Something no one (that I’ve seen) is talking about is the disability and divorce representation. The dad didn’t lose his arm from a sea monster, nor does he have some tragic backstory. He just is. And the fact that he’s disabled doesn’t have some huge impact on the plot. Also, Giulia’s parents are divorced and have shared custody. They don’t try to make this fact a sob story, or have one parent be “good” and the other “evil”. The dad is kind to the main characters, and we can see that the mom was kind to Luca and Giulia in the end credits. The best kind of representation shows things how they are: just normal parts of life. Some people just have divorced parents. Some people are just born without arms.
yes!!! there's so little positive/casual representation for non-conventional family dynamics and it made me so so happy to see it for once!!! also i fully expected them to make the dad a 'tortured-but-stupid antagonist out for revenge' a la captain hook, but he turned out to be one of my favorite characters tbh
Honestly, I don't feel like every Pixar movie has to be an emotionally tormenting and existential film. They're great at that, but the goal of Luca was to be simple and beautiful and charming. And the visuals were stunning, it definitely looks different from other Pixar films, but I really like that. It's something very new and fresh from Pixar, and I honestly adore this movie
Yeah it kinda pissed me off when he said this film could’ve been made by ILLUMINATION like !? This film was so goddamn charming, actually had a soul and a unique style.
yes! plus the feel and textures were so visually enjoyable. the fabric! the water sloshing everywhere . nothing groundbreaking, but it was still qualitityyyy and felt amazing to watch .
I think pixars reputation is kind of being used against them at this point. This movie isnt a cinematic masterpiece or emotional powerhouse like most of Pixar's earlier works, but the movie knows that. Its very down to earth, charming, and has a nice vibe and message with a lot more subtext than I would have thought. And its perfect that way. It doesnt try to be anything more than what it is, and I can respect it for that.
I totally understand the need for a more substantial story, but I really liked the fact that it was more of a feel good movie with a bittersweet ending. There weren't any high stakes, there wasn't an impossible-to-beat villain, and there wasn't any lifechanging lessons to be learned; just a movie about a trio of friends winning a competition and learning about the world. And sometimes, that's all you really need :)
Weirdly? It was like a ghibli film. Where it's less about high stakes, battles, and tension building to a climax. Ghibli films are films you watch and *feel*. It's hard to describe it, but it's like how in Spirited Away, the villain isn't really a villain, more a goal, and some of the most memorable scenes are the calm, quiet ones that feel so intensely powerful like Chihiro on the train or interacting with No Face.
That's what I loved about it. It's all simple and about FEELINGS and, warm and... I just love it so much, it's not a complicated and deep plot, I don't have to think a lot about it, it doesn't make me exhausted, I just feel it. And I can't find the word to describe how wholesome and heart warming it is (I just did)
completely agree with the theater thing. it’s not fair that pixar works extremely hard on incredible movies like soul and luca just to be disney+ originals, especially when there’s not an extra fee to see them unlike other recent disney movies. i’m hoping turning red and lightyear get the theater experience they deserve.
I don't get why they would be free (as long as you have Disney+), when Disney could make the money they love so much by making you pay an extra fee to watch them.
@@rileyywhited Cuz if you got to pay for everything while having a subscription then everyone will be canceling the subscription. Disney know people are not paying top dollar to just watch old disney movie and show. They are only in it for the marvel tv show, limited edition movie, etc otherwise they will cancel and watch new movie on netfilx. Would you pay for a service for only old movie and show? How about would you pay that when nefilx have new movie almost every other week or month?
@@bobbysmith8095 Netflix produces a lot of shit 98% of the time. Disney has a ton of things to watch. Yes some of it is old but it's not like you watched an entire series when it aired on TV as a kid. I never watched those Zack & Cody or Star Wars shows, now I can. But sure I watch the marvel shows too because it would be very dumb not to.
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Yes but Disney is trying to sell to the whole world and beat netfilx. It not going to beat them by just having old show on the service. The old show is great for a while but people are gonna want new stuff to keep paying every month. Hence disney have to decide what to show for free and what to show for money. They gotta keep people paying while not losing money. It just how the business work. I know many people won't keep paying if every new movie required more money when you are already paying for the service. People will start canceling after they watch all their favorite show. However, people are OK if most new thing are free with 1-2 item to pay every few month.
yeah its been weird with the Theater market now that there can be a Theater market again just cause so many people are expecting to get things sent to their streaming sites now ;D
Yeah I hate how they're treating Pixar and it's worrying. Raya gets the premium treatment but now 2 Pixar movies sent straight to base D+? I worry that could come with budget cuts and less opportunities.
ALSO to anyone commenting that the film shouldn't be gay cause they're kids; ask yourself if you'd have a problem with it if luca and the girl ended up together...
@@jaydad1227 I'm saying that if people read it with a gay subtext that its weird to respond saying they shouldn't be gay cause they are kids, when you wouldn't react that way if the subtext was a straight romance
I was worried Luca and Guilia would get together and I’m so glad there wasn’t anything romantic. It was just a feel good simple movie with three friends. I liked that and I liked that there weren’t romantic stakes with kids. It was refreshing and nice to just have kids being kids.
@@bareq99 I'd assume that could happen in the not so far future since they are canonically just around that age where they start to gain romantic interest
I was actually fairly glad they didn't pursue Luca having a romantic relationship at all. It felt more real that way, he was a kid experiencing intimate friendships with other kids that he hadn't had before.
@Ariana Marie Thats how I see it. I asked my brother and he compleely agreed with me. Im glad that it didnt have him get in a relationship cause he is a kid but I can see them geting together in the futer y'know?
People are so hungry for relationships, every movie I've ever seen has a relationship you can see from a mile away and 7 times out of 10 it takes away from the story cuz you need to have them fall in love, I like the variety
I genuinely loved that there was no romantic relationships explored, but rather hinted at. I watched this movie with my toddler, and it was just about friendship - which is a score for me. If they made a second, and did it as a coming of age/teenage story - I could totally see Luca trying to decide if he liked Alberto or Julia...and I wouldn't be mad at it, I'd probably enjoy it. I saw the characters as younger than that when we watched it. Now seeing people comment about them being 12 or so, I can see the annoyance! I was thinking 8 or 9.
That would be an amazing idea for a sequel! Now I really hope we get it. It would definitely be a ways in the future but that makes it more likely that it could explore lgbtq+ themes.
Even with them being 12 it is awfully young to start a relationship (any relationship). But I would love if they made a sequel with boys being older and it was about finding yourself and seeing actual LGBTQ+ representation on screen
I thought they were 9 or 10 and 11! According to google, Luca is 13 Alberto is 14 And Giulia isn’t stated but im guessing shes 12 or 13 since shes in the same class as luca at the end
@@ferresmeets1937 fair enough, but i don't really like romantic subplots in general, and star wars, as you mentioned, is no exception. that's what I meant
@@starsofnarnia Can no one of the same gender just have strong affectionate friendships? Does every close friendship have to be interpreted as romantic?
as a girl who listens to girl in red, i won’t lie i did feel like i was getting baited, but after i sat down and thought about it that was exactly like how i acted with my best female friend as a kid, and it wasn’t until later down the line that we had the realization of “yeah that’s not how most platonic friendships work.” so in my mind, when luca and alberto are like in their early to mid teens when they go through the “waaaait,,,, am i? nooooo, i can’t be….. am i?” and live happily ever after rainbows everywhere
I COMPLETELY agree. So many of their interaction gave me that sort of 'ya we're besties.....or.....' kinda vibe. It would probably NEVER happen with Disney, but a sort of coming of age sequal when they're older would be pretty great
kinda ironic how luca, soul or hamilton were "free" while horrible movies like mulan or just above average movies like Raya cost you so much extra. I know why but that rly makes mulan and raya even worse
The pixar products are going straight to free and Disney movies go to premier access As well some marvel products mainly the new marvel movies as the series are free
About the queerbaiting, I kind of liked that Luca and Alberto's relationship was platonic. Their relationship is still developing. But it was also the kind of intimate friendship I want to see more, like with the whole "We're gonna live together and have a bunch of fun" and Luca imagining what that might be like. It was cute and I can see them when they're older as being the same friends they are in the movie, or being in a queerplatonic relationship, or a romantic one. I just really loved all the friendship shenanigans.
Yea, I personally didn't think they were trying to queerbaitz nothing in the movie indicated anything more than a cute friendship to me, people who were sad they didn't get together have only themselves to blame for seeing things that weren't there1
@@ember860 Agreed, the movie is great the way it is with the trio being the adorable friends they are. (Minus Alberto being jealous for a portion of the movie, and even then, the conflict between Luca and Alberto nearing the end was interesting and fixed well.)
Yeah they weren’t queerbaiting- they addressed it before the movie came out and sand that it was a movie about friendship. Very nice relationship that they have!
The rumors I've heard about Disney possibly shutting down Pixar and keeping everything under the Disney umbrella are starting to seem less far-fetched now.
@@matthijsrietveld6051 that's because they found a lame excuse to get rid of John Lasseter, who was the heart and soul of the company; Disney doesn't like independent thinkers. I think that's why they've always struggled to find something to do with the Muppets, and why they canned Steve Whitmire too, the core values that Pixar and the Muppets have had just don't mesh with Disney's pro-money, pro-broad commercial appeal attitude.
@@matthijsrietveld6051 i was thinking this! Like in the beginning you could differentiate between Pixar and Disney animation styles and now it’s all starting to look the same! ://
@@DecemberDaydreams The vast majority were about hugging, which he was known for. An investigation conducted prior to his hiring [at Skydance Animation in 2019] found that no previous claims of sexual assault, propositioning or harassment had been filed against Lasseter,[44] and "[...] there were no findings of secret settlements by Disney or Lasseter to any parties asking for a settlement."[44]
I really cried painful tears at the end of the movie thinking of Alberto’s life. It just hurt me so much imagining him alone waiting for a father that would never come and then stumbling upon Luca, who he said “got him off the island” which I just find beautiful. Like, Alberto was ready to stay in that tower alone and lost waiting for someone who didn’t really love him but then found someone better at the end. Not just that, but he also found someone who could represent a father figure to him. I just couldn’t stop crying lol Alberto deserves the world tbh
Hmm I felt like the movie was more about friendships and not anything romantic... Like you do feel left out if you're only friend started hanging out with someone else, that was pretty relatable. I didn't think there was any romantic subtext either between Luca and Alberto or Luca and Julia... just platonic friendships.
I think there’s multiple interpretations but truly I feel like I resonate with this one the most. Alberto has no one so course he would feel threatened and sad if the first person that entered his life was getting along with other people. Also they’re like 12 LMAO
People are mad that it’s on Disney plus but if it was in theaters people would have said put it on Disney plus People’s logic makes little sense I don’t think it’s that serious of an issue it’s still gonna do well and it’s likely just temporary
I disagree with the statement that this doesn't look as great as other Pixar movie. I actually found this art direction and stylisation far more charming than the likes of soul or toy story 4 which are in my eyes the "generic 3D animation movie" aesthetic these days. Also I love how mundane the story was. The characters have realistic goals and it's the bond between the characters that makes the story. Not the journey they take through the world. My only criticism was the beginning that felt a little more generic with the whole "I want to do something but my parents won't let me" trope. But after the first act I thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope Pixar learn a lot from the success of this movie. Soul had many more flaws in my opinion.
