How Subic Bay Could Transform Philippine Security | Taiwan Talks EP397
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Philippine military is looking to create a new base at Subic Bay to boost the country’s capabilities against increasing Chinese aggression in the South China Sea. In this episode of “Taiwan Talks,” we discuss the history of Subic Bay, its significance to the Philippines’ defense, and international involvement in regional security. Furthermore, we examine links between Taiwan, Japan, and the Philippines, as well as how the use of technology such as drones can affect their collective security.
Our guests are:
Arthur Ding
- National Chengchi University Professor Emeritus
Kuo Yu-jen
- National Sun Yat-sen University Institute of China and Asia-Pacific Studies Director and Professor
Tang Shao-cheng
- National Chengchi University Institute of International Relations Professor
Renato Cruz De Castro
- distinguished professor at the Department of International Studies at De La Salle University
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:50 - History of Subic Bay
00:03:22 - Why Is Philippines Upping Capabilities in South China Sea?
00:07:05- Is Subic Bay a Gamechanger in Philippines-China Tensions?
00:08:08 - How Would China React to U.S. Support for Philippines?
00:10:48 - Manila’s Stance on China Over Time
00:14:02 - Drones, Join Drills, and Collective Security
00:18:13 - Japan’s Role in Indo-Pacific Security
00:22:35 - Why Is Beijing Keeping Pressure Up on Manila?
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Taiwan and Philippines must work together against China
It will be stupid for Taiwan to even get involve in this Philippines foolishness. Look at ASEAN countries. Any one dance with the tune of Philippines. By the way China is defending the coral area that belong to Taiwan that illegal claim by Philippines. Any partership over the dispute area is call betrayer be it green or blue camp.
@@seekersoul3439 you have a forsaken soul 👻👻👻
@@seekersoul3439u are misinformed by the PRC.
@@Darkhound708 没話說吧。 don’t make me laugh. 😂 😂 😂
@@seekersoul3439It is more important for Taiwan to work closer with the Philippines in countering Chinese aggression now that China has been successfully cowing and dazzling with its economic and military might many ASEAN Countries.
Taiwan-Philippines Friendship. Mabuhay!
It was President Aquino who took the case to Arbitral Tribunal in Hague.
It was the old President Aquino who kick out the US bases. This wouldn't happen had the US basis still here
Yeah.... But her mother made the Philippines.... Liberal party sucks
True! And the Phil. won. China does not agree with the international law. This means China is an outlaw!
If we where to go back to the time of Ming Dynasty, the imperial court would consider those PRC coast guards as pirates
Taiwan is a free country. Love from Philippines
according to China's constitution amended after Chinese revolution in 1930s, Taiwan is a province of mainland China, were there is no context on Taiwan's constitution that China is apart of Taiwan, Taiwan is not recognized as country, Since People's Republic of China's establishment in 1949, the PRC has also claimed Taiwan as a province
Non-Communist nations referred to the CCP-controlled mainland as "Red China" during this time. In 1971, the UN General Assembly voted to move the "China" United Nations seat from the ROC to the PRC. In 1971, the UN expelled the ROC and transferred China's seat to the People's Republic of China (PRC). In addition to the ad tempus recognition of the ROC by a majority of countries before UN Resolution 2758, the ROC lost its membership in all intergovernmental organisations related to the UN. therefore Taiwan is not a country but a province of mainland China
Taiwan is not recognized as country because Taiwan is colonized by Japan and reclaimed by China as their province
@@totzinfo now Philippines will support Taiwan Independence due to China behavior in south china sea.
Free Tibet, Philippines, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
Both taiwan and phil. Need each other...
Taiwanese are much kinder than mainland chinese anyway.. and with these going issues about both countries being bullied by one country, it makes sense that the 2 work together to strengthen each other. 😊
Only the CCP government is not good for people majority.
Mabuti pa itong mga taiwanese nkakaintindi sa kalagayan ng pinas...😮
Dahil hindi naman pilipinas ang intensyon ng china na gerahin. Ginagamit lang ang pilipinas ng americano para sa interest nila sa taiwan.
