I once had an AD with the Carbine many years ago when I was very young. It went off while I was entering the kitchen. To make a long story short, here's what the standard brown box GI Issue did. It went through my back wall out of the siding and traveled 30 feet to my shed, missed some tools went out the back of the shed, hit my neighbors garage and penetrated both the back of the garage and through the garage door, entered my neighbors house, hit the side door which was opened and bounced off that solid wooden door and bounced back and embedded in her kitchen wall. I still have the round today that reminds me of that amazing bullet penetration. I was very fortunate that nobody was hurt/killed...
My father was a US Marine weapons instructor at Camp Pendleton. He bought both my brother and I an m1 garand in high school, but when he first started teaching us to shoot at the age of six he bought my brother a 243 bolt action and me an m1 carbine. My m1 carbine was stolen, and end up selling my garand needing money at the time. Well, my father passed away last year from Parkinson's disease, but my father handed to me another m1 carbine few years earlier it was his most treasured rifle. It was a commercial m1 carbine made by Iver Johnson. I asked how does it shoot? He said no problem just dont use steel case ammo. My father's platoon was sent to Vietnam and he was sent back to Pendleton to train the next generation of soldiers how to use these weapons and the m16....but his heart was wrapped around the m1 carbine, he knew what the rifle was capable of and its limitations. To those out there ragging on this rifle never understood what this rifle is about. My dad knew and understood it is the best pdw out there. Thank you, dad.
My condolences; loosing your father is hard. I just laid mine to rest a few weeks ago. Still catch myself tearing up when I think about him sometimes. He was in the Air Force during Vietnam and also loved the M1 carbine because his father carried one in WW2. I inherited his M1 carbine when he passed. Took it out to the range the other day and so far it has been one of the few times I felt somewhat happy and could manage a slight smile while thinking of my old man. One of his favorite stories about the M1 was when my grandpa was waiting to board a train in Italy during WW2 he somehow managed to release the barrel band just before boarding and his rifle came apart and fell in pieces to the ground. He had to try to scoop up all of the parts and board the train with an arm full of parts hoping that he had grabbed everything. Man, I miss those old farts!
A Marine morter man issued a 45 early in WWII recounts watching attacking Japanese solders get real close and not being able to engage until they got real close...later with the M1 Carbine...he could engage as far as 100 yards. He liked the Carbine.
@@snidelywhiplash This is why I rate M1 carbine so high, the light weight and low recoil really lets you capitalize on the advantage given by the semi-auto action of far higher hit rate. The major limitation of rifle fire is hit rate, the overwhelming majority of aimed shots miss, it's the greatest weakness that had the most room for improvement.
I had 2 of these weapons, sold one to a fellow service member many years ago. The barrel was shot out (WWII) service weapon. He replaced the barrel and loved it. the one I keep was a manuf late WWII according to service number and it was in very good condition. Still works like a chanp and has taken a few Deer over the years. I keep it handy and have some 5 round magazines for it when I am hunting.
We had a fellow at our gun club, used to shoot a 7" Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine in the indoor range... Everyone used to just step back through the partition and leave him alone out there to " do his thing". Honestly, the muzzle blast of that hand-cannon was the most satisfyingly loud, deep and throaty BOOM you've ever heard. Even the guys with .357 and .44 mags used to just smile, shake their heads and quietly mumble "Jeazus "... After a while, and he'd finished off his box of 50 rounds, ...your head would start to throb just a little. Good Times.
Happens that way when you shoot a cartridge with powder designed for an 18" barrel in a 7" barrel. If you handload with powders and loads specifically designed for the Ruger (or Contender) handguns, you will actually get higher velocity and less muzzle blast.
Thanx for the review. I've had my M1 carbine for 40+ years and love it. We've always heard it had similar balastics as a .357, but never saw anyone actually do a comparison. Thanx, nice job!
The 30 carbine is one of my favorite rifles for a range day: excellent balance, swing characteristics, quick pointing, and easy recoil. In terms of putting a smile on your face, the only modern firearm that comes close is the Ruger mini.
@@Gieszkanne Both the M1 and M14 are modern firearms as both are still made and both still used in self defense, by law enforcement, military and criminals, insurgents/terrorists.
“M1 carbine can’t penetrate the enemies winter clothes” …. My neighbor that earned the MOH using the M1 in -20 degree temps in Korea would like a word lol
Now I can avoid the overpenetration difficulty, with a choice of a Personal-Defense-Cartridge mentioned in this video. This is why I am glad, you are bringing these details to me, for the ordering of the needed future rifle. for possible patrol use, depending on the technical specifics. It is one of those, Federal Government specifications work, as defensive equipment for positive identification oriented engagements, such as security-oriented patroling.
That Federal Power-Shok was my go to load in the M1 Carbine for hunting or defense. Always consistent feeding, reliability, expansion, and penetration.
It'd be a tough sell. The .300 AAC Blackout has slightly superior ballistics in the AR platform with the option for heavy bullets that do great suppressed, and the 7.62x39 has even better ballistics and dirt cheap ammo in the AK platform. Pretty much the only thing that the .30 Carbine has going for it is the nostalgia factor of the M1.
@@cristianespinal9917 it would be an awesome alternative pcc round though, and it would be awesome to get some more modern revolvers chambered in .30 carbine. Edit: imagine a 9 shot s&w scandium N frame with a 5" barrel. That would be a sweet, sweet gun.
Israel had a pretty cool, "modern" design carbine called, IIRC, the MAGAL or some such (?) that used .30 Carbine and, for good or for bad, .30 Carbine magazines. I just remember reading a blurb about it a while back and don't know if it saw actual service or not.
@@stevencali3539 eh, it wouldn't really be a PCC, it would literally just be a carbine at that point. There's just not much of a niche for it there. For similar, but slightly better ballistics at that bore size, it's much easier to buy an AK, or buy a .300 Blk upper for an AR for $200-300. If you want a true PCC, 9mm or 10mm are better solutions and you'll have a ton of autoloading pistol options to share ammo with your PCC. As for a revolver, it's a rimless case so there's the issue of moon clips in a DA, which some people dislike, and I think there's too much competition for it to catch a foothold. Look at the .327 Fed Magnum. Granted, part of the reason I think it hasn't caught on that well is probably cost/rd which the .30 Carbine does much better. Hell, I considered a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk a while back, but I couldn't think of anything it did that I couldn't do better with a .357, .44, or .45 Blackhawk. I doubt having 1-3 more rounds of capacity would have swayed me. With all that, I'm all for options when it comes to guns and don't bash anyone's tastes; I'm only saying why I think it hasn't and don't think it would happen that .30 carbine will get much foothold outside of the M1 and a small number of other guns like the Automag and Blackhawk.