I agree with Toy Story 4. It had very impressive detail, (a couple of scenes looked like they were live action to me at first glance) but it lacked warmth and character. Luca had that in abundance.
yes i loved the art style. too late at night rn for me to find the proper words to describe it, but the characters looked a bit like wooden puppets or something to me idk, not per se like pinocchio although they referenced it, but it was like they were small puppets in a miniature town and they would perform a play while you were looking as an audience, especially what comes to mind is the little sequence of luca and giulia walking across the roofs at night. And the way their mouths would sometimes be really big was a little jarring but in a good and comedic way. I liked that the characters didnt have the classic 3d disney face. And the little thing that was the see through uncle was fun. And with all of that still some mixed in beautiful realism.
@@marisophi definitely! I can see where you're coming from. My first impression was it felt very kikis delivery service in terms of tone and mood. Stylistic also similar to Ghibli is ways but had its own spin in places. I loved the aesthetic, especially in the hills and country side
Luca was never about love or relationships anyway. It was really just about the friendships he had with both Alberto and Giulia and how those friendships evolve over the summer. In fact the director himself said that in an interview. the story was based off of Enrico Casarosa's childhood friendships. I personally think that it was good not to have any romance because it shows how important friends are without getting that deep and also because it is a kids movie targeted at six-year old and kids aren't really thinking that far about romance and stuff
the characters were obviously gay... They are daydreaming of riding tandem on Vespas together multiple times. why not day dream having there own vespa each? There were literally 30 other vespas in the dreams... -Movie cliche of enjoying spending so much time with someone where you lose track of time. vespa is a metaphor for their romantic relationship. -Luca literally giggles like a teenage school girl in his bed thinking about the time he spent with Alberto and the "Vespa". -Alberto defends Luca by saying "how great he smells"... -"Im his friend, I know what he needs." -Giulia finds out Alberto is a fish (gay) and Luca distances himself from Alberto in front of Giulia denying of who and what he really is a fish (gay). Making Luka accept who he really is. (Cliche in movies where gay people distance themselves from outted person as a defense mechanism) -Alberto was visibly Jealous Luca was hanging out with Giulia.. -Scene when they are doing each other's hair with snail slime, turn around and give each other an approving smirk and nod. Followed by a panning camera shot from behind where they both put their arms around each other on the beach looking at the romantic, beautiful Italian beach sunset. -"Alberto stop putting things in your mouth" -"We need to win the race so we can run away together" -Its literally a fish out of the water story... -This is a disney movie, the director has to say its a platonic relationship. I feel like the writer director and producers had a bet to see how gay they can make it while. Still getting it approved by Disney.
@@frankd9945 I see all your points I just find it annoying how every film has to have a romantic subplot, lgbtq or not its nice to see a movie that was nothing more than friends, they could get together later in life but if they had it in the movie it would've come out of nowhere, I like the ending as is
@@theflaminglitten-fo6jd the ending is fine. But the story wasn't a romance it was a coming-of-age/ coming out story. And most of those stories they meet a love interest but they don't ultimately stay together but uses it as a catalyst to grow into the person they're supposed to be.
Okay, so- The part about how 'also because it is a kids movie targeted at six-year-old and kids aren't really thinking that far about romance and stuff' is kinda...Yikes- Have you seen the Disney Princess movies? Most of them end up being in a romantic relationship with a male character, and those movies were targeted at six-year-olds...? Is it just 'not okay' for six-year-olds to see LGBTQ+ relationships...? That's kinda what I'm getting there at that argument-
@@someguy5926 I like them both, although I do sort of prefer Amphibia because the main characters are all just so compelling and likable! The Owl House has nice characters too, but Luz has always felt kind of generic to me tbh.
Personally, this is my most favourite Pixar movie of all time. Pixar just keeps improving every single release. It's such a shame how Disney treats Pixar, everybody in Pixar deserves so much more than that
Friendly reminder: movies (along with all art) are subjective People will have many different interpretations that often stem from personal experiences and view points So, people who are LGBTQ+ or have some association to the community are likely too see things from that point of view Another example of this was when people genuinely interpreted Hermione as black, and it was a lot of people who were black who saw her that way. People will find ways to identify with fiction, especially if they are a demographic that gets less representation, and there's nothing wrong with that Personally, I find it interesting to see many different interpretations, and it feel that's the best way to go about it.
Absolutely, Luca just does a phenomenal job at providing characters and situations that are really easy for LGBTQ+ people to relate to. The film never suggests it’s about LGBTQ+ kids, but it fits so well that people can easily interpret it that way.
@@simplyepic3258 to be fair this fits many narratives. The Jewish community ( religion tbh) , lgbtq, racial undertones. I’m glad it’s fully rounded with a baseline of friendship.
@@spirit614 I said "people who are LGBTQ+ or have some association are LIKELY too things from that point of view" Likely doesn't mean always, or even close to always. It simply means more than note 😌
@@joewinkler8932 Bi person here: I’m gonna guess you are talking about the idea of coming out being the gay allegory and not the two male leads “being together” as the allegory, even then it’s incredibly immature to act like you have the higher opinion and everyone who disagrees is a bad person because now all your credibility is gone. The creator has confirmed that the two male leads are only friends and are based off of his own friendship in his childhood but that the rest can be interpreted however the audience wants. It’s not blatantly gay, it’s gay depending on the person watching, please act more mature with these things, you are making the LGBT community look horrible, and especially on pride month too
i felt like the whole thing was kind of a metaphor for being… ya know.. *limp wrist* idk them being able to seem just like everyone else (straight passing) the town trying to _fish out_ [im so sorry] any sea monsters (or reminded me of the lavender scare in america and them being hunted down when they revealed their true selves. all of that combined with just like the vibe of the movie. and i felt like the two elderly women revealing they were sea monsters at the end was very reminiscent of your aunt and her female roommate who have been living in the same one bedroom apartment for 40 year
@@elielinightfever When they're forcing us to pay for streaming service upon streaming service, we have to find a way to watch what we enjoy without being forced to give money to evil corporate entities
your comment on the animation of this film legitimately hurt me as a longtime fan of animation and this industry. this is one of the best animated films pixar has ever done to me, and no, it’s nothing like dreamworks or illumination. the style is more akin to what sony pictures tries to do with their cgi animation, they made it more cartoonish and that does NOT at all mean weak. it was stylized, unique, the character movements mimicked how 2d animated characters would move a lot of times. the character designs, to me, were a lot more interesting than a lot of pixar’s recent, more realistic stuff. it was absolutely beautiful to look at. i am so bored when animation tries to mimic reality as much as possible when it’s a medium meant to be used for the unrealistic and has endless potential for creativity. idk, i am personally not a fan of pixar’s fake deep films. they are convoluted and leave a lot of things halfway. this is the first movie of theirs ive loved since coco. AND YES IT WAS ABSOLUTELY GAY ☝🏼
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT AND I FINALLY FOUND IT!! I completely agree, when I watched this movie with my family my eyes were glued to the screen just because of how wonderful the animation and character designs and all of that stuff was!! And I also 100% agree with you about the realism thing, seeing every new animated movie try to be hyper-realistic is EXTREMELY annoying to me, I could rant about it for days. I feel like people need to appreciate the work that goes into more cartoonish styles as much as they do realism, because once you dig into it there's so much amazing stuff to find!!
as someone who studies animation, the scene where luca first gets on land and has to learn how to walk, i couldnt help but think how typical that was for animated film (which is probably also one of the reasons why they put it there, as a little wink). I could just imagine the animators trying to think "how would a fish try to walk" and having to act it out and having so much fun. For some reason i also really appreciated all of the biking animation. There is just something so satisfying about mundane tasks/actions being animated beautifully. I also thoroughly enjoyed a lot of giulias movements.
I feel the same way about this animation! After watching Spider-Man into the Spider verse, I wanted more of that expressive style. They both also have a stop motion effect that mimicks 2D animation that works really well. Watching this on a 4K TV with HDR was a real treat!
I actually kind of like the style, makes me think of a puppeteering-style movie, especially with the greasy/foggy lens that added to the "retro" italian style Idk
Yeah, that too! I feel like the underwater world wasn’t too interesting to look at, but that may have been the point because Luca is supposed to be curious about the surface. But the animation was still great, in terms of both style and technology.
I actually like the decision not to have a real love interest. I'm not Anti gay or love interest but I like how not every film has a love interest anymore.
This movie was so sweet it was an absolute delight, it was honestly kind of nice to have a movie with a simpler plot that you could just. Sorta kick back and relax to! Just a good ol’ time. Just a good time all around - it really deserved a theatrical/cinematic release, but when has disney made any smart decisions recently (And the gay subtext is honestly just text at this point, even w nothing between Luca and Alberto, the beats of the story are still drenched (heh) in queerness)
Am I the only one who feels like Luca should've been longer? Especially at the beginning where they do introduce these two new worlds to us we really don't get a lot of time to explore them. If the film was given say even an extra 15 - 20 mins at the start just properly introduce the setting I think it would've come off as less rushed as it did. As far the...romantic side of things in the film, I'm kind of glad they just stuck with the platonic friendships in the end with the hint that they could turn into something more later on. Because firstly, the characters are kids! Can't be any older than say....10 or 11 I think? Can't remember if their ages were ever mentioned. Kids that young aren't focused on romantic relations with one another, they're far more like Luca - with dreams and wild imaginations. Alberto becoming jealous of Luca spending time with Julia would be a natural reaction for him. Luca is probably the first friend he's made and let's not forget that the kid probably has some kind of separation anxiety because of his dad up and leaving him parentless (do we know what happened to his mum?) for x amount of years before the film starts. I personally really like that they made it a platonic relationship between the three because we really don't see that often with films anymore where there are two male characters and a female character. Eventually one of the guys gets the girl and I'm so tired of that trope. Anyway, rant over! Lol. I really enjoyed Luca myself, the only film gripe that I have with it was that it just felt a bit too short.
Disney: puts Mulan 2020 for Premier Access for 30 QUID!!! Which also supports LITERAL CONCENTRATION CAMPS Also Disney: puts masterpiece Soul for free on its service therefore depriving talented artists of their reward sOUnDs REaLlY FaIr dOeSnT It??!!!! Seriously tho this is just wrong on so many levels
I agree with the Mulan part and it’s really disappointing. However, if Disney+ started to release movies with Premiere Access, y’all would’ve said that “Disney is greedy”. When HBO Max announced that they were releasing WB movies for free, Disney received a lot of backlash for not doing the same thing.
@@theawesomebat1244 I feel people are mad that they get to see ‘masterpiece soul and Luca’ for free LOL like who cares! Premium just makes you wait longer
Soul was free because it was delayed by 6 months. I don’t see why people want to pay a $30 fee to watch a movie on a subscription based streaming service.
@@stichexsperament6263 ikr. Also Pixar movies are very ‘random’ and aren’t the best tbh though they are high quality. Disney movies in my opinion were much better.
putting aside some of the unfulfilled storylines, I think it was intentionally meant to be simple and charming, because it was such a queer-coded story, but specifically targeted to children and LGBT+ adults who recall this time in their life, in a way other Pixar movies are intentionally ambiguous in who they are targeting (despite being touted as animated children's films - which we all know from experience is a lie and can hit you at any age) - which may have contributed to the strange gap you felt between this and other Pixar films. The blatant allegory for the experiences of queer youth trying to make their way into the world and not being accepted shone through all the more bc the overall plot was super simple... there were hints here and there of possibly deeper themes, like how Luca and Alberto actually /weren't/ fully accepted by everyone in Porto Rosso, despite it seeming like that.. there are people who scoff and walk away shaking their heads, but it's intentionally focused on the circle of acceptance and happiness to show these kids you shouldn't focus on the people that don't matter, and find the good people that accept you as you are... Massimo being a renowned sea monster hunter (see: homophobe) but being the second after Giulia to accept Luca and Alberto was a very important message to put out there. Not everyone will, but people can change. I don't particularly mind the lack of explicit mention of gayness or queerness, I don't think it was queer baiting bc the themes were so obvious, and exceptionally relatable, even if you whittled it down to purely just fear of The Other and feeling like an outsider and wanting to be accepted (see: Giulia, a human who connects with Luca and Alberto in this way but for different reasons)...