I want taiwan and philippines work together against china!
Its a possibility, however it need not be announced by each govt publicly as you know, some kid throws a terrible temper tantrums
Taiwan is the real China and the mainland is a rouge province.
Day dreamer. Understand which area was the dispute. It is the area that Taiwan claim Philippine illegal occupied and China is getting back ? So work together with Philippines mean traitor. Be it green or blue camp.
@@seekersoul3439Whatever Wumao!!!🙄💩🙄💩🙄
@@seekersoul3439 we will sooner support Taiwan independence , as counter to china.
Two EDCA sites in North Luzon will be beneficial not just for the Philippines but also for Taiwan. 😊😊It’s covering Taiwan south and eastern part for potential defense.
India
Taiwan
Japan
Indonesia
South Korea
Philippines
(APDATO) Asia Pacific Depence Alliance Treaty Organization.
Oz also
Poor Philippines, begging for help by these military capable countries. If your government and politicians have strong visions for tomorrow and not to steal money from the people,?
Now you understand how important military equipments are
@@Wassuppzjust right you call yourself “supot” and a coward too.
@@Wassuppz, be surprised WUMAO what the US will do before the of 2024. The US is going to Publicly Announced in the media the accumulated stolen wealth through corruption of the CCPs Princelings & Commie Politburo including your Emperor Winnie the Pooh. According to US Senator Rubio Xi Jing Ping hidden wealth is around $700 Million dollars which mainland Chinese populace does not even know. These wealth accumulated are all through corruption in the CCP upper & lower echelons. You accused another country of corruption? Look at your backdoor first before you accused other country of corruption. China's economy is falling apart at the seams. The United States & other Western Allies will not help China's faltering economy to the brink of collapsed. Just watched.
@@Wassuppz yup because of the first woman president in the philippines .Cory Aquino the sale all our army equipment and even the Bong bong missiles the order to close.the lock of support from the Government.
Untel Press.Duterte come to power and starting to buy defence equipment under the modernization project..and continue to this correct administration..press bong bong Marcos ..
It a little bit too late but at least we have progress ☺️☺️☺️.. the Philippines colonies with 3 super power country like Spain, America and Japan but the don't learned there lesson..and now the Chinese is ready to colonies the philippines.
I hope Taiwan invest more in the Philippines especially regardinh semiconductor
The United States will soon move its semiconductors to a trusted ally. Taiwan is not safe.
Philippines already has a couple of semiconductor facilities since 1990 up to the present.
US commerce secretary Gina Raimondo has called for a sharp increase in capacity for assembling, testing and packaging semiconductors in the Philippines, as Washington seeks to bolster rapidly growing defence co-operation with its oldest Asian ally.Mar 19, 2024
That would Be Very Nice. But, If i am Taiwan, I would not do that Now. See The Phil Gov. Is deeply Penetrated by Chinese Espiya, Tapos ang Daming Nababayaran para makapagtayo sila ng Bisiness. BUSINESS DISGUISE AS A FRONT FOR THEIR ESPIONAGE BY C. C. P-P. L. A. Linisin Muna Ang Pinas At Ndi Nyo Kaya Protecttahan ang Mga KaaLYado nating Bansa sa loob ng PInas. Sariling Gubyerno Hindi Nga Mapagkatiwalaan, Dami Nalalagayan ih. Pano na
Taiwan makes very good micro chips like USA.
I love this program. Keep up the good work and God bless.
Philippines, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan must unite and form a NATO like security pact agreement EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANIZATION (EATO-NATO)
The Hyundai shipbuilding has secure a contract to Subic to build a lot of corvettes for Manila
It seems correct because Malaysia and Indonesia don't seem too interested in joining. Therefore, it looks promising for Taiwan and the Philippines to cooperate in pushing back against China. Additionally, Japan and South Korea can also be invited to form an Asian NATO.
