Looks like you had enough room for 40x40x20mm you could have used the Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX that are faster. quieter, and move more air. Would help get the temp down even further.
Put a couple of quiet fans in an ebay Dell 24-Port Switch and has been running quiet for the past year. The next time I will up-grade to Noctua quiet fans... Thank you for the video ! tjl
A friend of mine is setting up a linux box. Considering pfsense wants aes-ni capable CPU chips these days, will a dual core 1ghz asrock c70m1 motherboard bundle do that?
Hi there. Well I have a question ^^ But it doesn't have anything to do with PC cooling, but head cooling. In your opinion, do these fans are strong enough to cool me down if I would instal them in a helmet? (Stormtrooper helmet to be exact, and it gets pretty warm in them). There are special kits for that, but I think these fans might be stronger and for sure cheaper than buing the kit. Cheers ^^
Hello there. Well that is definitely a different question from the usual! haha. While I'm no expert in head-cooling, I imagine these should work fine yes. They are pretty quiet and move a lot of air when compared to other brands. Noctua are regarded as really good in the fans and cooling department so I'd go ahead and buy some, try them out! Hope this helps. --Nathan
Thank you very much for your answer ^^ It sure helps :) First I will just try to mount a cheap fan, see how it fits etc, and if it works I will go for a the better quality of Noctua. Thank you again and have a nice day or night!
I know this is a pretty old video but I have a question? Can you rotate the gpu 180° so that the IO ports are on the inside and would the PCI extension cable let you do that? Or would I need two extension cables?
That's an interesting one and honestly I am not sure how you could do that. You rely on the backplate to screw the PCI card into a case and mount/hold it - so if you installed it in reverse with the ports inside you wouldn't have anything to screw/mount the card in the case with. Unless you could fabricate or make up some kind of bracket to do it. Hope this is somewhat helpful? Sorry I can't really say. --Nathan
What kind of setup will you be going with, considering the change to pfSense and the new AES requirements? From what I can tell the Intel Atom D510 does not support AES. I ran in to this with my current setup. Have to rebuild another box now.
New requirements? I'm not aware of those. What's the changes and what's it all about? I really hope I don't have to rebuild everything, I would rather stick with the latest working version for this hardware I think and I have multiple boxes with very similar configurations.
Check it out here: www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-5-and-aes-ni.html "we do want to give early notice that, in order to support the increased cryptographic loads that we see as part of pfSense verison 2.5, pfSense Community Edition version 2.5 will include a requirement that the CPU supports AES-NI." I had an old Core2duo box, worked perfectly. Was planing on getting more ram and I saw this. At this point for me I don't feel it is cost effective to build another system for myself. Considering the chipset does not support any CPU's that are AES-ni compliant. From what I am seeing on Ark, the Intel Atom D510 does not support AES-ni either. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
No problem, I've done a little reading and it might be worth trying OpenSense, a fork of pfSense. As it seems they will continue support for non AES-NI chips. My option for now though shall be to just not upgrade to the latest versions as I don't have time or intention of upgrading all of my pfSense machines hardware.
I agree with what you are saying. The thing that frustrates me is that on some forums where people are asking how are they supposed to update their systems to be compliant, pfSense basically said "Sorry, but we have affordable options for your business that are AES-ni compliant" I understand for a free open source firewall, they need to start making money, but I really didn't like that approach. I've been playing with OpenSense, and with what I've tested so far, pfSense is still king. I had Snort, Squid, OpenVPN, and PIA installed though my home network and worked beautifully. OpenSense has some cool features too, but not as well written as pfSense.
I feel this approach is likely after the software has changed hands, as it recently did as the copyright changed too didn't it? That solution is more likely to bring them a lot more hate than anything, sure it could bring them a bit more income too but there's better ways of going about such things. But for me right now I'll just keep my old versions of pfSense running into the future, maybe even for the foreseeable future as I don't see a real massive need to upgrade.
I don't use Haproxy so I can't answer that. I have two WAN two LAN at the moment setup on it, I'm running 2x 80Mb down 20Mb up VDSL2+ based Fibre connections, so that's a total of 160Mb down and 40Mb up combined and I can pull that through the firewall to either lan all-day-every-day without it even breaking a sweat! CPU use when pulling 155Mbps~ through the firewall over a multi-WAN gateway sits at just 25-30%. Hope this has been some help! --Nathan
The cooler that hardware runs the better for its lifespan and it also prevents the server/firewall unit becoming a rack / room heater and overheating through the summer periods.
Hi there. That would really depend on the competence level of the individual really and if they know what they're doing and touching within the system. For example in datacentres and on professional servers many things are very much hot-plug and designed to be changed without causing any unnecessary system downtime. I'm very confident and know what I'm doing. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone go touching motherboard components unnecessarily while a system is running haha. Thanks for your concern though. :) --Nathan
@@NathanPH Yes but accidents do happen. Like twitch of your finger bumped something causing a short. Or dropped a screw accidently onto the motherboard. It happens then your users be mad for extended downtime vs a few mins of planned downtime.
Looks like you had enough room for 40x40x20mm you could have used the Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX that are faster. quieter, and move more air. Would help get the temp down even further.