Really my whole interpretation on the 'that was the gayest thing I've ever seen' thing is I think, while the storyline wasn't meant to revolve around it, Luca definitely had some sort of underlying childhood crush on Alberto. Like one commenter said, it was something like looking back and realizing you had a crush on your friend before you even knew it. In a way, I'm glad that they didn't have any romance because I never really saw Alberto reciprocating the feelings until the end, though by then it wouldn't feel right as it wasn't evolved enough. But yes. Verrrrry fruity.
Mark The direction confirmed there are no romantic relationships in this movie. Gay people can have friends too you know? You saying the director confirming there are no romantic relationships means that Luca is 100% not gay is like me saying the director confirming there are no relationships means that Luca is 100% not straight. It doesn’t make any sense.
@@-Theo- Woah I just quoted the director. Why are you going off on me. As an LGBTQ person myself I know i know we can have friends. And the director also said the characters in luca are straight in a different interview.
That's interesting because I felt like Alberto was the one who had romantic feelings for Luca. Alberto began to become paranoid about the idea of Luca becoming closer with someone else (Giulia), as he felt his bond with Luca was special and didn't want to believe that anyone else could share Luca's feelings in the same way as he was. Also his entire goal was for him and Luca to always be together with their Vespa. The idea of offering to run away together and see the world has always been a romantic gesture and it becomes more obvious throughout the movie how Alberto is the one more focused on that goal than Luca. The movie is told largely from Luca's perspective. It's possible he hasn't grasped the complexities of romantic relationships yet and will later look back on these moments when he's more mature to realise that Alberto may have had deeper feelings that he failed to identify in his naivety- making Alberto's choice to let Luca go so he could live a happier life even more tear-jerking. Maybe if Luca knew that Alberto loved him he would've said something more comforting or chosen to stay?
I’m kinda glad they didn’t go with the obvious idea of making Alberto and Luca gay tbh. That’s the clear metaphor they were going for with the whole “secretly being something everyone hates” idea, but actually having them be that would be too on the nose and probably drive people away. The people who would boycott it after seeing “DISNEY GAY LEADS” headlines are the exact people who need to see it and be taught about expectance through the beauty of this movie. (For context, I am queer, please don’t take this as homophobia. I just as absolutely starving for queer representation in Disney movies as the next person.)
I kind of agree, watching it my first thought was "this is so gay" almost immediately followed by my second thought which was "but surely they aren't going to do it, because even though the home point of the movie is acceptance no matter how you look at it Luca and Alberto are not human, and if they actually go through with that it'll be saying that gay people aren't human, even if that's not what it's saying that's how lots of people are going to see it no matter what! So please tell me they're not going to do with that" And since there's no romance between Luca and Alberto or Luca and Julia you can't really say it went either way I can't go? There's no romance in this movie so it's not gay or straight, even though it's a very gay movie!
Not exactly in disagreement, though I wouldn't think their being gay is an obvious idea, given that Disney has never attempted it in an animated movie, with leads, anyway.
I literally just watched this movie and I loved it. The relationship between Luca, Alberto, and Gulia was adorable. And I almost cried at the end. Although, I almost wish I could see Luca and Alberto reunite at the end of the school year, but I understand they couldn't really work that into the movie. Anyways, great movie!
I’m actually fine with Luca going to Disney Plus on its own, since it feels very much like a streaming movie, but that fact that the absolute masterpiece that is Soul also has to go to streaming despite you having to pay $30 for the garbage pile that is the Mulan remake
Honestly I’m not too bothered that there was no actual gay stuff because everything about the story just screams “this is a metaphor for closeted LGBTQ+ kids’ struggles”
It's all about the feelings, that subtext of the plot and how we relate, tho I would have loved some more explicit representation, I'm happy with what we can understand from what we have
Just another day to ask Seamus to review the only worthy Disney remake, that time they took a mediocre movie from the 40s and rebooted it with an awesome TV show, full of action, adventure, hidden depts and only the best fanservice... And then Disney killed it with lack of marketing, cancelling it after only one 13-episode season. I'm talking of course of Legend of the Three Caballeros.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 You haven't heard of "Legend of the Three Caballeros"? It's an awesome Donald Duck cartoon as good as Ducktales, but it was cancelled in 2017, possibly to make way for the Ducktales reboot. Check it out, it's really underrated. I think it's on Disney+.
When I first saw the trailer for this movie, it gave me Studio Ghibli vibes. It was something about the composition of the landscape and cityscape shots. I watched this movie earlier today, and the first thing I said after it ended was that it felt like a Studio Ghibli film. It has the same vibe as Kiki's Delivery Service or Whisper of the Heart, where it's just about kids living their lives in a small town and growing up along the way. Anyway, I really enjoyed it and hate that it didn't receive a theatrical release.
Luca aired in cinemas in countries where Disney+ is not available (including the Middle East), it was the first movie I watched in cinema since 2019 and it was an amazing experience
Fact: Everybody who is getting Disney+ right now is probably getting it for Loki. And even if they are only getting Disney+ for Pixar, Monsters at Work is coming out in a couple of weeks anyway. There is literally NO reason to waste Luca from theaters as a marketing gimmick for a Streaming Service the entire audience is going to already have.
Actually I have this strange feeling that theaters rejected Luca because it had a gay storyline in a kids film. Again, just a theory, dont take my word for it. Dear god dont it's probably wrong.
@@andrewpalmer8116 I'm pretty sure that most theaters will play whatever the distributors give them if they have enough screens and something hotter isn't already playing.
These characters are soooo young! Do they really need to be coupling up? As a kid, I definitely had crushes, and definitely got jealous (like Alberto) and I was definitely bi. MM/FF isn't the only way to write queer stories. I saw a lot of my experiences as a queer person reflected in this film, and it was beautiful.
@@themiddleones11 Exactly this. The director could have stayed silent and leave it all to interpretation, but now all the homophobes keep saying we try to ruin everything and that tHeY arE nOt GaY
@@themiddleones11 Literally the ending message, "some people will never accept you, but some others will", is the gayest thing I've ever heard. There's no way this movie isn't aimed at a gay audience.
@@themiddleones11 I think they said that because I think it was inspired by their childhood so I understand why they don’t like people comparing their platonic friendships to a romance story.
@@darksev.6468 That was exactly my thought! It feels like a parallel to a coming out story. When Alberto “comes out” as a sea monster, Luca isn’t ready so he acts like he isn’t one. This is like one side of a secret gay relationship coming out and the other not wanting to. Then, when he decides to face the rain and save Alberto, even if it means revealing himself, is definitely his “coming out” moment. Then, when Giulia’s dad stands in front of the crowd, who are all saying how disgusted they are, and he says “I know what they are. They are Alberto and Luca.” This was basically like saying “Gay rights are human rights.” And of course the straightforward “Some will never accept him, but others will” is not even subtle at all. I kind of…like it this way, though? It’s like a gay allegory. You can get want you want out of it. It’s left up to interpretation, which is my favorite kind of storytelling.
I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't see the "queerbaiting". They're friends and while I see the potential, "chemistry" does not equal "queerbaiting". But I 100% agree about the storylines that are added and then just dropped. I couldn't figure out what the message was because every message was dropped at the last second. Edit: The line/excuse about them being children was a mistake. I was more implying that it was based on a real friendship the director had but that wasn't made clear at all (I even once considered at 13 if I was gay so yes, I know gay kids exist.)
I'm really really bored of the 'they're children!' excuse. You know there are gay kids, right? I came out when I was 13 and then got berated online for it, because I was a bad influence on kids (at age 13.... Right). Idk if I would consider this film queer baiting, probably more a missed opportunity than anything else, but Disney is clearly willing to implement actual queerbaiting in their other films (the amount of 'Disney's first gay character!' articles I've seen is proof enough). Therefore, I feel fairly justified in being irritated with their utter lack of queer rep, especially in films where it was either promised or evidently hinted towards pre release.
@@abbystafford7549 the children excuse is so bad, honestly! Nobody complains about straight children being romantically involved in film, it’s just a double standard. And yeah, if you want to see a really good piece of LGBT media, I HIGHLY recommend The Owl House, it’s on Disney Channel and the creator is bi! Also, there’s a lesbian relationship developing in the show :)
This is off topic but I never realized how easily entertained viewers of Seamus’s videos are. Like, if Seamus mentions vlog or table we are immediately satisfied and feel a need to watch the rest of the video…..
I absolutely looove this movie. As I was watching this, I was totally convinced that I must be crazy for thinking that they’re gay, but honestly I think they are. And if you think about it like that, this is an emotionally heavy and tormenting movie. Like the scene where the bully punches Alberto for “not belonging” is heart wrenching when you think about it in that light. This movie is something I’ll be thinking about in a way that I’ve never thought of other Pixar movies. I’ve never felt anything about other Disney movies (except finding dory) but this movie really makes me feel and I love it for that.
I completely disagree with the animation style thing, I’m tired of hyper realism texturing and Disney princess face I’m glad we got something different Honestly I don’t understand why people expect consistency in art style and writing for a studio, a thing being made by the same studio as a different thing only means that they’re both produced by the same company, you should expect consistency in quality yes but let the people working there have fun and experiment with new ideas. We’re never gonna get another spider-verse if people go “oh it doesn’t look like Soul :/“ whenever someone tries a new animation style, that’s completely ok as an opinion but not as criticism
@@victorthecollector9198 criticism is based on opinions dude, if I criticize a movie for having bad or unlikable characters then that's what I think, he never said that his opinion was set in stone that everybody should go along with it, it's just what he personally thinks.
@@Treeeee2008 1. the expression of disapproval of someone or something based on perceived faults or mistakes. 2. the analysis and judgment of the merits and faults of a literary or artistic work. That’s what criticism means, it can be based on personal opinion but said opinion has to be backed up by evidence or else it’s just an opinion, not a criticism. Besides, I didn’t say he couldn’t give his opinions, I simply stated that I disagree with him, and that he shouldn’t frame his opinions as if they were valid criticism instead of just personal preference.
I really like the message in this movie that it's okay to be different. They executed this message in a different way too. I liked how it was said that yes, luca is different, but he will learn that some people will like him and some people won't. And that's how life works. He was accepted by some pretty quickly even though there were some that were less sure. Luca was able to just be who he is and accept others' opinions of him
It is a genuine story of male friendship and I hate this idea that men can't be soft and loving with each other without being gay. Like people want to talk about toxic masculinity you get that when men have to be hyper straight at all times so they aren't seen as gay. Let boys be friends with other boys without going no kiss.
For real, tho, “Luca” was absolutely amazing! Also, my knowledge, it was the first Pixar film to feature a steam locomotive (and if i have anything to do with it, it won’t be the last).
i absolutely loved luca. i understand not everyone will agree, but honestly it was just the film i needed at this point in my life and so for me it was just incredible.
At the end with the view from the train with the clouds (With the fin.) I really thought there was gonna be a rainbow. Disney definitely edited that out.
