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Hello Hello From Victoria Canada!!! That is one hell of a solid ride from what you demonstrated. I was wondering if there is a USB port on the display or controller box that you could see if there is any way of changing the max speed in the software? I'm new to the channel and I am looking forward to checking out the other episodes. Stay safe, healthy and as happy as you possibly can be. 🤘😁👍
I was thinking about the hulk by goat haven't found any reviews on it.can you help me decide on what to do or get. I love power suspension I'm currently in Florida and of course I love to have things modified looking to spend around thirty hundred est. Luv the channel please keep up with the great reviews.
We appreciate the review and feedback. We are listening to customer feedback and will be making the necessary modifications redesigning the front fender and improving the kickstand for the next product run.
Nice bike -- great power, torque and suspension. I just bought a FENGQS 26" fat tire bike w/ twin 1000W motors (each wheel), 24ah battery w/ 58V. With both motors on, it's a full fledged beast and launches you to 35mph in under 12-secs. I've ridden up to 60-miles on a charge and just love it. Unlike the GhostCat though, my suspension is rough so I don't have the travel yours has. However, I bought this for $1300.
Got the bike over the weekend!! Kevin the owner was fantastic with his customer care. Very happy with the performance of the bike and I’m looking forward to some nice rides as the weather gets better on the east coast. This beast has some great torque and is very fast!!
This does seem like random parts from Alibaba. Try the anioki A8 pro max dual motor 3500 Watts. I just got one and it's like a motorcycle. They have truly done something different here. The entire design is unique. Biggest rotors and best brakes in the industry. Motorcycle thickness tires, with all terrain unique tread. Air suspension that is like riding on a cloud. The most travel I've seen on a E bike. Got to 47 mi an hour. Some parts and accessories are matching red anodized aluminum. Large memory foam seat. Alarm system and it comes with two electronic key fobs. The bike is massive. You got to see it in real life to appreciate it. 60 AH battery. This thing is a tank and I'm just glad I made the right choice because I researched for months. Riding it to work everyday 50 mi round trip no problem. Passing cars. So many cheap bikes online. This thing has a 300 mm rotor in the front and looks like a brembo car brake😂 Mike WTF. I stopped at full speed within seconds. Instead of going over the handlebars from the front brakes the air suspension hit in the front tire squawked and laid rubber. All while being stable. I'll shut up now I just can't believe I found AND bought the most quality you like on the market.
Any e-bike builder that designs a bike without room for a second battery isn't paying attention to the market. This bike would have been epic 3 or 4 years ago. Power is old news, range is the new hotness.
Thank you man, I really appreciate the review. I agree on the things that can be improve and also with the things a like: speed, torque, brakes and suspension for a great price. I live outside the US, so my bike will arrive at the end of april, so this video keeps me excited while I'm waiting. Again, thanks for the review!
Once you get to know the major component manufacturers differences between them, the pricing of these bikes makes more sense. Its also best to accept the fact that you'll slowly need to upgrade many of the smaller components to better ones because they are not made to last. That battery also seems suspicious, the physical size does not match the capacity, so they may chosen a bigger enclosure for aesthetics rather than any other reason. Also the cells are probably not from the big three, but hopefully A grade domestics.
So, thank you for reviewing this bike. I've been looking for a bike for quite some time now. And you've helped me make a decision. The only thing left is to wait for a really deep discount and i'm in........
Thats awesome man, cool intro and very high quality production over all. Appreciate all the nice looking angles of the bike. Ive already got one on the way. There's a Swedish expression " he who waits for something good never waits too long" all though I like to flip that, cause waiting for this "ex girlfriend forgetter" has felt like an eternity. Hope you did not scrape the knee to bad 🤗 Be careful out dare!
If you plan on keeping it, can't you get the 6" riser they offer if you want the bars higher? This is pretty much what I wanted out of my next bike. Torque, suspension, higher top speed, better brakes
Firstly Thank you, I really liked your review , many reviewers annoy me for a list of reasons ( like I’m old )but you give a thorough well thought out review which I can’t provide any constructive criticism, heck you even included a crash test , pretty sure that’s the first I’ve seen ( smiley face emoji here ) I hope your knee healed well and with awesome torque ! I have an aventon aventure 2 and overall I could have done a Lot worse / I live in east Hollywood ( CA) and I feel like The Ghost Catters read my mind , ( they probably just listened to their fellow riders , have a few miles on their wheels and made good use of their helmet holders . Bravo to you and them , it’s on my wish list (Bravo neighbors @Ghostcat
Does the hub motor in the rear prevent spoke crossing? I don't think the rear wheel should have radial spokes, but probably at least 2-cross, like the front. Radial spokes don't transmit torque from either a motor or disk brake, and will stretch and loosen the spoke tension over time.
So kickstand issue aside, the front forks could use another $100 of upgrade. And I would pay another $100 for a 25 ah battery. Say $50 worth of front and rear flexible blinkers. May as well remove the fender. Overall good stuff. Great job on the review!
