I don't have Disney+ so I had to look up the plot and ending. This movie subverted expectations in the best way. Love that and this film will touch a lot of people.
Also, her dad acting kinda like a father figure to one of the boys since that kid didn't have a father figure was absolutely adorable and I will forever see it like a straight friend's parent taking a gay kid in after the gay kid has unaccepting parents or no home to go to. No I will not take criticism
Not only is Giulia a great ally, she is also just so, so sweet when Luca wants to learn more She doesn’t groan at his ignorance She doesn’t look frustrated She’s just sharing excitement And at the time period of this movie, everything she’s teaching him is common knowledge. She knows they’re runaways, she recognizes they dress different, and don’t have a place to stay. She’s probably assuming that they’re poor and she willingly gives Luca a tool to learn more. I just think Giulia was written so well, and I was happy to see a character like that in a family movie.
I'm a lesbian, my two best friends are bi and another good friend is pan, they came out to me before I was able to come to terms with myself about my sexuality, so I was the ally "straight" friend for a couple of years. That way, I related to Giulia in this movie (she being queer or not), just about how she offered her treehouse for them without blinking or how her face changed at the "my parents were gonna send me away"... I've been there, giving support and love even if I didn't understand their struggle completely at the time. Queer allyship is so important, be nice and have compassion and love for people no matter how they identify themselves. Be there for your friends, queer or not, and they'll be there for you.
Similar story with me, I have a couple friends who are members in lgbtq. One bi, one pan, and a couple of lesbian. I am still straight but support them all fully
I’m personally not someone to rewatch movies back to back but I saw Luca again the day after the first time I saw it. Luca is honestly better queer representation than all of the “official gay representation” of Disney and Pixar films combined lol.
I re watched right after I finished it 😅 ... I Enjoyed The representation. I just wish they confirmed the relationship some how , it would validate so many lgbt peoples situations
I remember when people were begging for Elsa to be lesbian so that we could have a representation in a major animated movie, but now that I've seen Luca, I think that this movie's approach is much better I, as a part of the LGBT community, was able to see myself in the main characters of this movies, even though there was no romance involved, and I think this is something truly special for a children's movie to achieve
There should be more innocent homosocial stories! What I liked best about Luca was that it wasn't romantic, and it wasn't platonic either. It was just innocent.
I remember in one of the books, Elsa something along the lines of "I have you (Anna), Kristoff, Sven, Olaf and the people of Arendelle, I don't need to find someone like that (romantic/Boyfriend/Girlfriend)" I don't remember the exact quote, but what I get from it is that Elsa is Ace or Aro
I loved when Luca said to Alberto "but, how will I know you're okay?" And you can see Alberto's chest go down, like he breaths out in (kind of) shock and it broke my heart. You can see him break and lose his strong and joking mask
"I pissed off a lot of homophobic trolls in the process.... LET'S DO IT AGAIN!!" LMAO i hit that like button SO FAST 😂😂 Thank you so much for this video, it really resonated with me, as well as the movie itself :')
A thing I really liked in the movie was between Guilia's dad and Alberto. You can just see the father/son bond happening between them without there being much talking and when in the end when the dad walked up to them both as seamonster, Luca was prepared for the unaccaptance but Alberto had fear and sadness in his eyes. Fear/sadness that he would lose another father/father figure in his life just for being himself. The fact that the dad didn't even give a second to think if he should go look for him, no right when he heard Alberto left he straight away went to get his stuff to find him. I just love the bond between the two and the acceptance Alberto got from a father figure.
Yeah, that was so wholesome it reminded me when my low key homophobic parents when my friend came up as gay, the first thing they asked is how they parents took it and if he is ok, and that reveal really changed their mind, it is really different when they know them as a person first and then came to know than they are queer, because that shatter the notion than sea monsters or queer people are an strange and dangerous other, and are just people
I also love the "I'm about to identify as a fucking problem" look Guilia's dad gives the other monster hunters when they seem like they might still be going after Alberto.
Queer representation is not simply about showing queer relationships. Queer representation is about showing queer experiences. This movie was all about a queer experience and that’s what makes it queer even without having explicitly queer people or queer relationships. Studios can put as many queer side characters in their films as they want, but it is not representation unless they show the experiences of those characters.
I was afraid that Giulia and Luca's relationship was going to become more than friendship. I thought they were going to use Giulia to inject heterosexuality into a film so parents/censors wouldnt be mad. I'm so glad that's not the case and that this movie about young queer kids didn't need romance at all. I love and crave stories about strong queer friendships.
@@Mafiaboii06 I should add that fantasy movies that deal with prejudice/discrimination ALWAYS are inspired by or are very obvious allegories for real life discrimination and history. It's important to know history and social issues so you can pay attention to this kind of messaging. You're going to learn some kind of lesson from a Pixar film--it helps to know where to apply that lesson.
@@cupboardgods I kinda thought this movie was about friends being there for each other no matter how different they are but I really dont see Alberto and Luca as a queer couple at all neither with juliet but hey is probably just me
@@UwUchan444 same. i tried to look out for the gay subtext but didn't really see it. maybe a bit in Alberto's jealousy when Guila and Luca hang out more, but that's typical petty kids stuff as well. If ppl saw it another way then it's acceptable, but i think it's clear this was not the writers intention. there are just things that gay ppl can relate to since this movie is also themed around not hiding who you really are.
I had watched a few reviews of Luca saying that the story was a little weak and that the stakes were a low, but upon watching I can't agree. There were so many levels to this movie and I enjoyed it so much. Honestly, I would say it's one of my favorite Pixar movies in a while. Also on another note, one review noted how it was weird that the parents were dumping water on children to see if they were sea monsters as their actions would not only reveal Luca but also put him in danger. But if you think about the film as queer allegory, there are parents who purposely out their kids as a means of controlling them and keeping them from danger while simulatenously putting them in danger and stripping their choice of choosing when and where to come out. What the parents were doing was in a way similar to what Alberto did near the end. Anyway this movie was great, I still can't stand Disney as a company, but this movie was great.
Beyond the Trailer had a take like that. She said she felt like it was missing a lot of the emotional impact that Pixar movies usually have for her and that not a lot happened. She literally accused it of just copying and pasting the Little Mermaid of all movies... I just don't think it's a coincidence that she also missed 100% of the queer allegory. It's almost like the movie doesn't work without it.
I honestly like it better because of how simple it is on the surface, but it has so much depth and it feels so real i can't help but love it. I had a blast watching it
The movie felt nostalgic to me based on the animation style and how similar it is to La Luna. It is interesting to know that the same animator (s) for La Luna worked on this film. Funny enough the school uniforms Luca and Giulia reminded me of the blue school uniforms from the new adventures of Madeline.
It's sad that some people have a problem with others having a different opinion or think its wrong for someone to find their own way to relate to characters. Hell, as an African American, growing up I had to try and find ways to relate to characters that looked different, moved different within society. Art is meant to be interpreted by the individual observer regardless of the creators intention and different people with different life experiences will have different interpretations.
Wow, I hadn't considered how relevant this film could also be to POC! I'd also like to say as an autistic person, that I strongly related to the allegories in the movie too. Having to hide your true self for fear of not getting accepted or trying to "fit in" with people that are different to you can sadly make sense to a lot of different groups, but at least makes it so this movie has such a beautiful message to give so many different people. Even before I saw videos like this, I also noticed the strong queer allegory too, including the whole "coming out" scene. One of my favourites out of many of the modern movies.
my worst fear was that the movie would try to do some tired, dumb love triangle between Luca, Alberto and Giulia. I was expecting Luca to ''fall'' for Giulia, making Alberto upset, and then having the rest of the movie be ''which one will Luca choose''. But nope, i'm overjoyed that Giulia stayed as just a friend to both of them, and nothing got in the way of Luca and Alberto's affections : )
EXACTLY! Going into this movie with all the queer discourse surrounding it I never expected it to be OUTWARDLY gay, but I DID get the impression from the trailers that they might try to make a romance between Luca and "The Girl" (Julia) and I was really SCARED that's where it was going
Okay, an actual discussion comment this time, haha. On the allies standing for marginalized groups first and foremost part. It really did make me think about how Ally-ship shifts. When I'm at Pride, it's my straight friends and family that make a point to be there for me. At a BLM protest, I make sure I'm the part of the barrier because I know being perceived as a small disabled white woman (I'm trans-masc nonbinary) puts me at an advantage above those I came to be there for. At a protest for teachers, we protect them. It doesn't matter how we perceive ourselves one day because one day we need the ally and some days we are the ally. I dunno, it just gave me a nice feeling to realize at the end of the day, when we really involve ourselves in our community, we really do need one another. I think covid has me sappy. Great video! Edit: If your take away from my comment is to come and argue politics and about whether BLM is wrong or not (the hell???), not only did you entirely miss the point of my comment, I will not engage you.
I like the scenes with Massimo. How he is all tough and grumbling monster hunter in the beginning, but then opens up more and starts caring about them. I especially like the scene where he explains his missing arm, that it wasn't an accident, that he was just born that way. That mindset seems perfect to springboard off of onto being accepting of how others are born.