I just watched the movie and it is SO GOOD! I’ve experienced many of the same situations of friendships that Alberto felt. I’ve felt lonely, I’ve felt scared that I’m losing a friend. I’ve felt like a waste of time, I’ve felt like no one wants me around because I get distracted, and I want to do my own thing, and it takes me forever to do anything. I saw myself in Luca with feeling like I can’t do it. I’m not confident. I have self destroying thoughts. I have imagination. I want to follow my dreams and I just hope people accept me even though it sounds crazy. The animation is so cute and stylized. I’ve never seen one like it. I love it very much. It was the best balance of emotional and happy moments. I felt like I knew what they were thinking because all of the characters I could put myself in and I knew what they were thinking because I’d been there too. I mean in not a sea creature but I wouldn’t be mad. Also if anyone is wondering I have adopted Luca. I call dibs. If you kidnap him I will have to call the police. Also if I ever get my own pet I will name him Luca. It’s such a cute name!! Such a wholesome movie 💗
The only thing I have to say about Luca is that it is DEFINITELY queer, even if the director says it isn't. And the reason that is, is that if you have to tell someone how to enjoy a piece of media then you have failed as an artist. I can't play you a song I wrote and say "that was sad. You were supposed to feel sad listening to this." Thats not how art works. So nomatter what the director says, it doesn't change the fact that this movie has like 50 references to being gay, from the shame of Luca saying "I'm a good kid" in the beginning, to his parents trying to send him away, to Luca's grandma saying that some people won't except him. Its a queer movie and it was very obviously made to be. The director just doesn't like it.
Huh, well I'm one of those guys you mentioned in the Soul video. I didn't love it. I don't think it's bad, I recognize how well is made, but I don't share the hype and respect people have for it. What you saw as the genius of not answering those big questions about life and death, I saw a failed attempt at being deep. Meanwhile I really connected emotionally with Luca, and found it visually more interesting than Soul
the earlier versions of the movie storyboard had luca have a crush on Giulia, like 'straight'-up love at first sight.. and it was a trio of boys and at some point during storyboarding, Alfredo was supposed to turn into a giant monster they made it more gay than it was
yeah i really liked how they handled it, but i feel like a sequal or a spin off series where they explore the relationship between luca and alberto could be pretty cool
Guys, you can probably find a way to watch this illegally online if you don't wanna give more cash to Disney. If they're gonna force us to pay for 20 streaming service subscriptions, they're gonna get what we deserve. Watch this stuff online, they can't stop all of us
I was so excited when Luca was coming out in theaters, I was excited to go out and see it with my friends. Then they changed it to being a Disney plus original I was so upset, the movie looked so pretty and just imagine how cool it would’ve looked on the big screens.
I would have gladly paid extra to see Luca early as it was a great, feel good film that has made its way upon my favorite films list. It gives me huge being a child in the summer and learning about the world and relationships work. I would definitely recommend this if you want a simple, happy film to watch to de-stress
Day 12 of asking Seamus to review Twisted: The Untold Story of a Royal Vizier, The Guy who didn’t like Musicals, Black Friday, and any other Starkid musicals he considers watching.
It’s not gay, it’s supposed to be about kids. The creator said specifically it’s about *friendship*. I’m gay too and even I can see that because I’m not toxic
Yeah I don’t mind gay people. I just don’t like when people ASSUME people are gay because they’re affectionate with their friends. I see girls act like Luca and Alberto and consider themselves straight. My husband and his best friend are also huggy and touchy and neither of them are gay
Actually! Alot of people don’t really see it as a gay… kind of, they relate to it when they were younger and didn’t know about their sexuality yet. Or that’s just my perspective from reading the comments and watching videos
I honestly think that I’m one of like 5 people in this world that actually liked Luca as a character more than Alberto. Like yes, Luca shouldn’t have screamed “Sea Monster!!” at his bro, but like Alberto shouldn’t have been blatantly disregarding and blatantly attempting to prevent Luca’s dream of going to school from coming true. Tbh, most people seem to empathize with Alberto more, but I empathize with Luca in that scene more.
I'm honestly glad that Luca is so light-hearted. I tried watching Onward but once I realized it was about two kids wanting more time with their deceased dad, I had to turn it off. My dad died very suddenly not even a month before that movie came out and it was just. WAY too soon. I also haven't seen Soul because I'm still not really ready to tackled stuff involving death or the afterlife or any of that. So yeah, Luca being a bit lighter in tone is a breath of fresh air for me. I'd also argue that Luca does tug at the heartstrings, just maybe not quite as intensely as other Pixar films. The scene where Alberto outs himself and Luca acts horrified instead of supportive was. . . Rough. And the scene where Alberto revealed that his dad basically abandoned him, while kinda rushed and not really set up that well, definitely made my chest ache.
I would get mad at Seamus for saying "Pixar's worst film since Cars 3" but to be honest, this only reveals that he's been a closeted Cars 3 fan all this time.
I remember watching this with a friend and we kinda talked about the LGBTQ+ relation with the movie for a bit and had a few moments where we both were like, “That was pretty gay.” And in that last scene, my friend said, “That was very gay, wait, am I allowed to say that?” and I just said, “Yeah, I think so. Luca and Alberto’s entire relationship felt very gay.” And I still don’t know whether or not to take the movie as Queerbating, probably not since I didn’t see any hinting or mention of the film possibly being gay. But overall, I still definitely have to ship the two.
Something no one (that I’ve seen) is talking about is the disability and divorce representation. The dad didn’t lose his arm from a sea monster, nor does he have some tragic backstory. He just is. And the fact that he’s disabled doesn’t have some huge impact on the plot. Also, Giulia’s parents are divorced and have shared custody. They don’t try to make this fact a sob story, or have one parent be “good” and the other “evil”. The dad is kind to the main characters, and we can see that the mom was kind to Luca and Giulia in the end credits. The best kind of representation shows things how they are: just normal parts of life. Some people just have divorced parents. Some people are just born without arms.
yes! i loved that!
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@@Silvia.Araujo is that u cryin? Cuz I can’t tell
yes!!! there's so little positive/casual representation for non-conventional family dynamics and it made me so so happy to see it for once!!! also i fully expected them to make the dad a 'tortured-but-stupid antagonist out for revenge' a la captain hook, but he turned out to be one of my favorite characters tbh
@@rainyreverie8550 Same, he was my favorite character, too
I was more invested in Alberto’s storyline than I was with Luca’s, so when Giulia’s dad basically adopted him in the end I cried, not gonna lie
awwwwwwwwww. I feel you. I didnt cry because my emotions dont make sense but I can see why
lol
Same 😭
the moment the dad goes out to look for him was so heartwarming T-T, honestly kinda wished we got more interactions between the two
SAME
Honestly, I don't feel like every Pixar movie has to be an emotionally tormenting and existential film. They're great at that, but the goal of Luca was to be simple and beautiful and charming. And the visuals were stunning, it definitely looks different from other Pixar films, but I really like that. It's something very new and fresh from Pixar, and I honestly adore this movie
Totally agree! Although I do love Pixar’s more existential films such as Soul, I really enjoyed this film’s overall style too.
I agree I love the animation
Yeah it kinda pissed me off when he said this film could’ve been made by ILLUMINATION like !? This film was so goddamn charming, actually had a soul and a unique style.
yes! plus the feel and textures were so visually enjoyable. the fabric! the water sloshing everywhere . nothing groundbreaking, but it was still qualitityyyy and felt amazing to watch .
💯💯💯
I think pixars reputation is kind of being used against them at this point. This movie isnt a cinematic masterpiece or emotional powerhouse like most of Pixar's earlier works, but the movie knows that. Its very down to earth, charming, and has a nice vibe and message with a lot more subtext than I would have thought. And its perfect that way. It doesnt try to be anything more than what it is, and I can respect it for that.
I totally understand the need for a more substantial story, but I really liked the fact that it was more of a feel good movie with a bittersweet ending. There weren't any high stakes, there wasn't an impossible-to-beat villain, and there wasn't any lifechanging lessons to be learned; just a movie about a trio of friends winning a competition and learning about the world. And sometimes, that's all you really need :)
Weirdly? It was like a ghibli film. Where it's less about high stakes, battles, and tension building to a climax.
Ghibli films are films you watch and *feel*. It's hard to describe it, but it's like how in Spirited Away, the villain isn't really a villain, more a goal, and some of the most memorable scenes are the calm, quiet ones that feel so intensely powerful like Chihiro on the train or interacting with No Face.
Now that you mention it, I'm getting Slice of Life themes from this movie, with the main difference being that sea monsters are the main characters.
That's what I loved about it. It's all simple and about FEELINGS and, warm and... I just love it so much, it's not a complicated and deep plot, I don't have to think a lot about it, it doesn't make me exhausted, I just feel it. And I can't find the word to describe how wholesome and heart warming it is (I just did)
@@catelynh1020 I agree with this, spirited away just had such a great vibe to it
completely agree with the theater thing. it’s not fair that pixar works extremely hard on incredible movies like soul and luca just to be disney+ originals, especially when there’s not an extra fee to see them unlike other recent disney movies. i’m hoping turning red and lightyear get the theater experience they deserve.
I don't get why they would be free (as long as you have Disney+), when Disney could make the money they love so much by making you pay an extra fee to watch them.
@@rileyywhited Cuz if you got to pay for everything while having a subscription then everyone will be canceling the subscription. Disney know people are not paying top dollar to just watch old disney movie and show. They are only in it for the marvel tv show, limited edition movie, etc otherwise they will cancel and watch new movie on netfilx. Would you pay for a service for only old movie and show? How about would you pay that when nefilx have new movie almost every other week or month?
@@bobbysmith8095 Netflix produces a lot of shit 98% of the time. Disney has a ton of things to watch. Yes some of it is old but it's not like you watched an entire series when it aired on TV as a kid. I never watched those Zack & Cody or Star Wars shows, now I can. But sure I watch the marvel shows too because it would be very dumb not to.
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Yes but Disney is trying to sell to the whole world and beat netfilx. It not going to beat them by just having old show on the service. The old show is great for a while but people are gonna want new stuff to keep paying every month. Hence disney have to decide what to show for free and what to show for money. They gotta keep people paying while not losing money. It just how the business work. I know many people won't keep paying if every new movie required more money when you are already paying for the service. People will start canceling after they watch all their favorite show. However, people are OK if most new thing are free with 1-2 item to pay every few month.
yeah its been weird with the Theater market now that there can be a Theater market again just cause so many people are expecting to get things sent to their streaming sites now ;D
Yeah I hate how they're treating Pixar and it's worrying. Raya gets the premium treatment but now 2 Pixar movies sent straight to base D+? I worry that could come with budget cuts and less opportunities.
It was actually 3, onward, soul, and Luca
What?
Luca was in cinemas
Am I living in a lie
@@laurengrace71 Onward got a theatrical run and was not a Disney+ original.
We don’t have to pay extra to watch Luca Don’t complain about that be grateful
well hopefully next year with Turning Red andd Lightyear things will be better
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@@dogenboole
“I don’t want your damn lemons!”
“I’m gonna make a combustible lemon that will burn your house down!”
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”
@Not Your Cup Of Tea why hello, fellow Faller
ALSO to anyone commenting that the film shouldn't be gay cause they're kids; ask yourself if you'd have a problem with it if luca and the girl ended up together...
this is so true! people yell at the lgbt community for pointing out certain characters but then they ship every boy and girl in existence
Exactly! Romantic subplots/impliamce/etc in kids' movies are A-ok until they are LGBTQIA+
Exactly!!!! 👏👏👏
@@shibumi-tanuki Trueee
@@jaydad1227 I'm saying that if people read it with a gay subtext that its weird to respond saying they shouldn't be gay cause they are kids, when you wouldn't react that way if the subtext was a straight romance
I was worried Luca and Guilia would get together and I’m so glad there wasn’t anything romantic. It was just a feel good simple movie with three friends. I liked that and I liked that there weren’t romantic stakes with kids. It was refreshing and nice to just have kids being kids.
