.
Thanks for sharing your experience
The date window puts me off. It's just so lazy.
You mean it being unframed?
Hommage.... just a knock off
Homage... takes elements from another and isn’t a just a knock off ;)
Good review, piss-poor watch. I mean, if you're gonna ripoff an icon, why not do it properly? This thing just looks like one of their half-ass Rolex clones badly repurposed to take advantage of a momentary trend. Terrible execution in all the salient areas...
I think one could certainly see it that way. On the other hand, I would say the dial, case shaping, hands, bezel insert (not bezel action) and sapphire crystal are all done pretty well, as good as I would expect for the price. The bracelet is also pretty darn solid - just a pity about the clasp fit and the end links!
I was enthusiastic initially, but that band kills it. Crappy bezel... Not the best homage. There are better ones out there...
Which brand of homage would you say is best?
@@PerthWAtchI will try find the urls to those videos for you. Heimdallr is about to launch their version (with helium valve) and others are more copies with sterile dials.
But as said I'm waiting for the Heimdallr version. I suspect it will come with a couple of choices for movements. Like their MM300 homage. I got mine with the Chinese ETA copy (Seagull ST2130).
@@PerthWAtch th-cam.com/video/bRWbVf0ypyo/w-d-xo.html is another one I watched.. the Phylida is closer in looks (faux helium valve) to the original but has a miyota (non hacking).. also dial and hands are a better homage...
Ah very good, thanks for finding that!
Why doesnt he talk about the pricepoint of both? Really dumb comparing them.
It’s there for everyone to see... really dumb not realising that.
@@PerthWAtch dumb not mentioning the prices
Dumb dumb dumb
This is NOT a homage, this is a bottom of the barrel, Chinese factory direct copy watch. They put 0 effort in design, and copied everything from case to dial from Omega, and their own brand name is a copy of Pagani Automobiles. Don't support these people!
Nah this is quality homage that gives a good option for those of us with less means. They designed the logo and differences in dial, lack of HEV, plus a different bracelet - did you miss these?
I can't get over the cheap looks.
The Omega looks?
@@PerthWAtch It's a cheap watch with very little going for it but the knockoff design.
So you like the looks??
@@PerthWAtch i love Omega. One day, me, a Seamaster. I can picture that very clearly.
Terrible bezel
Yeah that’s what I said
The watch is ok but...the big issue I have with your videos is your voice. Others have described it as relaxing and soothing but for me it's just a dull flat monotone like a history professor droning on while no one pays attention. It puts me to sleep and I'd rather stay awake when watching a review. Not sue whether you can do anything about it but I thought you should know.
Ivan's voice is great. End of story.
Thanks for sharing your opinion V - your view is singular as opposed to multiples of others to the contrary, including Jan (thanks!), so logic would dictate that I do nothing to change my voice. Cheers! ;)
@@PerthWAtch Has been a long time subscriber and have no problem with you voice whatsoever, keep up the good work!
@@PerthWAtch Fair enough, everyone's free to have their own opinion.
How extremely rude, Ivan's accent is what makes him an individual , national and local accents are what make's everyone different and may it always remain so , I live in NW England I dread to think what you would make of my accent, you probably wouldn't understand I word I was saying. Ivan keep up the good work ,stay safe.