College Fraternity Of Assault, Exploitation, And Murder | Law & Order SVU
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- When a local fraternity member is foundered murdered, the team's investigation uncovers more shocking cases of pornography, rape, sexual assault and attempted suicide: all hidden under the guide of brotherhood
Season 5, Episode 12 'Brotherhood': SA local fraternity pledge master (Michael McDerman) is sodomized and murdered. The detectives link the crime to a pornographic website that features college girls at a local bar. The detectives discover that one of the fraternity brothers was ostracized and allegedly raped and uncover more grisly details of the various hazing rituals. A conflict of interest presents itself in court when the sadistic ring leader (Toby Moore) is represented by the father (Gary Cole) of the deceased. The investigation also hits another hurdle as the brothers refuse to talk.
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I remember this case. The guy responsible for all of this ended up being so sick that his own LAWYER turned against him, exploiting a legal loophole that let them get crucial evidence back in at trial.
What made me sick is the victim's father represented the suspect accused.
@@detmstr341Once the father realized that the guy really was guilty, he used that to help them bring the guy down.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Well, at first, I was sickened and asked, "Why would the victim's father want to defend the accused suspect of his son's death?"
@@detmstr341I think that he just didn't believe that the guy actually did it at first.
You remember this episode or was there a real case it was based on?
I hate it whenever anyone says that the victim "let" themselves get raped. It's ignorant and disgusting.
literally came to the comments to say this, no they dont LET
Yes I intentionally let myself forcibly get assaulted by people. Totally my fault.
Something Andrew Tate would say
Bloody monsters
Seriously cannot believe that line was uttered in law & order SVU.😒
@@JJNursyea the prosecutor and the psychiatrist were totally off on this one.
I think he answered his own question on why the boy didnt report it when he claims the victim let it happen
Tyler deserved to be in jail. He sold intimate videos of himself with unsuspecting women and made money off of it without their consent, assaulted several members, and god knows what else. This guy was a psychopath.
Okay, maybe there's more to college life than I know, but WTH would anyone want to join a "brotherhood" that does things like this?
Because they think its cool and it's mostly just boys being a brain dead idiot
There was a hazing death in Europe where it was explained that the guy who died came from a poor background and was convinced that the connections he would make through the fraternity would set him up for financial success. Some people probably justify it to themselves that a few weeks/months of torture now in exchange for a life of privilege is worth it.
@@Teriyakioxo yeah, pretty much. greek life is a lot like a gang, if you endure the initiation you're afforded the strength of the whole fraternity/sorority backing you up. resources, connections, socializing, sheer numbers to help you get what you want.
At my college we have to do seminars on not to haze people and not to SA people, or anything of any natural that causes harm or anything.
@@wolfy7890yeah mine too. Our “hazing” was a scavenger hunt where we did stuff like take pictures with the school statue and in front some of the frats and local restaurants
I wish they kept in the part where they arrested the frat guy responsible for all of this and Stabler says, "you have the right to an attorney. In the event that Mommy and Daddy can't get you one...."
Not the prosecuting attorney sitting here victim blaming. Good lord. “Why didn’t he report it?” Give me a break. It’s hard enough for a woman to report it. Can you imagine how much harder it is for a man to report being raped?
Exactly!
right!?
This is entirely true. The shame people feel can be very overwhelming. Although it is never their fault it doesn’t really matter. Victim blaming is never the answer
Literally 😪😪
Victim blaming so sick even when they said “he let it happen”
I almost joined a fraternity in the late 70's and that particular one turned out be real trouble. One of my older relatives was a member and was at that time on the board of the fraternity so even though I never became a member I knew more than the average non-member. Girls were being what is now called date-raped after being drugged. That fraternity meant a lot to my relative and he was so disgusted that he wrote a letter to the future father-in-law of the chapter president to tell the man what a sleaze his daughter was engaged to. My relative also wanted to shut the whole place down and "re-colonize" with all new members and he was kicking members out. My recollection is that some had the option to resign from the fraternity or go to jail. My relative died in an un-related highway crash during this time so I never knew what happened next.
Your relative sounds like a real great guy, Andy.
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The way you tell it, it kinda sounds like his death wasn't so unrelated.