That's why a lot of soldiers carried them after the war into Korea and throughout the Cold War. Most of those on occupation duty in Japan, South Korea, and Germany were given both M1s and M2s as issued weapons.
I have had my Universal M-1 carbine since the early 1980's. It's been a very fun, reliable gun to shoot and easy to reload the ammo. Thanks for sharing
A friend of mine gave me one of these cartridges because I collect artifacts tied to American (among many others) history. I don't know where he got it but I was already well aware of its existence and I had no clue how reliable and efficient the cartridge was. I should have put two and two together since 6.3 million M1 carbines, along with hundreds of millions of cartridges, were developed and manufactured within a 1,460 day period. A rather short period of time and still sought after. I'm looking for an M1 Carbine replica right now and luckily I'm going to have the money to purchase one here pretty soon. I'm rather excited haha I like all of these new cartridges and everything related but it's hard to pass up something that is tried and true. Plus I am getting into hand reloading cartridges. I'm very tempted to go back to school and train in becoming a gunsmith. Only time will tell how all of this turns out. All of these concepts are merely aspirations at the moment.. I will certainly be uploading a video displaying a fire arm come spring. I hope everyone is having a happy new year and staying safe! Take care guys.
yes you are definetely right, love the M1, too. Have a Winchester and an Inland with folding stock. The .30 carbine is more powerfull than people expect.It penetrates 0.33 inch steelplates easily. Greetings from Germany....
M1 Carbine always been my all time favorite WW2 gun. Have very vague memories of shooting one sitting in my dad's lap as a young child in the late 60's He had several, all GI types. I have owned several over the years, mine were all civilian models but no GI's.
Man I'm lovin these m1 viedos there so thorough. Really appreciate the hard work from you guys. Maybe next little mini series should be another cool under rated caliber
Years ago we were given the task of testing all commercially available .357 Magnum ammunition for recommendation as the replacement for the poorly performing .38 110 grain JHP Treasury cartridge. During the testing we threw in a 9mm / 124 grain FMC fired from a Browning P-35 pistol and a 230 grain FMC .45 ACP fired from a 1911. Both FMJ (FMC) rounds just simply punched through our expansion test medium, but the .45 ACP penetrated windshields, car doors, and brush better than any other test round including the 125 grain .357 JHP.
I built a bullet trap made from 1/4 inch plate steel at a 45 degree angle to deflect bullets into sand. For a .22 it worked fine. I shot an M1 carbine at it from 50 feet away. It easily went right through the steel.
As always Chris, excellent video post. Interesting and informative, presented in an understandable way. Thank you for the great work. And also thank you for showing that firearm and shooting enthusiasts and sportsmen (and women) are not just a bunch of 2A gun nuts. I believe that the vast majority of "us" are responsible, safe, law abiding citizens.
This was great. The format of this test was very informative. Can you guys do a test of the best 5.56 pistol/sbr loads for hunting and defence along the same lines as this. I've seen some tests here and there of this subject but only one that was even close to this.
As I've owned an M1 Carbine and tested it a lot and currently own a .327 Federal carbine and tested it as well, I can safely say that the .327 Federal is capable of higher velocity levels and energy over the .30 Carbine. However, typically most wounds produced by the .30 Carbine with a quality JSP vs a .327 with a JSP, 110gr vs 100gr to be exact, performance is still nearly identical as a whole. Likewise, when comparing to .357 Magnum in a carbine, while the holes are marginally larger, in a lot of situations it was difficult to spot a difference.
@@Predalien195 Thanks for the assessment. I have and love an M1 carbine. I am very interested in trying a .327 Federal mag firearm, and I appreciate a real world opinion.
The french Foreign Legion used the 30 cal carbine in Viet Nam after WW2 because of its effectiveness in close range jungle warfare. Light and easy to handle.
Since the 30 cal carbine showed better penetration than the 5.56, it begs the question why the U.S. spent all that money on M-16's that needed so much expensive modification, rather than just issue M1 carbines in Vietnam.
Muh Military Industrial Complex, also for fighting the Soviets in Europe which was the real reason for the M-14, M-16, M-9 etc. ammo compatibility with NATO, all other considerations were secondary. 5.56 performs better at range than .30 Carbine and any infantry fighting in Europe can happen at easily greater distances than in the jungle of Vietnam.
got to shoot one of these at the range last year. i was surprised just how fun it was to shoot. the mags didn't always work but once we separated the bad ones we had a great time.
Good video! I used to breed horses and on ones that died I would test different cartridges on. I have always heard how bad the M1 carbine was, couldn’t shoot through a heavy coat that nonsense I found that FMJ penetrated great but not much damage. A good soft point was a different story, very destructive about the same as .357 mag. When I was a kid the M1 carbine was a popular deer gun, I think with good ammo I would not hesitate to use one. I have had lots of M1 carbines over the years, all Military ones were dependable guns. I used to buy them for $110 and sell them for $190 and think I was doing something. Back in the spring I had a chance to get a 100% correct WWII one out of an estate that was never monkeyed with, looked like it just came out of the factory in 1943 Hated to but paid $1,300 I think a good investment.
Fifty years ago Remington made a softpoint for this caliber that had considerably more exposed lead. Never shot anything bigger than feral cats with it but always produced astounding exit wounds. I'd surmise they expanded quicked than the current SP by Remington.
Thank you for making this video. I've always loved the feel of the M1 Carbine and desired one for decades, but never bought one... I spent all my $ on AR-15 pattern rifles instead, likely because it's what I was issued in the MIL. And I'm glad I stuck with the AR's. The M1 Carbine is exactly what you said it is, "somewhere between a rifle and a pistol", so I've decided to stick with my 5.56 rifles. It may not be what you wanted to hear, but I am grateful that you helped settle the issue for at least me. :-) Keep on. :-)
Nick X FYI The M1 Carbine .30 Carbine has roughly the same muzzle velocity as a .30-30 and it has virtually the same energy in ft/lbs on target up to 200 yards as a 5.56 in an M4. No I would not feel under gunned at all against my M4 with my M1 Carbine up to 200 yards.
@@rbm6184 Not even close. A 110gr .30-30 is going 2680fps at the muzzle and has 1760ft/lbs of energy. .30 Carbine 110gr is going 1900fps with 967ft/lbs. A .30=30 has almost twice the energy.