Joking. 😂😂😂 Taiwan leader is not foolish
@seekersoul3439 50 cent per post seems like ur flooding the comment section enjoy your free vpn or living in a free world country enjoy the free world benefits
@@URBAN_Resistance don’t need vpn. 不需要, you understand? That is 繁體字 which is used in Taiwan not China.
@seekersoul3439 it's easy to type in in the old traditional writing tech tech u making people dumdum aren't u😆😆😆ur not using vpn but benefiting in the free world society with out the great fire wall while siding with beijing nice why not go back or live in china if china is so so high tech and good to live in😆😆😆😆
@@URBAN_Resistance it’s so easy and so beneficial, why don’t you start typing Chinese and conversation with me and see if it 50 cents. 😆 don’t make me laugh. Can’t even afford own military armour and keep on hoping other to help in. And want to laugh on other. 😝
Short of a direct military pushback against China, maybe the think tanks and military planners in the Philippines, the U.S., and like-minded allies have already explored the following options already, who knows: My apologies if the following options are rather lengthy. Thank you for your patience and understanding:
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RISK LEVEL 1: (1) File diplomatic note verbales (useless); (2) Summon Chinese ambassador to protest (useless); (3) PH Coast Guard hold press conferences (useless); (4) AFP holds press conferences (useless); (5) Senate holds press conferences and investigations (useless); (6) Congress holds press conferences and probes (useless); (7) Threaten to declare Chinese ambassador as persona non grata (useless); (8) Provide transparency media coverage of Chinese & PH actions (useless); (9) Invite foreign media onboard PH vessels sailing in the West PH Sea (useless); (10) Portray China as the aggressor in the West Philippine Sea (useless); (11) Have all ASEAN countries unite in declaring China’s actions as aggressive (useless); (12) Cancel all pending infrastructure projects in the PH with Chinese companies (useless); (13) Air drop supplies to BRP Sierra Madre (mixed results); (14) Send civilian ships to supply outposts (mixed results); (15) Use PH Coast Guard & BFAR assets to escort supply ships (mixed results); (16) Use helicopters to send supplies to BRP Sierra Madre (results pending).
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RISK LEVEL 2: (1) Increase number of EDCA sites even more; (2) Increase number of BrahMos cruise missile sites; (3) Increase radar sites to monitor CCG, PLAAF & PLAN, militia movements; (4) Set cap on visitor arrivals from China; (5) PH grants visa-free status for Taiwan nationals; (6) PH grants priority & waivers to Taiwanese companies to do business in the PH; (7). Increase PH cross-cultural interaction with Taiwan (education, tourism, agriculture, etc.); (8) Employ U.S. Coast Guard assets to escort PH supply ships; (9) Invite foreign shipbuilding companies to construct shipyards in the Philippines to speed up warship construction (i.e., Hyundai, Daewoo, Navantia, Austal, Mitsubishi, etc.) (10) Invest and expand PH shipyards like PropMech (note that the PH is the 4th largest shipbuilding country in the world & Lung Teh Shibuilding Corp. of Taiwan was the principal designer/builder of the Philippine Navy's Multi-Purpose Assault Craft (MPAC) when the program first began; (11) Increase frequency of PH Coast Guard holding more civil & maritime exercises with the Taiwan Coast Guard (we already do that as per AFP Chief of Staff, General Romeo Brawner); (12) Vigorously pursue a 2nd claim at the World Arbitration Court in the Hague;
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RISK LEVEL 3: (1) Increase the Philippine’s defense budget. NOTE: The Philippine defense budget is expected to be around 1.19% of the country’s GDP in 2024; it should be increased drastically (*the PH is facing an existential threat as China gobbles up more PH territory, thereby threatening PH sovereignty … now, they are doing the same with our Sabina Shoal; note that Vietnam’s defense budget is expected to be around 2.97% of the country’s GDP in 2024); (2) Acquire F-16 /JAS-39 multirole fighter bombers & munitions; (3) Acquire submarines & more guided-missile frigates, corvettes, and missile boats; (4) Increase the number of larger steel-hulled Coast Guard cutters (larger than MRRV’s); (5) Acquire more assets for long range fires (GMLRS, 155mm artillery, etc.); (6) Acquire more assets for naval engagements (Harpoon, C-Star, NLOS missiles, etc.); (7) Acquire more items for asymmetric warfare (Javelin, Stinger, drones, mines, standoff weapons, etc.); (8) Increase number of US military and allied advisers in the PH; (9) Set up on PH territory U.S. warfighting logistics to be activated if Article 3 of the MDT is invoked;