The rear wheel should be laced with the spokes crossing, the spokes are way too small dia to be laced this way , the brakes may be better than some but I feel most all ebikes use brake calipers and disc, pads that are way too small , they should use moped/ motorcycle brakes , I like the long shock travel and the large seat . Nice bike use larger spokes and lace for more strength if you have the space if you don't use the largest dia that fits the motor
If you had to choose between GhostCat F2.2 and Billy Goat V2 what would you choose? I'm leaning more towards GC but BG might have a slight edge on performance and top speed.
@maximumchargeEV this was the bike I had my eye on before I found out about GPB. That was before the upgrade when it was just the regular ghostcat. I like the frame of this bike, the colorway, the style overall is really well thought out imo. It looks like a crotch rocket. It's cool. Now since they have made it faster it's really nice. I had originally ordered the Billy Goat because it was kiiinda the same frame then I switched to the Motor Goat. This will most likely be the next bike I get unless something better comes along.
@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67 this would pair nicely with the goat since that's more for the street and this does very well off road being more nimble and maneuverable
Awesome job! I see I’m not the only one that everything likes to go wrong during reviews lol. Glad you didn’t get hurt. Surface of he moon describes most of the roads around here 😂
Side comment. We are totally headed towards having toys and little mechanical objects that are going to have personalities, we're going to mourn them when they go, they're going to have memories of our entire lives, they're gonna be with us more than a pet or a family member. That little drone is just the first little iteration or reminder of things to come.
Yes, performance is important but be careful making assumptions. Those cheesy b/w displays don’t keep the cost down all that much. A nice color display is more than eye candy and a two grand bike should have one.
Questions: in your review you mentioned that the MAX SPEED was LOCKED IN @ 20MPH, then showed the ADVERTISED SPEED @35+ MPH, so which is it, and if it IS only 20mph, would we be able to unlock it's FULL POTENTIAL of 35+MPH? Also, how RIDER FRIENDLY would that be? What is the MAX rider weight recommended for IDEAL MAX PERFORMANCE? Will there be any options for a LARGER motor & electrical system for a top speed increase of 10+MPH? Looking forward hear your findings. Thank you for your time.😁🤙🏽
bikes usually ship at a locked lower speed, and if the consumer wants to unlock it at their own risk, you are able to do so. Ideal max performance? Get yourself to 10% body fat so the bike doesn't have to work as hard. Not sure if they will be upgrading this model but they did upgrade the xt600dl to 52v so that should go faster.
Excellent presentation, as usual. From my "ain't that just typical" files, was ready to order, but they are back . . . as in back-ordered. Site projects May for the "next batch."
@@maximumchargeEV I have had terrible experiences the three times I have paid for back-orders. So I'll have to pass, especially since I have the patience of a race horse that has to piss.
similar acceleration and torque, some test show it to be a faster accelerator. Better suspension, overall lighter weight, much better for off-roading. it's like a baby surron.
specs look good but not a fan of the smaller tire diameter moped design base , diggin my meelod dm xt 600… puttin some riser bars on the meelod with 12 degree swept back because my wrists were aching bad.
@@maximumchargeEV great vids … after buying the dual motor , never going back to the singles, the hill climbing of the meelod is so much better than my other e bikes… meelod is preordering on the 52 volt version of the xt 600 dual 1000 watts motors not sure what the dl stands for.
Surely you saw tailhappytv's review of the E-Cells 5-star bike by now? I opened up TH-cam last night and immediately did a double take! He gave it a pretty fair review I thought, but I kind of thought he did them dirty when he wrecked the thing while attempting to put the chain back on (for the second time). To see someone wreck such an expensive bike and act as if it's no big deal, is quite an eye-opener for people who are watching the review because they're actually in the market to purchase one. At least for people like me anyway. People who watch numerous reviews and do research for quite a while before forking over their money for a bike. I mean hell, if I had money to throw around like he did that bike, I can think of three or four different bikes that I would have bought this last year, but instead, I watched hundreds of videos like that one, and all of yours of course, because I'm trying to choose just one out of the handful of bikes on the market, that after doing tons of research, I eventually end up deeming the most worthy of spending my hard-earned money on. I'm willing to bet, that even those who make three or four times the amount of money that I make per year, are doing it the exact same way that I am/did.
@@shot_beyond I ended up hearing about in Onyx cty2 about an hour from me that only had a half a mile on it. That's the bike I ended up purchasing, and I paid about $2,000 for it. They were $3,700 brand new, but The company has since gone out of business. Now I realize that 40 + mph on an e-bike wasn't necessarily all that important. I've had my Onyx cty2 up to 54 mph, which is just crazy! It is nice sometimes though, in terms of staying safe on the road, because sometimes you have to be able to quickly get out of people's way. If I had $2,000 to spend today, and the CTY2 wasn't available to me, I'd likely choose a goat power bike, only because the seat size is important to me, because my daughter often goes along on rides with me. If I didn't need room for a passenger, I'd probably go for the E-cells five star.
@@jcolt84 Thanks for replying. I'm considering Urtopia Carbon Fibre Frame e-bike, the earlier one with the belt drive, it's on ebay for offers or buy now for £1250
I'm likin the numbers a bit, yet I'd probably like a higher voltage battery for more range. By the way, in good weather I don't see much need for a front fender.