I wonder how would you have felt if Alberto and Luca got together?
@@bareq99 I'd assume that could happen in the not so far future since they are canonically just around that age where they start to gain romantic interest
@@muffinpaste bruh luca's like 9 and Alberto 11
@@Mr_Gamer-Random Luca’s 13 and Alberto’s 14 💀 They’re teens. So age only matters if it’s not a straight relationship??
@@muffinpaste Luca acts waaaaaay to young to be fricking 13, I mean Alberto maybe but Luca definitely no
I was actually fairly glad they didn't pursue Luca having a romantic relationship at all. It felt more real that way, he was a kid experiencing intimate friendships with other kids that he hadn't had before.
Yes!! Finally someone that sees it like I do! I personally think it’s better as a friendship kind of movie than anything else.
Yup! Same here! We need to let people be friends.
@Ariana Marie Thats how I see it. I asked my brother and he compleely agreed with me. Im glad that it didnt have him get in a relationship cause he is a kid but I can see them geting together in the futer y'know?
People are so hungry for relationships, every movie I've ever seen has a relationship you can see from a mile away and 7 times out of 10 it takes away from the story cuz you need to have them fall in love, I like the variety
I also noticed that the story was high-key about coming out, if you paid attention to its meaning within the broader culture.
I genuinely loved that there was no romantic relationships explored, but rather hinted at. I watched this movie with my toddler, and it was just about friendship - which is a score for me. If they made a second, and did it as a coming of age/teenage story - I could totally see Luca trying to decide if he liked Alberto or Julia...and I wouldn't be mad at it, I'd probably enjoy it. I saw the characters as younger than that when we watched it. Now seeing people comment about them being 12 or so, I can see the annoyance! I was thinking 8 or 9.
That would be an amazing idea for a sequel! Now I really hope we get it. It would definitely be a ways in the future but that makes it more likely that it could explore lgbtq+ themes.
*giulia
Even with them being 12 it is awfully young to start a relationship (any relationship). But I would love if they made a sequel with boys being older and it was about finding yourself and seeing actual LGBTQ+ representation on screen
I thought they were 9 or 10 and 11!
According to google, Luca is 13
Alberto is 14
And Giulia isn’t stated but im guessing shes 12 or 13 since shes in the same class as luca at the end
@@TomatoAddict Yeah I thought they were around 11/12 too
Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Seamus: “ DONT STEAL LEMONS”
also seamus: steals lemons
@@SeamusGorman4 seamus how could you do this
Me: Horrible message for children watching, Seamus.
@@SeamusGorman4
At least you learned from your mistakes.
@@SeamusGorman4 aw f*ck, i cant believe you've done this
Really enjoyed the film and your review. Great job as always Seamus!
I love your channel and the content.👍
Poggers. Didn't expect you here
I was not expecting to see you on seamus gorman. Wow
appreciate you dude :))
@@SeamusGorman4 nice vid dude
Disney releasing two Pixar movies in a row as streaming exclusives... kinda concerning
Yep the poor employees. I wouldn't feel job secure
Don’t worry Turning Red and Lightyear are going to theaters.
ur pfp...HAMILTON!!!!!!
What was the other movie?
@@NikiHatesYou Soul
respectfully seamus, i think this was one of pixar’s top films. it had the right amount of humour and emotion, and i LOVED it
100% I just wished they made it gay because it was so obvious
@@starsofnarnia I’m glad they didn’t go that way because it wasn’t a love story
@@g.lether7973 i wouldn't call star wars a love story but there are straight relationships in those movies, aren't there
@@ferresmeets1937 fair enough, but i don't really like romantic subplots in general, and star wars, as you mentioned, is no exception. that's what I meant
@@starsofnarnia Can no one of the same gender just have strong affectionate friendships? Does every close friendship have to be interpreted as romantic?
A Disney + original movie just gives me Disney Channel Hannah Montana and Teen Beach Movie vibes.
Luca did not deserve this title at all.
Agreed.
Even the Hannah Montana movie had a theatrical release!
Every new movie they release mentions Disney +
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as a girl who listens to girl in red, i won’t lie i did feel like i was getting baited, but after i sat down and thought about it that was exactly like how i acted with my best female friend as a kid, and it wasn’t until later down the line that we had the realization of “yeah that’s not how most platonic friendships work.” so in my mind, when luca and alberto are like in their early to mid teens when they go through the “waaaait,,,, am i? nooooo, i can’t be….. am i?” and live happily ever after rainbows everywhere
I COMPLETELY agree. So many of their interaction gave me that sort of 'ya we're besties.....or.....' kinda vibe. It would probably NEVER happen with Disney, but a sort of coming of age sequal when they're older would be pretty great
I agree but I think they’re already old enough to start realising they might have crushes on them since they’re ages are supposed to be 13&14
*kinds
@@zeldaharrison2098 they don’t look that old
YEAH. im a non binary bisexual and me too
kinda ironic how luca, soul or hamilton were "free" while horrible movies like mulan or just above average movies like Raya cost you so much extra. I know why but that rly makes mulan and raya even worse
okay Hamilton didn't belong in that list but yeah, thats just Disney placing Pixar for free and its own stuff behind a paywall
Raya was good..
@@bareq99 it was good but also a bit rushed either than that I really liked it
My mum doesn’t like soul (I mean it was a wie bit morbid)
The pixar products are going straight to free and Disney movies go to premier access
As well some marvel products mainly the new marvel movies as the series are free
and i’m mad
Im sad
Disney and Marvel.
and your watching Disney Channel
Won’t people like that better tho ? I’m legit confused
About the queerbaiting, I kind of liked that Luca and Alberto's relationship was platonic. Their relationship is still developing. But it was also the kind of intimate friendship I want to see more, like with the whole "We're gonna live together and have a bunch of fun" and Luca imagining what that might be like. It was cute and I can see them when they're older as being the same friends they are in the movie, or being in a queerplatonic relationship, or a romantic one. I just really loved all the friendship shenanigans.
At the very least I liked that they didn’t try to shoehorn a hetero romantic subplot in, and kept the relationship between all three kids platonic.
Yea, I personally didn't think they were trying to queerbaitz nothing in the movie indicated anything more than a cute friendship to me, people who were sad they didn't get together have only themselves to blame for seeing things that weren't there1
@@ember860 Agreed, the movie is great the way it is with the trio being the adorable friends they are. (Minus Alberto being jealous for a portion of the movie, and even then, the conflict between Luca and Alberto nearing the end was interesting and fixed well.)
Yeah they weren’t queerbaiting- they addressed it before the movie came out and sand that it was a movie about friendship. Very nice relationship that they have!
It didn’t feel like queerbaiting to me, as they’re so young. Plus, it was high-key an allegory for coming out, so I thought it was fantastic.
The rumors I've heard about Disney possibly shutting down Pixar and keeping everything under the Disney umbrella are starting to seem less far-fetched now.
Pixar used to be its own wonderfull studio with a different style of animation and story telling and now its just one of the animation studios
@@matthijsrietveld6051 that's because they found a lame excuse to get rid of John Lasseter, who was the heart and soul of the company; Disney doesn't like independent thinkers. I think that's why they've always struggled to find something to do with the Muppets, and why they canned Steve Whitmire too, the core values that Pixar and the Muppets have had just don't mesh with Disney's pro-money, pro-broad commercial appeal attitude.
@@matthijsrietveld6051 i was thinking this! Like in the beginning you could differentiate between Pixar and Disney animation styles and now it’s all starting to look the same! ://
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 didn't john lasseter have multiple sexual harrasment complaint? I don't think thats a lame excuse.
@@DecemberDaydreams The vast majority were about hugging, which he was known for.
An investigation conducted prior to his hiring [at Skydance Animation in 2019] found that no previous claims of sexual assault, propositioning or harassment had been filed against Lasseter,[44] and "[...] there were no findings of secret settlements by Disney or Lasseter to any parties asking for a settlement."[44]
I really cried painful tears at the end of the movie thinking of Alberto’s life. It just hurt me so much imagining him alone waiting for a father that would never come and then stumbling upon Luca, who he said “got him off the island” which I just find beautiful. Like, Alberto was ready to stay in that tower alone and lost waiting for someone who didn’t really love him but then found someone better at the end. Not just that, but he also found someone who could represent a father figure to him. I just couldn’t stop crying lol Alberto deserves the world tbh
Hmm I felt like the movie was more about friendships and not anything romantic... Like you do feel left out if you're only friend started hanging out with someone else, that was pretty relatable. I didn't think there was any romantic subtext either between Luca and Alberto or Luca and Julia... just platonic friendships.
also alberto would want luca to still stay with him cus his dad left him not cus hes in love but cus he dosent want another person leaving him
I think there’s multiple interpretations but truly I feel like I resonate with this one the most. Alberto has no one so course he would feel threatened and sad if the first person that entered his life was getting along with other people. Also they’re like 12 LMAO
Agreed
Seamus with painted nails is my favourite Pokemon evolution of Seamus.
And speaking of Pokémon, does theirs movie remind me of Pokémon Heroes or is it just me?
Ikr
SAME
I agree
I feel like it is more of a regional form
I understand his frustration with Disney as I am a huge Pixar fan
This video title sums up a lot of Disney’s movies these days.
People are mad that it’s on Disney plus but if it was in theaters people would have said put it on Disney plus
People’s logic makes little sense
I don’t think it’s that serious of an issue it’s still gonna do well and it’s likely just temporary
@@madnessarcade7447 I think they should have put it on both!
Shut up.
@@fantasticfreddie5 What?
What they did with cruella was good. Wanna watch it in the cinema go for it. Wanna watch it at home ok but pay extra.
I disagree with the statement that this doesn't look as great as other Pixar movie. I actually found this art direction and stylisation far more charming than the likes of soul or toy story 4 which are in my eyes the "generic 3D animation movie" aesthetic these days. Also I love how mundane the story was. The characters have realistic goals and it's the bond between the characters that makes the story. Not the journey they take through the world. My only criticism was the beginning that felt a little more generic with the whole "I want to do something but my parents won't let me" trope. But after the first act I thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope Pixar learn a lot from the success of this movie. Soul had many more flaws in my opinion.
Agreed! The style is distinct and beautiful.
I agree with Toy Story 4. It had very impressive detail, (a couple of scenes looked like they were live action to me at first glance) but it lacked warmth and character. Luca had that in abundance.
totally agree with everything you said
yes i loved the art style. too late at night rn for me to find the proper words to describe it, but the characters looked a bit like wooden puppets or something to me idk, not per se like pinocchio although they referenced it, but it was like they were small puppets in a miniature town and they would perform a play while you were looking as an audience, especially what comes to mind is the little sequence of luca and giulia walking across the roofs at night. And the way their mouths would sometimes be really big was a little jarring but in a good and comedic way. I liked that the characters didnt have the classic 3d disney face.
And the little thing that was the see through uncle was fun.
And with all of that still some mixed in beautiful realism.