Put a couple of quiet fans in an ebay Dell 24-Port Switch and has been running quiet for the past year. The next time I will up-grade to Noctua quiet fans... Thank you for the video ! tjl
We’re these louder without the low noise adapters than the original fans? 🙏
A friend of mine is setting up a linux box. Considering pfsense wants aes-ni capable CPU chips these days, will a dual core 1ghz asrock c70m1 motherboard bundle do that?
Hi there. Well I have a question ^^ But it doesn't have anything to do with PC cooling, but head cooling. In your opinion, do these fans are strong enough to cool me down if I would instal them in a helmet? (Stormtrooper helmet to be exact, and it gets pretty warm in them). There are special kits for that, but I think these fans might be stronger and for sure cheaper than buing the kit. Cheers ^^
Hello there. Well that is definitely a different question from the usual! haha. While I'm no expert in head-cooling, I imagine these should work fine yes. They are pretty quiet and move a lot of air when compared to other brands. Noctua are regarded as really good in the fans and cooling department so I'd go ahead and buy some, try them out!
Hope this helps.
--Nathan
Thank you very much for your answer ^^ It sure helps :) First I will just try to mount a cheap fan, see how it fits etc, and if it works I will go for a the better quality of Noctua. Thank you again and have a nice day or night!
@@NathanPH I'M also watching your video because I'm making a Solar powered fan hat. funny small world.
I know this is a pretty old video but I have a question?
Can you rotate the gpu 180° so that the IO ports are on the inside and would the PCI extension cable let you do that? Or would I need two extension cables?
That's an interesting one and honestly I am not sure how you could do that. You rely on the backplate to screw the PCI card into a case and mount/hold it - so if you installed it in reverse with the ports inside you wouldn't have anything to screw/mount the card in the case with.
Unless you could fabricate or make up some kind of bracket to do it.
Hope this is somewhat helpful? Sorry I can't really say.
--Nathan
What kind of setup will you be going with, considering the change to pfSense and the new AES requirements? From what I can tell the Intel Atom D510 does not support AES. I ran in to this with my current setup. Have to rebuild another box now.
New requirements? I'm not aware of those. What's the changes and what's it all about?
I really hope I don't have to rebuild everything, I would rather stick with the latest working version for this hardware I think and I have multiple boxes with very similar configurations.
Check it out here: www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-5-and-aes-ni.html
"we do want to give early notice that, in order to support the increased cryptographic loads that we see as part of pfSense verison 2.5, pfSense Community Edition version 2.5 will include a requirement that the CPU supports AES-NI."
I had an old Core2duo box, worked perfectly. Was planing on getting more ram and I saw this.
At this point for me I don't feel it is cost effective to build another system for myself. Considering the chipset does not support any CPU's that are AES-ni compliant.
From what I am seeing on Ark, the Intel Atom D510 does not support AES-ni either.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
No problem, I've done a little reading and it might be worth trying OpenSense, a fork of pfSense. As it seems they will continue support for non AES-NI chips. My option for now though shall be to just not upgrade to the latest versions as I don't have time or intention of upgrading all of my pfSense machines hardware.
I agree with what you are saying. The thing that frustrates me is that on some forums where people are asking how are they supposed to update their systems to be compliant, pfSense basically said "Sorry, but we have affordable options for your business that are AES-ni compliant" I understand for a free open source firewall, they need to start making money, but I really didn't like that approach.
I've been playing with OpenSense, and with what I've tested so far, pfSense is still king. I had Snort, Squid, OpenVPN, and PIA installed though my home network and worked beautifully. OpenSense has some cool features too, but not as well written as pfSense.
I feel this approach is likely after the software has changed hands, as it recently did as the copyright changed too didn't it? That solution is more likely to bring them a lot more hate than anything, sure it could bring them a bit more income too but there's better ways of going about such things.
But for me right now I'll just keep my old versions of pfSense running into the future, maybe even for the foreseeable future as I don't see a real massive need to upgrade.
How much are you able to push with this? And are you able to handle much connections with Haproxy also?
I don't use Haproxy so I can't answer that.
I have two WAN two LAN at the moment setup on it, I'm running 2x 80Mb down 20Mb up VDSL2+ based Fibre connections, so that's a total of 160Mb down and 40Mb up combined and I can pull that through the firewall to either lan all-day-every-day without it even breaking a sweat! CPU use when pulling 155Mbps~ through the firewall over a multi-WAN gateway sits at just 25-30%.
Hope this has been some help! --Nathan
How is power supply fan level noise
Wy do you want the Temperature to go down this far ?
The cooler that hardware runs the better for its lifespan and it also prevents the server/firewall unit becoming a rack / room heater and overheating through the summer periods.
Your not suppose to work on the hardware while the machine is on. Doing so might fry components
Hi there. That would really depend on the competence level of the individual really and if they know what they're doing and touching within the system. For example in datacentres and on professional servers many things are very much hot-plug and designed to be changed without causing any unnecessary system downtime.
I'm very confident and know what I'm doing. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone go touching motherboard components unnecessarily while a system is running haha.
Thanks for your concern though. :)
--Nathan
@@NathanPH Yes but accidents do happen. Like twitch of your finger bumped something causing a short. Or dropped a screw accidently onto the motherboard. It happens then your users be mad for extended downtime vs a few mins of planned downtime.