i was curious, how long did it take to receive the car? i ordered mine 2 weeks ago, got confirmation that it was shipped but still waiting for its arrival.
I ordered men on eBay, it came staring from California, took around a week like usual. Did you order yours from some Chinese site or a seller in china?
As an electrical engineer, let me say that you got lucky that you didn't fry your ESC. While the motor & servo can handle the extra voltage with no major issues, I'm pretty sure the ESC has internal voltage regulators to drop the internal voltage from 7.4V to 5V for some IC chips and most likely a 7.4V to 3V for the programmable microcontroller chipset. While a lot of these regulators can handle a wide input voltage, not all do. I definitely wouldn't go over 12V input, that would be a real gamble lol, specially for the 3.3V regulator.
That 3s definitely gives it more power, isnt 3s too much voltage for it? I read that if you go 3s that you have to use a buck converter or it will burn out the engine. How much run time did you get the with the 3s?
I'm curious about this myself. I have some metal gear diffs from Remo on the way, so it should be able to handle 3s as far as the drive train goes.....the electronics on the other hand, I'm not too sure.
So far no problems from anything with the 3S lips. I normally don't run over 5 min with the 3S, but in reality that is a small 3S 1000 math pack with low discharge rating. I touched the motor and esc, both were not extremely hot.
so in reality this battery is only good for short sprints? its not recommended to run it out till it dies? i want to upgrade the battery, i was thinking 2200mah 25c 2s lipo.
if your using a 2S then its no different than the stock battery in terms of voltage that is. That would not be a speed upgrade, runtime only perhaps. Did you mean you wanted to use a 3S maybe?
Yes, I used an 11.1 3S lips in this video. So it was fine. Ofcourse I don't recommend really bashing it hard with the larger voltage pack and don't go above 30C discharge rating or 2500 MAHH.
As long as its a 2S thats fine. But in reality running anything larger than a 2S lipo is a trial and error thing. I stick to tighter high discharge (c Rating) 2S packs or low C rating 3S packs.
IF the C rating (peak discharge/Continuous discharge) of the battery is more than the peak/continuous current flow that the ESC can handle, they YES!!! there is such a thing as to high of a C rating. The ESC should have a higher AMP rating than the discharge on a battery.
My WLtoys 12428 stopped work afer I connect 3s battery. Didn't even strart driving it. No smoke, no burn just no reaction on throttel trigger, sterring servo works fine.
it is difficult to say for sure, it was stock battery which come with Chinese 250 quadcopter. it is very weak for quad I believe that discharge rate should be low. I tired to disassemble electronic board but inside of the box all in glue. I wasn't able to reach the board yet.
yes, I tried stock battery, without luck. I tried to run motor from outside energy source it works. I hope that new electronic block solve the problem.
ok, only one issue I can see you having with changing the Electronic Speed Controller. This model has the ESC built in with the receiver for the radio. If you change it you will need a different radio system and servo (wires won't fit)
dude, I'm about to make a video on how I think this is the only one of these worth getting. IT's so versatile and fast, I never striped any gears either. Mine ran fine with a 3S too. Did yo know these have real deadlock wheels too, you'll never have to glue any tires!!! This in my opinion is the best 65-80 dollar RC you can get.
@@philthyco1 Yes, I think they were friction shocks in the first versions but they upgraded to oil-fillable. Kevin Talbot mentioned he wanted to fill them. Good to see it runs on 3S, too. I have an HSP Flying Fish. Also runs on 3S brushed, now, after a short conversion to a too heavy brushless system. And there are upgrade brushed motors rated for 13V on the chinese market, too. So, no real need to worry about anything. The 10428 seems a bit nicer, though. But different price class of course.
i researched alot as well and ended up getting the next model up of this rc for my very first rc,the 10428 1/10th scale,im still waiting for it in the mail so i cant tell you my "user: thoughts on it yet however after watching several vids on it i already want to oreder a better longer lasting battery for it,however i dont want to burn the motor out on the thing so i got to be carefull what aftermarket battery i get. but anyways i paid 155$ usd after a first time buyer coupon i got from bangood
Hi was this just the 1 run or is the 3s your go to battery every time? As in damage over time or is urs still good? Asking cos just got 1 and lkve upgrading too 😀
hey man, I don't always run a 3S in this, but I have done it multiple times so far, and have had no issues at all. Keep in mind the 3S I am using is a small capacity pack with a low discharge "C" rating. I don't recommend going over 30C for this model.
@@hybrid32494 have you only run yours on the street 3s? my rear diff died running 3s offroad after 3 runs, i think any resistance when running 3s causes the plastic diff gears to break, the metal replacements are dirt cheap though, i think banggood has the whole metal diff kit for around $16, worth it if you want to use a decent 3s battery.
Diff eating basket case. The moment they quit scamming us and build quality replacement part I will be buying one. Until they stop marketing and build quality like the ole days I just have to watch the money flyout of your wallet from the side line. After you spend said money on a 65 dollar buggy you'll find you could have bought an Arrma
anyone running the 12428 needs to go ahead and pull the motor and mount out and check the 2 panhead screws that fasten the motor to the blue mount as mine were super loose, I just happens to get lucky enough to notice during a heatsink cooling fan upgrade install. having problems with the 540 motor magnetic field causing the little cooling fan to not spin properly. I have 2 types a single and a dual the dual is slightly elevated on the heatsink giving just enough distance from magnets but the single sits rite on the motor, it's set up like the castle heatsink fan with a shroud like design. I'm sure that 1 would experience the same problem. Idk maybe these single types are more ment for brushless motors as there magnets might not be as strong. idk! anyway locktight on the mount screws and check them asap! vape on!