8:34 The suspension shouldn't sag that much when you sit down, and it's bottoming out at 8:57 because you don't have it properly adjusted for your weight. It's user error, not a design flaw. 39:40 You specifically mentioned the optional 4" handlebar riser option at 12:15, so I'm not sure why you're complaining about the riding position/handlebar height knowing that they offer a fix. 41:03 Durability is excellent... 27:57 if you don't mind replacing a brake lever anytime you fall from a near standstill. 🤣
Do these companies just go to Alibaba, pick out parts and have them drop shipped to us? I feel like thats what i should have done instead of ordering a bike.
Lots of people have done just that. These companies are basically dropshippers. You're paying for the warranty, customer support, and convenience, as it comes 80% assembled and with UL cert, vin etc.
@@j_crust4582 thanks. Kinda makes me feel better. Goat has been pretty good. Not really any communication unless we message them but otherwise ok. I haven't gotten the bike yet. I just noticed this frame is exactly the same frame as the Billy goat.
On motorcycles you use both brakes evenly so you don’t grab all front brake and do as you did. You NEVER want to use just the front.. back is more important and forgiving. It’s not a 🚘 where front is most important.
Saludos de México, esa bicicleta la tiene también la compañía AKEZ, 48v 1500w batería 20amps... Yo la tengo y en México llama mucho la atención porque es un cuadro que no se ve mucho acá, muy diferente a las otras bicicletas chinas que se venden acá. La bicicleta es bastante cómoda y liviana para mi, me suscribo a tu canal amigo. Saludos.
En un video anterior el habla sobre la comparación de esta bici y la AKEZ. Estaría bueno que te lo checaras, hay diferencias entre el motor y su velocidad máxima.
Estos son dos autos completamente diferentes del Jaguar de AKEZ, con al menos 10 o más actualizaciones de configuración, incluidos motores, baterías y controladores.
You said be honest. I don’t know what to expect in e-bikes but, good suspension? The front wheels and guard scrub at full travel? How does such a prototype become a production item? I don’t think it would go where my mountain bike can but in my climate it would get much better range and speed specs. Thanks gif the video.
@@maximumchargeEV We also offer new aftermarket Tapia seat that raises the riding position by 2 inches to 35 inches from the ground versus 33 inches for the stock seat.
@@maximumchargeEV try to do more off-roading but I have steep hills in my neighborhood that are crazy big and some off road trails I might ride, might get the talaria xxx but if I get pulled over I’m screwed because I’m about to turn 16 and I’m broke
I've thought about it and I don't think I will be doing that test. Takes too much time and its not safe. Best I can do is a dark room with the Headlight on. Maybe someone else will ride this at night and test it.
@@maximumchargeEV Yup I searched description first but not found it. There are two songs but none of these is that first one. By first I mean from the first seconds of clip
So on the hill test you do a sideways run up now🤷♂️ in the past it was hit the trottle from the base.. those numbers are skewed in favor of all the bikes with the flat run-up.
OMG! nice review on this bike. Once they said, only a bike is rated as good when it can easily take a steep hill [32:44] without a momentum but for this one ...FAIL! Too bad actually. I had expected a lil more. The suspension is A+ tier but all other specs/parts are not really convincing to me. Pretty common.
Thanks! doing that hill throttle only is insane. I'll have to try my 5000+ watt dual motor bike since that could power up, or something torqued down low like a mid drive would crawl up that.
lol yes true. Downhill speeds aren't the most useful thing in the world. It's good to see how close you can get to the max rpm of the motor under no load. But yes technically terminal velocity is the downhill speed of all ebikes.
Good deal on that with the brakes and suspension for this price. It would probably start out faster but I believe the Kepler takes it after 30 seconds in a drag race. 😁👍
I can buy this bike for 1,500 in the UK which is a deal I can’t refuse. It’s abuse the same price I payed for my 750w bike. But I also have a talaria but that’s not as cheap as this. This I will put in my basket and will buy at some point. Being shipping from America……I’m going to guess it will take a few weeks to arrive.
If that motor is 200wat it can't be I've got the loopo 750wat which I up grade to 1500wat 52v battery controller 45amp top speed 39mph and its a heavy fat tyre bike when you peddle that bike your knees come up to far its the same on all thease bikes. When I see a higher range motor and it doesn't look a diiner plate forget about it because the torque isn't what it should be you get torque from magnets in a motor looking at your motor it looks like a 750wat
@@maximumchargeEV hi OK you no I was reading Google news a guy in Scotland was on a slip road to go on motorway police got him he had no licence or helmet and number plate his bike was took he got small find. I'm taking a chance when I go on mine I'm 76yrs old I go to chemist every Tuesday to get my medication. Sometimes on a nice day I go about 4miles at top speed at times I never think of police. My bike looks like a mountain bike til you see back wheel it's like a dinner plate with a cooling fan around motor so it makes it look bigger. I say to he with it at my age I've got where I can make it road legal at switch I've got display sw900 with three button switche that acts as a clutch so like on 2 I'm doing 14mph can the law pick me up and I peddle at that speed that's if I see the police apologise for long messages
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Man I love that bike I will share this one I never saw one that nice for that price
I definitely think I should buy this and add it to my bike collection.
Did you do anything to make it go 35mph or is that how it comes factory?
