Did Hawaiians worship God?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- This is definitely a topic we need to dive deeper in future episodes
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Having grown up in Hawaii and am now a Christian I wonder if others struggle at times with living out their love for Jesus and being a new creation with their love for Hawaii, the people and culture? For instance, what do we really mean when we say can feel the aloha spirit in people? Does someone filled with the Holy Spirit live and lead with aloha? Or Hula comes to mind, beautiful way to express and pass down stories, preserve tradition and culture. But as a Christian, now when I hear some of the chants and the pahu It feels dark. All this to say, awesome conversation. Looking forward to the next one 🙏🤙
You can tell in this episode, he’s not completely comfortable speaking on this particular subject as other ones he has. Why tho? Why does people have a hard time speaking when it comes to their belief/faith? You should NEVER waiver in your belief/faith if you TRULY believe in it. Stand firm period.
his knowledge is of the world
cause its all orally past down and nothing is verifiable
@@anolivetreeisgrowing oral tradition is just as reliable as written tradition
@@lukebulman767 lol no its not
@@anolivetreeisgrowing would you be able to provide a tangible example of oral tradition being weaker than written tradition? I'm curious; just in the same way we trust written tradition and can clearly see when there's an unreliable outlier that ought not be trusted is the same with oral tradition. There is countless examples of extremely reliable oral tradition in the levant, India, sub-saharan Africa, oceania, + the americas.
The King of Tonga did something very similar when converting to Christianity. He went to Samoa got his traditional tattoo, then came back waged war on his rivals, making the kingdom a Christian state, created a constitution that locked in his family as royals and allies as nobles, and band all heathen practices (to include traditional tattooing).
There is a book called God of Light God of Darkness. Shares and touches on this from Hawaiians.
There is a book called Perpetuated in Righteousness that talks about Hawaiians and other cultures following one god.
Both written by Daniel Kikawa, pastor from Hilo. Great books
Finally a legit Hawaii podcast
5:12 nope. you erase the false idols. As stated in the first commandment.
Jordan Maxwell. The bible " the greatest story ever told "
Much love to this man
this not the guy to talk to about this
You should speak up then.
What you got to say
Do ur due diligence
Go look em up genuinely
No rely on Babylon system kula nui and the publisher
It IS mutually exclusive! 5:19
It’s not about “erasing” it, but replacing it. Regardless of what we remember, it’s coming to recognize and embracing the Truth over lies. You cannot “incorporate” both - One God and many gods - that’s simple logic. It’s either or. Even God Himself - the One True God doesn’t tolerate that (Is.43:10) 🤙🏽
Europeans actually did this as well. When converting to Christianity, Britain (specifically) assimilated the ancient Germanic/Anglo-Saxon mythology into their Christian worldview by altering the narrative to have Woden/Odin portrayed as an ancient Saint.
It's fun to have this conversation because the popular narrative in Aloha Aina today is that "everything West is bad", even if some of these things we associate with the "West" aren't actually from there. Christianity is one of those things, being a religion from the Levant. Chess is often considered a "Western" game, but it's from India. Law codes and writing are often associated with the "West" as well, but both concepts originated from Sumeria and the Levant, respectively. Even guns and cannons are associated with the "West" but both inventions originate from China.
Why can't Hawaii and Hawaiian culture assimilate and naturalize *foreign* cultural aspects into its own? Are we obsessed with a romanticized version of our "noble savage" past? I think we as a lahui needs to let go of that.
Yup! In Hawaiian-Christian churches some of the terms are from the old religion also. i.e ahu, kahu, Hookupu, mohai, luakini etc ...
Educate your self . change is coming.
many people may say that there isn’t any physical proof, but the city of refuge shows that proof. As the bible highlights the sons of Aaron the priest were to care for the city of refuge.
They are associated with the Israelites there are references by David Malo and other notable Hawaiian historians.
Maui was born in Egypt
God creator father yhwh the creator has many names. The Hawaiians had a name for the creator I'O
1 Corinthians 10:20
But I say, that the things which the gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to devils: and I would not that ye have fellowship with devils.
What Paul is basically saying is all other gods are demons, and they're practiser is worshipping other gods, demons, and not the one true GOD, the Lord of all creation, the GOD of Israel.