Wasn't sure flipping it would help but it actually did as exactly 180° on the other side there's a big spot with no magnetic field just enough in the right spot to run the fans motor at the rite rpm and still allowing the fan to sit straight
i don't know about u...but my stock gears are made out of nylon. tried a 3s lipo battery, it killed it in matter of minutes. overall its a great fast buggy, but its not built to last, unless your wiling to upgrade it.
sorry to hear that happened to you. What 3s LIPO did you try, I only used a small 3S lipo with a low discharge rating. And btw they all have stock plastic gears.
I have tried a 3S LIPO battery but when I plug it the diode of the motor exploed... It works but I a bit surprised. Does somone now somthing about it ?
using same gears ,motor and esc that goes good with 2s will always be more power with 3s and have higher top end... as long as the motor and esc can handle 3s...if not esc will usually fail first or just shut down if amp draw is to much... this car is plenty fast on 3s...i would try to fit a 2200 3s in it if possible... even more power if you use same quality and c rated battery... less chance of puffing batteries and longer run times...
hey buddy! Thanks for watching. This particular model uses a combination RX/ESC, you cannot alter almost anything about the drivetrain either, it's what you see. Without going full brushless this is the only variable when it comes to speed in this car, the BATTERY.
The basic rule for longer run times is a larger capacity battery. That means you need more MAH capacity. The stock battery is 1500 mah, you can shop for a 2000 or 2500 mah battery, that would increase run time but your overall speed would remain the same. As long as you get a 7.4 Volt 2 cell limo with larger MAH rating. Does that help you?
i’m into airsoft and just now getting into rc cars i have a 8.4 volt battery from my hk416 airsoft aeg (meant to shoot full auto 450 feet per second) what if i put that battery in a 12428?would i fry it?
Hey buddy. You should be fine, it seems the 10428 and 12428 have the same running gear setup. Anytime you are unsure just take it slow for a few min and ull have a good idea of whether its too much juice.
hello, the original battery in this was a LI-ION, a LI-PO is almost the same thing, just a different shape. You can safetly run and 7.4V pack in this. I have even run a small capacity 3S 11.1 pack, with no issues.
this ESC has a lipo cut-off you don't need to really monitor it. I do check with a cell-checker for voltage though. But it's not necessary to do so, I only do it for my own info.
Hey! I know this video is 2 years old but I wanted to ask you a question.... If i put 2s 25c Li-Po 1500mAH into it, will it fry the esc/motor? And i have the SCT version basically same design but with different body.... Thanks in advance
hey buddy!!, thanks for watching!! You can run any 2S in this, it will be fine. I've even ran a small capacity 3S, and it was fine too. You can run a larger capacity 2S in this with no issues too.
@@hybrid32494 Wow, I'm surprised that you reply to my comment... what If I run s2 on 60c.. and what is C even stand for? ( I'm new to this hobby so I dont really know stuff that much)
I try to reply to everyone on here, no matter what, you know, I appreciate the views and interest. The way batteries are rated today is with "C" rating, which stands for "discharge rate". Basically the higher the C rating the more juice (amps) the battery can deliver to the ESC and the esc will deliver to the motor. Generally this will result in more punch off the line and a little higher speeds. As you get a higher rated "C" lipo they also cost more. In general I stick to 30-40C, they are cheap and good enough. The included lipos are usually around 20-25 C rated btw.
hello, Yes I soldered on different connectors. I use DEANS style plugs. If you're starting out in this hobby try to learn how to solder connectors, you'll save yourself a whole lot of headaches in the future. It's easy. Buy any cheap deans style connectors, heatshrink tubing, solder, a soldering guy, and you're good.
After running the 3S lipo multiple times I have not broken anything. Although I run a pretty low discharge 20-30C 1000 MAHH pack. Overall if the esc was not built to handle the higher voltage it would just not activate itself. You can check for urself on any 2S powered ESC system, a 3S won't work unless the ESC itself has the ability to handle the voltage. Hopefully thermal protection will turn on if needed.
You can get any LIPO battery with larger capacity. Meaning more MAH rating. If you have the original 1500 battery then try doing for 2000 or so. But measure and read descriptions accurately to make sure if will still fit.
hey man!! I've ran a 3S which is 11.1V, so should be fine. Worst case scenario is it prob won't activate the ESC if it's somehow not-compatible. I highly doubt it would cause any damage. let me know.
guess what?? I'm with her now! She says HI! Her fav RC is the Slash btw. This was filmed pre GO PRO days for me. Notice the shaking and terrible audio.
hybrid32494 i’m glad you’re still with her tell her I said hello and I didn’t notice the shaking and bad audio it was OK better then some TV shows and movies where they shake the camera for a dramatic affect which only pisses me off and takes me out of the show I like her nail polish lol
hey buddy!!! have you tried tis lipo on an other cars you have? just to eliminate it being a bad lipo to begin with. mine has no issue with a 3S and operated just fine. Try to stick it in there when it's not fully charged, and see what happens.