@X-GamerPro-HD yeah you just unlock it in the display
Hello Hello From Victoria Canada!!! That is one hell of a solid ride from what you demonstrated. I was wondering if there is a USB port on the display or controller box that you could see if there is any way of changing the max speed in the software? I'm new to the channel and I am looking forward to checking out the other episodes. Stay safe, healthy and as happy as you possibly can be.
🤘😁👍
I was thinking about the hulk by goat haven't found any reviews on it.can you help me decide on what to do or get. I love power suspension I'm currently in Florida and of course I love to have things modified looking to spend around thirty hundred est. Luv the channel please keep up with the great reviews.
We appreciate the review and feedback.
We are listening to customer feedback and will be making the necessary modifications redesigning the front fender and improving the kickstand for the next product run.
Outstanding! Your reply demonstrates you care and you are a great company!
Thank you for being active in the comments section!
I would be interested if that battery was bigger since my general commute is 40mile round trip and Walkkie offers more range.
Love seeing that a company engages and listens to customers. I'm seriously thinking about making the the jump to this company.
Please add more range
Nice bike -- great power, torque and suspension. I just bought a FENGQS 26" fat tire bike w/ twin 1000W motors (each wheel), 24ah battery w/ 58V.
With both motors on, it's a full fledged beast and launches you to 35mph in under 12-secs. I've ridden up to 60-miles on a charge and just love it.
Unlike the GhostCat though, my suspension is rough so I don't have the travel yours has. However, I bought this for $1300.
Sounds like fun!
Got the bike over the weekend!! Kevin the owner was fantastic with his customer care. Very happy with the performance of the bike and I’m looking forward to some nice rides as the weather gets better on the east coast. This beast has some great torque and is very fast!!
Hell yeah!
I think you just sold me a bike man, nice video by the way
Thanks! It's a great bike, so much fun to ride it around. Enjoy!
This does seem like random parts from Alibaba. Try the anioki A8 pro max dual motor 3500 Watts. I just got one and it's like a motorcycle. They have truly done something different here. The entire design is unique. Biggest rotors and best brakes in the industry. Motorcycle thickness tires, with all terrain unique tread. Air suspension that is like riding on a cloud. The most travel I've seen on a E bike. Got to 47 mi an hour. Some parts and accessories are matching red anodized aluminum. Large memory foam seat. Alarm system and it comes with two electronic key fobs. The bike is massive. You got to see it in real life to appreciate it. 60 AH battery. This thing is a tank and I'm just glad I made the right choice because I researched for months. Riding it to work everyday 50 mi round trip no problem. Passing cars. So many cheap bikes online. This thing has a 300 mm rotor in the front and looks like a brembo car brake😂 Mike WTF. I stopped at full speed within seconds. Instead of going over the handlebars from the front brakes the air suspension hit in the front tire squawked and laid rubber. All while being stable. I'll shut up now I just can't believe I found AND bought the most quality you like on the market.
Sounds like a fun bike! I have yet to try that model. This bike however is built for a different type of riding.
*Aniioki
Any e-bike builder that designs a bike without room for a second battery isn't paying attention to the market. This bike would have been epic 3 or 4 years ago. Power is old news, range is the new hotness.
I dont see a problem mounting two batteries side by side..
I like the speed and power.. what bike would you recommend instead?
Strongly agree. I mean any kind of range or power upgradability in affordable ebike is crucial in product longevity
Thank you man, I really appreciate the review. I agree on the things that can be improve and also with the things a like: speed, torque, brakes and suspension for a great price. I live outside the US, so my bike will arrive at the end of april, so this video keeps me excited while I'm waiting.
Again, thanks for the review!
Awesome! Thanks for the kind words! Appreciate your comment and viewership. Which country do you live in?
@@maximumchargeEV I appreciate the patience with me and asking everyday about this review 😅 Regards from Panama 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦😎⚡👍✅
Once you get to know the major component manufacturers differences between them, the pricing of these bikes makes more sense. Its also best to accept the fact that you'll slowly need to upgrade many of the smaller components to better ones because they are not made to last. That battery also seems suspicious, the physical size does not match the capacity, so they may chosen a bigger enclosure for aesthetics rather than any other reason. Also the cells are probably not from the big three, but hopefully A grade domestics.
So, thank you for reviewing this bike. I've been looking for a bike for quite some time now. And you've helped me make a decision. The only thing left is to wait for a really deep discount and i'm in........
welcome!
Wow, I love what I'm seeing here, especially that torque! Love the price too!
Price is very good for the power and specs!
Thats awesome man, cool intro and very high quality production over all. Appreciate all the nice looking angles of the bike.
Ive already got one on the way.
There's a Swedish expression " he who waits for something good never waits too long" all though I like to flip that, cause waiting for this "ex girlfriend forgetter" has felt like an eternity.
Hope you did not scrape the knee to bad 🤗
Be careful out dare!
thank you! Who knows, with this bike, you might find a new girlfriend to sit on the back with you!
