A Hundred-Year Symphony Sampler (1780s-1880s)
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- A Hundred-Year Symphony Sampler (1780s-1880s)
Haydn: Symphony No. 86 in D major
Mozart: Symphony No. 40 in G minor
Beethoven: Symphony No. 7
Mendelssohn: Symphony no. 3 “Scottish”
Schumann: Symphony No. 4
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4
Brahms: Symphony No. 2
Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3 “Organ”
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8
Mahler: Symphony No. 1 - เพลง
Great idea! Can't wait to see this series unfold over time. These "beginners" lists of yours are helpful not just for beginners, but also benefit those of us who've listened to classical music for a long while, but have learned about music more or less on our own (not musicians or musical scholars). Your lists help me find the holes in my knowledge and shore up what is, in places, a somewhat rickety foundation.
Fantastic idea! Looking forward to the subsequent installments in this series 👍
Fantastic idea for video topic, and spot on.
Looking forward to more 👍
A hundred years doesn't in the scheme of things seem all that long a period of time, but looking over your list Dave, it surely was light years in the history of music composition. Imagine, Haydn to Mahler in just 100 years! Miracles can happen. Thanks Dave, I look forward to your future installments. Take care!
I’m listening to Mendelssohn’s Scottish right now with Karajan BPO
What a fabulous overview, Dave. Thank you so much.
Props for including Schumann's 4th, this one seems to be the red-headed step child of his 4 symphonies. I think it is his best symphony. I particularly enjoy the dark brooding slow opening bars before it starts into it's main theme. Schumann (at least my perception of things) never gets talked about with the great symphonists of that era which I think does the composer a disservice.
Tchaik 4 - my absolute all-time favourite. Has been since I was a teenager and my loyalty to it has never wavered over the half-century plus since. That last movement is, as you say, a desperate effort, since the fate theme returns before the coda, but no effort is made to overcome it.
Tchaik S4 was the first symphony that I ever loved. My version was Loren Maazel with the Cleveland Orchestra on Telarc. Now, nearly 41 years later, it remains MY reference recording.
@@jamotter8967 I started with the set by Maazel & the Vienna Phil!
What a brilliant idea, can't wait to hear more, especially on opera which I love and won't get at you for your choices 😊
Good day Dave! I have a question for you which I’ve been wondering about for a while now. Have you ever considered starting to compose your own music? As someone that listens more to music than almost any other person on average your head must be filled with tunes and musical form on a whole. From your previous backgrounds I could very well imagine you being the first composer of a tam-tam concerto! - kidding, kidding… It is a genuine question, as you have demonstrated the skill to remember countless of melodies on the spot.
Kind regards, Bil from Sweden
Those who can't do criticize those who can!
The start of a great tour. Hope it continues...
Love the concept Dave, looking forward to more!
I fear I put the 'O' into CD and a few months ago I chronokigically listed my collection of 250 or so symphonies - some famous, some obscure - and then played them in date order of composition. What I noticed was a general (if not linear) progression of styles, until the 1870s/80s/90s which had such a juxtaposition between the Brahms, Tchaikovsky, Dvorak wing and the avant garde of Bruckner and Mahler. I found the mix fascinating and made me listen more attentively to some works I previously found hard going
I tend to be very much "in the moment" with music. It's often hard for me to see the broader picture. I really appreciate your insights into that broader picture, both in individual works and the tradition as a whole, apropos this new series!
The last mvt of the Brahms 2nd has a virtual "pre-quote" of the Mahler 1st. And both seem to look back to Beethoven's 4th.
Yes. Just before the coda.
Sounds amazing!! I still consider myself a beginner and jumping from music period of time randomly, so this will give me some system and perspective. Looking forward to this series.
What about make Spotify playlist for every video of this series?
I have nothing to do with Spotify. I think someone else is doing it, thought.
Let's have a crack at record recommendations that would get HurwitzTube-approval (without necessarily aping the references or "best" recommendations):
Haydn: Symphony No. 86 in D major: Lenny Bernstein, NYPhil
Mozart: Symphony No. 40 in G minor: Colin Davis, Dresden
Beethoven: Symphony No. 7: Herbie v. Karajan 70s, Berlin
Mendelssohn: Symphony no. 3 “Scottish”: Christoph v. Dohnanyi, Vienna
Schumann: Symphony No. 4: Simon Gaudenz, Odense (!) Or Levine, Berlin
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4: Markevitch, LSO
Brahms: Symphony No. 2: Günter Wand, NDRSO
Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3 “Organ”: Edo de Waart & Jean Guillou, SFS
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8: Witold Rowicki, LSO
Mahler: Symphony No. 1: Seiji Ozawa, Boston, DG
18:48 scared the sh*t out of me 🤣. Speaking of which: pretty in line with Mahler 1, that was my first experience with a jumpscare in classical music (transition mvm 3-4)!
Edit: maybe next video idea? Best jumpscare moments in symphonies haha
Leinsdorf/BSO handles that moment particularly well. I know it’s coming yet I STILL dread it!
Have to look out for that one then!
Great job Dave, as always. I love how you always explain the whys and not just the whats. And I thought I got a text message at 18:49 lol!
EDIT: Maybe for beginners you want to add a recommended recording?
There are videos with recording recommendations, and for our purposes I'm not so concerned with which recording. What matters is simply to hear the music.
A very worthy list. Perhaps I’ll assemble a Spotify playlist and use THE BEST of videos for each symphony. Then again, I’m lazy, maybe another commenty person will do that.
It is not clear what Dave's method of grouping compositions was in this set, but that may become clear in later posts. Whatever it is, this first set includes five of my top ten favorite symphonies. This will be instructive.
My method is to choose ten works and place them in roughly chronological order. That's it. The music speaks for itself.
Another engaging idea, and while its virtually impossible to choose just one example for the first three composers, it becomes a lot easier to do for the romantics, and those are all appealing selections. But I suspect your computer would have preferred that you picked the Brahms 4th, as it was obviously auditioning for the triangle part in the third movement.
Yes (sigh).
Great idea,and great list except I'm puzzled by the lack of Schubert.
Where is it written composer X must or must not be included? It's just a chronological list of 10 symphonies. It could have been more, it could have been less. Maybe Schubert will show up in another list.
Plus, you’d have to get rid of someone/something rather delightful to add Schubert.
@@AlexMadorsky I would gladly swap out Saint-Saens 3rd (easily the least profound of those listed) for Schuberts Great C Major, but that just may be due to my lack of enthusiasm for organs used in orchestral contexts.
@@owlcowl I’m usually not a big “organ with orchestra” guy either, but I make an exception for the Saint-Seanz 3rd. As for profundity, I guess that’s not a quality I demand from every piece of music I listen to. I need a break from deadly serious Austro-German fare every once in a while. The Great C Major is a remarkable work, but I find it can be tiring and drag in the hands of the wrong ensemble and/or conductor. I tend to prefer The Unfinished.
Also the lack of Bruckner (the 7th with its Requiem mvt for Wagner) !