3s on a brushed moter with plastic cogs and spurs its going to break and you said it came with a lipo( lithium polymer ) batt but it comes with a lion(lithium ion) batt
Yes, you are right, it did come with a LI-ON battery. That was a mistake, But in reality it does not matter because both battery types still can use the same LIPO charger and have the same balance plugs and basically work just like any LIPO battery, I usually don't differentiate between the two since they are much alike (other than shape).
@@hybrid32494 the stock esc isn’t designed for lipo batteries. It won’t stop sucking battery at certain level of discharge as it should be. As a result, lipo battery lifespan will go down dramatically.
@@LifeInVietnam2013 hey buddy! These cars come stock with a LI-ION battery, these contain the same type of charge protocols and voltages as a 2S lipo. I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. These come with Li-ION from the factory.
what do you mean, If I recommended it? I just demonstrated that this RC will operate significantly faster with a 3S. The size of the battery is up to you, depending on what fits. That was the battery I use on my Traxxas mini e-revo VXL and is very cheap overall.
hi great vid, i used a 3s lip battery with this rc car and i dont know much about batterys but it seems to have puffed up a little bit and i dont know why :( its a 1500mah at 11.1V and 40C please help what should i do
hey buddy! You could run any 2S lipo in this thing, it will come down to you being able to correctly fit it in the chassis. To fit a 4200 max pack you would need to get highly creative, for sure remove the rear wheel and possibly parts of the roll cage. But the system will handle it, no problem.
im not sure if all WL Toys Rc models can handle a 3S, but this model can. Which model are you referring to? General rules are that if the model runs a 540 size or higher motor than you can usually run a 3S because the ESC is rated for more amps and voltage. The smaller scale RC models generally do not run 3S packs. You can always try putting one in and trying it out slowly, If it has a built in voltage limit then it will just not operate with a 3S pack.
Lance Bucao Thats a 1/18 scale vehicle with a small motor and a non- powerfull esc. U can try to plug in a 3s. But chances r it will not operate. Online listing do not say if a 3s is usable, so u gotta try urself. Let me know
when you say hot do you mean mildly hot or so hot that you cannot touch it and there was a smell? its fine if its warm you should be able to place your finger on it for 2-3 seconds in normal heat range.
Ah Okey i could take there for 3-2 seconds but not to long because then it would hurt my Finger. I didnt smell i think a little bit maybe Im not sure tho
There are two ratings on a LIPO battery, a continuous discharge rating and a peak discharge rating. This particular lipo I was using has around 25C continuous and 40C peak discharge. More expensive batteries could get to 100C peak and 50C continuous. I try to stay not more than 30C continuous to make sure my ESC/s do not get fried. Does that answer your question?
I just looked up the FY-10, it looks totally different from this model. IT says it has a 390 size motor, not a 540 like this RC in my video. Chances are the ESC/RX unit is also different in that case. Also says it's top speed in only 30 KPH.
honestly, I don't know. I don't think any info on max current exists on this ESC. I would say that above 30C there is no need anyway. You won't notice much of a difference, you're better off running a smaller 3S lipo for more speed than a high discharge 2S lipo.
Yes I know it's a 2 year old comment. But just in case someone is trying to research about this car and battery configurations, a 4s lipo will kill the ESC or the brushed motor or both. It can hardly handle a 3s, you might be able to get a few runs out of a 3s lipo before the ESC gets fried, or burns up the motor. In order to successfully and reliably use a 3s or 4s lipo in this car you'll need to upgrade the ESC and the motor (go with a brushless system).
I'm sorry I don't have a link to this exact battery I used. The battery itself was purchased around 6 years ago at this point. Just look for any 3S lipo that will fit the dimensions of the battery compartment and try to stay under a 30C discharge.
if I understand what you are saying, The original battery that this comes with is a 2S Li-ion rated at 7.2 Volts. The 3S as you saw here was my own battery from another model.
hey buddy! I will say that it DOES RUN on 3S. But keep in mind I only did a few speed runs. I didn't bash it the whole time. But the answer is yes, it will run on a small 3S pack just fine.
yes, I ran a 3S many times. Its fine. Just check your motor temp if you can and try to not run the whole pack to empty. I usually only run a 3S pack for 5-7 minutes to prevent extra abuse on the ESC and motor.
hybrid32494. Man I think the mother board is fried along with servo my son charged while connected and I see melted plastic around wires.plus the on off button does not work text me I will send pic 6162849725
hybrid32494. Yrs steering work and if I hit reverse its got be the mother board I can see melted plasticity wanna up grade to a brushless but think I would have to Chang remotes what do you think
so your reverse works? If thats the case the ESC seems ok, maybe it needs to be programmed somehow again. Either way the easiest thing to do if you want an upgrade would be to buy a complete brushless system. Since the rc uses a 2 in 1 receiver and ESC combo you would also need a new remote system. Its probably still cheaper to just buy a whole new one of these, and keep the other for spares.
hybrid32494. Man thanks for the help my kids like to tinker so its kinda a way to spend time with them i ordered a new motherboard i don't have a ton of extra money rite now for brushless system my boys birthday is around the corner so the upgraded system will be great present thanks
you can use any battery that has more than 1500 MAHH capacity. Basically the more Mahi-Mahi rating the longer the run time you will have. Does that help you out?