If you plan on keeping it, can't you get the 6" riser they offer if you want the bars higher? This is pretty much what I wanted out of my next bike. Torque, suspension, higher top speed, better brakes
Oh yes I'm going to be making more videos on this bike for sure
4 in. Riser
Firstly Thank you, I really liked your review , many reviewers annoy me for a list of reasons ( like I’m old )but you give a thorough well thought out review which I can’t provide any constructive criticism, heck you even included a crash test , pretty sure that’s the first I’ve seen ( smiley face emoji here ) I hope your knee healed well and with awesome torque ! I have an aventon aventure 2 and overall I could have done a Lot worse / I live in east Hollywood ( CA) and I feel like The Ghost Catters read my mind , ( they probably just listened to their fellow riders , have a few miles on their wheels and made good use of their helmet holders . Bravo to you and them , it’s on my wish list (Bravo neighbors @Ghostcat
thank! appreciate the kind words. The F3 review will be out this week! Upgraded version of this. No crashing this time :)
I ordered a razor mx650 and converted it to 72v 2000w. Years ago💁🏾 as shown In my profile pic. That’s one of my go karts builds.
epic
Does the hub motor in the rear prevent spoke crossing? I don't think the rear wheel should have radial spokes, but probably at least 2-cross, like the front. Radial spokes don't transmit torque from either a motor or disk brake, and will stretch and loosen the spoke tension over time.
Wow this bike looks incredible. I have to try one!!
It's fun as hell!
So kickstand issue aside, the front forks could use another $100 of upgrade. And I would pay another $100 for a 25 ah battery. Say $50 worth of front and rear flexible blinkers. May as well remove the fender. Overall good stuff. Great job on the review!
great points! If the controller was moved under the seat there would be a lot of space for a larger battery for sure. Thank you!
The rear wheel should be laced with the spokes crossing, the spokes are way too small dia to be laced this way , the brakes may be better than some but I feel most all ebikes use brake calipers and disc, pads that are way too small , they should use moped/ motorcycle brakes , I like the long shock travel and the large seat . Nice bike use larger spokes and lace for more strength if you have the space if you don't use the largest dia that fits the motor
Very thorough speed test. Good suspension.
Thanks!!! And absolutely!
If you had to choose between GhostCat F2.2 and Billy Goat V2 what would you choose? I'm leaning more towards GC but BG might have a slight edge on performance and top speed.
If I'll be doing off roading, ghost cat all the way
@@maximumchargeEVthanks for the reply man! Much appreciated!!!
Range is important since my general commute is 40 miles round trip. I got to say, it looks like a nice bike.
Well at 20 amp hours if range is important ur gonna wanna keep looking. This thing is realisticly gonna get u like maybe 20 miles tops at 20ah
I’m buying this bike right flipping now!!!!
Epic
This was my next choice after one of the Goat Bikes.. the street bike style frame is clean.
What did you like about this bike over the goat?
@maximumchargeEV this was the bike I had my eye on before I found out about GPB. That was before the upgrade when it was just the regular ghostcat. I like the frame of this bike, the colorway, the style overall is really well thought out imo. It looks like a crotch rocket. It's cool. Now since they have made it faster it's really nice. I had originally ordered the Billy Goat because it was kiiinda the same frame then I switched to the Motor Goat. This will most likely be the next bike I get unless something better comes along.
@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67 this would pair nicely with the goat since that's more for the street and this does very well off road being more nimble and maneuverable
Woah! Seems like great bang for your buck!
I think so!
Amazing bike, great review👍
Thanks!
Awesome job! I see I’m not the only one that everything likes to go wrong during reviews lol. Glad you didn’t get hurt. Surface of he moon describes most of the roads around here 😂
Thanks! Made for some good entertainment 😂
@@maximumchargeEV It sure did lol!
Alex hates his Town...he hates his sidewalks....
@IMBruceECLECTIC hey at least they serve as a good off road testing ground for these videos!
@@maximumchargeEV...truth 😂😅
Side comment. We are totally headed towards having toys and little mechanical objects that are going to have personalities, we're going to mourn them when they go, they're going to have memories of our entire lives, they're gonna be with us more than a pet or a family member. That little drone is just the first little iteration or reminder of things to come.
Now I just want to give my drone a big hug!
@@maximumchargeEV One day they'll ask for one...lol
Yes, performance is important but be careful making assumptions. Those cheesy b/w displays don’t keep the cost down all that much. A nice color display is more than eye candy and a two grand bike should have one.
Outstanding brakes....
They are nuts!
Questions: in your review you mentioned that the MAX SPEED was LOCKED IN @ 20MPH, then showed the ADVERTISED SPEED @35+ MPH, so which is it, and if it IS only 20mph, would we be able to unlock it's FULL POTENTIAL of 35+MPH? Also, how RIDER FRIENDLY would that be? What is the MAX rider weight recommended for IDEAL MAX PERFORMANCE? Will there be any options for a LARGER motor & electrical system for a top speed increase of 10+MPH? Looking forward hear your findings. Thank you for your time.😁🤙🏽
bikes usually ship at a locked lower speed, and if the consumer wants to unlock it at their own risk, you are able to do so. Ideal max performance? Get yourself to 10% body fat so the bike doesn't have to work as hard. Not sure if they will be upgrading this model but they did upgrade the xt600dl to 52v so that should go faster.
Great review! It looks like a smaller version of the Neutronic ebike Excalibur I'm interested in. Will you be doing a review on the Excalibur as well?
wow that looks interesting. I'll reach out to them and see what they say.