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RISK LEVEL 4: (1) Establish BrahMos cruise missile site in the Batanes Island group & Palawan; (2) Base fighter and reconnaissance units in the Batanes Island group & Palawan; (3) Increase PH marine contingents in the Batanes Island group & Palawan; (4) Set up barriers around PH-held islands or shoals; (5) Use PH Navy assets (gray hulled warships) to escort PH supply ships;
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RISK LEVEL 5: (1) Assign armed soldiers/marines to ride with PH fishermen; (2) Train and arm PH fishermen with light weapons and bulletproof vests (CAGFU?); (3) Artificially expand and more actively guard PH-held islands or shoals; (4) Use US Navy assets (gray hulled warships) to escort PH supply ships; (5) Replace BRP Sierra Madre with a newer and larger vessel (or vessels); (6) Reactivate Clark AB, Subic NB, Wallace NAS, Cubi Point NAS, Crow Valley, and other facilities; (7) Increase rotation & exercises of U.S. & Allied troops to the PH;
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RISK LEVEL 6: (1) Permanently station a USAF tactical fighter / bomber wing in the PH; (2) Permanently station a USN carrier battle group in the PH; (3) Permanently station USN nuclear attack / ballistic submarines in the PH; (4) Permanently station a USN amphibious ready group with an MEU (Marine Expeditionary Unit) in the PH; (5) Permanently station US Army / US Marine battalions in the PH; (6) Invite Taiwanese troops as observers for Balikatan, Salaknib, and other exercises; (7) Similar to NATO, establish an IndoPac Defense Initiative comprising all like-minded countries;
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RISK LEVEL 7: (1) Invite Taiwanese troops as full-participants for Balikatan, Salaknib, and other exercises; (2) Similar to NATO, establish an IndoPac Defense Initiative comprising all like-minded countries (including Taiwan); (3) Reestablish diplomatic relations with Taiwan; and (4) End diplomatic relations with the PRC.
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Thank you! 😊
Way to go, PH-Taiwan diplomatic Partnership and Friendship! No to China's bullying, coercion and intimidation!
Like Taiwan, Philippines is not a bully and just only want a peace and democratic country.
China is the bully!
You could almost always see news about the Philippines and China tensions on this program Taiwan Talks shows how important this US and Philippine aliance is to Taiwan. The Taiwanese knows that if ever China decides ti attack them, there's almost a certainty that these two countries will come to their aid.
Watching this program helps me to look over the content of the situations. It's like an essay that can explain plainly.
Congratulations on putting a excellent panel. They are clear eyed on the treats in the region.
Taiwan was also a cousin of the Philippines. Formerly Formosa or Isla de Hermosa, was an enclave of the Spanish Crown in the 17th century before the Dutch won in the Eighty Years War. Thru scientific genetics and genealogy, our race originated from or thru the Taiwan islands.
We share common beliefs of democracy. The Philippines will aid Taiwan should China executes her ambitions of regaining her "renegade" province. That is why the EDCA was expanded up to our northernmost tip of Basco Islands to develop it as a forward operating base (FOB) with the joint US-Philippines forces.
Greetings from the Philippines to our Asian cousin Taiwan.
Taiwan want peace full country
Let us unite for peace and for freedom.😊
americans have your guys backs. freedom overall.
One china policy = 🗑️
Filipinos acknowledge Taiwan Independence 🇵🇭🤝🏻🇹🇼
Good topic to watch
I like your Content Sir.👍👍👍
Taiwan has always been Independent Country…🤗
Taiwan and Philippines is the best due. I think this is the very best Allies and it's the best neighbor of Philippines. Hope it comes soon excited to happen 🇵🇭❤️🇹🇼
Professor Arthur Ding was referring to Philippine President Benigno AQUINO--- although he mistakenly said "President Arroyo" (a woman)---who was the one who took China to the International Court (and won).
si gloria ang isa pang taksil sa bansa..