You're totally correct, speed isn't everything for this RC. It handles like crap anyway, lol. But still surprised to see it hold up with a small 3S lipo in it.
hello buddy!! Do you mean you need a new remote and charger? The remote is paired to the ESC, since it's a 2 in 1 unit. You can consider upgrading the entire system to run a separate ESC and receiver, or just buy a whole new one if you're not able to do.that. Any charger can be used to charge the lipo battery, as long as the connector fits.
you lost your remote??? the problem is this RC uses a 2 in 1 design ESC and receiver unit. I am not sure if another similar 2.4GHZ remote would pair with the receiver in the car. Generally you have to bind them in higher lever models, not sure if this is the case here.
Hello, yes, you are correct. I misspoke. Thank you for that clarification. This is an old video and I no longer run electrics of any kind. I have switched mostly to gas and Nitro and life has been fantastic since. Thanks again.
hey dude! So you're telling me you have the same one and its faster? How is that possible? I'm already running on a 3S lipo here, this is already the limit for this drivetrain.
@@gellona90 this video it is running stock on a 3s....Also, li-ion and li-polys are the same thing in a different package. The full name of a LiPo is Lithium Ion Polymer.
Very nice runs👍
i was curious, how long did it take to receive the car? i ordered mine 2 weeks ago, got confirmation that it was shipped but still waiting for its arrival.
I ordered men on eBay, it came staring from California, took around a week like usual. Did you order yours from some Chinese site or a seller in china?
gearbest from a china warehouse
hybrid32494
3s mean 11.1 volt ?? or what ??
yes, a 3S (3 cell) lips is 11.1 Volts. A 2S (2 cell) is 7.4 volts. Although they charge to higher voltages or 12.6 and 8.4.
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As an electrical engineer, let me say that you got lucky that you didn't fry your ESC. While the motor & servo can handle the extra voltage with no major issues, I'm pretty sure the ESC has internal voltage regulators to drop the internal voltage from 7.4V to 5V for some IC chips and most likely a 7.4V to 3V for the programmable microcontroller chipset. While a lot of these regulators can handle a wide input voltage, not all do. I definitely wouldn't go over 12V input, that would be a real gamble lol, specially for the 3.3V regulator.
exactly unless esc is rated for running eS
Yup
Esc will be fine!😉
That 3s definitely gives it more power, isnt 3s too much voltage for it? I read that if you go 3s that you have to use a buck converter or it will burn out the engine. How much run time did you get the with the 3s?
I'm curious about this myself. I have some metal gear diffs from Remo on the way, so it should be able to handle 3s as far as the drive train goes.....the electronics on the other hand, I'm not too sure.
So far no problems from anything with the 3S lips. I normally don't run over 5 min with the 3S, but in reality that is a small 3S 1000 math pack with low discharge rating. I touched the motor and esc, both were not extremely hot.
so far no issues with the drivetrain really, even after two packs of the 3S runs.
so in reality this battery is only good for short sprints? its not recommended to run it out till it dies? i want to upgrade the battery, i was thinking 2200mah 25c 2s lipo.
if your using a 2S then its no different than the stock battery in terms of voltage that is. That would not be a speed upgrade, runtime only perhaps. Did you mean you wanted to use a 3S maybe?
hi, good video, i wanted to ask, what discharge rate does your 3s have??
What is the reference model of the battery ?
What’s the best battery for longer run time ???
Is it safe to use higher voltage, won't burn out?
Yes, I used an 11.1 3S lips in this video. So it was fine. Ofcourse I don't recommend really bashing it hard with the larger voltage pack and don't go above 30C discharge rating or 2500 MAHH.
what if i get a 2S 7.4V 1500mAh 35C??? is the discharge too high???
As long as its a 2S thats fine. But in reality running anything larger than a 2S lipo is a trial and error thing. I stick to tighter high discharge (c Rating) 2S packs or low C rating 3S packs.
hybrid32494 there's no such thing as too high of c rating.
IF the C rating (peak discharge/Continuous discharge) of the battery is more than the peak/continuous current flow that the ESC can handle, they YES!!! there is such a thing as to high of a C rating. The ESC should have a higher AMP rating than the discharge on a battery.
moto degree good idea
My WLtoys 12428 stopped work afer I connect 3s battery. Didn't even strart driving it. No smoke, no burn just no reaction on throttel trigger, sterring servo works fine.
what type of 3S did you use? Meaning what was the discharge rate? I used a low discharge type one rated at 20-30C.
it is difficult to say for sure, it was stock battery which come with Chinese 250 quadcopter. it is very weak for quad I believe that discharge rate should be low. I tired to disassemble electronic board but inside of the box all in glue. I wasn't able to reach the board yet.
yes, you seem right. That would be a pretty small battery. Have you tried the wl toys with the stock battery?, not the 3S since this issue.??
yes, I tried stock battery, without luck. I tried to run motor from outside energy source it works. I hope that new electronic block solve the problem.
ok, only one issue I can see you having with changing the Electronic Speed Controller. This model has the ESC built in with the receiver for the radio. If you change it you will need a different radio system and servo (wires won't fit)
They come with metal diff gears these days..I always think about getting one to bash with a putting a 3000kv in it
dude, I'm about to make a video on how I think this is the only one of these worth getting. IT's so versatile and fast, I never striped any gears either. Mine ran fine with a 3S too. Did yo know these have real deadlock wheels too, you'll never have to glue any tires!!! This in my opinion is the best 65-80 dollar RC you can get.
@@hybrid32494 They seem really cool..and I hear the shock can hold oil?