Would you buy this or motor goat v3?
If I did a lot of off roading I would get the ghostcat
Excellent presentation, as usual.
From my "ain't that just typical" files, was ready to order, but they are back . . . as in back-ordered. Site projects May for the "next batch."
Thank you! Will you put your order in so it's ready for May?
@@maximumchargeEV I have had terrible experiences the three times I have paid for back-orders. So I'll have to pass, especially since I have the patience of a race horse that has to piss.
@MortimerEsq ooof sorry to hear that man. What were your bad experiences like?
How’s this compared to goat v3? Which do you like better ? I’m betting goat .
similar acceleration and torque, some test show it to be a faster accelerator. Better suspension, overall lighter weight, much better for off-roading. it's like a baby surron.
You know that you have earned
Holaaa amigo muy bien video....esta chida la F2..u vieras ensablado el F2...cuanto te costo..saludos de MEXICO..gracias
no hablo espanol amigo
Great video work day 1 and day 2 nice...
Magic!
specs look good but not a fan of the smaller tire diameter moped design base , diggin my meelod dm xt 600… puttin some riser bars on the meelod with 12 degree swept back because my wrists were aching bad.
very cool!
@@maximumchargeEV great vids … after buying the dual motor , never going back to the singles, the hill climbing of the meelod is so much better than my other e bikes… meelod is preordering on the 52 volt version of the xt 600 dual 1000 watts motors not sure what the dl stands for.
ill be using your code very soon .. im really excited $$$$
Awesome!
@@maximumchargeEV doooneeeee leets goooo wooohoooo
@@maximumchargeEV just bought an actionglow bike kit for the night rides out here cant wait to hit the streets $$$$
Surely you saw tailhappytv's review of the E-Cells 5-star bike by now? I opened up TH-cam last night and immediately did a double take! He gave it a pretty fair review I thought, but I kind of thought he did them dirty when he wrecked the thing while attempting to put the chain back on (for the second time). To see someone wreck such an expensive bike and act as if it's no big deal, is quite an eye-opener for people who are watching the review because they're actually in the market to purchase one. At least for people like me anyway. People who watch numerous reviews and do research for quite a while before forking over their money for a bike. I mean hell, if I had money to throw around like he did that bike, I can think of three or four different bikes that I would have bought this last year, but instead, I watched hundreds of videos like that one, and all of yours of course, because I'm trying to choose just one out of the handful of bikes on the market, that after doing tons of research, I eventually end up deeming the most worthy of spending my hard-earned money on. I'm willing to bet, that even those who make three or four times the amount of money that I make per year, are doing it the exact same way that I am/did.
May I ask, if you have made your choice, what you chose, and was it the right choice?
@@shot_beyond I ended up hearing about in Onyx cty2 about an hour from me that only had a half a mile on it. That's the bike I ended up purchasing, and I paid about $2,000 for it. They were $3,700 brand new, but The company has since gone out of business. Now I realize that 40 + mph on an e-bike wasn't necessarily all that important. I've had my Onyx cty2 up to 54 mph, which is just crazy! It is nice sometimes though, in terms of staying safe on the road, because sometimes you have to be able to quickly get out of people's way. If I had $2,000 to spend today, and the CTY2 wasn't available to me, I'd likely choose a goat power bike, only because the seat size is important to me, because my daughter often goes along on rides with me. If I didn't need room for a passenger, I'd probably go for the E-cells five star.
@@jcolt84 Thanks for replying. I'm considering Urtopia Carbon Fibre Frame e-bike, the earlier one with the belt drive, it's on ebay for offers or buy now for £1250
Brother are you near the worcester area. I'm from springfield.
I'm in the central CT area.
I'm likin the numbers a bit, yet I'd probably like a higher voltage battery for more range. By the way, in good weather I don't see much need for a front fender.
makes sense. Probably would hit 35mph in warmer weather yes.
Time to stop at the nearest bike shop for a new brake handle
Is there a trick to adjusting hydraulic brakes? Do they need to be bled like car brakes?
sometimes they need to be bled, but that's rare. Adjusting the caliper is pretty easy.
What are some ebikes you'd recommend for commuting 20 miles with some good power looking to spend around 2500-2700
That's a pretty good budget. How fast do you want to go? Join my Facebook group ebike Addicts for further discussion
8:34 The suspension shouldn't sag that much when you sit down, and it's bottoming out at 8:57 because you don't have it properly adjusted for your weight. It's user error, not a design flaw.
39:40 You specifically mentioned the optional 4" handlebar riser option at 12:15, so I'm not sure why you're complaining about the riding position/handlebar height knowing that they offer a fix.
41:03 Durability is excellent... 27:57 if you don't mind replacing a brake lever anytime you fall from a near standstill. 🤣
Do these companies just go to Alibaba, pick out parts and have them drop shipped to us? I feel like thats what i should have done instead of ordering a bike.
Lots of people have done just that. These companies are basically dropshippers. You're paying for the warranty, customer support, and convenience, as it comes 80% assembled and with UL cert, vin etc.