We improve our deterrence (Phil's)- until china collapses ( economically, socially and demographically). The Phils will just have to be patient, humble and push back.
Meanwhile, we improve our military, economic capabilities.
Isn't Subic Bay now a huge Duty-free shopping zone? For example, my aunt buys her "instant oatmeal" at the huge Subic Bay Duty-free shopping zone.
The U.S. Government currently has 9 U.S Military bases in the Philippines, but the U.S. Government is now secretive about its 9 U.S. Military bases in the Philippines. The U.S. Government is not missing Subic Bay because Subic Bay is near a recently erupted volcano.
The new 9 U.S. Military bases in the Philippines are not near an active volcano.
Taiwan Numba One!
333 yrs Spain colonization of Philippines, from 1565-1898. 1521 was when Magellan, the famous European explorer who was the “first” to circumnavigate the Earth, was killed by Lapu-Lapu in Mactan Cebu. They went back after 44 yrs.
but for 300 yrs, Spain had nightmares in PH. why the US gave up easily & why Japan never lasted for more than 3 yrs on PH. lol.
As a pro democratic country let us unite as one. For peace and security.
A much closer ties between phils and Taiwan.
The Arm Forces of the Philippines Budget is only P240B while the AYUDA IS P550 ( which is the Government financial aid for non working citizens) Better suspend AYUDA for the time being and add that fund to AFP budget in order to bulk up on armaments needed by AFP for modernization undertakings necessarily needed to protect the Philippines territory from communist chinese aggression.
Subic Bay is like Pearl Harbor 👍
China’s strategy is to divide and conquer the alliance in the region to gain a naval advantage in the pacific against the west. It’s in everyone interests to prevent China from fulfilling their goals which is why a Asian NATO is needed to counter the CCP expansion and conquest. It would be impossible for countries in the region like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Philippines to avoid the conflict so the best option is to be ready and prepared for such event.
Subic naval base is very strategic because it is surrounded with thick forest and inside forest there were many missile silos. When the American left in in 1991, these missile silos were protected by the government. You can't see from above the operator of the missile silos because their barracks looks like small hill and covered with grass and small trees hidden in thick forest overlooking the whole subic bay.
By the way, the Philippines bought coastguards vessels from Japan, they are not given.
I want to make some corrections to his statement at 16:30 about donating ten (10) 55-meter ships. It's not a donation but more of a loan. Ang those ships are not used but brand new 44 meters and not 55 meters. Aside from this, Japan also provides two (2) 97 meters during the Duterte administration.
Phillipines DeLasalle speaker doesn't let the questioner finish before talking. Not too focused and loud.
Hey Taiwan.. Tell Us the philippines that our brother came home..
Remember the History of Philippine - Taiwan Relations.
Subic bay is the most strategical and it is the first defense when you get in manila bay.taiwan and Philippines throw beside their self interest and unite agints china. We believe when china attacks taiwan we automatically join the war because of the us bases here but i wonder if china attack the philippines do you think taiwan will do the same??we know we have issues also in claim in west Philippines.we believe malaysia,indonesia taiwan , vietnam enjoy the blessing of south china sea
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PLA Sails like Terrorist or Pirates in Uniform
I want Taiwan to renounce its nine dash line imaginations the root of conflict in S China Sea, our northern neighbours have history of fighting each other and adventurism now they want to go south in Malay waters to claim it for the second time. Big disrespect to Southeast Asian countries
You China must know that every country must has boundery. You must not violiolet. Our teretory and sovereign sovereign.And every nation you must respect. That nobody will be trouble.
tingin ko ang ibig mong sabihin ay boundary at violates
territory 😊
Correction, it’s was the late President Aquino not Arroyo.
Philippine Airforce should be called Philipine Groundforce since they only have footpilots.