@@philthyco1 Yes, I think they were friction shocks in the first versions but they upgraded to oil-fillable. Kevin Talbot mentioned he wanted to fill them. Good to see it runs on 3S, too. I have an HSP Flying Fish. Also runs on 3S brushed, now, after a short conversion to a too heavy brushless system. And there are upgrade brushed motors rated for 13V on the chinese market, too. So, no real need to worry about anything. The 10428 seems a bit nicer, though. But different price class of course.
Does the stock ESC have a low voltage cutoff to save the lipo's from discharging too much?
Hello, Yes it does. Still no issues with thie RC to daye, it's prooven to be one of the best chinese low end cheap RTRs I've ever had.
I shit myself the 1st time it did it I thought I had broke it lol
@@zingzing_mediahow would u say reset it
When looking for a
get this car and a few batteries. 1 runs about 15 minutes
I spent a lot of time searching, and this is great for puddles, mud, and night.
i researched alot as well and ended up getting the next model up of this rc for my very first rc,the 10428 1/10th scale,im still waiting for it in the mail so i cant tell you my "user: thoughts on it yet however after watching several vids on it i already want to oreder a better longer lasting battery for it,however i dont want to burn the motor out on the thing so i got to be carefull what aftermarket battery i get. but anyways i paid 155$ usd after a first time buyer coupon i got from bangood
Hi was this just the 1 run or is the 3s your go to battery every time? As in damage over time or is urs still good? Asking cos just got 1 and lkve upgrading too 😀
hey man, I don't always run a 3S in this, but I have done it multiple times so far, and have had no issues at all. Keep in mind the 3S I am using is a small capacity pack with a low discharge "C" rating. I don't recommend going over 30C for this model.
@@hybrid32494 have you only run yours on the street 3s? my rear diff died running 3s offroad after 3 runs, i think any resistance when running 3s causes the plastic diff gears to break, the metal replacements are dirt cheap though, i think banggood has the whole metal diff kit for around $16, worth it if you want to use a decent 3s battery.
Diff eating basket case. The moment they quit scamming us and build quality replacement part I will be buying one. Until they stop marketing and build quality like the ole days I just have to watch the money flyout of your wallet from the side line. After you spend said money on a 65 dollar buggy you'll find you could have bought an Arrma
anyone running the 12428 needs to go ahead and pull the motor and mount out and check the 2 panhead screws that fasten the motor to the blue mount as mine were super loose, I just happens to get lucky enough to notice during a heatsink cooling fan upgrade install. having problems with the 540 motor magnetic field causing the little cooling fan to not spin properly. I have 2 types a single and a dual the dual is slightly elevated on the heatsink giving just enough distance from magnets but the single sits rite on the motor, it's set up like the castle heatsink fan with a shroud like design. I'm sure that 1 would experience the same problem. Idk maybe these single types are more ment for brushless motors as there magnets might not be as strong. idk! anyway locktight on the mount screws and check them asap! vape on!
did your motor wobble some with the loose screws, or no?
hybrid32494 no. I only noticed cause I had to flip my motor 180° due to the magnetic field actually slowing down the cooling fans motor
Wasn't sure flipping it would help but it actually did as exactly 180° on the other side there's a big spot with no magnetic field just enough in the right spot to run the fans motor at the rite rpm and still allowing the fan to sit straight
i don't know about u...but my stock gears are made out of nylon. tried a 3s lipo battery, it killed it in matter of minutes. overall its a great fast buggy, but its not built to last, unless your wiling to upgrade it.
sorry to hear that happened to you. What 3s LIPO did you try, I only used a small 3S lipo with a low discharge rating. And btw they all have stock plastic gears.
I have tried a 3S LIPO battery but when I plug it the diode of the motor exploed... It works but I a bit surprised. Does somone now somthing about it ?
It's a capacitor and mine exploded as well. No other issues so far.
using same gears ,motor and esc that goes good with 2s will always be more power with 3s and have higher top end... as long as the motor and esc can handle 3s...if not esc will usually fail first or just shut down if amp draw is to much... this car is plenty fast on 3s...i would try to fit a 2200 3s in it if possible... even more power if you use same quality and c rated battery... less chance of puffing batteries and longer run times...
hey buddy! Thanks for watching. This particular model uses a combination RX/ESC, you cannot alter almost anything about the drivetrain either, it's what you see. Without going full brushless this is the only variable when it comes to speed in this car, the BATTERY.
not looking for speed but longevity, can you advice an upgrade so the kid can run longer than 10min each play?
The basic rule for longer run times is a larger capacity battery. That means you need more MAH capacity. The stock battery is 1500 mah, you can shop for a 2000 or 2500 mah battery, that would increase run time but your overall speed would remain the same. As long as you get a 7.4 Volt 2 cell limo with larger MAH rating. Does that help you?
hybrid32494 yes thank you
i’m into airsoft and just now getting into rc cars i have a 8.4 volt battery from my hk416 airsoft aeg (meant to shoot full auto 450 feet per second) what if i put that battery in a 12428?would i fry it?
James James cuz i’m just getting into rc
Do you think I'll have a problem with a 3s Lipo in the WLToys 10428? Thanks you
Hey buddy. You should be fine, it seems the 10428 and 12428 have the same running gear setup. Anytime you are unsure just take it slow for a few min and ull have a good idea of whether its too much juice.
Great. Thank you very much for the help!!