@@marisophi definitely! I can see where you're coming from. My first impression was it felt very kikis delivery service in terms of tone and mood. Stylistic also similar to Ghibli is ways but had its own spin in places. I loved the aesthetic, especially in the hills and country side
Luca was never about love or relationships anyway. It was really just about the friendships he had with both Alberto and Giulia and how those friendships evolve over the summer. In fact the director himself said that in an interview. the story was based off of Enrico Casarosa's childhood friendships. I personally think that it was good not to have any romance because it shows how important friends are without getting that deep and also because it is a kids movie targeted at six-year old and kids aren't really thinking that far about romance and stuff
the characters were obviously gay... They are daydreaming of riding tandem on Vespas together multiple times. why not day dream having there own vespa each? There were literally 30 other vespas in the dreams...
-Movie cliche of enjoying spending so much time with someone where you lose track of time. vespa is a metaphor for their romantic relationship.
-Luca literally giggles like a teenage school girl in his bed thinking about the time he spent with Alberto and the "Vespa".
-Alberto defends Luca by saying "how great he smells"...
-"Im his friend, I know what he needs."
-Giulia finds out Alberto is a fish (gay) and Luca distances himself from Alberto in front of Giulia denying of who and what he really is a fish (gay). Making Luka accept who he really is. (Cliche in movies where gay people distance themselves from outted person as a defense mechanism)
-Alberto was visibly Jealous Luca was hanging out with Giulia..
-Scene when they are doing each other's hair with snail slime, turn around and give each other an approving smirk and nod. Followed by a panning camera shot from behind where they both put their arms around each other on the beach looking at the romantic, beautiful Italian beach sunset.
-"Alberto stop putting things in your mouth"
-"We need to win the race so we can run away together"
-Its literally a fish out of the water story...
-This is a disney movie, the director has to say its a platonic relationship. I feel like the writer director and producers had a bet to see how gay they can make it while. Still getting it approved by Disney.
@@frankd9945 I see all your points I just find it annoying how every film has to have a romantic subplot, lgbtq or not its nice to see a movie that was nothing more than friends, they could get together later in life but if they had it in the movie it would've come out of nowhere, I like the ending as is
@@theflaminglitten-fo6jd the ending is fine. But the story wasn't a romance it was a coming-of-age/ coming out story. And most of those stories they meet a love interest but they don't ultimately stay together but uses it as a catalyst to grow into the person they're supposed to be.
@@frankd9945 You’re projecting a lot. Either that, or you’ve never been through adolescent male friendships before.
Okay, so- The part about how 'also because it is a kids movie targeted at six-year-old and kids aren't really thinking that far about romance and stuff' is kinda...Yikes-
Have you seen the Disney Princess movies?
Most of them end up being in a romantic relationship with a male character, and those movies were targeted at six-year-olds...?
Is it just 'not okay' for six-year-olds to see LGBTQ+ relationships...?
That's kinda what I'm getting there at that argument-
Day 63 trying and convince Seamus to watch “kids shows” such as Gravity Falls, The Owl House, Amphibia, and DuckTales 2017.
Owl House is sooo good!
Yes gravity falls!💫🌲
@@keenankennedy3485 amphibia is better owl house is a bit overrated but that’s just my opinion
Dude, DuckTales 2017 is the best 👌
@@someguy5926 I like them both, although I do sort of prefer Amphibia because the main characters are all just so compelling and likable! The Owl House has nice characters too, but Luz has always felt kind of generic to me tbh.
I think that Raya was also a movie that felt was supposed to be lesbian and then wasn’t because it is a Disney movie (I totally ship Raya and Namaari)
Tbh I could TOTALLY see them being together
@@HiHello-cw9vc sameeeee
It would be a toxic relationship imo but if there's a sequel then yeah I totally see them going together
It was Namaari’s little hair behind the ear tuck she did when they were talking as kids lmao
I absolutely DESPISED namaari.......... raya deserves better than her.
Personally, this is my most favourite Pixar movie of all time. Pixar just keeps improving every single release. It's such a shame how Disney treats Pixar, everybody in Pixar deserves so much more than that
Friendly reminder: movies (along with all art) are subjective
People will have many different interpretations that often stem from personal experiences and view points
So, people who are LGBTQ+ or have some association to the community are likely too see things from that point of view
Another example of this was when people genuinely interpreted Hermione as black, and it was a lot of people who were black who saw her that way.
People will find ways to identify with fiction, especially if they are a demographic that gets less representation, and there's nothing wrong with that
Personally, I find it interesting to see many different interpretations, and it feel that's the best way to go about it.
Absolutely, Luca just does a phenomenal job at providing characters and situations that are really easy for LGBTQ+ people to relate to. The film never suggests it’s about LGBTQ+ kids, but it fits so well that people can easily interpret it that way.
@@simplyepic3258 to be fair this fits many narratives. The Jewish community ( religion tbh) , lgbtq, racial undertones. I’m glad it’s fully rounded with a baseline of friendship.
As a lesbian I saw the trailer and saw nothing lgbt about it so I am going to have to disagree with you.
@@spirit614 I said "people who are LGBTQ+ or have some association are LIKELY too things from that point of view"
Likely doesn't mean always, or even close to always. It simply means more than note 😌
@@joewinkler8932
Bi person here: I’m gonna guess you are talking about the idea of coming out being the gay allegory and not the two male leads “being together” as the allegory, even then it’s incredibly immature to act like you have the higher opinion and everyone who disagrees is a bad person because now all your credibility is gone.
The creator has confirmed that the two male leads are only friends and are based off of his own friendship in his childhood but that the rest can be interpreted however the audience wants.
It’s not blatantly gay, it’s gay depending on the person watching, please act more mature with these things, you are making the LGBT community look horrible, and especially on pride month too
I'd have prefered it if Luca and Soul were premium access instead of Mulan and Raya
i felt like the whole thing was kind of a metaphor for being… ya know.. *limp wrist*
idk them being able to seem just like everyone else (straight passing) the town trying to _fish out_ [im so sorry] any sea monsters (or reminded me of the lavender scare in america and them being hunted down when they revealed their true selves. all of that combined with just like the vibe of the movie. and i felt like the two elderly women revealing they were sea monsters at the end was very reminiscent of your aunt and her female roommate who have been living in the same one bedroom apartment for 40 year
and they were rOoMaTeS
Alr but in all seriousness that + the queer allegories and subtext makes a pretty gay movie.
“When life gives you lemons: steal them”
-Seamus, probably
I watched Luca last night and I loved it
I finished watching Luca 2 minutes ago illegally online and I liked it
Same, it was amazing
@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 Pirating websites amirite 😎
@@elielinightfever When they're forcing us to pay for streaming service upon streaming service, we have to find a way to watch what we enjoy without being forced to give money to evil corporate entities
Same! My family and I watched it after dinner and really enjoyed it😁
your comment on the animation of this film legitimately hurt me as a longtime fan of animation and this industry. this is one of the best animated films pixar has ever done to me, and no, it’s nothing like dreamworks or illumination. the style is more akin to what sony pictures tries to do with their cgi animation, they made it more cartoonish and that does NOT at all mean weak. it was stylized, unique, the character movements mimicked how 2d animated characters would move a lot of times. the character designs, to me, were a lot more interesting than a lot of pixar’s recent, more realistic stuff. it was absolutely beautiful to look at. i am so bored when animation tries to mimic reality as much as possible when it’s a medium meant to be used for the unrealistic and has endless potential for creativity.
idk, i am personally not a fan of pixar’s fake deep films. they are convoluted and leave a lot of things halfway. this is the first movie of theirs ive loved since coco. AND YES IT WAS ABSOLUTELY GAY ☝🏼
Pixar was a reason why I loved animation. Luckily I’m in college so I can take animation courses but I can’t draw.
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT AND I FINALLY FOUND IT!! I completely agree, when I watched this movie with my family my eyes were glued to the screen just because of how wonderful the animation and character designs and all of that stuff was!! And I also 100% agree with you about the realism thing, seeing every new animated movie try to be hyper-realistic is EXTREMELY annoying to me, I could rant about it for days. I feel like people need to appreciate the work that goes into more cartoonish styles as much as they do realism, because once you dig into it there's so much amazing stuff to find!!
as someone who studies animation, the scene where luca first gets on land and has to learn how to walk, i couldnt help but think how typical that was for animated film (which is probably also one of the reasons why they put it there, as a little wink). I could just imagine the animators trying to think "how would a fish try to walk" and having to act it out and having so much fun.
For some reason i also really appreciated all of the biking animation. There is just something so satisfying about mundane tasks/actions being animated beautifully.
I also thoroughly enjoyed a lot of giulias movements.
I feel the same way about this animation! After watching Spider-Man into the Spider verse, I wanted more of that expressive style. They both also have a stop motion effect that mimicks 2D animation that works really well. Watching this on a 4K TV with HDR was a real treat!
I actually kind of like the style, makes me think of a puppeteering-style movie, especially with the greasy/foggy lens that added to the "retro" italian style
Idk
Yeah, that too! I feel like the underwater world wasn’t too interesting to look at, but that may have been the point because Luca is supposed to be curious about the surface. But the animation was still great, in terms of both style and technology.
@@payton_bagel8317it wasnt much to look at but really pretty, and the sound design under there was great
I actually like the decision not to have a real love interest. I'm not Anti gay or love interest but I like how not every film has a love interest anymore.
I kinda like that they decided on them all being friends instead of romantically interested
Me too
Same
Yes
Same
Luca‘a mom absolutely DESTROYING those kids in that soccer game is hilarious lmao
This movie was so sweet it was an absolute delight, it was honestly kind of nice to have a movie with a simpler plot that you could just. Sorta kick back and relax to! Just a good ol’ time. Just a good time all around - it really deserved a theatrical/cinematic release, but when has disney made any smart decisions recently
(And the gay subtext is honestly just text at this point, even w nothing between Luca and Alberto, the beats of the story are still drenched (heh) in queerness)
👍🏻
Yes it’s TEXT a whole coming out type of things 🏳️🌈💕
Loved this movie. Made me cry. I'm honestly glad no romance was in it. Just a cute group of kids being kids. Really pulled my heart strings
Who else thinks the Ercole kid grows up to become Waluigi?
Yes
@@Odin_Allfather :)
@@IcyDiamond waaaaah
@@Odin_Allfather *Wah*
WAAAAALUIGI!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who feels like Luca should've been longer? Especially at the beginning where they do introduce these two new worlds to us we really don't get a lot of time to explore them. If the film was given say even an extra 15 - 20 mins at the start just properly introduce the setting I think it would've come off as less rushed as it did. As far the...romantic side of things in the film, I'm kind of glad they just stuck with the platonic friendships in the end with the hint that they could turn into something more later on. Because firstly, the characters are kids! Can't be any older than say....10 or 11 I think? Can't remember if their ages were ever mentioned. Kids that young aren't focused on romantic relations with one another, they're far more like Luca - with dreams and wild imaginations. Alberto becoming jealous of Luca spending time with Julia would be a natural reaction for him. Luca is probably the first friend he's made and let's not forget that the kid probably has some kind of separation anxiety because of his dad up and leaving him parentless (do we know what happened to his mum?) for x amount of years before the film starts. I personally really like that they made it a platonic relationship between the three because we really don't see that often with films anymore where there are two male characters and a female character. Eventually one of the guys gets the girl and I'm so tired of that trope.
Anyway, rant over! Lol. I really enjoyed Luca myself, the only film gripe that I have with it was that it just felt a bit too short.
Disney: puts Mulan 2020 for Premier Access for 30 QUID!!! Which also supports LITERAL CONCENTRATION CAMPS
Also Disney: puts masterpiece Soul for free on its service therefore depriving talented artists of their reward
sOUnDs REaLlY FaIr dOeSnT It??!!!!