You're correct Jeff, exactly that! However! As jcrust explains, you get things other than parts that are MUCH MUCH HARDER TO GET
@@j_crust4582 thanks. Kinda makes me feel better. Goat has been pretty good. Not really any communication unless we message them but otherwise ok. I haven't gotten the bike yet. I just noticed this frame is exactly the same frame as the Billy goat.
@@j_crust4582not ul certified here
almost all of these parts come from china, along with almost everything else we use on a day to day basis haha
Is the f3x 1500 pro going to be discontinued?
Not that I know of
Excellent from the U.K.🎉
On motorcycles you use both brakes evenly so you don’t grab all front brake and do as you did. You NEVER want to use just the front.. back is more important and forgiving. It’s not a 🚘 where front is most important.
makes sense! The brakes on this bike are very grabby, almost TOO good.
Saludos de México, esa bicicleta la tiene también la compañía AKEZ, 48v 1500w batería 20amps... Yo la tengo y en México llama mucho la atención porque es un cuadro que no se ve mucho acá, muy diferente a las otras bicicletas chinas que se venden acá. La bicicleta es bastante cómoda y liviana para mi, me suscribo a tu canal amigo. Saludos.
En un video anterior el habla sobre la comparación de esta bici y la AKEZ. Estaría bueno que te lo checaras, hay diferencias entre el motor y su velocidad máxima.
Estos son dos autos completamente diferentes del Jaguar de AKEZ, con al menos 10 o más actualizaciones de configuración, incluidos motores, baterías y controladores.
No hablo Español amigo
@@maximumchargeEV 🤣🤣🤣 not bad at all haha.
Looks amazing! I wish it had the front wheel drive hub.
Would be way too heavy.
When and where will I be able to buy a spare battery? And how much will it cost?
please double check with customer support, they will have an accurate answer for you.
I have this bike it's awesome wish the crank was shorter because it's almost impossible to pedal it is so snappy
They are working to make the crank arms shorter. Maybe there's a kit they will release to fix this
@maximumchargeEV that would be awesome I personally am going to buy BMX style handlebars also to raise the height of that also
We are working on a shorter crank arm and will have a kit for existing customers,
Can I get this shipped to UK?
23:04 23:07 Is this company have a Trike available?
No
You said be honest.
I don’t know what to expect in e-bikes but, good suspension? The front wheels and guard scrub at full travel?
How does such a prototype become a production item?
I don’t think it would go where my mountain bike can but in my climate it would get much better range and speed specs.
Thanks gif the video.
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate your viewership
I love seeing the GOAT in first place for everything.....
Range sux tho or I’d be all about it
Guy just did a test at 47 miles with 2 batteries..
Am I right in thinking p14 is the max amp setting? If so shouldn’t it be set to 40?
Nah it's something else. The highest it goes is 25. Customer service would know more.
@@maximumchargeEV if it’s an m5 display then p14 is definitely the controller output value
@Fidgeycent possibly. Highest it went to was 25.
@@maximumchargeEV ahh ok, looks a class bike anyway!
Put the power of the Goat bike on this frame and winner winner!
ghostcat is reading the comments :)
This vs Billy Goat? Which is more enjoyable and which is better for what?
if I'm going off roading and/or want something light weight this is better.
I really need to know for whos 5'5 would this be a good choice to commute to work thats 15 miles away at full speed?
This bike is actually pretty good for shorter riders because when you sit down on it the suspension does compress. 15 miles non stop at 35mph?
@maximumchargeEV pretty much nonstop and 30 to 35 ish
@@RedLupus unsure
@@maximumchargeEV okay then how about max speed how much range do you get
Would you recommend this for rider at 6ft?
Only with the handlebar riser
@@maximumchargeEV We also offer new aftermarket Tapia seat that raises the riding position by 2 inches to 35 inches from the ground versus 33 inches for the stock seat.
Should I get this or the motor goat v3?
depends on how much off roading you're going to be doing.
@@maximumchargeEV try to do more off-roading but I have steep hills in my neighborhood that are crazy big and some off road trails I might ride, might get the talaria xxx but if I get pulled over I’m screwed because I’m about to turn 16 and I’m broke
Hello..
Still HAVEN'T STARTED THE NIGHT FOR LIGHT VISIBILITY TEST
I've thought about it and I don't think I will be doing that test. Takes too much time and its not safe. Best I can do is a dark room with the Headlight on. Maybe someone else will ride this at night and test it.
im 6'2 with 193 pounds would i be able to ride it???
Weight wise you're okay but at your height the bike would feel small. Not sure if you would be okay with that
I just got the bike and assembled it but it doesn’t let me go to the p settings it just says - - - -
Double check with customer service
That is the exact same rear shock that is used on the Surrons, and a few other bikes.
I really like how this bike is built but I don't like the low handlebar. There's an optional 4" bar extension but it is still low.
what is the song from near start?
Should be in the description :)
@@maximumchargeEV Yup I searched description first but not found it. There are two songs but none of these is that first one. By first I mean from the first seconds of clip
Where I can buy this kind ebike. How much?
There's a link at the top of the description.
WANT!
how do u program to het 35mph
Should be in the video
yeah please do I just ordered one I need the rite P Settings
mines an aostirmotor a20 i ride in a heavy down pour of rain without covering mine it survives
I guess this is what I need….
I have an electric bike and a talaria but I could do with one of these with peddles.