@@armynurseboy Wrong. Handloaded or original military load for .30 Carbine muzzle velocity is 2000 fps to 2300 fps. Average velocity of a .30-30 is 2200 to 2300 fps. You need to recheck your facts on muzzle velocity. I never said it had the same energy as a .30-30. I said it has close to the same energy as a 5.56 from an M4 up to 200 yards. You are basing your muzzle velocity on current market factory loads at 1900 fps, not handloads or the original military load. I have an M1 Carbine and I know I can load .30 Carbine much hotter than 1900 fps.
The 327 Federal Magnum 100gr American Eagle loading is literally nipping at the heals of a 30 carbine from a 5 inch revolver! My Henry lever action in 327FM reminds me so much of shooting a lever action 30 carbine.
I’m grateful for this excellent Part 2 . . . and I certainly look forward to subsequent M1 Carbine TH-cams. I trust you’d agree that greater mass 5.56x45 rounds might have performed better in the plywood penetration testing. It would be interesting to see a how “heavy for caliber” copper/monolithic projectile (such as some of the Barnes 69+ grain loads) would have preformed; obviously, velocity would be decreased but momentum would be increased., and I’d wager they’d do better that the standard 193s.
@Merle Morrison: Not really; light weight 5.56x45mm projectiles (such as 55 grain M193s) will often “tumble early and create a nasty wound.” HOWEVER, that absolutely isn’t the design objective of all 5.56 cartridges. For example, 77 grain MK262 OTMs are designed for accuracy and deep penetration at considerable ranges, not to yaw violently as M193s frequently does at relative short ranges. Your post indicates that you feel that virtually all 5.56x45mm bullets are light and are designed to functional identically, but that is FAR FROM CORRECT. That, of course, was the precise point of my initial post . . . specifically, it would be illuminating to see how heavier - and more potent - 5.56 cartridges would have performed in the “plywood test,” not just the lightweight 55 grain rounds.
Riojano En Alaska I fight with my wife while holding a 1 year old with a diaper loaded with poop and an ice cream cone up ended on my head. It’s gonna be hard to find a firearms instructor who will train me this way...... hard, but not impossible.
During W.W.2 the only issued round they had for the M 1 carbine was a full metal jacket round or a lead ball round, but it was hard cast . It would penitrate well but wouldn't expand unless it hit bone , so if it just hit soft tissue it would zip through and often carterize itself so it took multiple shots to bring someone down.
I have a Ruger Mini-14 and I love it. I had a custom leather sheath that mounts to my ATV that keeps it right there where I can get it out quickly. And anything under 100 yards is history. I can reliably put a pie plate group at that distance. No, I am not going to win any shooting competitions. But for iron sites, that's not too shabby. My only gripe is that it's kind of finicky about what you feed it. It will shoot Federal Premium all day long, but with the Winchester and Hornady it will occasionally hang up. Don't know why, it is what it is
Great presentation.....I really liked that you were able to provide such an information rich short video. If you have all day to watch the presenter make all the shots and comment on every one, I guess that is fine, but I appreciate that you didn't waste my time. Great video.
I grew up on the family ranch in west Texas. We had a couple M1 carbines my dad bought when they were sold off in the 50s for CHEAP. They were great "truck guns". I killed a number of coyotes and one deer with the M1. It was not my "deer rifle" of choice but it worked well enough on a "deer of opportunity" when I was working in the pastures during deer season. When my father passed away, the two M1s went to a couple of my brothers (there were plenty of guns to go around). That was in the early 90s, when there was a second influx of imported surplus M1 carbines available, so I bought two for myself. As I recall, they were around $150 each. The factory ammo is not as cheap as it was in the 50s and 60s, but it is still great fun to shoot. I use a cast (from wheel weights) 110 gr. round nose bullet for handloads. Cheap and fun to shoot, 100% reliable.
A good friend and I discussed the merits of starting a firearms company that makes replicas of WW2 guns over some beers the other night. I'm all for it
If they are not making it commercially yet get some hand loads using a typical 30cal/308 style pointed hunting projectile I hunted with one years back with those type of hand loads and it worked surprisingly well.
The .30 Carbine round isn't that far short of the 7.92 Kurz. 110 grains at 1990 fps against 123 grains at 2250 fps. It's interesting to consider what they might have had if they based the .30 carbine on a necked down .351 Winchester case instead of the .32 Winchester. But they weren't thinking of an "assault weapon" and they achieved what they wanted at the time, a pistol replacement.
M1 carbine is half the weight of StG-44 and you can carry almost twice as many rounds of .30 carbine ammo in 15-round magazines compared to same weight of 8mm Kurz in 30 round mags. Along with other factors like aperture sights, lower prone position, non-corrosive ammo and less muzzle flash i'd rate the M1 Carbine ahead of the StG-44 which is in a close 2nd place.
Great information! Defense was a big reason I bought an M1 carbine, but given its historical nature, I'd hate for it to endure the tender mercies of an evidence tech if ever used seriously, so that role now goes to a more modern rifle.
I certainly love mine. With the ammo improvements in recent years, it is a very viable light rifle. I was a little surprised to see the penetration differences berween the expanding bullets. The S&B bullets must be a little softer. That is an excellent penetration range (i have always thought the FBI maximum of 18" is too much; my comfort zone is no more than 16", and 14-16" seems fine). Hopefully a new generation of shooters will appreciate the benefits of 30 Carbine.
@@codyprice4592 Recoil is, of course, highly subjective and I don't find the M1 to recoil more than the M4. It's also worth noting that the M4 in most configurations is 2-3 pounds heavier than a "stock" M1.
@@itsapittie true. I did add a buttstock mag pouch to mine which adds weight significantly but also throws the balance of the rifle out of wack. Even with the loaded mag pouches on the stock I think it's like 6.5 lbs. Fully loaded. Its a true PDW that a lot of people overlook and looking at soft point and hollow point ballistics its mean as hell. 110grn at almost 2000fps? Damn lol.
Firstly, your videos are great, nice simple intro instead of the endless crap we often have to sit through from some channels. Second, I want one of these guns.
.357 Mag. Barnes with a 125gr at 2131fps has the same velocity / energy as the 125gr SST load I shoot in 300 AAC Blackout. I have a Marlin in 357 (purchased in 1990) and I've shot several deer with it using 158gr XTP. Works really well.