@@alexandersison2030 It really was an accident. My relative's car was hit from behind by another vehicle that slid on ice, pushing his car into a head-on collision with an oncoming coal truck whose dumb-a** driver was going too fast around a curve, was over the center line and, I was told, was already being followed by the police. None of the people in the crash had any connection with one another and it was something that couldn't be planned; just a "perfect storm" of circumstances that ended in an innocent person's gruesome death. To the best of my knowledge the guilty driver was uninjured. Later there was a wrongful death suit that was won by my family's side.
sad to hear
This is why more and more people need to speak out on the harms that some people in college organizations can face. I know people who faced hazing and never was in Greek life. My friends have met parents of a frat member hazed to death and they only condone the frat while not Greek life. The parents speak out every year about hazing to all Greek life students.
You can speak out but when you have judges .lawyers, people who work in college schools that pledge they will cover it up
@@courtneyparrish8576 Understood. The frat members at fault for the hazing death had reputable lawyers but still lost the case.
Spoilers in case anyone hasn't viewed the episode yet,
The fraternity leader was responsible for beating/abusing the pledges with the murder victim in this video. He almost doesn't get charged because his lawyer (the father of the murder victim) gets the club ledger thrown out due to it being stolen evidence. However, the lawyer then has it re-admitted using a legal loophole, where the fraternity leader is forced to tell the court what he did to the abuse victim.
It's skin crawling.
Thanks for the information.
This episode really emphasized How being a bully Could lead to certain consequences .
Can we all take a second to guffaw at the “I got something” - “What is it?” and a fucking human body emerges without any musical or editorial acknowledgement
It's so ridiculous but I love it 😅
@@malayacarey69for real. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Straight up jump scare lol
There is literally music there.
I thought a confession under sedation wouldn't be admissible?
Correct.
In Will's case, he got a lighter sentence in exchange for helping them to put away the sicko (NOT the word that I want to use here by the way!!!) responsible for all of this. The guy was so sick that his own LAWYER helped put him away in the end!!!
I don't think he was sedated. Plus he's clearly aware of what's going on.
the fact that fraternities or sororities are still allowed in some places knowing stuff like this still happen baffles me
Maybe they do it, to maintain at least some sort of control. Like they tolerate them existing, so long as they don't go too far. I know that maybe sound stupid, but that is 1 only 1 reason I could think of.
They're social cesspools.
It's enough to make a grown man cry.
Has to do with money..The parents make large donations so their children can stay in school..
Fraternities aren't like this but incidents do happen sometimes.
3:30 anyone else find it odd that they don't react to her saying she was being filmed without consent? I mean I know the guys dead but that's normally the kind of crime they investigate and they show zero sympathy
yeah every single video there was worthy of an SVU ep itself, IDK why they just pass them
Might have been cause the kid who did it was dead so there was no way to proceed with it?
@@Delly16 but they could've 1 taken them down 2 prosecute everyone involved, including the guys that knew of it
@@marianabobadilla1872 I can’t even remember what happened in this video but I am going to agree with you 😂
And after this it drove him to become a lawyer with his best friend who moonlights as the devil of Hell’s Kitchen.
My first thought was, "Is he Foggy Nelson?"
Haha!!
Why is it when a victim becomes a killer do the police do something yet they don't help whe. the victim reports it
Same pattern everywhere - it's not just in college. Bullies in grade school get to beat up on whoever they want, but as soon as a victim stands up for themselves, it's the victim who gets busted.
@@thebyrd433 Because bullies run the schools and the precincts
Victim blaming infuriates me so much
Oh, you've no idea. I know.
I thought about rushing a frat when I first started college back in 2013, but I was an shy, awkward, high functioning autistic without meds that was way too trusting and eager to connect with people. I don't think I would have survived the hazing.
Idk why but it always irritates me when the detectives bust into a hospital or surgery and interrupt. Yeah sure it might be serious but let's interrupt anyway!
The doctors on ER would never let them do that
Like, they are going to really get anything coherent. Nothing would be admissible in court.
@@feraltaco4783somehow they made it all stick!
Yea, this always drives me nuts. And I don’t know what the law is on that anyway. I don’t know how much that would be admissible in court considering the circumstances and if the hospital is even required to let them talk to the patient under the circumstances.
Reminds me of that nurse who was arrested I think for not allowing them to draw blood from I believe an unconscious patient. Pretty sure she won’t a pretty hefty lawsuit.
I heard rumors that they do this because the patient might die in surgery, and then the detectives have nothing to follow up. Also, if the patient survives surgery you are then just getting more information/details from what they said earlier. There is another crime drama that seems relevant here 'Silent Witness'. However, yes, the priority should be life... but if the detectives caused sufficient delay they could just be creating future work for themselves. You know, guaranteeing themselves a future pay cheque. This of course only occurs in drama/story world.