If you change to Li-PO battery. How are you control the power? Or esc will cutoff by itself?
hello, the original battery in this was a LI-ION, a LI-PO is almost the same thing, just a different shape. You can safetly run and 7.4V pack in this. I have even run a small capacity 3S 11.1 pack, with no issues.
hybrid32494 OK guy. Thank you for suggestion. Have you install Li-po battery gauge to monitor battery usage or not ?
this ESC has a lipo cut-off you don't need to really monitor it. I do check with a cell-checker for voltage though. But it's not necessary to do so, I only do it for my own info.
Hey! I know this video is 2 years old but I wanted to ask you a question.... If i put 2s 25c Li-Po 1500mAH into it, will it fry the esc/motor? And i have the SCT version basically same design but with different body.... Thanks in advance
hey buddy!!, thanks for watching!! You can run any 2S in this, it will be fine. I've even ran a small capacity 3S, and it was fine too. You can run a larger capacity 2S in this with no issues too.
@@hybrid32494 Wow, I'm surprised that you reply to my comment... what If I run s2 on 60c.. and what is C even stand for? ( I'm new to this hobby so I dont really know stuff that much)
I try to reply to everyone on here, no matter what, you know, I appreciate the views and interest. The way batteries are rated today is with "C" rating, which stands for "discharge rate". Basically the higher the C rating the more juice (amps) the battery can deliver to the ESC and the esc will deliver to the motor. Generally this will result in more punch off the line and a little higher speeds. As you get a higher rated "C" lipo they also cost more. In general I stick to 30-40C, they are cheap and good enough. The included lipos are usually around 20-25 C rated btw.
I bought the same battery but it has different ends on it... did you change them? where can I find a battery like that if not?
hello, Yes I soldered on different connectors. I use DEANS style plugs. If you're starting out in this hobby try to learn how to solder connectors, you'll save yourself a whole lot of headaches in the future. It's easy. Buy any cheap deans style connectors, heatshrink tubing, solder, a soldering guy, and you're good.
@@hybrid32494 Dude I bought one with a tplug and it wont run right.. my lights flicker and it barely moves. idk whats wring. its a 1300 mah 30c 3s..
@@Turppa21 so what was the issue ??
Can you use a lipo battery on this thing or is it li ion?
YES, did you see towards the middle of this video I put a regular 3S LIPO in this.
3s means higher voltage, will this not burn out the esc?
After running the 3S lipo multiple times I have not broken anything. Although I run a pretty low discharge 20-30C 1000 MAHH pack. Overall if the esc was not built to handle the higher voltage it would just not activate itself. You can check for urself on any 2S powered ESC system, a 3S won't work unless the ESC itself has the ability to handle the voltage. Hopefully thermal protection will turn on if needed.
You are not joking? It's really 3s lipo on stock brushed motor????
Hey man, yes i ran a 3s lipo on this stock system. Id did just fine.
what battery should i get? i dont care at all about speed. all i want is better run time and less charge. please help.
You can get any LIPO battery with larger capacity. Meaning more MAH rating. If you have the original 1500 battery then try doing for 2000 or so. But measure and read descriptions accurately to make sure if will still fit.
That looks the same as my lite hawk ace. Im thinking about hooking up a 9.6 volt 3000mah battery on it you think it would be ok?
hey man!! I've ran a 3S which is 11.1V, so should be fine. Worst case scenario is it prob won't activate the ESC if it's somehow not-compatible. I highly doubt it would cause any damage. let me know.
They are both ni-mh worst case senario i have to buy a esc from lite hawk i guess lol its 20 bucks
WL toys kite types ki atihe
Hi can I use a 3s as soon as the car comes out of the box?
Hey man. Yes, i ran a small 3s in mine. No problems. But try to not run a huge lipo, you never know. I ran a 25c discharge 3s.
thank you so much
Another abrupt ending LOL
Why aren’t you with this girl anymore she did a good job of filming
guess what?? I'm with her now! She says HI! Her fav RC is the Slash btw. This was filmed pre GO PRO days for me. Notice the shaking and terrible audio.
hybrid32494 i’m glad you’re still with her tell her I said hello and I didn’t notice the shaking and bad audio it was OK better then some TV shows and movies where they shake the camera for a dramatic affect which only pisses me off and takes me out of the show I like her nail polish lol
I put a 3s in mine and it flashes the lights and barely moves.. wtf... help lol 1300 mah 3s 30c battery
hey buddy!!! have you tried tis lipo on an other cars you have? just to eliminate it being a bad lipo to begin with. mine has no issue with a 3S and operated just fine. Try to stick it in there when it's not fully charged, and see what happens.
@@hybrid32494 Yeah i have a turnigy 1.0 3s that ran fine when it was half charged brand new but now it wont. Any idea on an esc I can put in it??
@@Turppa21 did the stock esc die on 3s? or what was the issue ?
3s on a brushed moter with plastic cogs and spurs its going to break and you said it came with a lipo( lithium polymer ) batt but it comes with a lion(lithium ion) batt
Yes, you are right, it did come with a LI-ON battery. That was a mistake, But in reality it does not matter because both battery types still can use the same LIPO charger and have the same balance plugs and basically work just like any LIPO battery, I usually don't differentiate between the two since they are much alike (other than shape).
@@hybrid32494 the stock esc isn’t designed for lipo batteries. It won’t stop sucking battery at certain level of discharge as it should be. As a result, lipo battery lifespan will go down dramatically.