Great video with good comparisons with different types of calibers. I'm pretty sure if someone was hit by any of these bullets they wouldn't be able to tell which one it was and I'm pretty sure they would be stopped in their tracks.
have a M1 carbine, it is easily the most "fun" gun I have to shoot. the recoil is barely there imo. it is surprisingly accurate for what it is, standing unsupported I can rapidly plink steel at 100 yards and hit 10/10 times. the low recoil helps re-acquiring the target rapidly and the trigger pull is very smooth on mine. it's pure joy to shoot. only down side cheapest you can get ammo is 60 cents per online, locally it'll be more like 75 cents a bullet. So being fun to shoot it can get expensive....
I'm interested int he next video. I have a inland 1944, several universals, IAI and plainfield- the universals honestly run fine and I have no issues with them, though people love to hate on them. My experience with reliability is 1: magazines 2: reliable (new) springs 3: lube. I lucked into a few of the flip up sights a while back, I think one thing that would be good would be for more of those to come out in reproduction, I think they just work better than the slide click elevation (which sometimes slides when you don't expect it). Universals all have the side mount holes, but no one seems to do a rail for them, I'm curious what you come up with for RDS
I'm planning on picking up some of the Hornady Critical Defense .30 carbine ammo at some point to use in the M1A1 Carbine that my Great-Great-Uncle carried while serving as a Col. during the Korean War with the US Army. I'm also going to eventually pick up some ammo to use for hunting whitetails with since the shots in the area I hunt at are going to occur at VERY close range. (Last year I bagged a button buck at less than 10 yards while hunting antlerless muzzleloader season with my Dad's .50 caliber muzzleloader. Made a heart & double lung shot on it, and it dropped within 30 yards of where I shot it.)
the dimensions of the caliber itself are so interesting. if love to see a .30 carbine with a slightly thickened shell wall and just try to push it to the max
Again i have watched all of your series and thank you for it, its wonderful (im re watching it now). when i first got mine (as many from my grandfather) i thought this bullet (without doing much reasearch) isnt much more than a 357... so at 50 yards i shot it at my AR500 steel targets... i dented the F---- out of them. needless to say i only use the non dented side these days but... 30 carbine is no slouch, i suspect most of the bad talk comes from being use to using 30-06 in combat... big diffrence.
I had a commercial version years ago but it wasn't all that good. In the late 1990's I found several Israeli Arms M1's at an Academy store. I liked the fact that these guns are assembled using new old stock US GI parts. This little gun runs like a champ. I put an UltiMak rail system on it and use a red dot sight as well as sometimes using a regular rifle scope. I also have a replica of an 1873 Colt Peacemaker with 7 1/2 inch barrel chambered in .30 M1. I have killed three deer with this pistol using 110 Gr. hollow point ammo. JJG
Thank you. This is a very well presented assessment. I am prejudiced in favor of Buffalo Bore ammo. It is just me and my opinion based on good experiences. I will have to watch this video a couple more times, and maybe try some of the other ammo you used. But, damn! An M1 carbine is fun to shoot, isn't it?!
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I once had an AD with the Carbine many years ago when I was very young. It went off while I was entering the kitchen. To make a long story short, here's what the standard brown box GI Issue did. It went through my back wall out of the siding and traveled 30 feet to my shed, missed some tools went out the back of the shed, hit my neighbors garage and penetrated both the back of the garage and through the garage door, entered my neighbors house, hit the side door which was opened and bounced off that solid wooden door and bounced back and embedded in her kitchen wall. I still have the round today that reminds me of that amazing bullet penetration. I was very fortunate that nobody was hurt/killed...
My father was a US Marine weapons instructor at Camp Pendleton. He bought both my brother and I an m1 garand in high school, but when he first started teaching us to shoot at the age of six he bought my brother a 243 bolt action and me an m1 carbine. My m1 carbine was stolen, and end up selling my garand needing money at the time. Well, my father passed away last year from Parkinson's disease, but my father handed to me another m1 carbine few years earlier it was his most treasured rifle. It was a commercial m1 carbine made by Iver Johnson. I asked how does it shoot? He said no problem just dont use steel case ammo. My father's platoon was sent to Vietnam and he was sent back to Pendleton to train the next generation of soldiers how to use these weapons and the m16....but his heart was wrapped around the m1 carbine, he knew what the rifle was capable of and its limitations. To those out there ragging on this rifle never understood what this rifle is about. My dad knew and understood it is the best pdw out there. Thank you, dad.
My condolences; loosing your father is hard. I just laid mine to rest a few weeks ago. Still catch myself tearing up when I think about him sometimes. He was in the Air Force during Vietnam and also loved the M1 carbine because his father carried one in WW2. I inherited his M1 carbine when he passed. Took it out to the range the other day and so far it has been one of the few times I felt somewhat happy and could manage a slight smile while thinking of my old man. One of his favorite stories about the M1 was when my grandpa was waiting to board a train in Italy during WW2 he somehow managed to release the barrel band just before boarding and his rifle came apart and fell in pieces to the ground. He had to try to scoop up all of the parts and board the train with an arm full of parts hoping that he had grabbed everything. Man, I miss those old farts!
That reads like A.I.
A Marine morter man issued a 45 early in WWII recounts watching attacking Japanese solders get real close and not being able to engage until they got real close...later with the M1 Carbine...he could engage as far as 100 yards. He liked the Carbine.
Facing a banzai attack the m2 carbine would be my weapon of choice.
I can't shoot for shit and did 1" groups at 50 yards with an M1 Carbine on my first outing.
@@snidelywhiplash This is why I rate M1 carbine so high, the light weight and low recoil really lets you capitalize on the advantage given by the semi-auto action of far higher hit rate.
The major limitation of rifle fire is hit rate, the overwhelming majority of aimed shots miss, it's the greatest weakness that had the most room for improvement.
@@Treblaine realistically it's like a low power AKM
@@darthtyranus7683 in a sense..
Mad respect for the M-1 carbine and for you covering it.
I had 2 of these weapons, sold one to a fellow service member many years ago. The barrel was shot out (WWII) service weapon. He replaced the
barrel and loved it. the one I keep was a manuf late WWII according to service number and it was in very good condition. Still works like a chanp
and has taken a few Deer over the years. I keep it handy and have some 5 round magazines for it when I am hunting.
We had a fellow at our gun club, used to shoot a 7" Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine in the indoor range... Everyone used to just step back through the partition and leave him alone out there to " do his thing". Honestly, the muzzle blast of that hand-cannon was the most satisfyingly loud, deep and throaty BOOM you've ever heard. Even the guys with .357 and .44 mags used to just smile, shake their heads and quietly mumble "Jeazus "... After a while, and he'd finished off his box of 50 rounds, ...your head would start to throb just a little. Good Times.