I loved when Giulias father went to look for Alberto, he was carrying the hat he wore almost the entire movie. In the ending scene, Alberto’s wearing that hat, so the father must have given it to him, showing that he truly accepted him as his son. Idk, i liked that
I liked 'Luca' :) Not as much as 'Inside Out' or 'Finding Nemo', but still quite a bit. Probably because it takes place in Italy, and I'm Italian :) It was lovely to see all the little things that Pixar got right about Italy, from the diverse way the buildings are painted and structured to the pasta to the copper pots in Giulia and Massimo's kitchen. It felt like non-Italians could take a little peek in what a typical Italian town, whether it's by the sea or further inland, is like; and Italians like me can smile with familiarity. The familiarity aside, it is a very beautiful film with plenty of vivid colors, and the artist in me just sits there in awe. I also liked the characters, from Luca's wide-eyed innocence to Giulia's tomboyishness to, yes, Ercole's inflated self-importance (yes, I know he's a bastard, but he's a bastard that I love to laugh at; and not just because his attitude towards his Vespa much reflects how Italian men actually treat their cars and/or motorcycles XD). They felt like real pre-pubescent kids, not what Hollywood THINKS kids are like. I would have loved to have a friendship like that when I was their age. I admit, though, that I have one main problem with 'Luca': the fact that Portorosso accepts the sea monsters so easily. Don't get me wrong, it's heartwarming and all, but it just felt indulgent, too. Luca's parents, however strict and paranoid they were, still strongly believed that the 'land monsters' were deadly and that their boy had to be kept away from the surface in order to stay safe. And they're not the only ones. Aside from the grandmother character, and the two old ladies in the town, that seems to be the general consensus: humans are dangerous, so let's give them a wide berth. And yet, the town accepts Luca and Alberto with little fuss (except for Ercole because he's a bigot). Even Massimo, who is a sea monster hunter, accepts them easily enough. Don't get me wrong, it was well-done in his case because he got to know Luca and Alberto and was thus able to look past their 'monstrous' appearance. But the rest of the town follows suit, just like that? You're telling me that an entire species of intelligent life lived in hiding for who knows how long, when really there was no need? It just feels so sugar-coated. I feel like 'Ratatouille' did it better: we see, very clearly, that humans hate rats. And yet, Remi and Linguini are able to forge a partnership (and, later, friendship) based on mutual benefit. Prejudices and barriers have to be overcome. But in 'Luca', aside from Ercole, no one seems to have any real problems with sea monsters. Now, don't get me wrong. I didn't want to see a witch hunt. I didn't want to see the town break out into 'Savages' or 'Kill the Beast' and grab whatever makeshift weapons they could find. But a bit more of a conflict would have made the happy ending feel more earned. This is simply my opinion, though. If you disagree, then I respect your right to do so. Overall, I give the film a 7/10.
Interesting take! I'd love to play devil's advocate for why the town may have responded like it did! It seems like no one has seen sea monsters for a possible two generations. People tend to get desensitized to things violent from the past after a generation or so (a sad thing) and that means folks can become somewhat aloof. The only real "hunters" in town seemed to be the father (who gives a feel of a kid raised by a fanatic to hunt and just became a fisherman to pay the bills. Maybe his obsession is why he is divorced.) And the villain. Which I'm glad someone enjoyed! It seems like its all tall tales and a way to bring in tourists. Like Bigfoot and Mothman in America. So when finally faced with, not only the prospect of sudden, bloody violence, the realization that these were children, I think the general human response would have been to turn away. At first, the instinct to fight kicked in but the moment that they had an out, everyone took it. I think general human nature isn't physical violence and this reflected well in the film. I also personally really didn't like how unrealistic the response to the bad kid was myself. But that's also my own person opinions and just a thought to throw in. Really liked reading your comment! Hope you only get respectful replies!
@@voidtrotter Thank you for playing the devil's advocate in a respectful way :) I admit that I am something of a cynic and a misanthrope, so maybe that's why the town's rapid acceptance of the sea monsters doesn't sit well with me. But! I recognize that it is merely my opinion, and your explanation does make sense :) Good job!
you nailed exactly what irked me about the director's knee-jerk response.. pixar: "the story is a metaphor for feeling 'different’" media: "gee, seems like an allegory that an LGBTQ+ audience (both adults and children) should really be able to relate to” casarosa: "no. get your minds out of the gutter, these characters are just innocent kids" i didn't see a single interviewer ask/imply any "romance", but he just couldn't wait to jump at the opportunity to get it twisted and demonstrate his ignorance (or else he's deliberately stigmatizing/gaslighting, which is maybe the only possible way to be even more toxic)..
@@flysoup3607 someone clearly didn't read/comprehend the thread, so i'll explain it again for you niiiiiiiice and sloooooow: lgbtq+ identities don't begin and end with sex/romance.
*PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT TRUE, IT IS JUST A THEORY* Now, i have a feeling the creator had lied that this wasn’t a lgbtq movie so all homophobic countries AND Disney wouldn’t find out and get mad. Heres some more details: Disney and pixar a different studios, but part of the same company, Disney decides whether or not to put PIXARS movie towards their audience. I think that the creators if the movie wanted to make a lgbtq but very discreetly, so the whole time during the making if the movie, they had to lie that is was about the directors childhood, rather then a queer written story. Once it was published and people said that they have a concept that the movie is about queer struggles etc. Creators had to say that is wasnt so that disney and homophobic states and countries wouldnt get upset, and disney losing its veiwers, because we all know that disney isnt really about making a movie to comfort other communities like lgbtq, there more money.
I like how there were already two elder women in the town and when they saw Alberto and Luca they came out. Telling older queer people that it's never too late to find out who you are and that made me really happy.
Biromantic Demi here, and I love this film and had some strong feelings about how Giulia's dad bonded with the two, especially Alberto. Not to mention Giulia's whole friendship with them. Definitely read the entire film as a queer allegory, and I nearly cried at the ending.
Honestly, i think it was nice that the boys would cling onto each other and not pull or flinch away like in other movies, it could really show kids that its alright to hug or touch your homies without them feeling like they’re ‘less manly’ in doing so! Though i gotta admit, even if the creators of pixar said the movie isn’t gay, Luca and Alberto still seems adorable together to me 🥺
It’s so bittersweet. They are all happy and going off to places that they want to be but the bond that we see between Luca and Alberto the entire way through really comes to a peak at the end when we see how much they will miss each other 💔💔
yes!!! the story being queer doesn't mean Luca and Alberto have to be a couple. I'm especially peeved when people say we are "sexualizing" children by saying Luca tells an inherently queer story. Being queer is so much more than sexual or romantic relationships.
I would love to (maby) see an animated short , where Luca and Alberto are in their early 20s and they travel the world together on a moped . to confirm their gayness, idk I just wish they gave us some way of confirmation about their gayness. It would make me so happy and would be a nice resolution to Luca and Albertos storyline. (Obviously if they’re trying to do a sequel this won’t happen . But I would just love to see this ! It would cheer me up and make me so happy)
I like what's been coming up more and more that "I don't need allies. I need accomplices." Co-conspirators and saboteurs are the better benchmark than simply being an "ally."
Finding someone who understands you is something so special. Instead of the grander stories where the hero has to save the world, in this the main character has to find people that accept and understand them. I'm struggling with the same thing, so this movie was a lot more relatable and personal.
I think that this movie is more intended to be a story about friendship, but it definitely was queercoded, wether it be intentional or unintentional. It was most likely unintentional. Also the line that the grandmother said was DEFINITELY read to me as an allegory for queerness. The thing that upsets me about how people are reacting is then being like “BRO WHY DIDNT THEY KISS IM SO MAD HBHNGNGVHGGBGBG” like dude- calm down. Calm the heck down. The movie is about friendship. Sure it has a queer allegory, but it’s still about FRIENDSHIP.
@@pompe221 well, not in here southern Europe lol but yes, I'm happy that this is about friendship and how there isn't any romántic interést between the 3 of them. Just kids discovering life and making friends, leaving the fear behind
I also really love the found family trope. Many queer people struggle with having paternal figures due to losing theirs, so seeing a found family trope is great
The first 20 minutes of the movie made me so confident that Luca and Alberto were in love. He literally had a dream sequence of riding through a sunflower field with him. Tell me that's not romantic. And when Giulia showed up I was so upset because I really thought she was going to ruin the queerness. But she didn't. And she and her dad turned out to be allies. And I loved it.
This is so amazing for me, I can relate with her character so much from her name to her personality, and I’m also an ally, I’m proud to help all my friends LGBTQ+ find comfort and support, Giulia is very special to me
9:59 my heart at that moment. Because you see the betrayal on Alberto's face, Luca realizing what he had done (he kept at it) and the fact that Alberto was now in mortal peril. Also, you can actually see that in life. 11:00 I didn't realize that part. Huh.
I saw Luca after I heard some people telling me, it was going to be at least a little gay. And ho boy, was it gay! Honestly, I loved it! It was a fresh of breath air that really stuck with me. Luca and Alberto's scene really stuck with me since I heavily related to Alberto, and the betrayal he feels. Do I think everyone is going to love it as much as I do? God no, I just really like having a movie where I can feel seen..
The resolution felt very true to a lot of the working class and queer family dynamics I've encountered IRL. Giulia and Massimo remind me of the Ride or Die allies who might not "get it" but still care so much that they won't tolerate other people's BS.