Would be the more legal option vs the talaria!
You do know telling people the front brakes what's most important will get them hurt the quickest it'll make you wreck
Most of your braking is done by the front. Explain how that's not true.
@@maximumchargeEV Well, if you need to stop fast, you most likely will go over the handlebar… When I am braking, I use 60% front, 40% rear…
info on the speed/motor controller please... i need one that supports 1500w.. !!
Looks like the goat bike, beat it in all three categories
This bike is better in weight and suspension for sure tho
This is just a different type of bike though.
So on the hill test you do a sideways run up now🤷♂️ in the past it was hit the trottle from the base.. those numbers are skewed in favor of all the bikes with the flat run-up.
I only did it from a dead stop on one bike, all the rest had a running start.
so how fast was PAS on 4 and 5?
I believe pas5 goes all the way up to top speed around 36ish mph. Not sure what pas 4 is because I don't really pedal this bike.
Is this bike waterproof 🤔🤔🤔
water resistant yes, water proof no.
OMG! nice review on this bike. Once they said, only a bike is rated as good when it can easily take a steep hill [32:44] without a momentum but for this one ...FAIL! Too bad actually. I had expected a lil more. The suspension is A+ tier but all other specs/parts are not really convincing to me. Pretty common.
Thanks! doing that hill throttle only is insane. I'll have to try my 5000+ watt dual motor bike since that could power up, or something torqued down low like a mid drive would crawl up that.
What is the approximate 'Real World Range' going about 20mph? Did you test that? I haven't watched the full 44 minutes of video.
probably 35ish miles?
@@maximumchargeEV that;'s really good thank you.
The bike looks so comfy, I would love to try but not sure if to buy it. 30m/h feels kinda slow bike.
It goes pretty fast for a 52v system, but feels like it has the torque of a 60v system.
You can go a lot faster downhill at a 90-degree angle.
lol yes true. Downhill speeds aren't the most useful thing in the world. It's good to see how close you can get to the max rpm of the motor under no load. But yes technically terminal velocity is the downhill speed of all ebikes.
Lol😂😂
I got the Hidose b6 pretty much same bike .
Weaker, slower, worse suspension. The frozen pizza of ebikes compared to new haven pizza.
15:52 It took almost 16 minutes for this guy to shutup and hit the throttle lol.
Thank you for sticking around and watching.
@@maximumchargeEV I stopped at 16:15
He goes both ways
Upgrade fenders & it WOULD be something else!! 😊
We are improving the front fender in the next batch along with shorter crank arms.
Do u need a password to enter the setup? Mine has a password and I don't know the password. It seems to be 4 digits.
Password should be in your shipping email. Hope that helps
Good deal on that with the brakes and suspension for this price. It would probably start out faster but I believe the Kepler takes it after 30 seconds in a drag race. 😁👍
This is faster for sure than the kepler throttle only.
@@maximumchargeEV I don't know. Kepler I have does 36 mph on flat roads. 38 plus PAS
I love it 😮
Thanks!
I can buy this bike for 1,500 in the UK which is a deal I can’t refuse. It’s abuse the same price I payed for my 750w bike. But I also have a talaria but that’s not as cheap as this.
This I will put in my basket and will buy at some point.
Being shipping from America……I’m going to guess it will take a few weeks to arrive.
We ship direct from our factory to the UK delivery time 45 days.
DO THEY MAKE AN ADULT VERSION? SURELY LOOKING AT IT, I AT 194CM WON'T FIT ON IT.
Do they have a Ghostcat "Amateur" with a 500w motor and 13amp 48v system?
sacrilege!
Any idea what battery plate that is? I have the same on my X50. Looking for a better battery. It's some new Hai Long type.@@maximumchargeEV
Ghost or Motor Goat?
If I'm off roading, ghost all day.
If that motor is 200wat it can't be I've got the loopo 750wat which I up grade to 1500wat 52v battery controller 45amp top speed 39mph and its a heavy fat tyre bike when you peddle that bike your knees come up to far its the same on all thease bikes. When I see a higher range motor and it doesn't look a diiner plate forget about it because the torque isn't what it should be you get torque from magnets in a motor looking at your motor it looks like a 750wat
This motor is a higher torque motor with different windings than most other geared hub motors, very special.
@@maximumchargeEV hi OK you no I was reading Google news a guy in Scotland was on a slip road to go on motorway police got him he had no licence or helmet and number plate his bike was took he got small find. I'm taking a chance when I go on mine I'm 76yrs old I go to chemist every Tuesday to get my medication. Sometimes on a nice day I go about 4miles at top speed at times I never think of police. My bike looks like a mountain bike til you see back wheel it's like a dinner plate with a cooling fan around motor so it makes it look bigger. I say to he with it at my age I've got where I can make it road legal at switch I've got display sw900 with three button switche that acts as a clutch so like on 2 I'm doing 14mph can the law pick me up and I peddle at that speed that's if I see the police apologise for long messages
85 lbs....light!!
I recently got $1300 of tickets on my Surron. I am searching for alternative bikes.
Wow! So sorry. Where did that happen and how?
@@maximumchargeEV in BC Canada. Cops in small towns are super bored with nothing to do. I shouldn't have stopped.