I’m honestly glad I didn’t give in to the pressure of joining a sorority. I know it’s good to try and branch out socially when you’re in college, but the way these groups described themselves made me feel as if I would be signing some kind of lifetime contract, almost like a cult.
"I got something."
"What is it?"
*Bloop, here's a body*
That happened to a body of mine when he worked at K-Mart
Foggy really cleaned up after this.
EXACTLY what I thought!
The add was perfect on this video, since right when he was gonna show what was on the pc, an ad on steel pans showed up
Perfect timing
Getting a confession out of a dude delirious from a car accident? No way that holds up in court.
this is why i never joined a Greek house while in college. and lived at home.
Are you cute?
tf???
I love how abrupt the body found clip is lol
Straight up jump scare lol
Ned is superb playing different characters on the law and order shows. But,plays a great lawyer as well
People have no idea campus life have the worst kind of animals on board goading each other to do horrible things. Ugh. I'm glad i finished college. But the big ones always have stories.
Wow Olivia's sparkling attitude inspired me to watch till the end of this video
What exactly are the benefits of being in a fraternity?
Connections
Connections, colors, you're basically famous on campus depending on the frat, girl's trying to get close to you, etc. Personally never saw got the craze about it since I could get all of that without pledging. After hearing the stories and a frat on my campus getting trouble for hazing I didn't bother.
You won't get bullied
You will have more friends
@@99mrpogihaha if you’re not weak you won’t get bullied regardless. Frat boys are soft
I loathe them but at certain influential universities in the US, frat brothers (or sisters) will help get you key jobs in important industries post college. Like being a Freemason.
He confessed, yeah on his way to emergency surgery, after purposely crashing into a wall.
I was a loner at college. Never once did I even consider joining those greek fraternities. The only organization I ever joined was theater.
If I was ever told something like that as an initiation, I would leave immediately, regardless if anyone called me a quitter. I’d at least know that a real man knows his limits.
We don't have greek fraternities in the UK.
Did you kill Tyler?
Yeah, I’m sorry
😶…
The guy who murdered the college student got tired of being pushed around, bullied, beaten ,assaulted sexually, and others while being part of a Brotherhood Fraternity Pledge Class. Murder and sexual assault is disgusting and unacceptable for anybody to kill another person in a gruesome way.
Murder and Sexual Assaults is disgusting and mind blowing for anybody to go through when somebody else commits these terrible acts/crimes.
Yeah I'm glad I didn't go to college
*plot twist* He later became a defense lawyer with his best friend who is blind.
RIP RICHARD BELZER
This is why I have a hard time with Fraternity’s, it’s like the background of them leads you to want to join and belong only to end up putting yourself at risk of getting hurt or even dying! I get the guy wanted out of it, but killing the dude wasn’t the answer! He simply could have just went to the police and the dude would get punishment- now he’ll have to live with the fact though that he’s the one going to jail instead of speaking up and putting his abuser in jail.
Nathan and Alicia didn't know that Nathan's roommate Will killed Tyler because Tyler made Will miserable in the Brotherhood Fraternity Pledge Class. Will got fed up with Tyler's abusive behavior.
These shows would be really boring if everyone did what they should do, which is say nothing and ask for a lawyer.
As a professional violinist I can say that nobody would put their expensive bow in a place like that. You would use the cheap one. 😂
And people still wonder why men almost never report being assaulted of any kind.
That laptop would have been priveleged! She should have talked to them in the doorway and never let them inside!
Once I got called in to speak with police. The second they raised their voice and got rude, I got up and walked out! They tried to apologize and I said "No. I came in voluntarily to help you. You will not talk to me like that"! "You have to learn"!
Also, in reality if the police tried to stop someone from going into a life/death surgery and then tried to come in and talk to him after just coming out of surgery, they would be sued! And also, as a defense attorney, I'd have wvery single word he said thrown out of evidence! You dont question someone fresh out of surgery!
I remember watching this when it first aired.
5:29 that is so out of pocket
If this is what goes down in college... Im terrified for my incoming year💀
Just avoid anything greek life related and NEVER let your friends leave a party alone
@@robertstull8759 thanks for the tip man! :)
This is a not common occurrence and plus it’s a fictional story. You’d fine these cases more when it’s not Greek life related.
I love this episode I can’t believe the dad of the victim is the dad from Kim possible
They shouldn’t be talking to the cops without a lawyer.
What's insane is these still exist to this day. I visited a buddy who goes to Oklahoma State and he pointed to a fraternity house that is known for date raping people and its still allowed to open its doors. It's sick really.