The best thing about this movie is that it can be easily be interpreted in many different ways regarding multiple minorities. The story is simplistic, but can be analyzed to create a realistic message.
A lot of us quite accurately felt the allegory about luca during its initial trailer. We're also vindicated in the fact that despite romance not being the intention at all, it's still a story about connections and the shifts they experience when something different is part of the equation. It's valid to say the opinion that we deserve more rep for both male affectionate and non-toxic masculine relationships, but understand that us queer folk are just a human as what society seems normal. We can live in and experience just as much as anything that society as a whole experiences. Any relationship is just as valid, familial, friendship, romance (also romance isn't always strictly about the concept of a pair being a couple) so the relationships shown in the movie doesn't necessarily require this much discourse about how a subjective view is wrong or not.
Indeed. I LOVE close, and intimate friendships in movies. As just a movie watcher and someone on the AroAce spectrum. And I ESPECIALLY love it when it's between two men or boys. As it actively breaks down stereotypes and is something we desperately need. But you can most certainly have that in a movie that is NOT a queer allegory. And it's kinda a shame that the first thing that "fits the bill" for a wonderful male friendship in media in a bit was HEAVILY queercoded. Because since it resonates with me so much, it is so difficult to view it in any other light but a queer one.
I really liked Luca. It gets very close to being the same teir as Inside Out and Coco for me. Not quite there, but still close. There was a lot I expected before watching it and while watching it that didn’t come to pass. It didn’t impact my enjoyment of the movie tho. I knew the town had a sea monster hunting history but it wasn’t as played up as I thought it would be, even with Luca’s mom and her warning him of the danger. No killed family members or friends, no stories of encounters and/or losses from the past, nothing. I thought there would be more to Alberto’s father, and the Bruno phrase. Maybe his father had been killed or separated from him. Maybe his father was named Bruno and was like Luca’s mom, forbidding him from going to the surface. Or Bruno was Alberto’s real name or a nickname and he used to be less adventurous and brave I loved the sea monster designs and their segments in the water, I knew nothing about Giulia and ended up really liking her, Massimo is a big teddy bear!, and Ercole is a _spectacle,_ he was a hilarious antagonist.
Luca is a beautiful slice-of-life story. And after we missed out on any bear-to-human and human-to-bear transformation sequences in Brave, the abundance of transformation sequences in Luca were a godsend!
Boyyy, did I cry my heart out. The queer allegory was so strong, it brought me so many memories of my teenage years, discovering myself, feeling like I connected with other queer kids only to be rejected due to their own internalized queerphobia, fearing my parents' love was truly conditional and such
Luca is definitely one of my new favorite movies ever, this was better queer story-telling and representation than the last 7 "disney's first openly gay character"'s combined. All three of the kids' storyline hit so close to home for me and I was hard-sobbing by the end (good tears!). I really wish this movie was playing in theaters, I would've gone to see it multiple times if I could've!!! I know the creators have said it wasn't intended to be a queer story but I really can't imagine it not being made with that intention, though I guess it could've been accidental, the queer elements are hard to ignore like you said. Happy pride month!
The comment “not everyone will accept him, but some will. And he seems good at finding the good ones” (it’s not word for word but you know lol) made me ball my eyes out because as an lgbtq person it felt like my struggles were seen and understood. People don’t realise how much this movie and any movie that can be relatable for us lgbtq+ people can mean to us and honestly I think that I will treasure this media for a long time. I was so overcome with emotion with every single piece of subtext that I could relate to including what I mentioned before as well as the old lady sea monsters revealing themselves to a town that is prejudice towards that kind. Whatever Disney says about this movie I won’t deny the representation that I felt when watching this and I will be forever thankful for the existence.
This movie made me cry at the end, idk why but it touched my feels. But honestly this movie could be seen in a lot of ways and it definitely made it a favorite for me. I’m not lgbt myself (still support it though) but I still related to this movie. It’s easy become one of my favorites because of the feelings it gives me and many others.
She is just so bloody adorable , supportive and understanding. A little detail that I loved was that she doesn’t have that button more most girls and women have in animation it’s a lil hooked and as someone insecure about my own more I loved seeing this cutie
When I first watched the movie, I didn't notice anything mentioned in the video. I just thought it was a charming movie about friendship; but after listening to your breakdown, I can see all the hidden messages. I love how relatable/enjoyable this movie is to everyone no matter the background.
Great video thank you. I just watch the movie last night. Got really emotional. Cried like four times. It really him home for me. Brining back memories from way back in the day. Loved the movie!! My only complaint is that Luca left. Broke my heart that he would leave Alberto like that. You telling me there is no school there in Portarosa ? I don’t believe it.
Honestly I was REALLY looking forward to your take on Luca since your last essay about the film and you did not dissapoint! And.... ahhh- I ended up crying like 15 minutes after finishing Luca because the grandmother's line had me reflect all the amazing people I've met over the years who support and accept me. I have a few lines from media I have stashed in my made-me-feel-things-cuz-I'm-too-gay-to-handle-this lexicon. This line is going right next to Danny Phantom telling Vlad "my parents will accept me" from the episode Bitter Reunions. I had so much anxiety coming out as bi to my parents that hearing a character that could be applicable to bisexual person confidently say that was super comforting to me.
i absolutely loved this movie when i saw it (twice) and still do with all my heart!!!! my cousin and i, two trans and bi kids, saw it together when we were on a trip and it was just amazing to see how we feel portrayed on screen. my parents are like luca’s and it felt VERY validating to see also the line at the end about acceptance crushed my heart and taped it back together
I really liked this movie, and I related a lot to both boys. Luca because his parents, while meaning well, at first didn't understand him and what he wanted and needed, to a point where he thought they wouldn't even come looking for him- which made me so sad for him. And Alberto's story is very personal to me- his dad left him, and poor Alberto, who clearly loved his dad a lot, kept count for a LONG time before realizing his father wasn't coming back, and internalized being abandoned as "there's something wrong with me, it's MY fault ". His mom isn't mentioned, and I think that was intentional, a reference to those of us who are left behind after revealing our true selves. Alberto spent an unknown period of time alone- months? Years? He did say he stopped making marks, so we really don't know. I certainly had my share of people who cut me off in one way or another when I came out to them, and my dad and I still don't talk much about my queerness. I grew up in a small Mormon town, and was very afraid to come out during my childhood and teen years, to the point where I was 19 when I finally came out to someone, and I'm still stuck with feelings of shame and fear whenever I look into anything queer. So Alberto desperately clinging to the ONE person who cares about him and didn't leave ? I get that. People who accept you are treasures and it's terrifying, especially when you're first coming out, to think your allies or friends or loved ones might leave you. I liked that the movie gave both boys a happy ending, I was worried they might take a hard turn into a negative ending.
When I first watched it I felt the allegory to queerness as comforting and I could tell it was there but I couldn't quite explain how it all played out to my friends when trying to convince them about it. Thank you for this video!
Great analysis of Giulia and Massimo. I loved how their characterizations unfolded. What are your thoughts on Hercole? He was very gay-stereotype coded. The limp wrist and wool sweater bits were the two that really stood out.
Even tho this movie is not about gay relationships, or gay characters, people need to realize the message means that no matter who you are, you should be accepted.
what I just noticed about Guilia's character is that she doesn't live in Portorosso, she lives in a bigger city with her mother who is an artist (as seen in the end credits), she is not part of the close-minded town, and so she's obviously more accepting unlike the people from Portorosso who are an allegory of a homophobic town. This is similar to a person moving from a big city, filled with different people from any race, gender and sexuality, to a small town where either religion or status is important. Guilia being their friend helped other people see them not as monsters, but as people, they were more willing to cast away preconceptions that they initially had of them. And because of this, Luca and Alberto realized that not everyone would hate them for who they are and felt safer.
Like when Ercole said to Luca and Alberto after the big reveal...that the townspeople are disgusted and horrified of them. It's something a homophobe would say.
Adding to the discussion, I also loved the ending in how the two other ladies from the town revealed themselves in solidarity for Luca and Alberto. For me, I had a multitude of friends come out this pride month and as a person still closeted to my family, seeing how many of my friends who I hid myself from and how they had also hid; it reminded me of that feeling of community and understanding. And then the line that the Grandma says at the end perfectly sums it up for me. It perfectly displays this innocence that comes with a childhood understanding
Honeslty i do see the relationship between Luca and Alberto as more then friendship, like just the way Alberto looks at Luca and gets jealouse rly seems like a crush to me, plus it really related to my experiences of my first crush on my best friend when i was kid. But I kind of like that they didn't kiss at the end, idk but it would be a little out of place. Maybe in an imaginary sequel or something i imagine that their relationship would get more romantic, but so far for this movie i think it ended great
This movie really moved me and helped give me some motivation to come out. It’s been a slow process, but I love this movie so much and it means a lot to me ❤️
To answer the first homework question, I absolutely LOVED Luca. I disappointing thing is that everytime I try to explain why I love it so much, I’m at a loss for words. It just has an IT factor to me, like any other confort film does. And I also feel so seen by it as a queer individual.