Mini hand grenades! Obnoxiously loud, akin to a 5.56 in an 8” barrel with a brake. Crazy little round and way louder then it should be.
I've noticed that almost any rifle round from a pistol-length barrel has impressive boom and blast, even more than magnum handgun rounds.
Happens that way when you shoot a cartridge with powder designed for an 18" barrel in a 7" barrel. If you handload with powders and loads specifically designed for the Ruger (or Contender) handguns, you will actually get higher velocity and less muzzle blast.
I had the same experience with one. Nastiest blast effect I have ever fired.
Excellent choice - combo made of m1 carbine and this Ruger and you're fit for anything from self defense to hunting.
Very glad to see you cover this weapon. The M1 Carbine is one of my absolute favorite firearms.
Same here I own the stock one in my home which I bought from a antique shop.
I sure as hell love mine. It's my main rifle. My love
Same here. My father baught me one when I was 16. I'm over 50 and it's still my fav
Thanx for the review. I've had my M1 carbine for 40+ years and love it. We've always heard it had similar balastics as a .357, but never saw anyone actually do a comparison. Thanx, nice job!
Once saw an article where a carbine was converted to shoot 357mag , did a good job when it didn’t jam.
The 30 carbine is one of my favorite rifles for a range day: excellent balance, swing characteristics, quick pointing, and easy recoil. In terms of putting a smile on your face, the only modern firearm that comes close is the Ruger mini.
I love my Mini-14, but it's a LOT heavier than my M1 Carbine(s)!
The Ruger mini is a modern firearm?
@@Gieszkanne Both the M1 and M14 are modern firearms as both are still made and both still used in self defense, by law enforcement, military and criminals, insurgents/terrorists.
Lol the Ruger Mini does NOT put a smile on anyone I know's face, haha
“M1 carbine can’t penetrate the enemies winter clothes” …. My neighbor that earned the MOH using the M1 in -20 degree temps in Korea would like a word lol
who’s your neighbor?
Now I can avoid the overpenetration difficulty, with a choice of a Personal-Defense-Cartridge mentioned in this video. This is why I am glad, you are bringing these details to me, for the ordering of the needed future rifle. for possible patrol use, depending on the technical specifics. It is one of those, Federal Government specifications work, as defensive equipment for positive identification oriented engagements, such as security-oriented patroling.
That Federal Power-Shok was my go to load in the M1 Carbine for hunting or defense. Always consistent feeding, reliability, expansion, and penetration.
A resurgence of .30 Carbine popularity would be fun. I'd like to see some new firearms chambered for it.
It'd be a tough sell. The .300 AAC Blackout has slightly superior ballistics in the AR platform with the option for heavy bullets that do great suppressed, and the 7.62x39 has even better ballistics and dirt cheap ammo in the AK platform. Pretty much the only thing that the .30 Carbine has going for it is the nostalgia factor of the M1.
@@cristianespinal9917 it would be an awesome alternative pcc round though, and it would be awesome to get some more modern revolvers chambered in .30 carbine.
Edit: imagine a 9 shot s&w scandium N frame with a 5" barrel. That would be a sweet, sweet gun.
Israel had a pretty cool, "modern" design carbine called, IIRC, the MAGAL or some such (?) that used .30 Carbine and, for good or for bad, .30 Carbine magazines. I just remember reading a blurb about it a while back and don't know if it saw actual service or not.
@@CeltKnight I've read about it before. It was used for a couple of years before it was withdrawn because it wasn't reliable.
@@stevencali3539 eh, it wouldn't really be a PCC, it would literally just be a carbine at that point. There's just not much of a niche for it there. For similar, but slightly better ballistics at that bore size, it's much easier to buy an AK, or buy a .300 Blk upper for an AR for $200-300. If you want a true PCC, 9mm or 10mm are better solutions and you'll have a ton of autoloading pistol options to share ammo with your PCC.
As for a revolver, it's a rimless case so there's the issue of moon clips in a DA, which some people dislike, and I think there's too much competition for it to catch a foothold. Look at the .327 Fed Magnum. Granted, part of the reason I think it hasn't caught on that well is probably cost/rd which the .30 Carbine does much better. Hell, I considered a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk a while back, but I couldn't think of anything it did that I couldn't do better with a .357, .44, or .45 Blackhawk. I doubt having 1-3 more rounds of capacity would have swayed me.
With all that, I'm all for options when it comes to guns and don't bash anyone's tastes; I'm only saying why I think it hasn't and don't think it would happen that .30 carbine will get much foothold outside of the M1 and a small number of other guns like the Automag and Blackhawk.
The Charlton Heston quote is how I feel about my carbine.
My father carried an M1 Carbine in WW 2. He liked that it was light and compact. Much easier to carry around all day than a Garand.
That's why a lot of soldiers carried them after the war into Korea and throughout the Cold War. Most of those on occupation duty in Japan, South Korea, and Germany were given both M1s and M2s as issued weapons.
I’m really liking this small, more informal series while we wait for a higher production value video. You should definitely do this more often.
I have had my Universal M-1 carbine since the early 1980's. It's been a very fun, reliable gun to shoot and easy to reload the ammo. Thanks for sharing
I wish I would have bought one 6 years ago when they were more reasonably priced.
How much were they back then?
A 7.62x39 is much better at 200 yard distances and the ammo is super cheap. The only thing an AK or SKS won't be is lighter than an M1 carbine tho.
@@ferntheyoutuber9960 Around 500 or so. Last time I was at gun store the one they had was 1000.
@Kevin Olschesky 80 bucks in 1980 is about 235 bucks today. Not bad
@Kevin Olschesky WOW so how many did you end up with at the end of the decade!?!? ;
the Sellier&bellot 30 carbine with jsp bullet is a beast. Very powerful round out of a m1 carbine, Dont understimate this cartridge. Nice vid.
Ditto
A friend of mine gave me one of these cartridges because I collect artifacts tied to American (among many others) history. I don't know where he got it but I was already well aware of its existence and I had no clue how reliable and efficient the cartridge was. I should have put two and two together since 6.3 million M1 carbines, along with hundreds of millions of cartridges, were developed and manufactured within a 1,460 day period. A rather short period of time and still sought after. I'm looking for an M1 Carbine replica right now and luckily I'm going to have the money to purchase one here pretty soon. I'm rather excited haha I like all of these new cartridges and everything related but it's hard to pass up something that is tried and true. Plus I am getting into hand reloading cartridges. I'm very tempted to go back to school and train in becoming a gunsmith. Only time will tell how all of this turns out. All of these concepts are merely aspirations at the moment.. I will certainly be uploading a video displaying a fire arm come spring. I hope everyone is having a happy new year and staying safe! Take care guys.
yes you are definetely right, love the M1, too.