@@LifeInVietnam2013 hey buddy! These cars come stock with a LI-ION battery, these contain the same type of charge protocols and voltages as a 2S lipo. I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. These come with Li-ION from the factory.
Did you recomend lipo 3s 1300 mAh 30c on this Car??
what do you mean, If I recommended it? I just demonstrated that this RC will operate significantly faster with a 3S. The size of the battery is up to you, depending on what fits. That was the battery I use on my Traxxas mini e-revo VXL and is very cheap overall.
hybrid32494 ok thanks.🇵🇹
hi great vid, i used a 3s lip battery with this rc car and i dont know much about batterys but it seems to have puffed up a little bit and i dont know why :( its a 1500mah at 11.1V and 40C please help what should i do
Bin it
" puffed up " ?? what did, the battery ? or did the motor burn out? or the ESC ??
@@user-qz6ix7od3b the battery did
here in Montenegro 80dollars ia very much for us jere
Hello, is RC popular over in Montenegro? It seems that RC prices are pretty similar worldwide.
Hello Do you think 7.4V 4200mAh 30c 2s Lipo will be good?
hey buddy! You could run any 2S lipo in this thing, it will come down to you being able to correctly fit it in the chassis. To fit a 4200 max pack you would need to get highly creative, for sure remove the rear wheel and possibly parts of the roll cage. But the system will handle it, no problem.
Can i run in rc car 3s 2200mah 20c??
hello, YEs you can. I would not really push it alot with a 3S though. I only did a few speed runs with it, it's fine.
hybrid32494 ok thanks
can all wltoys rcs handle a 3s lipo? can i use a zippy 3s 2200mah 30c??? pls answer this.. would be really a great help
im not sure if all WL Toys Rc models can handle a 3S, but this model can. Which model are you referring to? General rules are that if the model runs a 540 size or higher motor than you can usually run a 3S because the ESC is rated for more amps and voltage. The smaller scale RC models generally do not run 3S packs.
You can always try putting one in and trying it out slowly, If it has a built in voltage limit then it will just not operate with a 3S pack.
the motor is only 380.. says in the box though..
what model are you referring to?
wltoys l959
Lance Bucao Thats a 1/18 scale vehicle with a small motor and a non- powerfull esc. U can try to plug in a 3s. But chances r it will not operate. Online listing do not say if a 3s is usable, so u gotta try urself. Let me know
Can i change battery from The stock battery to 2s Lipo 7.4 Volt 3200 mAh
if you mean to a LIPO battery, then yes. I have ran this both on a 7.4 V LIPO and 11.1 V lips.
The Motor Got really hot tho but i turned it off for so it could cool down :P
when you say hot do you mean mildly hot or so hot that you cannot touch it and there was a smell? its fine if its warm you should be able to place your finger on it for 2-3 seconds in normal heat range.
Ah Okey i could take there for 3-2 seconds but not to long because then it would hurt my Finger. I didnt smell i think a little bit maybe Im not sure tho
yup, as long as you can touch it for a few seconds then its fine. That has been my experience with electric motors, you should be fine.
Hi whats the name of the battery? Or an amazon link would be great 👍
Stock is not lipo but li-fe
what is the maximum current on a 7.4v lipo
There are two ratings on a LIPO battery, a continuous discharge rating and a peak discharge rating. This particular lipo I was using has around 25C continuous and 40C peak discharge. More expensive batteries could get to 100C peak and 50C continuous. I try to stay not more than 30C continuous to make sure my ESC/s do not get fried. Does that answer your question?
I have the Feiyue FY-10. Does this car has the same esc?
I just looked up the FY-10, it looks totally different from this model. IT says it has a 390 size motor, not a 540 like this RC in my video. Chances are the ESC/RX unit is also different in that case. Also says it's top speed in only 30 KPH.
Anyway,what is the maximum continuous current on a 7.4v lipo that can run the car you have?
honestly, I don't know. I don't think any info on max current exists on this ESC. I would say that above 30C there is no need anyway. You won't notice much of a difference, you're better off running a smaller 3S lipo for more speed than a high discharge 2S lipo.
Is 4s too much? 😕
IDK LOL. I have a 4S, will attempt to try it out.
😂😂😂
@@hybrid32494 What happened? im getting a 12428 tomorrow. Def going 3s.. its safe right?
Yes I know it's a 2 year old comment.
But just in case someone is trying to research about this car and battery configurations, a 4s lipo will kill the ESC or the brushed motor or both. It can hardly handle a 3s, you might be able to get a few runs out of a 3s lipo before the ESC gets fried, or burns up the motor.
In order to successfully and reliably use a 3s or 4s lipo in this car you'll need to upgrade the ESC and the motor (go with a brushless system).
Can someone please send a Link to that 3s i cant find it
I'm sorry I don't have a link to this exact battery I used. The battery itself was purchased around 6 years ago at this point. Just look for any 3S lipo that will fit the dimensions of the battery compartment and try to stay under a 30C discharge.
hybrid32494 ok thanks
Original ESC bisa pakai battery 3s itu mas ? 11v
if I understand what you are saying, The original battery that this comes with is a 2S Li-ion rated at 7.2 Volts. The 3S as you saw here was my own battery from another model.
I did the same thing c number maybe to high i don't know
how did you like it? fast? What was the C rating. As long as you do a few speed runs it should be fine.
How is the top speed of this car?
top speed is ok, you can see it in the video. Not as fast as claimed but the control is pretty bad, you would not want to go over 35 mph ever.