English isn't my first language so i don't really know how to phrase it in a way that's concise and makes sense at the same times but bear with me pls,, It angers me so much how ignorant or homophobic people will use the "They're just friends, i hate how two boys can't be close without being seen as gay, it's toxic, it's erasing male friendships" argument to justify complete denial of the queer coding in this movie. First of all, most queer people aren't even arguing about wether or not they're a couple. The movie is first and foremost about the experience of being a young queer INDIVIDUAL, in a hostile, heteronormative world where we cannot live freely or even survive without having to hide our sexual identity. And secondly, why would a potentially romantic reading of this relationship tarnish in any way the image of friendships between boys/men? They are completely within their right to interpret them as best friends. But we queer people noticing elements of romance and jaleousy is NOT us forcing this interpretation on everyone else. Why can't the two interpretation co-exist peacefully? Why are the two always mutually exclusive especially when they're both so similar (platonic/romantic? They're KIDS ffs, there's not much difference between the two at that age)?? Why are they so afraid of Luca and Alberto's relationship being seen as queer?? Because the people making this argument feel threatened by queerness and it's implications. A lot of people have this insecurity where they always have to clarify "im not gay, it's not gay" when confronted with same-sex affection. It's got to do w homophobia and toxic masculinity etc. and yes, I agree that we have to get rid of this toxic masculinity stigma so that men can be able to be freely platonically affectionate with each other, but it's not limited to that. If you want to push this argument, you have to get to the end of it and realize that it should also include destigmatizing gay relationships and allowing them a space besides platonic friendships bc homophobia is literally the root of it. So them completely excluding a romantic interpretation while advocating for male friendship is so counterproductive and ignorant of the true issues while also contributing to the alienation of queer people. It's like we exist in our own bubble outside of mainstram media, which cannot possibly be made with us in mind. If It was a boy and a girl, peoole would've been free to interpret it as they like with no debate. Opposite/same sex relationships are literally the same in essence, be it platonic or romantic. Why is it so controversial when it's about two boys then?? It shows how queerness is still too taboo even today, and it's frustrating.
I was already liking the movie and the way the allegory was playing out and then the fight happened. It made so much sense in terms of the allegory and I could recognize the conflict and all the different characters' emotions. Then the bike race and the Father's part, along with the two women unveiling themselves... I just liked it so much!
"I came into the world like this" -One armed Dad. THAT was one of my favorite parts of a nod to Queerness Its very clear. I loved it so much it was very moving
I'm really glad there wasn't elements of romance, because it's not always needed to tell a good story. and using sea monsters in place of the LGBTQIA= community is a good way to tell this story to children and adults that need to hear it, one way or another. I hope that everyone finds people like Giulia and Massimo, who will accept them whole-heartedly for who they are.
Honestly, I love the movie Luca. I know the reception to it has been pretty lukewarm, but I genuinely love it. I love the simplicity of an interpersonal story over a huge, large-scale plot, I ADORE the characters, the animation is beautiful and adorable, and the LGBT allegory is one of the best ones I've ever seen, even if it wasn't intentional. That's not to say I don't have my issues or little gripes with it, but I feel like too many people are focusing on those gripes and issues, and I just want to focus on the positives. I love this movie, I love the characters to pieces, and this movie is 100% gay, and anyone who says it isn't can bite me.
This was a take on the movie that I never thought about, but it makes me appreciate the movie all the more. I don't like when character sexuality is thrown into a kids movie unnecessarily where it doesn't have a reason to be in the film in the first place and does nothing for the plot (To me, representation is extremely important, but it needs to fit in a story and not just be thrown in a movie as a false and shallow attempt at originality by the entertainment industry... to me representation deserves more substance than what is often cranked out, and if there was more effort to do this we would have a lot less complaining from people and it would support different voices more fairly), but this movie is a great way to have a discussion that shines forth the humanity that we all share regardless of sexuality, gender, race, etc regardless of the age of the child or background of a family. This movie gets it right and teaches tolerance and compassion and I am for it. It is also my toddler's favorite movie right now. It will also be a good movie to discuss with my son when he is older because he was born infertile and will need hormone shots to assist with puberty and I want him to celebrate and embrace differences not only in others but in himself as well. I think it is safe to say that we all find that family doesn't end with blood, but we have to be open-minded and open-hearted to let the people who enrich us in to our lives in the first place. Life is already a struggle without us making it harder to connect to others with limited beliefs narrowing our capacity to grow. That is why this movie is so awesome as a whole. It shows healthy ways to do that in any capacity in any situation. Thank you for making this video and showing me another way to look at this movie.
I loved Luca- I honestly have no particular reason for loving it it's just that good to me! It has so much focus on childhood experience that is really nostalgic in a way. I could feel the LGBTQ+ influence and it was done so casually- I really loved the way everything was handled and presented and I look forward to seeing more in the media
this movie is so good, it made me cry a few times because there were moments that touched me. this is probably the first movie to ever make me cry almost about 3 times.
Honestly the movie Luca hit me hard at home. Because personally, when i was younger i had a friend/boyfriend who was trans, and after we've talked through message he told me he was trans. As someone who hasn't heard of LGBTQ when i was younger or never learned from it, obviously i was oblivious to what he meant by who he truly was. But now that i remembered over what happened, i felt suddenly touched. I remember telling him, " I'm not going to leave you, i know you and love you for who you are because you are still that same person i fallen for in day one. " Seeing Luca having that similar act from what my friend/boyfriend by coming out to me. I can understand better how queer folks have a hard time showing who they truly are but are scared at the same time. Now, i don't mainly find it a big deal they're a changed person or how they look like, but they are human and are scared of showing who they are. We should help them in any way possible to know They're okay and that there's good people.
Not only is The Deep dangerous, but it also NEVER WORKS! And nor should it, because THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU ❤
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My God, thank you!!!!!
I don't have Disney+ so I had to look up the plot and ending. This movie subverted expectations in the best way. Love that and this film will touch a lot of people.
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Also, her dad acting kinda like a father figure to one of the boys since that kid didn't have a father figure was absolutely adorable and I will forever see it like a straight friend's parent taking a gay kid in after the gay kid has unaccepting parents or no home to go to. No I will not take criticism
And in the credits they came even more father and son like :'3
Can I just say- I love your comment, yes.
this is adorab-*cries*
@@josefagomezschmeisser8356 when I saw the drawing of him giving Alberto the knife for his birthday I almost teared up-
You are right and I am glad you said it
Not only is Giulia a great ally, she is also just so, so sweet when Luca wants to learn more
She doesn’t groan at his ignorance
She doesn’t look frustrated
She’s just sharing excitement
And at the time period of this movie, everything she’s teaching him is common knowledge. She knows they’re runaways, she recognizes they dress different, and don’t have a place to stay. She’s probably assuming that they’re poor and she willingly gives Luca a tool to learn more. I just think Giulia was written so well, and I was happy to see a character like that in a family movie.
I'm a lesbian, my two best friends are bi and another good friend is pan, they came out to me before I was able to come to terms with myself about my sexuality, so I was the ally "straight" friend for a couple of years. That way, I related to Giulia in this movie (she being queer or not), just about how she offered her treehouse for them without blinking or how her face changed at the "my parents were gonna send me away"... I've been there, giving support and love even if I didn't understand their struggle completely at the time. Queer allyship is so important, be nice and have compassion and love for people no matter how they identify themselves. Be there for your friends, queer or not, and they'll be there for you.
I’m lesbian too!
@@mars_starz420 hey friend, happy pride 💞
@@moonieverso happy pride! :)
Similar story with me, I have a couple friends who are members in lgbtq. One bi, one pan, and a couple of lesbian. I am still straight but support them all fully
@@tenkiingkirby6041 Arthur is Alberto's dad and Aurora is Alberto's mom
I’m personally not someone to rewatch movies back to back but I saw Luca again the day after the first time I saw it. Luca is honestly better queer representation than all of the “official gay representation” of Disney and Pixar films combined lol.
I also did this and I completely agree
yes!!! same here
I re watched right after I finished it 😅 ... I Enjoyed The representation. I just wish they confirmed the relationship some how , it would validate so many lgbt peoples situations
Exactly!
Me too!
I remember when people were begging for Elsa to be lesbian so that we could have a representation in a major animated movie, but now that I've seen Luca, I think that this movie's approach is much better
I, as a part of the LGBT community, was able to see myself in the main characters of this movies, even though there was no romance involved, and I think this is something truly special for a children's movie to achieve
There should be more innocent homosocial stories! What I liked best about Luca was that it wasn't romantic, and it wasn't platonic either. It was just innocent.
@@LittleGreenSoldier Arthur + Aurora = Alberto
I remember in one of the books, Elsa something along the lines of "I have you (Anna), Kristoff, Sven, Olaf and the people of Arendelle, I don't need to find someone like that (romantic/Boyfriend/Girlfriend)" I don't remember the exact quote, but what I get from it is that Elsa is Ace or Aro
@@annepixiebettinger3593 YES aro and ace people need so much representation!!!
@@HackiePuffs ARTHUR IS THE DAD AND AURORA THE MOM
When Luca said "they were gonna send me away."
You can see Guilia's heart break. It honestly felt the most human reaction a animated movie can be.
I loved when Luca said to Alberto "but, how will I know you're okay?" And you can see Alberto's chest go down, like he breaths out in (kind of) shock and it broke my heart. You can see him break and lose his strong and joking mask
"I pissed off a lot of homophobic trolls in the process....