Seriously tho this is just wrong on so many levels
I agree with the Mulan part and it’s really disappointing. However, if Disney+ started to release movies with Premiere Access, y’all would’ve said that “Disney is greedy”. When HBO Max announced that they were releasing WB movies for free, Disney received a lot of backlash for not doing the same thing.
@@theawesomebat1244 I feel people are mad that they get to see ‘masterpiece soul and Luca’ for free LOL like who cares! Premium just makes you wait longer
Soul was free because it was delayed by 6 months. I don’t see why people want to pay a $30 fee to watch a movie on a subscription based streaming service.
@@stichexsperament6263 ikr. Also Pixar movies are very ‘random’ and aren’t the best tbh though they are high quality. Disney movies in my opinion were much better.
putting aside some of the unfulfilled storylines, I think it was intentionally meant to be simple and charming, because it was such a queer-coded story, but specifically targeted to children and LGBT+ adults who recall this time in their life, in a way other Pixar movies are intentionally ambiguous in who they are targeting (despite being touted as animated children's films - which we all know from experience is a lie and can hit you at any age) - which may have contributed to the strange gap you felt between this and other Pixar films.
The blatant allegory for the experiences of queer youth trying to make their way into the world and not being accepted shone through all the more bc the overall plot was super simple... there were hints here and there of possibly deeper themes, like how Luca and Alberto actually /weren't/ fully accepted by everyone in Porto Rosso, despite it seeming like that.. there are people who scoff and walk away shaking their heads, but it's intentionally focused on the circle of acceptance and happiness to show these kids you shouldn't focus on the people that don't matter, and find the good people that accept you as you are... Massimo being a renowned sea monster hunter (see: homophobe) but being the second after Giulia to accept Luca and Alberto was a very important message to put out there. Not everyone will, but people can change.
I don't particularly mind the lack of explicit mention of gayness or queerness, I don't think it was queer baiting bc the themes were so obvious, and exceptionally relatable, even if you whittled it down to purely just fear of The Other and feeling like an outsider and wanting to be accepted (see: Giulia, a human who connects with Luca and Alberto in this way but for different reasons)...
Really my whole interpretation on the 'that was the gayest thing I've ever seen' thing is I think, while the storyline wasn't meant to revolve around it, Luca definitely had some sort of underlying childhood crush on Alberto. Like one commenter said, it was something like looking back and realizing you had a crush on your friend before you even knew it. In a way, I'm glad that they didn't have any romance because I never really saw Alberto reciprocating the feelings until the end, though by then it wouldn't feel right as it wasn't evolved enough.
But yes. Verrrrry fruity.
The director just confirmed the characters are 100% not gay and never will be. They're just friends.
Mark
The direction confirmed there are no romantic relationships in this movie. Gay people can have friends too you know? You saying the director confirming there are no romantic relationships means that Luca is 100% not gay is like me saying the director confirming there are no relationships means that Luca is 100% not straight. It doesn’t make any sense.
@@-Theo- Woah I just quoted the director. Why are you going off on me. As an LGBTQ person myself I know i know we can have friends. And the director also said the characters in luca are straight in a different interview.
That's interesting because I felt like Alberto was the one who had romantic feelings for Luca.
Alberto began to become paranoid about the idea of Luca becoming closer with someone else (Giulia), as he felt his bond with Luca was special and didn't want to believe that anyone else could share Luca's feelings in the same way as he was. Also his entire goal was for him and Luca to always be together with their Vespa. The idea of offering to run away together and see the world has always been a romantic gesture and it becomes more obvious throughout the movie how Alberto is the one more focused on that goal than Luca.
The movie is told largely from Luca's perspective. It's possible he hasn't grasped the complexities of romantic relationships yet and will later look back on these moments when he's more mature to realise that Alberto may have had deeper feelings that he failed to identify in his naivety- making Alberto's choice to let Luca go so he could live a happier life even more tear-jerking. Maybe if Luca knew that Alberto loved him he would've said something more comforting or chosen to stay?
@@CosyBee I would've loved that story. But the director just had to say all the characters are straight
I’m kinda glad they didn’t go with the obvious idea of making Alberto and Luca gay tbh. That’s the clear metaphor they were going for with the whole “secretly being something everyone hates” idea, but actually having them be that would be too on the nose and probably drive people away. The people who would boycott it after seeing “DISNEY GAY LEADS” headlines are the exact people who need to see it and be taught about expectance through the beauty of this movie.
(For context, I am queer, please don’t take this as homophobia. I just as absolutely starving for queer representation in Disney movies as the next person.)
I kind of agree, watching it my first thought was "this is so gay" almost immediately followed by my second thought which was "but surely they aren't going to do it, because even though the home point of the movie is acceptance no matter how you look at it Luca and Alberto are not human, and if they actually go through with that it'll be saying that gay people aren't human, even if that's not what it's saying that's how lots of people are going to see it no matter what! So please tell me they're not going to do with that"
And since there's no romance between Luca and Alberto or Luca and Julia you can't really say it went either way I can't go? There's no romance in this movie so it's not gay or straight, even though it's a very gay movie!
Not exactly in disagreement, though I wouldn't think their being gay is an obvious idea, given that Disney has never attempted it in an animated movie, with leads, anyway.
@@floraposteschild4184 kind of if it was anyone but Disney it would be obvious
You’re homophobic
@@flask223 no they'd aren't
0:30 "Only two Pixar films have had a character name in the title" Finding Nemo and Finding Dory: are we a joke to you?
I literally just watched this movie and I loved it. The relationship between Luca, Alberto, and Gulia was adorable. And I almost cried at the end. Although, I almost wish I could see Luca and Alberto reunite at the end of the school year, but I understand they couldn't really work that into the movie. Anyways, great movie!
I’m actually fine with Luca going to Disney Plus on its own, since it feels very much like a streaming movie, but that fact that the absolute masterpiece that is Soul also has to go to streaming despite you having to pay $30 for the garbage pile that is the Mulan remake
Day Eleven of asking Seamus to watch Ever After High!
OMG Y E S THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
Yes! I commented this too lolll
Omg yes he should
Please
yes!!
Honestly I’m not too bothered that there was no actual gay stuff because everything about the story just screams “this is a metaphor for closeted LGBTQ+ kids’ struggles”
Well I am very bothered
It's all about the feelings, that subtext of the plot and how we relate, tho I would have loved some more explicit representation, I'm happy with what we can understand from what we have
@@flask223 nobody cares what you think freak, they're children
@@theStridingRebel would you say the same thing if he likes Giulia?
@@CT75674eva yes, because the movie isn't about romance, it's about friendship, the directors even said this. It's based off his own childhood
"This is the gayest film I've ever seen that's not gay." Should've been on the movie posters, man.
Tbh that was the impression I got off the online discourse around the trailer at the time.
The director confirmed that the story is about platonic friendship inspired by his own childhood. Its not a romantic love story. Gay or otherwise.
Yeah I can see how Disney ruined it: “they put an advertisement in it.” Yeah I know, I keep putting those comments a lot, but: Luca is great.
Yea it's my favorite movie now
Just another day to ask Seamus to review the only worthy Disney remake, that time they took a mediocre movie from the 40s and rebooted it with an awesome TV show, full of action, adventure, hidden depts and only the best fanservice... And then Disney killed it with lack of marketing, cancelling it after only one 13-episode season.
I'm talking of course of Legend of the Three Caballeros.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but seconded.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 You haven't heard of "Legend of the Three Caballeros"? It's an awesome Donald Duck cartoon as good as Ducktales, but it was cancelled in 2017, possibly to make way for the Ducktales reboot. Check it out, it's really underrated.
I think it's on Disney+.
No idea what your talking about but I’m somehow a fan already
@@zero-two487 Well, check it out if you like Ducktales or Darkwing Duck. It's worth the try.
Oh I love that show!!! I haven’t seen much yet but oh my god
Day 2 of asking Seamus to react to Tangled the Series
I love Tangled the series though I have only watched the first season
@@karaa6357 my other comment was about ever after high loll, different show
@@karaa6357 the day 1 was posted on his last video
@@karaa6357 The other one was about ever after high-
I need him to review TTS!!
When I first saw the trailer for this movie, it gave me Studio Ghibli vibes. It was something about the composition of the landscape and cityscape shots. I watched this movie earlier today, and the first thing I said after it ended was that it felt like a Studio Ghibli film. It has the same vibe as Kiki's Delivery Service or Whisper of the Heart, where it's just about kids living their lives in a small town and growing up along the way. Anyway, I really enjoyed it and hate that it didn't receive a theatrical release.
Definitely
Luca aired in cinemas in countries where Disney+ is not available (including the Middle East), it was the first movie I watched in cinema since 2019 and it was an amazing experience
Fact: Everybody who is getting Disney+ right now is probably getting it for Loki.
And even if they are only getting Disney+ for Pixar, Monsters at Work is coming out in a couple of weeks anyway.
There is literally NO reason to waste Luca from theaters as a marketing gimmick for a Streaming Service the entire audience is going to already have.
Actually I have this strange feeling that theaters rejected Luca because it had a gay storyline in a kids film. Again, just a theory, dont take my word for it. Dear god dont it's probably wrong.
@@andrewpalmer8116 Nah, Disney probably said no to theaters because it was gay. Most theaters in my area have movies that are gay.
@@andrewpalmer8116 I'm pretty sure that most theaters will play whatever the distributors give them if they have enough screens and something hotter isn't already playing.
@@andrewpalmer8116 I didn't really have one though. Not explicitly anyway. People interpret it as such, but it wasn't an actual storyline.
These characters are soooo young! Do they really need to be coupling up? As a kid, I definitely had crushes, and definitely got jealous (like Alberto) and I was definitely bi. MM/FF isn't the only way to write queer stories. I saw a lot of my experiences as a queer person reflected in this film, and it was beautiful.
I'm personally more mad that the directors specifically said it wasn't gay in any way when there were SOOO many queer allegories
@@themiddleones11 Exactly this. The director could have stayed silent and leave it all to interpretation, but now all the homophobes keep saying we try to ruin everything and that tHeY arE nOt GaY
@@themiddleones11 Literally the ending message, "some people will never accept you, but some others will", is the gayest thing I've ever heard. There's no way this movie isn't aimed at a gay audience.
@@themiddleones11 I think they said that because I think it was inspired by their childhood so I understand why they don’t like people comparing their platonic friendships to a romance story.
@@darksev.6468 That was exactly my thought! It feels like a parallel to a coming out story. When Alberto “comes out” as a sea monster, Luca isn’t ready so he acts like he isn’t one. This is like one side of a secret gay relationship coming out and the other not wanting to. Then, when he decides to face the rain and save Alberto, even if it means revealing himself, is definitely his “coming out” moment. Then, when Giulia’s dad stands in front of the crowd, who are all saying how disgusted they are, and he says “I know what they are. They are Alberto and Luca.” This was basically like saying “Gay rights are human rights.” And of course the straightforward “Some will never accept him, but others will” is not even subtle at all.
I kind of…like it this way, though? It’s like a gay allegory. You can get want you want out of it. It’s left up to interpretation, which is my favorite kind of storytelling.
I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't see the "queerbaiting". They're friends and while I see the potential, "chemistry" does not equal "queerbaiting". But I 100% agree about the storylines that are added and then just dropped. I couldn't figure out what the message was because every message was dropped at the last second.
Edit: The line/excuse about them being children was a mistake. I was more implying that it was based on a real friendship the director had but that wasn't made clear at all (I even once considered at 13 if I was gay so yes, I know gay kids exist.)
oh really? I've seen the video essays, so ya wrong
I'm really really bored of the 'they're children!' excuse. You know there are gay kids, right? I came out when I was 13 and then got berated online for it, because I was a bad influence on kids (at age 13.... Right).