They don't have misile crew, Drone crew, radar crew, No production crew of weapons and equipments and support crew.
I am the Philippines will defend Taiwan
i didnt know about this Subic Bay thank you for this video... love it!!!
Blamed it to the Filipino politicians for removing or not extended the contract of the American base. Now look what the Communist Chinese did… Let bring that base back and also we’ll create lots of job… lots of Filipino American would go home and maybe ret in the Philippines…😊
Hopefully Taiwan can again provides Taiwan all decommissioned F5’s to the Philippines in its new EDCA site in Lalo Airport near Taiwan.
I wonder if the idea of re establishing US bases in Philippine soil as a way of bolstering its security not just to the western territorial waters, but to the entire country has been considered by any government following the Cory government. I am not an expert on defense security, but the reason why Japan, Korea, and Taiwan have been able to keep their peace with regard to China's growing geopolitical, and military power is the fact that the U.S. maintain bases in these countries. Let us remember that any US facility is an extension of its territory. I believe the Philippines made a blunder in closing down its doors to US bases back in late the late 80's. Imagine if this idea would come to fruition, it will once again maintain a balance of power in Asia extending from the western part of the Pacific all the way to the Eastern Part.
❌NO TO WAR❗🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
The power in indo pacific must be balance so that no one will think to invade a country
Taiwan is just adamant to admit that subic is also important to them as much as Philippine needs it. 😂 but in reality what all the mainland china is claiming is same as what Taiwan is also claiming, technically Taiwan is also a smalller frienemy of the Philippines 😂😅
Yeah, i always wondered about that. In the unlikely case, what happens after the PRC is dealt ? Taiwan also has claims in the West Philippine Sea mind you.
11:18 It wasn’t Arroyo who was President before Duterte but Noynoy Aquino ….
Will Subic become another US Base again?
we don't want any of your war. we love our country and our people. We don't want to be another UKRAINE. WEDONT WANT TO BE A PUPPET OF THE US
subic is advantageous for US use in the taiwan semiconductor defense and not for some philippine fishing grounds. it's all about the semiconductors until PRC will catch up in production and taiwan will be asking to reunite and then argue with the philippines for stealing pag -asa island from them.
Taiwan is not china.taiwan is taiwan.
ASEAN COUNTRIES are in good relationship... Why would china a not member of the asean is bugging in this part?!
It's all about - 🤫😶
Is Beijing Involved On The Anti US Bases Ratification In 1991 ?
Make Taiwan Products available in the Philippines
Actually most products before especially electrical supplies are made in Taiwan and not came from China. Why suddenly changed and most products now here are made in China. Made in China mostly has no quality and it will not long last compared products made in Japan.
President ..Aquino not Arroyo took china to arbitration
Subic Bay is where US naval base is at
Greyzone tactics occupied by china with no war happened.
Aquino, not Arroyo
The Philippines is not going to fight, the Chinese Navy is currently patrolling in the coast of Balabac, Palawan. PCG / AFP has been pushback and just monitoring the chinese excursion
China is Province of Taiwan.
Philippines is the buffer zone, a satellite state.
You think we don't know that ?
@@uncommon_name9337 Good!
Buffer zone that would be Taiwan not Philippines
@@BisayangdakoVlogz The US bases are in Philippines and Japan. They are legitimate targets.
@@johntwohy8337 If that's so, every Chinese military base is too.
Taiwan must help the philippines and the philippines will help taiwan by blocking the bashi channel.
Those bases are the support to taiwan
The United States sent 2 million soldiers when Japan took over the Philippines in 1942. Let me remind China when it tries to go beyond that point of no return that China never won a war beyond it's boarders since it's conception 5000 years ago.
Sybil is the gateway to Chinese communist party😂 who are you trying to fool…😂
PLA- liar
Who is this Chinese guy speaking about the history of subic bay? He does not know anything. Only a genuine Filipino historian can accurately tells you about subic and Clark. Why subic and Clark is important for the defense of the Philippines is simple because of its strategic location as simple as that.
Subic have a lot of u s bunker missiles on that area