LET'S DO IT AGAIN!!"
LMAO i hit that like button SO FAST 😂😂 Thank you so much for this video, it really resonated with me, as well as the movie itself :')
Same
Same! Ugh best Video!
@@cosmicfive7860 Aurora and Arthur are Alberto's parents
@@FiveFurys5 Can you stop stalking me pls dang! Stop making things up
@@cosmicfive7860 Stop
A thing I really liked in the movie was between Guilia's dad and Alberto. You can just see the father/son bond happening between them without there being much talking and when in the end when the dad walked up to them both as seamonster, Luca was prepared for the unaccaptance but Alberto had fear and sadness in his eyes. Fear/sadness that he would lose another father/father figure in his life just for being himself. The fact that the dad didn't even give a second to think if he should go look for him, no right when he heard Alberto left he straight away went to get his stuff to find him. I just love the bond between the two and the acceptance Alberto got from a father figure.
Also Guilia's dad eating the pasta with his hand much like Alberto did previously in the film just warms my heart
Yeah, that was so wholesome it reminded me when my low key homophobic parents when my friend came up as gay, the first thing they asked is how they parents took it and if he is ok, and that reveal really changed their mind, it is really different when they know them as a person first and then came to know than they are queer, because that shatter the notion than sea monsters or queer people are an strange and dangerous other, and are just people
:0 wait they do? I missed that omg TO THE CREDITS!!
Edit: omg they do that's so cute xD
And in the credits we can see than they got father son matching pijamas
I also love the "I'm about to identify as a fucking problem" look Guilia's dad gives the other monster hunters when they seem like they might still be going after Alberto.
ok but this too grandmas who comes out as sea monsters defiantly an old married gay couple and i love it
That was literally my first thought when I saw them
I wish, but they’re canonically sisters
@@clown-jj1lb Thanks for no homo-ing, God
They could be sisters. I have two of them in my block.
@@clown-jj1lb Nice joke 😐, but playing as God will send you to hell 🤣💀
I'm queer and my name is literally Luka. Guess how eerily personal the message of this movie was.
Nice
Neat
@@dvffYT LETS DO IT AGAIN
@@jesus7224 pardon????
Literally same lul
Queer representation is not simply about showing queer relationships. Queer representation is about showing queer experiences. This movie was all about a queer experience and that’s what makes it queer even without having explicitly queer people or queer relationships. Studios can put as many queer side characters in their films as they want, but it is not representation unless they show the experiences of those characters.
I was afraid that Giulia and Luca's relationship was going to become more than friendship. I thought they were going to use Giulia to inject heterosexuality into a film so parents/censors wouldnt be mad. I'm so glad that's not the case and that this movie about young queer kids didn't need romance at all. I love and crave stories about strong queer friendships.
@@Mafiaboii06 I should add that fantasy movies that deal with prejudice/discrimination ALWAYS are inspired by or are very obvious allegories for real life discrimination and history. It's important to know history and social issues so you can pay attention to this kind of messaging. You're going to learn some kind of lesson from a Pixar film--it helps to know where to apply that lesson.
@@cupboardgods Arthur + Aurora = Alberto
@@cupboardgods I kinda thought this movie was about friends being there for each other no matter how different they are but I really dont see Alberto and Luca as a queer couple at all neither with juliet but hey is probably just me
Me too
@@UwUchan444 same. i tried to look out for the gay subtext but didn't really see it. maybe a bit in Alberto's jealousy when Guila and Luca hang out more, but that's typical petty kids stuff as well. If ppl saw it another way then it's acceptable, but i think it's clear this was not the writers intention. there are just things that gay ppl can relate to since this movie is also themed around not hiding who you really are.
I had watched a few reviews of Luca saying that the story was a little weak and that the stakes were a low, but upon watching I can't agree. There were so many levels to this movie and I enjoyed it so much. Honestly, I would say it's one of my favorite Pixar movies in a while. Also on another note, one review noted how it was weird that the parents were dumping water on children to see if they were sea monsters as their actions would not only reveal Luca but also put him in danger. But if you think about the film as queer allegory, there are parents who purposely out their kids as a means of controlling them and keeping them from danger while simulatenously putting them in danger and stripping their choice of choosing when and where to come out. What the parents were doing was in a way similar to what Alberto did near the end. Anyway this movie was great, I still can't stand Disney as a company, but this movie was great.
Beyond the Trailer had a take like that. She said she felt like it was missing a lot of the emotional impact that Pixar movies usually have for her and that not a lot happened. She literally accused it of just copying and pasting the Little Mermaid of all movies... I just don't think it's a coincidence that she also missed 100% of the queer allegory. It's almost like the movie doesn't work without it.
Great mini analysis!
It's true that parents often sabotage their children.
@Makara I agree completely. This movie has become such a Rorschach test 😅.
I honestly like it better because of how simple it is on the surface, but it has so much depth and it feels so real i can't help but love it. I had a blast watching it
This is my new comfort film
Same for me ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Mine too
@@dedalus6188 Agreed this also helped me understand trans individuals way more. ❤
@@myaedelman Hey Arthur and Aurora are Alberto's dad and mom
@@FiveFurys5 Who are they? Are they from another movie?
Luca is my new comfort movie. It fills me with so much love. Other Pixar movies are “better” movies and all that but this one is my personal favorite.
SAME 😃😀😄
I personally love inside out because i can relate to it so much
The movie felt nostalgic to me based on the animation style and how similar it is to La Luna. It is interesting to know that the same animator (s) for La Luna worked on this film. Funny enough the school uniforms Luca and Giulia reminded me of the blue school uniforms from the new adventures of Madeline.
I THOUGHT I RECOGNIZED THE ART
I thought the art style was familiar .as soon as I saw the style for this movie I thought about La Luna
@@chteretreeart AURORA AND ARTHUR ARE ALBERTOS DAD AND MOM
It's the same director!
@@liltheyrat6236 yes, Enrico Casarosa directed the short La Luna and Luca. It is quite the pleasant surprise.
It's sad that some people have a problem with others having a different opinion or think its wrong for someone to find their own way to relate to characters. Hell, as an African American, growing up I had to try and find ways to relate to characters that looked different, moved different within society. Art is meant to be interpreted by the individual observer regardless of the creators intention and different people with different life experiences will have different interpretations.
Wow, I hadn't considered how relevant this film could also be to POC! I'd also like to say as an autistic person, that I strongly related to the allegories in the movie too. Having to hide your true self for fear of not getting accepted or trying to "fit in" with people that are different to you can sadly make sense to a lot of different groups, but at least makes it so this movie has such a beautiful message to give so many different people. Even before I saw videos like this, I also noticed the strong queer allegory too, including the whole "coming out" scene. One of my favourites out of many of the modern movies.
my worst fear was that the movie would try to do some tired, dumb love triangle between Luca, Alberto and Giulia. I was expecting Luca to ''fall'' for Giulia, making Alberto upset, and then having the rest of the movie be ''which one will Luca choose''. But nope, i'm overjoyed that Giulia stayed as just a friend to both of them, and nothing got in the way of Luca and Alberto's affections : )
EXACTLY! Going into this movie with all the queer discourse surrounding it I never expected it to be OUTWARDLY gay, but I DID get the impression from the trailers that they might try to make a romance between Luca and "The Girl" (Julia) and I was really SCARED that's where it was going
@@ginger6readspaceman Arthur and Aurora are Alberto's parents
Okay, an actual discussion comment this time, haha.
On the allies standing for marginalized groups first and foremost part. It really did make me think about how Ally-ship shifts. When I'm at Pride, it's my straight friends and family that make a point to be there for me. At a BLM protest, I make sure I'm the part of the barrier because I know being perceived as a small disabled white woman (I'm trans-masc nonbinary) puts me at an advantage above those I came to be there for. At a protest for teachers, we protect them. It doesn't matter how we perceive ourselves one day because one day we need the ally and some days we are the ally.
I dunno, it just gave me a nice feeling to realize at the end of the day, when we really involve ourselves in our community, we really do need one another.
I think covid has me sappy.
Great video!
Edit: If your take away from my comment is to come and argue politics and about whether BLM is wrong or not (the hell???), not only did you entirely miss the point of my comment, I will not engage you.
BLM? The marxist terrorist organization. Don't associate far left radical agenda nonsense with this powerful, excellent movie with an amazing message.
@@oneandonlysound3453 how about you take your racist hate away from my lovely comment? 👋
@@oneandonlysound3453 yall just love throwing around those buzz words huh?
I like the scenes with Massimo. How he is all tough and grumbling monster hunter in the beginning, but then opens up more and starts caring about them. I especially like the scene where he explains his missing arm, that it wasn't an accident, that he was just born that way. That mindset seems perfect to springboard off of onto being accepting of how others are born.
I loved when Giulias father went to look for Alberto, he was carrying the hat he wore almost the entire movie. In the ending scene, Alberto’s wearing that hat, so the father must have given it to him, showing that he truly accepted him as his son. Idk, i liked that
I liked 'Luca' :) Not as much as 'Inside Out' or 'Finding Nemo', but still quite a bit. Probably because it takes place in Italy, and I'm Italian :) It was lovely to see all the little things that Pixar got right about Italy, from the diverse way the buildings are painted and structured to the pasta to the copper pots in Giulia and Massimo's kitchen. It felt like non-Italians could take a little peek in what a typical Italian town, whether it's by the sea or further inland, is like; and Italians like me can smile with familiarity. The familiarity aside, it is a very beautiful film with plenty of vivid colors, and the artist in me just sits there in awe.