USA rich rule
Why the American education system is a mess
That’s me and you are?…🫱🏻
Arresting you…😂😂
That’s it. I’m never ever going to college. No matter how much daddy wants to pay me.
The fact that a lot of frats are like this, makes me want to skip out on the connections that they may offer for success.
Frats are just another form a gang, just different context and backed by money and racial power.
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The golden age of SVU
Asking for a lawyer is not suspicious or an admission of guilt. For once, a character on this show did the smart thing. Never talk to the cops without a lawyer.
They all need to go to jail, hiding what they know
I like the twist at the end of this episode.
Woah- why is this video cut like this?
That's very disturbing on how the kid wasn't gonna pay three grand for replacing his violin equipment after the college student got assaulted and murdered with it and got thrown into the water containment center.
Campus darkside crime some alibi never know to public !
I get it’s a show but so unrealistic. No one with half a brain speaks to cops without a lawyer.
But there are a lot of people who don't have half a brain.
So--it's realistic.
There's thousands of hours of police interviews available on TH-cam that prove otherwise
Watched several crime interrogation videos this week - happens on a daily.
The most unrealistic part is when the psychologist stated the last sentence of the video…
Ah, when are they gonna ad season 5 to TH-cam?
I love Olivia Benson
This show has often put college kids in a terrible light. Making them look bad
1 in 5 women and 1 in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college.
There’s a reason they do this
Especially wealthy ones.
@@james-p Oh yeah. That too. Kids of wealthy parents think they’re untouchable because those parents don’t always teach their kids any better
Violin strings are made of horsehair, you learn something new everyday.
Which episode is this ?
Ice T is a savage.. love him❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Foggy Nelson!
These boys, what was they thinking 🤔 doing those things to each other
I didn’t like what he did to those girls
2:18 “…even got one with Pink hair”
Omg guys she has dyed hair, ain’t that something 💀like, ok my guy, that’s the least of our concerns rn
It’s just identifiable. I have pink hair. When people don’t know me they say pink haired girl. It’s not bad lol
No need for CSI NY
Fulton Reed should have gotten Gordon Bombay to represent him. He would have had that thing thrown out before he was out of surgery
Quack quack. Ducks fly together
He wants to provide legal services to disenfranchised people in Hell's Kitchen. He should know better.
Some people committed suicide while I attended a University. One jumped from a library building onto the sidewalk. I walked past by him that early morning. I mean his body. It must have been around 5 a.m. or something. Another committed suicide because he was outed by another student. People can be so cruel.
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This was the Serena Williams episode.
Not sure about that but I know that Kristen Schall was in this episode (voice of Louise Belcher and Mabel Pines).
It’s funny the victims get treated as horribly as they do in real life. Was watching the episode with Winston Duke the other day. And it was similar situation except a football player they never at any point talk to the male cheerleader like the assaulter he is. They never mention how much time he’s getting for what he did.
No one! This t.v.😊
@@RodricBeauregard Giving a thumbs up to your own comments doesn't count either
@ dork!
@@RodricBeauregard your mother
@@RodricBeauregard Still waiting, mamma's boy. Can't come up with anything original?
Ruptured spleen isn't something to delay
Not one of their better episodes.
9:04 WTF ZAWG that is not the take here
jesus christ
The ADA sucks sometimes
Tv would have us believe that,people never as for a lawye!
Fulton Reed
He a college student not a toddler running around department store you’ll find him or finding a lost dog Tyler come here
Foggy Nelson
Foggy nelson
This is why I'm so happy that Denmark doesn't have the stupid frat culture
A victim? You guys, the threat was “do this, or you won’t be able to join a fraternity.”
Jesus Christ
This is such a goofy show😂 the young actors r so bad.
Olivia Benson Said To Taylor Henry Junior How Much do You figure in the pan helenic Tesasury When She Put Her Arms Up When Starting at Him Taylor Henry Junior said 70 Maybe 80 Grand He Look at Olivia When She Was Turned Her Head Starting at Him Olivia Becoming Be Natural Like Acting Parent For Taylor Henry Because She is Police Detective When She Was Looking at Taylor Henry Olivia Said Will Comes Door Can We Come Olivia Said Will kind late to be getting out of bed he said yeah i pulled an all nighter
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Why didn't the woman wit the pink hair dye her back? Its not like it looked good.
Isn't that the guy from daredevil??
Yep it's Foggy
It’s funny the victims get treated as horribly as they do in real life. Was watching the episode with Winston Duke the other day. And it was similar situation except a football player they never at any point talk to the male cheerleader like the assaulter he is. They never mention how much time he’s getting for what he did.