Thank you Father for your Son our Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
God Most High
Queen kaahumanu braught over the first Christian missionaries ever to Hawaii she ran away from her husband king Kamehameha swam to Maui with her dogs and braught christians over to teach about the true God that's why Maui county has a lot of church and slot of Hawaiians who strongly believe in God..and our lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Lets not forget the wars that were faught between kanaka after the aikapu was broken.
Hawains worshipped gods... plural. And kamehameha denounced those gods on favor of Christian God when he saw the Europeans immunity to diseases that affected Hawaiians. Kamehameha broke the religion, his son banned hula....
He’s talking about long BEFORE the migrations. The “plural” god’s came with the migrations.
@lw1814 before what migration?
@@swirledworld340 the migrations of Pa’ao, Pele etc.
no that's wrong
Hewahewa did um
The ‘aikapu system wasn’t “abolished” until Kamehameha’s son Liholiho didn’t reinstate it after the death of Kamehameha 1st. A period of ‘ainoa or free eating followed the death of a mō’ī and the custom was to reinstate it but Liholiho made the decision not to do so though he was under the heavy influence of Keopuolani and Ka’ahumanu (two of Kamehameha 1st’s wives) who would have greatly benefitted from the abolishment as well as Hewahewa who was Kamehameha 1st’s head priest who had lost faith in the Hawaiian gods in the face of foreign disease and conquest.
th-cam.com/video/CCSigUZbD2Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_MoMFEHMzNeqUk6U Uncle from Molokai briefly talks about this here in the 3rd part of this series.
what about Hewahewa
Since there is only one, of course they did. There is still only one, but many evidences each may be an aspect of the one. It is only about how confused the individual is about one vs many.
Ancient alien's on history channel. Or youtube. Hawaii's link to extraterrestrial life. Posted 5 day's ago. Will bring light to this subject.
Jesus visited the Hawaiians after being ressurected. Its when captain cook visited hundreds of years later they thought it was that Jesus or in the Hawaiians case Lono their ancestors talked about.
would king kamehameha been considered a sellout today?
Explain your question?
@gboplaze6490 by joining with the British and bringing in Christianity to the islands, did king Kamehameha betray his people that way and sold them out with demographic replacement by requesting from captain Vancouver that the ministers move in to the islands and start mixing race with the Hawaiians. I mean today there's no single original pure blood Hawaiian left on the islands that I know of. They're all mixes with Mexican, Puerto Ricans, Koreans, Japanese, whites etc? Did king sell out?
@@Kaniala-l7sno. King kamehameha was more wise than Hawaiians today Hawaiians today are commoners. Bringing God to us by request was an act of love for us. Anybody who says otherwise is a dub.
We did believe in one God until we were kicked out of Israel and forced to scatter towards where we ended up,in “Polynesia” adopting the culture and traditions, languages and “other Gods”… deuteronomy 27:15-68…then we travelled to lands “where no man had dwelled “ as stated in the apocrypha… we forgot about our one true God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob because that’s what God said in Deutoronomy 28. Why u think of all the “Polynesian “ cultures, we the only one lost our language, our monarchs, our culture and traditions and we the only one who set up rock alters, just as we did back in Israel/ Jerusalem…the Bible speaks clearly of our history, just nobody pays attention 😢
Also the true Jews are the so called African Americans, who technically are not African. They were forced down to Africa and that’s where the north country took them as slaves. That’s also in the Bible before it even happened. But they come from the tribes of Judah Levi and Benjamin, they are the real children of Israel!!
Who is that speaking?
The white man, YES, THE WHITE MAN came to teach us their White God and laws ..psalms 83:3-9 so that they can cause confusion of who we truly are
Human Sacrifice and CANNIBALISM is an indication of what kind of deities they had. These are WELL KNOWN practices taught in Hawaiian Studies.
Canablism is made up by Erupopeans there is no evidence what so ever of this practice. None! Stop lying.
this dr literally tells you who the true hawaiians are
we dont know means you dont know cause its not yo mo olelo to know there are hawaiians who never “arrived” and were always here in these islands
kam schools raises americans
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