I also liked the characters, from Luca's wide-eyed innocence to Giulia's tomboyishness to, yes, Ercole's inflated self-importance (yes, I know he's a bastard, but he's a bastard that I love to laugh at; and not just because his attitude towards his Vespa much reflects how Italian men actually treat their cars and/or motorcycles XD). They felt like real pre-pubescent kids, not what Hollywood THINKS kids are like. I would have loved to have a friendship like that when I was their age.
I admit, though, that I have one main problem with 'Luca': the fact that Portorosso accepts the sea monsters so easily. Don't get me wrong, it's heartwarming and all, but it just felt indulgent, too. Luca's parents, however strict and paranoid they were, still strongly believed that the 'land monsters' were deadly and that their boy had to be kept away from the surface in order to stay safe. And they're not the only ones. Aside from the grandmother character, and the two old ladies in the town, that seems to be the general consensus: humans are dangerous, so let's give them a wide berth. And yet, the town accepts Luca and Alberto with little fuss (except for Ercole because he's a bigot). Even Massimo, who is a sea monster hunter, accepts them easily enough. Don't get me wrong, it was well-done in his case because he got to know Luca and Alberto and was thus able to look past their 'monstrous' appearance. But the rest of the town follows suit, just like that? You're telling me that an entire species of intelligent life lived in hiding for who knows how long, when really there was no need? It just feels so sugar-coated. I feel like 'Ratatouille' did it better: we see, very clearly, that humans hate rats. And yet, Remi and Linguini are able to forge a partnership (and, later, friendship) based on mutual benefit. Prejudices and barriers have to be overcome. But in 'Luca', aside from Ercole, no one seems to have any real problems with sea monsters.
Now, don't get me wrong. I didn't want to see a witch hunt. I didn't want to see the town break out into 'Savages' or 'Kill the Beast' and grab whatever makeshift weapons they could find. But a bit more of a conflict would have made the happy ending feel more earned.
This is simply my opinion, though. If you disagree, then I respect your right to do so. Overall, I give the film a 7/10.
Interesting take! I'd love to play devil's advocate for why the town may have responded like it did!
It seems like no one has seen sea monsters for a possible two generations. People tend to get desensitized to things violent from the past after a generation or so (a sad thing) and that means folks can become somewhat aloof. The only real "hunters" in town seemed to be the father (who gives a feel of a kid raised by a fanatic to hunt and just became a fisherman to pay the bills. Maybe his obsession is why he is divorced.) And the villain. Which I'm glad someone enjoyed!
It seems like its all tall tales and a way to bring in tourists. Like Bigfoot and Mothman in America. So when finally faced with, not only the prospect of sudden, bloody violence, the realization that these were children, I think the general human response would have been to turn away. At first, the instinct to fight kicked in but the moment that they had an out, everyone took it.
I think general human nature isn't physical violence and this reflected well in the film.
I also personally really didn't like how unrealistic the response to the bad kid was myself.
But that's also my own person opinions and just a thought to throw in. Really liked reading your comment! Hope you only get respectful replies!
@Cactus Juice To each his own :)
@@voidtrotter Thank you for playing the devil's advocate in a respectful way :) I admit that I am something of a cynic and a misanthrope, so maybe that's why the town's rapid acceptance of the sea monsters doesn't sit well with me. But! I recognize that it is merely my opinion, and your explanation does make sense :) Good job!
@@alicenolfi2095 its fun to have discussions and be willing to see other perspectives. :)
@@voidtrotter Indeed!
you nailed exactly what irked me about the director's knee-jerk response..
pixar: "the story is a metaphor for feeling 'different’"
media: "gee, seems like an allegory that an LGBTQ+ audience (both adults and children) should really be able to relate to”
casarosa: "no. get your minds out of the gutter, these characters are just innocent kids"
i didn't see a single interviewer ask/imply any "romance", but he just couldn't wait to jump at the opportunity to get it twisted and demonstrate his ignorance (or else he's deliberately stigmatizing/gaslighting, which is maybe the only possible way to be even more toxic)..
I’ve literally had that same argument with so many trolls, his ignorance is just fanning the flames of the homophobes smh
It irks me how he associated 'sex' with 'being gay'.
You can be gay AND innocent.
@@cmmiestcat ikr, like do you think that gay people were never children? That we popped out the womb, 23 years old in full drag?
@@inviotb Alberto's parents are Aurora and Arthur
@@flysoup3607 someone clearly didn't read/comprehend the thread, so i'll explain it again for you niiiiiiiice and sloooooow: lgbtq+ identities don't begin and end with sex/romance.
Luca means a lot more too me (then it already does) being able to see the lgtbq+ connection
same, it wouldve been so great if creators actually conform that theres lgbtq+ characters and have queer related messages
@@nar_aspan ikr!
@Cactus Juice Aurora and Arthur are Alberto's parents
*PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT TRUE, IT IS JUST A THEORY* Now, i have a feeling the creator had lied that this wasn’t a lgbtq movie so all homophobic countries AND Disney wouldn’t find out and get mad. Heres some more details:
Disney and pixar a different studios, but part of the same company, Disney decides whether or not to put PIXARS movie towards their audience. I think that the creators if the movie
wanted to make a lgbtq but very discreetly, so the whole time during the making if the movie, they had to lie that is was about the directors childhood, rather then a queer written story. Once it was published and people said that they have a concept that the movie is about queer struggles etc. Creators had to say that is wasnt so that disney and homophobic states and countries wouldnt get upset, and disney losing its veiwers, because we all know that disney isnt really about making a movie to comfort other communities like lgbtq, there more money.
@@Fiaisepic Arthur and Aurora
I like how there were already two elder women in the town and when they saw Alberto and Luca they came out. Telling older queer people that it's never too late to find out who you are and that made me really happy.
They’re Sisters
@@sagesixparties7217 my brother and I are both queer. Siblings can both be gay
giulia's dad is so wholesome
Biromantic Demi here, and I love this film and had some strong feelings about how Giulia's dad bonded with the two, especially Alberto. Not to mention Giulia's whole friendship with them. Definitely read the entire film as a queer allegory, and I nearly cried at the ending.
Honestly, i think it was nice that the boys would cling onto each other and not pull or flinch away like in other movies, it could really show kids that its alright to hug or touch your homies without them feeling like they’re ‘less manly’ in doing so! Though i gotta admit, even if the creators of pixar said the movie isn’t gay, Luca and Alberto still seems adorable together to me 🥺
I literally cried at the end, I still don't know why exactly, but I really felt this movie
samee!! and when i watched it again i cried before the sad scenes came on😭im a mess😂
It's the train scene for me every time. The betrayal scene some of the time.
It’s so bittersweet. They are all happy and going off to places that they want to be but the bond that we see between Luca and Alberto the entire way through really comes to a peak at the end when we see how much they will miss each other 💔💔
Me, being a brand new less than a month old channel, through my queer tears
I loved this movie
I love this movie too
" i pissed off a lot of homophobic troubles in the process...... LET'S DO IT AGAIN !!" 🤣🤣🤣👌👌
yes!!! the story being queer doesn't mean Luca and Alberto have to be a couple. I'm especially peeved when people say we are "sexualizing" children by saying Luca tells an inherently queer story. Being queer is so much more than sexual or romantic relationships.
"tHeY'Re KiDs"
would they say the same thing about giulia and luca?
I would love to (maby) see an animated short , where Luca and Alberto are in their early 20s and they travel the world together on a moped . to confirm their gayness, idk I just wish they gave us some way of confirmation about their gayness. It would make me so happy and would be a nice resolution to Luca and Albertos storyline. (Obviously if they’re trying to do a sequel this won’t happen . But I would just love to see this ! It would cheer me up and make me so happy)
I would love to see this-
Whenever Luca brought up, "Getting sent away" I kept on thinking that this was a correlation to Conversation therapy camps..
the director said whoever can relate to luca's story -- no matter your race, sexuality, etc -- can essentially be your story too! ^__^
I like what's been coming up more and more that "I don't need allies. I need accomplices."
Co-conspirators and saboteurs are the better benchmark than simply being an "ally."
I think Julia would probably fit the bill on that as well
Finding someone who understands you is something so special. Instead of the grander stories where the hero has to save the world, in this the main character has to find people that accept and understand them. I'm struggling with the same thing, so this movie was a lot more relatable and personal.
I think that this movie is more intended to be a story about friendship, but it definitely was queercoded, wether it be intentional or unintentional. It was most likely unintentional. Also the line that the grandmother said was DEFINITELY read to me as an allegory for queerness.
The thing that upsets me about how people are reacting is then being like “BRO WHY DIDNT THEY KISS IM SO MAD HBHNGNGVHGGBGBG” like dude- calm down. Calm the heck down. The movie is about friendship. Sure it has a queer allegory, but it’s still about FRIENDSHIP.
Plus the kids look like they're 11 or 12. Bit young for romance, imho.