Have a Winchester and an Inland with folding stock.
The .30 carbine is more powerfull than people expect.It penetrates 0.33 inch steelplates easily.
Greetings from Germany....
In 1956 this was the weapon of the Air Force. I went through basic with it and loved it then and I love it now!
M1 Carbine always been my all time favorite WW2 gun. Have very vague memories of shooting one sitting in my dad's lap as a young child in the late 60's He had several, all GI types. I have owned several over the years, mine were all civilian models but no GI's.
Man I'm lovin these m1 viedos there so thorough. Really appreciate the hard work from you guys. Maybe next little mini series should be another cool under rated caliber
Years ago we were given the task of testing all commercially available .357 Magnum ammunition for recommendation as the replacement for the poorly performing .38 110 grain JHP Treasury cartridge. During the testing we threw in a 9mm / 124 grain FMC fired from a Browning P-35 pistol and a 230 grain FMC .45 ACP fired from a 1911. Both FMJ (FMC) rounds just simply punched through our expansion test medium, but the .45 ACP penetrated windshields, car doors, and brush better than any other test round including the 125 grain .357 JHP.
I've never had the pleasure of shooting a M1, but I feel like it's one of those guns you could shoot for hours and not get bored
Robert Lamberth You don't know what you are missing. Its the most fun gun I own. A real pleasure to shoot. Never boring.
It is except ammo costs
It’s not easy to find ammo and it’s not cheap here in Canada. But it’s a hoot , that’s for sure!
I built a bullet trap made from 1/4 inch plate steel at a 45 degree angle to deflect bullets into sand. For a .22 it worked fine. I shot an M1 carbine at it from 50 feet away. It easily went right through the steel.
As always Chris, excellent video post. Interesting and informative, presented in an understandable way. Thank you for the great work. And also thank you for showing that firearm and shooting enthusiasts and sportsmen (and women) are not just a bunch of 2A gun nuts. I believe that the vast majority of "us" are responsible, safe, law abiding citizens.
My favorite type of “jello shot” thanks for posting. Enjoyable and informative... go figure!
This was great. The format of this test was very informative. Can you guys do a test of the best 5.56 pistol/sbr loads for hunting and defence along the same lines as this. I've seen some tests here and there of this subject but only one that was even close to this.
Would have been interesting to see the 30 carbine compared to the 327 federal magnum
I forgot about that.
As I've owned an M1 Carbine and tested it a lot and currently own a .327 Federal carbine and tested it as well, I can safely say that the .327 Federal is capable of higher velocity levels and energy over the .30 Carbine. However, typically most wounds produced by the .30 Carbine with a quality JSP vs a .327 with a JSP, 110gr vs 100gr to be exact, performance is still nearly identical as a whole. Likewise, when comparing to .357 Magnum in a carbine, while the holes are marginally larger, in a lot of situations it was difficult to spot a difference.
@@Predalien195 Thanks for the assessment. I have and love an M1 carbine. I am very interested in trying a .327 Federal mag firearm, and I appreciate a real world opinion.
The french Foreign Legion used the 30 cal carbine in Viet Nam after WW2 because of its effectiveness in close range jungle warfare. Light and easy to handle.
Yes sir, that rifle was one of choice for the Legionnaires.
Since the 30 cal carbine showed better penetration than the 5.56, it begs the question why the U.S. spent all that money on M-16's that needed so much expensive modification, rather than just issue M1 carbines in Vietnam.
Muh Military Industrial Complex, also for fighting the Soviets in Europe which was the real reason for the M-14, M-16, M-9 etc. ammo compatibility with NATO, all other considerations were secondary. 5.56 performs better at range than .30 Carbine and any infantry fighting in Europe can happen at easily greater distances than in the jungle of Vietnam.
@@kelleysauer1693 .30 carbine may have better hard barrier penetration, but it has inferior terminal ballistics in tissue and MUCH shorter legs.
@@armynurseboy Does terminal ballistics matter if rounds are deflected or stopped by brush or cover?
When in our economy class we had to present a website based shop i presented yours.
got to shoot one of these at the range last year. i was surprised just how fun it was to shoot. the mags didn't always work but once we separated the bad ones we had a great time.
Presentation seem to get better all the time that was a very balanced vid.
Anyone else had a flashback to Old Painless and his Box O' Truth?
I have an M1 Carbine. Given to me by my father. Very early model. Still my newer APO SABER M700 in 6.5 Creedmoor is now my new favorite.
Best overall gun channel! Awesome work!
Brilliant rifle ,very advanced for it's day.
Another fantastic video. You are the best on the Internet.
These are always well made, well presented and well researched. Enjoyable to watch and I ALWAYS learn something.
Good video!
I used to breed horses and on ones that died I would test different cartridges on.
I have always heard how bad the M1 carbine was, couldn’t shoot through a heavy coat that nonsense
I found that FMJ penetrated great but not much damage.
A good soft point was a different story, very destructive about the same as .357 mag.
When I was a kid the M1 carbine was a popular deer gun, I think with good ammo I would not hesitate to use one.
I have had lots of M1 carbines over the years, all Military ones were dependable guns. I used to buy them for $110 and sell them for $190 and think I was doing something.
Back in the spring I had a chance to get a 100% correct WWII one out of an estate that was never monkeyed with, looked like it just came out of the factory in 1943
Hated to but paid $1,300
I think a good investment.
Fifty years ago Remington made a softpoint for this caliber that had considerably more exposed lead. Never shot anything bigger than feral cats with it but always produced astounding exit wounds. I'd surmise they expanded quicked than the current SP by Remington.
You shoot cats.
Totally missed the opportunity to have had Manny Mansfield run that 1911 for you...
Deezildennis Manny wouldn’t touch an underpowered carbine only the full power Garand will do for a really real man like him.
@@AmericanMinuteman95 ya...that's why I said 1911...
Thank you for making this video. I've always loved the feel of the M1 Carbine and desired one for decades, but never bought one... I spent all my $ on AR-15 pattern rifles instead, likely because it's what I was issued in the MIL. And I'm glad I stuck with the AR's. The M1 Carbine is exactly what you said it is, "somewhere between a rifle and a pistol", so I've decided to stick with my 5.56 rifles. It may not be what you wanted to hear, but I am grateful that you helped settle the issue for at least me. :-)
Keep on. :-)
For all practical purposes, AR15 is the way to go. More versatile and much easier platform to work with in every way imaginable.