Idk if I would consider this film queer baiting, probably more a missed opportunity than anything else, but Disney is clearly willing to implement actual queerbaiting in their other films (the amount of 'Disney's first gay character!' articles I've seen is proof enough). Therefore, I feel fairly justified in being irritated with their utter lack of queer rep, especially in films where it was either promised or evidently hinted towards pre release.
If you're going to complain about the gays at least get it right nobody said it was queerbaiting but queer coding thank you
@@abbystafford7549 the children excuse is so bad, honestly! Nobody complains about straight children being romantically involved in film, it’s just a double standard.
And yeah, if you want to see a really good piece of LGBT media, I HIGHLY recommend The Owl House, it’s on Disney Channel and the creator is bi! Also, there’s a lesbian relationship developing in the show :)
Exactly this! Also yes The Owl House has fantastic Bi and Lesbian rep! A great sapphic relationship for kids! 💜
This is off topic but I never realized how easily entertained viewers of Seamus’s videos are. Like, if Seamus mentions vlog or table we are immediately satisfied and feel a need to watch the rest of the video…..
Don't call me out, just shut up and be entertained
i feel incredibly called out by this statement
Dude… the feels when Luca betrayed Alberto… shit was saaaad
that scene hit differently ngl
I absolutely looove this movie. As I was watching this, I was totally convinced that I must be crazy for thinking that they’re gay, but honestly I think they are. And if you think about it like that, this is an emotionally heavy and tormenting movie. Like the scene where the bully punches Alberto for “not belonging” is heart wrenching when you think about it in that light. This movie is something I’ll be thinking about in a way that I’ve never thought of other Pixar movies. I’ve never felt anything about other Disney movies (except finding dory) but this movie really makes me feel and I love it for that.
It was fun,not too big not too small,it also came out as an indie film like ratatouille with the heart of coco
You mean felt like an indie film?
I don’t think you know what indie means
@@spinhozag.3972 yeah
@@weasel4674 yes I do,it’s just life
@@Mirrorcomics24 Luca isn’t an indie lmao
I completely disagree with the animation style thing, I’m tired of hyper realism texturing and Disney princess face I’m glad we got something different
Honestly I don’t understand why people expect consistency in art style and writing for a studio, a thing being made by the same studio as a different thing only means that they’re both produced by the same company, you should expect consistency in quality yes but let the people working there have fun and experiment with new ideas.
We’re never gonna get another spider-verse if people go “oh it doesn’t look like Soul :/“ whenever someone tries a new animation style, that’s completely ok as an opinion but not as criticism
It’s not about consistency, it’s about taste. If he didn’t like it, he didn’t like it. Simple.
@@justanormalinvestigator2640 Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying tho, that it's not actually criticism, just his opinion
@@victorthecollector9198 criticism is based on opinions dude, if I criticize a movie for having bad or unlikable characters then that's what I think, he never said that his opinion was set in stone that everybody should go along with it, it's just what he personally thinks.
@@Treeeee2008 1. the expression of disapproval of someone or something based on perceived faults or mistakes. 2. the analysis and judgment of the merits and faults of a literary or artistic work. That’s what criticism means, it can be based on personal opinion but said opinion has to be backed up by evidence or else it’s just an opinion, not a criticism.
Besides, I didn’t say he couldn’t give his opinions, I simply stated that I disagree with him, and that he shouldn’t frame his opinions as if they were valid criticism instead of just personal preference.
Seamus painted his nails, white with a few red. I think it’s cool lol, something new.
I really like the message in this movie that it's okay to be different. They executed this message in a different way too. I liked how it was said that yes, luca is different, but he will learn that some people will like him and some people won't. And that's how life works. He was accepted by some pretty quickly even though there were some that were less sure. Luca was able to just be who he is and accept others' opinions of him
I'm really happy Poland brought Luca to cinemas and could watch it in full experience! Wonderful movie!
It is a genuine story of male friendship and I hate this idea that men can't be soft and loving with each other without being gay. Like people want to talk about toxic masculinity you get that when men have to be hyper straight at all times so they aren't seen as gay. Let boys be friends with other boys without going no kiss.
THIS.
For real, tho, “Luca” was absolutely amazing!
Also, my knowledge, it was the first Pixar film to feature a steam locomotive (and if i have anything to do with it, it won’t be the last).
i absolutely loved luca. i understand not everyone will agree, but honestly it was just the film i needed at this point in my life and so for me it was just incredible.
The fact that Raya got the spotlight w/cinema release and premier access. And both Pixar movies were just handed out: 🤡
At the end with the view from the train with the clouds (With the fin.) I really thought there was gonna be a rainbow. Disney definitely edited that out.
I just watched the movie and it is SO GOOD!
I’ve experienced many of the same situations of friendships that Alberto felt. I’ve felt lonely, I’ve felt scared that I’m losing a friend. I’ve felt like a waste of time, I’ve felt like no one wants me around because I get distracted, and I want to do my own thing, and it takes me forever to do anything.
I saw myself in Luca with feeling like I can’t do it. I’m not confident. I have self destroying thoughts. I have imagination. I want to follow my dreams and I just hope people accept me even though it sounds crazy.
The animation is so cute and stylized. I’ve never seen one like it. I love it very much.
It was the best balance of emotional and happy moments. I felt like I knew what they were thinking because all of the characters I could put myself in and I knew what they were thinking because I’d been there too.
I mean in not a sea creature but I wouldn’t be mad.
Also if anyone is wondering I have adopted Luca. I call dibs. If you kidnap him I will have to call the police.
Also if I ever get my own pet I will name him Luca. It’s such a cute name!!
Such a wholesome movie 💗
The only thing I have to say about Luca is that it is DEFINITELY queer, even if the director says it isn't. And the reason that is, is that if you have to tell someone how to enjoy a piece of media then you have failed as an artist.
I can't play you a song I wrote and say "that was sad. You were supposed to feel sad listening to this." Thats not how art works.
So nomatter what the director says, it doesn't change the fact that this movie has like 50 references to being gay, from the shame of Luca saying "I'm a good kid" in the beginning, to his parents trying to send him away, to Luca's grandma saying that some people won't except him. Its a queer movie and it was very obviously made to be. The director just doesn't like it.
SEAMUS SIR YOU NAILS THEY LOOK GREAT
YES
Wait am i the only one who didn’t know that Seamus had a red wall 😳
I don’t think it’s been in frame before to my knowledge.
Huh, well I'm one of those guys you mentioned in the Soul video. I didn't love it. I don't think it's bad, I recognize how well is made, but I don't share the hype and respect people have for it. What you saw as the genius of not answering those big questions about life and death, I saw a failed attempt at being deep. Meanwhile I really connected emotionally with Luca, and found it visually more interesting than Soul
the earlier versions of the movie storyboard had luca have a crush on Giulia, like 'straight'-up love at first sight..
and it was a trio of boys and at some point during storyboarding, Alfredo was supposed to turn into a giant monster
they made it more gay than it was
yeah i really liked how they handled it, but i feel like a sequal or a spin off series where they explore the relationship between luca and alberto could be pretty cool
Guys, you can probably find a way to watch this illegally online if you don't wanna give more cash to Disney.
If they're gonna force us to pay for 20 streaming service subscriptions, they're gonna get what we deserve. Watch this stuff online, they can't stop all of us
I actually don’t want them to make a sequel I’m kinda afraid it
The only reason i want them not too is because if Gulia and luca end up together instead of Luca and alberto I will actually sue
I was so excited when Luca was coming out in theaters, I was excited to go out and see it with my friends. Then they changed it to being a Disney plus original I was so upset, the movie looked so pretty and just imagine how cool it would’ve looked on the big screens.
I would have gladly paid extra to see Luca early as it was a great, feel good film that has made its way upon my favorite films list. It gives me huge being a child in the summer and learning about the world and relationships work. I would definitely recommend this if you want a simple, happy film to watch to de-stress
Day 12 of asking Seamus to review Twisted: The Untold Story of a Royal Vizier, The Guy who didn’t like Musicals, Black Friday, and any other Starkid musicals he considers watching.
Twisted is one of my favorite musicals! I like it better than some actual Broadway musicals!
@@babyboybensolo632 Yeah, that’s honestly fair.
It’s not gay, it’s supposed to be about kids. The creator said specifically it’s about *friendship*. I’m gay too and even I can see that because I’m not toxic
Yeah I don’t mind gay people. I just don’t like when people ASSUME people are gay because they’re affectionate with their friends. I see girls act like Luca and Alberto and consider themselves straight. My husband and his best friend are also huggy and touchy and neither of them are gay
@@HalE14 IKR. Too many people see affection and instantly think “they are in love” when it’s obvious they are not
Movies are up to interpretation. I see it as gay.
Actually! Alot of people don’t really see it as a gay… kind of, they relate to it when they were younger and didn’t know about their sexuality yet. Or that’s just my perspective from reading the comments and watching videos
@@wolfkitty42 stfu
“They can’t be gay their too young”
IM THEIR AGE AND IM GÆ
yeah
and if they were straight would people say "they're too young to be straight"? don't think so
@@ventingmachine101 e x a c t l y
rt, i started loving a classmate when i was eleven... what a good times lol
The films makers said they are not gay just good friends like brothers
I honestly think that I’m one of like 5 people in this world that actually liked Luca as a character more than Alberto. Like yes, Luca shouldn’t have screamed “Sea Monster!!” at his bro, but like Alberto shouldn’t have been blatantly disregarding and blatantly attempting to prevent Luca’s dream of going to school from coming true. Tbh, most people seem to empathize with Alberto more, but I empathize with Luca in that scene more.
Yesss!!! Finally someone that understands me!!!
I'm honestly glad that Luca is so light-hearted. I tried watching Onward but once I realized it was about two kids wanting more time with their deceased dad, I had to turn it off. My dad died very suddenly not even a month before that movie came out and it was just. WAY too soon. I also haven't seen Soul because I'm still not really ready to tackled stuff involving death or the afterlife or any of that. So yeah, Luca being a bit lighter in tone is a breath of fresh air for me.
I'd also argue that Luca does tug at the heartstrings, just maybe not quite as intensely as other Pixar films. The scene where Alberto outs himself and Luca acts horrified instead of supportive was. . . Rough. And the scene where Alberto revealed that his dad basically abandoned him, while kinda rushed and not really set up that well, definitely made my chest ache.
Day 1 of asking Seamus to react to ever after high lolll
YES
I’m literally watching it right now…so I’ll come back when I’m done 😂
Edit: the movie was super good and YASSS WE LOVE TO SEE VLOG CONTENT!!!
I would get mad at Seamus for saying "Pixar's worst film since Cars 3" but to be honest, this only reveals that he's been a closeted Cars 3 fan all this time.
I remember watching this with a friend and we kinda talked about the LGBTQ+ relation with the movie for a bit and had a few moments where we both were like, “That was pretty gay.” And in that last scene, my friend said, “That was very gay, wait, am I allowed to say that?” and I just said, “Yeah, I think so. Luca and Alberto’s entire relationship felt very gay.” And I still don’t know whether or not to take the movie as Queerbating, probably not since I didn’t see any hinting or mention of the film possibly being gay. But overall, I still definitely have to ship the two.
i haven’t seen it but i’m guessing that disney ruined it by making it straight
There's actually no love story in this 😝
It is an Allegory for being gay though.
@@MilieNopeNotHere I mean, I definitely got some gay vibes between them.
@@Lokear I legit thought I was the only one who thought this
Making the characters straight? (sorry i don't really speak english well)