@@pompe221 well, not in here southern Europe lol but yes, I'm happy that this is about friendship and how there isn't any romántic interést between the 3 of them. Just kids discovering life and making friends, leaving the fear behind
I also really love the found family trope. Many queer people struggle with having paternal figures due to losing theirs, so seeing a found family trope is great
The first 20 minutes of the movie made me so confident that Luca and Alberto were in love. He literally had a dream sequence of riding through a sunflower field with him. Tell me that's not romantic. And when Giulia showed up I was so upset because I really thought she was going to ruin the queerness. But she didn't. And she and her dad turned out to be allies. And I loved it.
5:06 that message made me cry. I honestly wish that I could see this movie in theaters
This is so amazing for me, I can relate with her character so much from her name to her personality, and I’m also an ally, I’m proud to help all my friends LGBTQ+ find comfort and support, Giulia is very special to me
9:59 my heart at that moment. Because you see the betrayal on Alberto's face, Luca realizing what he had done (he kept at it) and the fact that Alberto was now in mortal peril.
Also, you can actually see that in life.
11:00 I didn't realize that part. Huh.
My heart too!
I saw Luca after I heard some people telling me, it was going to be at least a little gay. And ho boy, was it gay! Honestly, I loved it! It was a fresh of breath air that really stuck with me. Luca and Alberto's scene really stuck with me since I heavily related to Alberto, and the betrayal he feels. Do I think everyone is going to love it as much as I do? God no, I just really like having a movie where I can feel seen..
The resolution felt very true to a lot of the working class and queer family dynamics I've encountered IRL. Giulia and Massimo remind me of the Ride or Die allies who might not "get it" but still care so much that they won't tolerate other people's BS.
The best thing about this movie is that it can be easily be interpreted in many different ways regarding multiple minorities. The story is simplistic, but can be analyzed to create a realistic message.
A lot of us quite accurately felt the allegory about luca during its initial trailer. We're also vindicated in the fact that despite romance not being the intention at all, it's still a story about connections and the shifts they experience when something different is part of the equation. It's valid to say the opinion that we deserve more rep for both male affectionate and non-toxic masculine relationships, but understand that us queer folk are just a human as what society seems normal.
We can live in and experience just as much as anything that society as a whole experiences. Any relationship is just as valid, familial, friendship, romance (also romance isn't always strictly about the concept of a pair being a couple) so the relationships shown in the movie doesn't necessarily require this much discourse about how a subjective view is wrong or not.
Indeed. I LOVE close, and intimate friendships in movies. As just a movie watcher and someone on the AroAce spectrum. And I ESPECIALLY love it when it's between two men or boys. As it actively breaks down stereotypes and is something we desperately need.
But you can most certainly have that in a movie that is NOT a queer allegory. And it's kinda a shame that the first thing that "fits the bill" for a wonderful male friendship in media in a bit was HEAVILY queercoded. Because since it resonates with me so much, it is so difficult to view it in any other light but a queer one.
I really liked Luca. It gets very close to being the same teir as Inside Out and Coco for me. Not quite there, but still close.
There was a lot I expected before watching it and while watching it that didn’t come to pass. It didn’t impact my enjoyment of the movie tho.
I knew the town had a sea monster hunting history but it wasn’t as played up as I thought it would be, even with Luca’s mom and her warning him of the danger. No killed family members or friends, no stories of encounters and/or losses from the past, nothing.
I thought there would be more to Alberto’s father, and the Bruno phrase. Maybe his father had been killed or separated from him. Maybe his father was named Bruno and was like Luca’s mom, forbidding him from going to the surface. Or Bruno was Alberto’s real name or a nickname and he used to be less adventurous and brave
I loved the sea monster designs and their segments in the water, I knew nothing about Giulia and ended up really liking her, Massimo is a big teddy bear!, and Ercole is a _spectacle,_ he was a hilarious antagonist.
Love that intro. Gotta give this channel credit, I'm hooked in the first few moments and have to finish the video, much like a good book.
He's very entertaining!
Luca is a beautiful slice-of-life story. And after we missed out on any bear-to-human and human-to-bear transformation sequences in Brave, the abundance of transformation sequences in Luca were a godsend!
Boyyy, did I cry my heart out. The queer allegory was so strong, it brought me so many memories of my teenage years, discovering myself, feeling like I connected with other queer kids only to be rejected due to their own internalized queerphobia, fearing my parents' love was truly conditional and such
Luca is definitely one of my new favorite movies ever, this was better queer story-telling and representation than the last 7 "disney's first openly gay character"'s combined. All three of the kids' storyline hit so close to home for me and I was hard-sobbing by the end (good tears!). I really wish this movie was playing in theaters, I would've gone to see it multiple times if I could've!!! I know the creators have said it wasn't intended to be a queer story but I really can't imagine it not being made with that intention, though I guess it could've been accidental, the queer elements are hard to ignore like you said. Happy pride month!
The comment “not everyone will accept him, but some will. And he seems good at finding the good ones” (it’s not word for word but you know lol) made me ball my eyes out because as an lgbtq person it felt like my struggles were seen and understood. People don’t realise how much this movie and any movie that can be relatable for us lgbtq+ people can mean to us and honestly I think that I will treasure this media for a long time. I was so overcome with emotion with every single piece of subtext that I could relate to including what I mentioned before as well as the old lady sea monsters revealing themselves to a town that is prejudice towards that kind. Whatever Disney says about this movie I won’t deny the representation that I felt when watching this and I will be forever thankful for the existence.
"So, let's do it again!" - *smashes that like button so hard*
This movie made me cry at the end, idk why but it touched my feels. But honestly this movie could be seen in a lot of ways and it definitely made it a favorite for me. I’m not lgbt myself (still support it though) but I still related to this movie. It’s easy become one of my favorites because of the feelings it gives me and many others.
I love this movie, my inner child felt so seen during this movie.
She is just so bloody adorable , supportive and understanding. A little detail that I loved was that she doesn’t have that button more most girls and women have in animation it’s a lil hooked and as someone insecure about my own more I loved seeing this cutie
“Let’s do it again!! :))” yo I fucking love this guy
When I first watched the movie, I didn't notice anything mentioned in the video. I just thought it was a charming movie about friendship; but after listening to your breakdown, I can see all the hidden messages. I love how relatable/enjoyable this movie is to everyone no matter the background.
Great video thank you. I just watch the movie last night. Got really emotional. Cried like four times. It really him home for me. Brining back memories from way back in the day.
Loved the movie!! My only complaint is that Luca left. Broke my heart that he would leave Alberto like that. You telling me there is no school there in Portarosa ? I don’t believe it.
When he said that he was going to piss off the homophobes again I grinned. You got my sub!
I personally loved Luca. As a queer person myself, I felt really emotional the whole movie, especially at the end
Honestly I was REALLY looking forward to your take on Luca since your last essay about the film and you did not dissapoint! And.... ahhh- I ended up crying like 15 minutes after finishing Luca because the grandmother's line had me reflect all the amazing people I've met over the years who support and accept me. I have a few lines from media I have stashed in my made-me-feel-things-cuz-I'm-too-gay-to-handle-this lexicon. This line is going right next to Danny Phantom telling Vlad "my parents will accept me" from the episode Bitter Reunions. I had so much anxiety coming out as bi to my parents that hearing a character that could be applicable to bisexual person confidently say that was super comforting to me.
When you decided "Let's do it again!" is when I knew I had to subscribe.
Me too. Lol.
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idk why but Alberto's body language is just so satisfying to look at because he's always doing something
The lip bite 💀
@@danwin9986 Haha! That too!
(I kinda meant when he was on the treehouse picking at the dirt between his toes)
@@TomatoAddict Arthur and Aurora are Alberto's parents
@@jesus7224 no
They did such a good job with his body language and expressions! And you're right, for some odd reason they're really satisfying to look at 😭
i absolutely loved this movie when i saw it (twice) and still do with all my heart!!!! my cousin and i, two trans and bi kids, saw it together when we were on a trip and it was just amazing to see how we feel portrayed on screen. my parents are like luca’s and it felt VERY validating to see
also the line at the end about acceptance crushed my heart and taped it back together
I really liked this movie, and I related a lot to both boys. Luca because his parents, while meaning well, at first didn't understand him and what he wanted and needed, to a point where he thought they wouldn't even come looking for him- which made me so sad for him. And Alberto's story is very personal to me- his dad left him, and poor Alberto, who clearly loved his dad a lot, kept count for a LONG time before realizing his father wasn't coming back, and internalized being abandoned as "there's something wrong with me, it's MY fault ". His mom isn't mentioned, and I think that was intentional, a reference to those of us who are left behind after revealing our true selves. Alberto spent an unknown period of time alone- months? Years? He did say he stopped making marks, so we really don't know.
I certainly had my share of people who cut me off in one way or another when I came out to them, and my dad and I still don't talk much about my queerness. I grew up in a small Mormon town, and was very afraid to come out during my childhood and teen years, to the point where I was 19 when I finally came out to someone, and I'm still stuck with feelings of shame and fear whenever I look into anything queer. So Alberto desperately clinging to the ONE person who cares about him and didn't leave ? I get that. People who accept you are treasures and it's terrifying, especially when you're first coming out, to think your allies or friends or loved ones might leave you. I liked that the movie gave both boys a happy ending, I was worried they might take a hard turn into a negative ending.