Nick X FYI The M1 Carbine .30 Carbine has roughly the same muzzle velocity as a .30-30 and it has virtually the same energy in ft/lbs on target up to 200 yards as a 5.56 in an M4. No I would not feel under gunned at all against my M4 with my M1 Carbine up to 200 yards.
@@rbm6184 Not even close. A 110gr .30-30 is going 2680fps at the muzzle and has 1760ft/lbs of energy. .30 Carbine 110gr is going 1900fps with 967ft/lbs. A .30=30 has almost twice the energy.
@@armynurseboy Wrong. Handloaded or original military load for .30 Carbine muzzle velocity is 2000 fps to 2300 fps. Average velocity of a .30-30 is 2200 to 2300 fps. You need to recheck your facts on muzzle velocity. I never said it had the same energy as a .30-30. I said it has close to the same energy as a 5.56 from an M4 up to 200 yards. You are basing your muzzle velocity on current market factory loads at 1900 fps, not handloads or the original military load. I have an M1 Carbine and I know I can load .30 Carbine much hotter than 1900 fps.
The 327 Federal Magnum 100gr American Eagle loading is literally nipping at the heals of a 30 carbine from a 5 inch revolver! My Henry lever action in 327FM reminds me so much of shooting a lever action 30 carbine.
I’m grateful for this excellent Part 2 . . . and I certainly look forward to subsequent M1 Carbine TH-cams. I trust you’d agree that greater mass 5.56x45 rounds might have performed better in the plywood penetration testing. It would be interesting to see a how “heavy for caliber” copper/monolithic projectile (such as some of the Barnes 69+ grain loads) would have preformed; obviously, velocity would be decreased but momentum would be increased., and I’d wager they’d do better that the standard 193s.
the 5.56 performed as designed - it tumbles early and creates a nasty wound.
@Merle Morrison: Not really; light weight 5.56x45mm projectiles (such as 55 grain M193s) will often “tumble early and create a nasty wound.” HOWEVER, that absolutely isn’t the design objective of all 5.56 cartridges. For example, 77 grain MK262 OTMs are designed for accuracy and deep penetration at considerable ranges, not to yaw violently as M193s frequently does at relative short ranges. Your post indicates that you feel that virtually all 5.56x45mm bullets are light and are designed to functional identically, but that is FAR FROM CORRECT. That, of course, was the precise point of my initial post . . . specifically, it would be illuminating to see how heavier - and more potent - 5.56 cartridges would have performed in the “plywood test,” not just the lightweight 55 grain rounds.
@@roykiefer7713 you missed my point - I was ONLY referring to the original round.....
@Merle Morrison: You certainly didn’t indicate that in your first post, how are we supposed to deduce it . . . Devine intervention perhaps?
Love your style and how you present all the videos and idéas.
Thank you again.
Appreciate you respect & appreciation for a legend. Limited capacities, of course, but not completely incapable. Good results. Thanks.
0:28 "I did some Jello shots"
I'm no expert, but I don't think you should be drinking while handling firearms my friend.
Train how you fight
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Lmao
@@luisbarrasabengoa8289 - You win the internet. 👍🏻😆
@@luisbarrasabengoa8289 I actually liked, then un-liked, that comment, then liked it again, just so I could like it twice.
Riojano En Alaska I fight with my wife while holding a 1 year old with a diaper loaded with poop and an ice cream cone up ended on my head. It’s gonna be hard to find a firearms instructor who will train me this way...... hard, but not impossible.
That 357 Buffalo Bore seems like pretty destructive stuff!...
Great tests - thank you! 👌
During W.W.2 the only issued round they had for the M 1 carbine was a full metal jacket round or a lead ball round, but it was hard cast .
It would penitrate well but wouldn't expand unless it hit bone , so if it just hit soft tissue it would zip through and often carterize itself so it took multiple shots to bring someone down.
I have a Ruger Mini-14 and I love it. I had a custom leather sheath that mounts to my ATV that keeps it right there where I can get it out quickly. And anything under 100 yards is history. I can reliably put a pie plate group at that distance. No, I am not going to win any shooting competitions. But for iron sites, that's not too shabby. My only gripe is that it's kind of finicky about what you feed it. It will shoot Federal Premium all day long, but with the Winchester and Hornady it will occasionally hang up. Don't know why, it is what it is
Great presentation.....I really liked that you were able to provide such an information rich short video. If you have all day to watch the presenter make all the shots and comment on every one, I guess that is fine, but I appreciate that you didn't waste my time. Great video.
It will shoot through Two locus Post,Got My First Deer With One,101 Tennessee Prepper Smoky Mountain TN.
I really dig the upgrade at the end of the Dirty Harry theme !!!!
.30 Carbine is no joke. Great little gun and round, espec. for women and children.
dannylandrum,
...and Men... ☆
great info
Indeed.
great comment
@@nicolascancio1240 great reply
@@chasegilley1906 excellent response
Man, you pack in a ton of info in your videos, thank you.
Loved the series on the gun! Good job
I grew up on the family ranch in west Texas. We had a couple M1 carbines my dad bought when they were sold off in the 50s for CHEAP. They were great "truck guns". I killed a number of coyotes and one deer with the M1. It was not my "deer rifle" of choice but it worked well enough on a "deer of opportunity" when I was working in the pastures during deer season. When my father passed away, the two M1s went to a couple of my brothers (there were plenty of guns to go around). That was in the early 90s, when there was a second influx of imported surplus M1 carbines available, so I bought two for myself. As I recall, they were around $150 each. The factory ammo is not as cheap as it was in the 50s and 60s, but it is still great fun to shoot. I use a cast (from wheel weights) 110 gr. round nose bullet for handloads. Cheap and fun to shoot, 100% reliable.
Looks great for quick targeting in indoor urban fights.
A good friend and I discussed the merits of starting a firearms company that makes replicas of WW2 guns over some beers the other night. I'm all for it
That rifle took out Bugsy Segal the pressure was so great it popped his eye out across the room.
If they are not making it commercially yet get some hand loads using a typical 30cal/308 style pointed hunting projectile
I hunted with one years back with those type of hand loads and it worked surprisingly well.
Cool stuff Chris. Thanks for the legwork...er....trigger work.
The .30 Carbine round isn't that far short of the 7.92 Kurz. 110 grains at 1990 fps against 123 grains at 2250 fps. It's interesting to consider what they might have had if they based the .30 carbine on a necked down .351 Winchester case instead of the .32 Winchester. But they weren't thinking of an "assault weapon" and they achieved what they wanted at the time, a pistol replacement.