I upgraded to a 2s, 20c, 2700 mah and believe me it is very fast. Probably a little too fast for this particular car.
Please someone can send link for REMO Metal differentials ???
Id like to see that too..
whoosh, 108 bucks. Id rather not break mine lol, or buy a second for parts.
Amazon
Can it run fine in 3s?
hey buddy! I will say that it DOES RUN on 3S. But keep in mind I only did a few speed runs. I didn't bash it the whole time. But the answer is yes, it will run on a small 3S pack just fine.
If i change stock battery to 11.1V 1800mAh , is it ok? no problem?
yes, I ran a 3S many times. Its fine. Just check your motor temp if you can and try to not run the whole pack to empty. I usually only run a 3S pack for 5-7 minutes to prevent extra abuse on the ESC and motor.
Thanks!!! It will be helpful to me. thank you!!!
My 12423 will not shut off I plug battery in and it takes off what do i do
is your steering working? is the car getting a good signal from the remote? Sounds like you have a remote binding issue. Let me know...
hybrid32494. Man I think the mother board is fried along with servo my son charged while connected and I see melted plastic around wires.plus the on off button does not work text me I will send pic 6162849725
hybrid32494. Yrs steering work and if I hit reverse its got be the mother board I can see melted plasticity wanna up grade to a brushless but think I would have to Chang remotes what do you think
so your reverse works? If thats the case the ESC seems ok, maybe it needs to be programmed somehow again. Either way the easiest thing to do if you want an upgrade would be to buy a complete brushless system. Since the rc uses a 2 in 1 receiver and ESC combo you would also need a new remote system. Its probably still cheaper to just buy a whole new one of these, and keep the other for spares.
hybrid32494. Man thanks for the help my kids like to tinker so its kinda a way to spend time with them i ordered a new motherboard i don't have a ton of extra money rite now for brushless system my boys birthday is around the corner so the upgraded system will be great present thanks
Hi can i put in 3s 850mah 35c thanks for answer😉
Oh yes i can😂😂 and its a bit faster 😂😂😉👍
wexi TV hey!! Yes you can. Thats a pretty small capacity battery, itll be fine. I have run a 3s 2000 mahh 20c.
hybrid32494 thanks
I’m using 3000mah in Dubai. Currently still testing it
Its a LI-ON basic battery not a lipo Lipo on its own is a lot quicker
Which battery can I charge to increase the charging time.
what do you mean? do you want more run time or more speed?
hybrid32494 I want more runtime would like to know what battery I can put?
you can use any battery that has more than 1500 MAHH capacity. Basically the more Mahi-Mahi rating the longer the run time you will have. Does that help you out?
Will the engine not burn using high power
hybrid32494 What battery would you recommend me to use?
No need for this rig to go fast anyway. Thats not it's niche'. Thanks for the video though.
You're totally correct, speed isn't everything for this RC. It handles like crap anyway, lol. But still surprised to see it hold up with a small 3S lipo in it.
After 5 minuts runing the esc will burne !!!!!!!!!!
Yup, with the 3s lipo it'll either burn the stock ESC, or kill the motor or both.
Yes with 3s my ESC and motor burned out unfortunately very quickly.
Hi brother.can I get remote of this car and charger
hello buddy!! Do you mean you need a new remote and charger? The remote is paired to the ESC, since it's a 2 in 1 unit. You can consider upgrading the entire system to run a separate ESC and receiver, or just buy a whole new one if you're not able to do.that. Any charger can be used to charge the lipo battery, as long as the connector fits.
@@hybrid32494 cannot l buy a remote
you lost your remote??? the problem is this RC uses a 2 in 1 design ESC and receiver unit. I am not sure if another similar 2.4GHZ remote would pair with the receiver in the car. Generally you have to bind them in higher lever models, not sure if this is the case here.
Doesn't come with a 7.4v Lipo comes with a 7.4v Li-Ion
Hello, yes, you are correct. I misspoke. Thank you for that clarification. This is an old video and I no longer run electrics of any kind. I have switched mostly to gas and Nitro and life has been fantastic since. Thanks again.
This is Jack from AWANFI.LLC.Do you have interested to test our battery.Thanks and I look forward to your reply.
hello, I would test any battery or RC product fairly, YES.
my email is hybrid32494@hotmail.com
That was surely not the top speed
YEs, I def had a few more miles left in that, check out my newer vids on this rc, I used a speed meter and recorded the speed with. a 2S and 3S.
The original battery is not a LiPo.
yes, you're right. I made a speaking mistake. No big deal, this truck is running and nothing has broken FYI>
@@hybrid32494 I didn’t mean to sound like a jerk. Just mentioning the distinction. Sorry.
@@brohoop hey buddy. No prob!! We all good. Btw ive gotten this truck upto 30 with a small 3s lipo in future vids.
@@hybrid32494 thanks! Will watch!
mines way faster than that i just got it tday
hey dude! So you're telling me you have the same one and its faster? How is that possible? I'm already running on a 3S lipo here, this is already the limit for this drivetrain.
I put a 3s in my 12428 and it started smoking and burnt up the motor as soon as I turned it on. Any thoughts?
Alex Bingham ir doesnt run on 2s lípo it runs on li-ion battery
@@gellona90 this video it is running stock on a 3s....Also, li-ion and li-polys are the same thing in a different package. The full name of a LiPo is Lithium Ion Polymer.