When I first watched it I felt the allegory to queerness as comforting and I could tell it was there but I couldn't quite explain how it all played out to my friends when trying to convince them about it. Thank you for this video!
“I pissed off.. a lot of homophobic trolls in the process. Let’s do it again!”
Aggressively hits subscribe button
Me too.
Great analysis of Giulia and Massimo. I loved how their characterizations unfolded. What are your thoughts on Hercole? He was very gay-stereotype coded. The limp wrist and wool sweater bits were the two that really stood out.
"my parents were gonna send me away" can refer to religious trauma (being sent to conversion therapy,) or being kicked out in my opinion
Even tho this movie is not about gay relationships, or gay characters, people need to realize the message means that no matter who you are, you should be accepted.
what I just noticed about Guilia's character is that she doesn't live in Portorosso, she lives in a bigger city with her mother who is an artist (as seen in the end credits), she is not part of the close-minded town, and so she's obviously more accepting unlike the people from Portorosso who are an allegory of a homophobic town. This is similar to a person moving from a big city, filled with different people from any race, gender and sexuality, to a small town where either religion or status is important. Guilia being their friend helped other people see them not as monsters, but as people, they were more willing to cast away preconceptions that they initially had of them. And because of this, Luca and Alberto realized that not everyone would hate them for who they are and felt safer.
damn, i didn’t think a video explaining a literal animated movie would make me cry, but here i am
Like when Ercole said to Luca and Alberto after the big reveal...that the townspeople are disgusted and horrified of them. It's something a homophobe would say.
“Let’s do it again” literally me when I do something harmless but I piss someone off in the process.
Adding to the discussion, I also loved the ending in how the two other ladies from the town revealed themselves in solidarity for Luca and Alberto. For me, I had a multitude of friends come out this pride month and as a person still closeted to my family, seeing how many of my friends who I hid myself from and how they had also hid; it reminded me of that feeling of community and understanding. And then the line that the Grandma says at the end perfectly sums it up for me. It perfectly displays this innocence that comes with a childhood understanding
Honeslty i do see the relationship between Luca and Alberto as more then friendship, like just the way Alberto looks at Luca and gets jealouse rly seems like a crush to me, plus it really related to my experiences of my first crush on my best friend when i was kid. But I kind of like that they didn't kiss at the end, idk but it would be a little out of place. Maybe in an imaginary sequel or something i imagine that their relationship would get more romantic, but so far for this movie i think it ended great
My man really said “let’s do it again.”
This movie really moved me and helped give me some motivation to come out. It’s been a slow process, but I love this movie so much and it means a lot to me ❤️
To answer the first homework question, I absolutely LOVED Luca. I disappointing thing is that everytime I try to explain why I love it so much, I’m at a loss for words. It just has an IT factor to me, like any other confort film does. And I also feel so seen by it as a queer individual.
I am an ally and when you whant into great detail about Julia's mind set and how we as allys can help I cried a bit
English isn't my first language so i don't really know how to phrase it in a way that's concise and makes sense at the same times but bear with me pls,,
It angers me so much how ignorant or homophobic people will use the "They're just friends, i hate how two boys can't be close without being seen as gay, it's toxic, it's erasing male friendships" argument to justify complete denial of the queer coding in this movie.
First of all, most queer people aren't even arguing about wether or not they're a couple. The movie is first and foremost about the experience of being a young queer INDIVIDUAL, in a hostile, heteronormative world where we cannot live freely or even survive without having to hide our sexual identity.
And secondly, why would a potentially romantic reading of this relationship tarnish in any way the image of friendships between boys/men? They are completely within their right to interpret them as best friends. But we queer people noticing elements of romance and jaleousy is NOT us forcing this interpretation on everyone else. Why can't the two interpretation co-exist peacefully? Why are the two always mutually exclusive especially when they're both so similar (platonic/romantic? They're KIDS ffs, there's not much difference between the two at that age)?? Why are they so afraid of Luca and Alberto's relationship being seen as queer?? Because the people making this argument feel threatened by queerness and it's implications. A lot of people have this insecurity where they always have to clarify "im not gay, it's not gay" when confronted with same-sex affection. It's got to do w homophobia and toxic masculinity etc. and yes, I agree that we have to get rid of this toxic masculinity stigma so that men can be able to be freely platonically affectionate with each other, but it's not limited to that. If you want to push this argument, you have to get to the end of it and realize that it should also include destigmatizing gay relationships and allowing them a space besides platonic friendships bc homophobia is literally the root of it. So them completely excluding a romantic interpretation while advocating for male friendship is so counterproductive and ignorant of the true issues while also contributing to the alienation of queer people.
It's like we exist in our own bubble outside of mainstram media, which cannot possibly be made with us in mind.
If It was a boy and a girl, peoole would've been free to interpret it as they like with no debate.
Opposite/same sex relationships are literally the same in essence, be it platonic or romantic. Why is it so controversial when it's about two boys then?? It shows how queerness is still too taboo even today, and it's frustrating.
I was already liking the movie and the way the allegory was playing out and then the fight happened. It made so much sense in terms of the allegory and I could recognize the conflict and all the different characters' emotions. Then the bike race and the Father's part, along with the two women unveiling themselves... I just liked it so much!
"I came into the world like this" -One armed Dad. THAT was one of my favorite parts of a nod to Queerness Its very clear. I loved it so much it was very moving
I'm glad I was able to find this video. You articulated everything I already was thinking about it so well.
Readus: pisses off homophobics
Also Readus: "I'll fuckin do it again"
I'm really glad there wasn't elements of romance, because it's not always needed to tell a good story. and using sea monsters in place of the LGBTQIA= community is a good way to tell this story to children and adults that need to hear it, one way or another. I hope that everyone finds people like Giulia and Massimo, who will accept them whole-heartedly for who they are.
Also the art style in this film is so soft I love it so much!!!!
Its adorableee :D definitely brought me back to my childhood
Honestly, I love the movie Luca. I know the reception to it has been pretty lukewarm, but I genuinely love it. I love the simplicity of an interpersonal story over a huge, large-scale plot, I ADORE the characters, the animation is beautiful and adorable, and the LGBT allegory is one of the best ones I've ever seen, even if it wasn't intentional. That's not to say I don't have my issues or little gripes with it, but I feel like too many people are focusing on those gripes and issues, and I just want to focus on the positives. I love this movie, I love the characters to pieces, and this movie is 100% gay, and anyone who says it isn't can bite me.
This was a take on the movie that I never thought about, but it makes me appreciate the movie all the more. I don't like when character sexuality is thrown into a kids movie unnecessarily where it doesn't have a reason to be in the film in the first place and does nothing for the plot (To me, representation is extremely important, but it needs to fit in a story and not just be thrown in a movie as a false and shallow attempt at originality by the entertainment industry... to me representation deserves more substance than what is often cranked out, and if there was more effort to do this we would have a lot less complaining from people and it would support different voices more fairly), but this movie is a great way to have a discussion that shines forth the humanity that we all share regardless of sexuality, gender, race, etc regardless of the age of the child or background of a family. This movie gets it right and teaches tolerance and compassion and I am for it. It is also my toddler's favorite movie right now. It will also be a good movie to discuss with my son when he is older because he was born infertile and will need hormone shots to assist with puberty and I want him to celebrate and embrace differences not only in others but in himself as well.
I think it is safe to say that we all find that family doesn't end with blood, but we have to be open-minded and open-hearted to let the people who enrich us in to our lives in the first place. Life is already a struggle without us making it harder to connect to others with limited beliefs narrowing our capacity to grow. That is why this movie is so awesome as a whole. It shows healthy ways to do that in any capacity in any situation. Thank you for making this video and showing me another way to look at this movie.
“Luca” is my favorite Pixar movie! I’ve liked many others but I don’t find myself watching them over and over because they’re emotionally heavy.
dang this opened my eyes. great vid and discussion about allyship!
I loved Luca- I honestly have no particular reason for loving it it's just that good to me! It has so much focus on childhood experience that is really nostalgic in a way. I could feel the LGBTQ+ influence and it was done so casually- I really loved the way everything was handled and presented and I look forward to seeing more in the media
this movie is so good, it made me cry a few times because there were moments that touched me. this is probably the first movie to ever make me cry almost about 3 times.
Honestly the movie Luca hit me hard at home. Because personally, when i was younger i had a friend/boyfriend who was trans, and after we've talked through message he told me he was trans. As someone who hasn't heard of LGBTQ when i was younger or never learned from it, obviously i was oblivious to what he meant by who he truly was. But now that i remembered over what happened, i felt suddenly touched. I remember telling him, " I'm not going to leave you, i know you and love you for who you are because you are still that same person i fallen for in day one. " Seeing Luca having that similar act from what my friend/boyfriend by coming out to me. I can understand better how queer folks have a hard time showing who they truly are but are scared at the same time. Now, i don't mainly find it a big deal they're a changed person or how they look like, but they are human and are scared of showing who they are. We should help them in any way possible to know They're okay and that there's good people.
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Yeah, that’s chill. We don’t mind.
One of my favorite recent movies. It Really struck a chord with me