M1 carbine is half the weight of StG-44 and you can carry almost twice as many rounds of .30 carbine ammo in 15-round magazines compared to same weight of 8mm Kurz in 30 round mags.
Along with other factors like aperture sights, lower prone position, non-corrosive ammo and less muzzle flash i'd rate the M1 Carbine ahead of the StG-44 which is in a close 2nd place.
Great information! Defense was a big reason I bought an M1 carbine, but given its historical nature, I'd hate for it to endure the tender mercies of an evidence tech if ever used seriously, so that role now goes to a more modern rifle.
One of My favorite rifles.
I certainly love mine. With the ammo improvements in recent years, it is a very viable light rifle. I was a little surprised to see the penetration differences berween the expanding bullets. The S&B bullets must be a little softer. That is an excellent penetration range (i have always thought the FBI maximum of 18" is too much; my comfort zone is no more than 16", and 14-16" seems fine). Hopefully a new generation of shooters will appreciate the benefits of 30 Carbine.
I would really like to see this test done again with each major nation of WWII. just as a fun comparison.
Definitely a cool little rifle there. I imagine the recoil is low enough to just keep shooting it until you run out of ammo or get bored for the day.
Yeep. Low recoil.
It definitely is. Even beginners and small-statured shooters can handle it easily.
Id say a pinch more than 5.56 out of an AR/M4. Also has a distinct sound when fired lol.
@@codyprice4592 Recoil is, of course, highly subjective and I don't find the M1 to recoil more than the M4. It's also worth noting that the M4 in most configurations is 2-3 pounds heavier than a "stock" M1.
@@itsapittie true. I did add a buttstock mag pouch to mine which adds weight significantly but also throws the balance of the rifle out of wack. Even with the loaded mag pouches on the stock I think it's like 6.5 lbs. Fully loaded. Its a true PDW that a lot of people overlook and looking at soft point and hollow point ballistics its mean as hell. 110grn at almost 2000fps? Damn lol.
Firstly, your videos are great, nice simple intro instead of the endless crap we often have to sit through from some channels. Second, I want one of these guns.
Eexcellent video as always. Hope your cold gets better soon!
Love those little rifles. Still my fav over my AK and ars
Love this series... gonna hit my wallet because im thinking I need one now. Thank you for the content
.357 Mag. Barnes with a 125gr at 2131fps has the same velocity / energy as the 125gr SST load I shoot in 300 AAC Blackout. I have a Marlin in 357 (purchased in 1990) and I've shot several deer with it using 158gr XTP. Works really well.
The reason I came back to watch another one of your video is you have one of the best beard of all time. Keep that but brother
Get some more variety in at lucky gunner so I can buy it!
Great video with good comparisons with different types of calibers. I'm pretty sure if someone was hit by any of these bullets they wouldn't be able to tell which one it was and I'm pretty sure they would be stopped in their tracks.
Great info video.
Uploaded "3 seconds ago" is probably the quickest I've caught a TH-cam video, lol
Awesome video Chris! Just discovered your channel and am excited to explore more of your videos!
have a M1 carbine, it is easily the most "fun" gun I have to shoot.
the recoil is barely there imo.
it is surprisingly accurate for what it is, standing unsupported I can rapidly plink steel at 100 yards and hit 10/10 times.
the low recoil helps re-acquiring the target rapidly and the trigger pull is very smooth on mine. it's pure joy to shoot.
only down side cheapest you can get ammo is 60 cents per online, locally it'll be more like 75 cents a bullet. So being fun to shoot it can get expensive....
exactly what i was looking for
Great series. Really loving this one!
Such a great test! Thank you LG.
I'm interested int he next video. I have a inland 1944, several universals, IAI and plainfield- the universals honestly run fine and I have no issues with them, though people love to hate on them.
My experience with reliability is 1: magazines 2: reliable (new) springs 3: lube.
I lucked into a few of the flip up sights a while back, I think one thing that would be good would be for more of those to come out in reproduction, I think they just work better than the slide click elevation (which sometimes slides when you don't expect it).
Universals all have the side mount holes, but no one seems to do a rail for them, I'm curious what you come up with for RDS
I'm planning on picking up some of the Hornady Critical Defense .30 carbine ammo at some point to use in the M1A1 Carbine that my Great-Great-Uncle carried while serving as a Col. during the Korean War with the US Army.
I'm also going to eventually pick up some ammo to use for hunting whitetails with since the shots in the area I hunt at are going to occur at VERY close range. (Last year I bagged a button buck at less than 10 yards while hunting antlerless muzzleloader season with my Dad's .50 caliber muzzleloader. Made a heart & double lung shot on it, and it dropped within 30 yards of where I shot it.)
Great info. Thanks!
"Jello shots".😂
Cool stuff. If I can every get one for a decent price I’m definitely picking it up.
the dimensions of the caliber itself are so interesting.
if love to see a .30 carbine with a slightly thickened shell wall and just try to push it to the max
Im in love with 357 revolvers and now lever actions lol. I dont know why,but 44 mag just doesnt make me feel the same
Again i have watched all of your series and thank you for it, its wonderful (im re watching it now). when i first got mine (as many from my grandfather) i thought this bullet (without doing much reasearch) isnt much more than a 357... so at 50 yards i shot it at my AR500 steel targets... i dented the F---- out of them. needless to say i only use the non dented side these days but... 30 carbine is no slouch, i suspect most of the bad talk comes from being use to using 30-06 in combat... big diffrence.
Digging the new outro. Great video
Amazing you can still easily find ammo for these. And at about the same price point as .555.
Again, well done!
I had a commercial version years ago but it wasn't all that good. In the late 1990's I found several Israeli Arms M1's at an Academy store. I liked the fact that these guns are assembled using new old stock US GI parts. This little gun runs like a champ. I put an UltiMak rail system on it and use a red dot sight as well as sometimes using a regular rifle scope. I also have a replica of an 1873 Colt Peacemaker with 7 1/2 inch barrel chambered in .30 M1. I have killed three deer with this pistol using 110 Gr. hollow point ammo. JJG
you should have included 9mm in wood penetration test.
Thank you. This is a very well presented assessment. I am prejudiced in favor of Buffalo Bore ammo. It is just me and my opinion based on good experiences. I will have to watch this video a couple more times, and maybe try some of the other ammo you used. But, damn! An M1 carbine is fun to shoot, isn't it?!