@@kimseak385 I always do full body workouts, 3-4x per week. I typically do 3-5 sets of pull ups and chin ups each workout. One program I like to do includes 3 tri-sets of push, pull, squat; the pull exercises are pull ups, chin ups, and neutral grip pull ups. Reps are anywhere from 8-12 per set, depending on how I'm feeling. Almost always go to failure on all variants. Best regards
@@guitargeeknwamight want to add some horizontal pulling from now on otherwise bad stuff happens to your shoulder girdle.. from what i heard. Then again you might have been doing this for decades and have it be going well
Neutral grip is by far my favorite. With that grip the amount of pull ups or chin ups I'm able to do increased. When I'll do my pull training I usually use all of these three different grips. After first set I'll switch my grip and so on.
When I was serving in the Police force, the drill and field instructors place emphasis on pull ups as the obstacle courses required us to scale 2.5 metre walls solo.
I like weighted pull ups because I've heard traditional pull ups utilize the back more. I mainly only do three lifts though so I have my lifts focus on the biggest muscles. I do other lifts but mainly as physical therapy
I had a friend who tried sayi mg that he uses pull down machines because it’s a bigger weight than his body so I embarrassed him in front of our group by saying if it’s heavier how come you can’t do one pull up
Is the part about wide grip giving a wide back a myth by now? I have seen a lot of breakdown of biomechanics and emg, showing the wide grip to be a poor choice regardless of goal?
Used to only do pull ups. Now I do equal amounts of both. Love them both. So many people out there don’t know which name is for which though. It’s the there/their of exercise lol.
Use as many resistance bands as you need so you can perform at least 3 reps, and decrease resistance as you get stronger. You can put 2 or 3 bands at the same time.
You may find neutral grip work the most comfortable if you have wrist issues. Neutral puts your wrist into a very strong position. Something to consider
That's because you're not strong enough yet to carry your own bodyweight, resulting in bad posture, resulting in bones hitting each other. Have you tried doing assisted pull-ups/dips? Or are you just suffering from an old injury you're conveniently leaving out of your comment?
The wide grip doesn't targets your lats, imagine your lats as a rubber band stretched between two points, when is that rubber band stretched the greatest, when the two points are furthest apart i.e a close grip, when you switch to a wide grip, the stretch gets reduced to a 90° which was 180° in the close grip, you wanna stretch your lats try to do close grip chins not wide grip this false information is spread by uneducated people back in the day claiming themselves experts and because of that this is written in books and taught in universities of excercise science/so called science of bodybuilding.
@@dingickso4098 mostly the trapezius and the one looks like eyes in the demon back, I'm no science expert however i learnt this after wasting months thinking wide grip works lats.
If you are seeing significant back development and lagging bicep growth, try some bicep accessory movements. I love ring bicep curls but there's nothing wrong with doing weights + calisthenics. If you are having overall lagging progression, it could be diet/training volume/intensity.
I enjoy them all, I recently switched from pullups to chinups in my routine. I do single and double kettlebells, fast and slow, I do dips and pullups and added a heavy deadball too to my gym. Every other workout is deadball-centric or kettlebell-centric. I choose chinups now because I work the back a lot with the deadball, and I can use the extra stimulus on the biceps. I do single overhead press and weighted dips for triceps, shoulders etc, and I don’t really have the time and energy for doing biceps curls, so chinups check that box for me.
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I use both. Two of the best body weight exercises out there.
How many reps and sets? And do you only do those 2 on pull days?
@@kimseak385 I always do full body workouts, 3-4x per week. I typically do 3-5 sets of pull ups and chin ups each workout. One program I like to do includes 3 tri-sets of push, pull, squat; the pull exercises are pull ups, chin ups, and neutral grip pull ups. Reps are anywhere from 8-12 per set, depending on how I'm feeling. Almost always go to failure on all variants. Best regards
@@guitargeeknwathats nice keep doing full body workouts
@@guitargeeknwamight want to add some horizontal pulling from now on otherwise bad stuff happens to your shoulder girdle.. from what i heard. Then again you might have been doing this for decades and have it be going well
This was the most well rounded explanation of chin ups and pull ups I've seen for a while
Check out calisthenicsmovement, they do very good explanations
Where my neutral grip homies at
L sit neutral grip is the best
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Underrated grip
Neutral grip is by far my favorite. With that grip the amount of pull ups or chin ups I'm able to do increased. When I'll do my pull training I usually use all of these three different grips. After first set I'll switch my grip and so on.
Same. Neutral feels the most natural to me.
Same
When I was serving in the Police force, the drill and field instructors place emphasis on pull ups as the obstacle courses required us to scale 2.5 metre walls solo.
I do both. Pullups on back day and chinups on arm day
I do both
Great collab, Ring enjoyer here!
I miss going to a gym with rings. The stretch is so good.
I like weighted pull ups because I've heard traditional pull ups utilize the back more. I mainly only do three lifts though so I have my lifts focus on the biggest muscles. I do other lifts but mainly as physical therapy
I had a friend who tried sayi mg that he uses pull down machines because it’s a bigger weight than his body so I embarrassed him in front of our group by saying if it’s heavier how come you can’t do one pull up
Great info guys, God bless 💪
I find I can do least of Wide Grip Pull ups.
So I try to start off with them, to make sure I am least fatigued while doing them.
Doing chin up getting stronger goal is to have more bicep strength
Thanks! I couldn't understand why it was way more difficult doing pull ups from some Point on (getting chin over bar), now I know due to Anatomy!
Is the part about wide grip giving a wide back a myth by now? I have seen a lot of breakdown of biomechanics and emg, showing the wide grip to be a poor choice regardless of goal?
I prefer pull-ups just because they feel more natural
I prefer neutral grip )
Is there a way to build up mobility to make chin ups feel better?
I had a 270 degree labral tear many years ago and ever since pull ups aggravate my shoulder. Chin ups don’t seem to bother me at all.
Used to only do pull ups. Now I do equal amounts of both. Love them both. So many people out there don’t know which name is for which though. It’s the there/their of exercise lol.
Do you have any suggestions for a muscle up (great content btw)
Use as many resistance bands as you need so you can perform at least 3 reps, and decrease resistance as you get stronger. You can put 2 or 3 bands at the same time.
Awesome video
I choose both...but im stronger at pull-ups
My favourite used to be ring muscle ups but my new gym doesn’t have stuff for it
I like rings or bar chins.
always do them both. But as of today I love more pullups, while as I beginner I used to like more the chinups
Fortunately they are all subscription free - I use 3.
Chinup, pullup and neutral grip. Neutral grip lately the most with weighted pullups.
I couldn’t decide which was better and decided not to do it at all
I noticed the last time I was really getting into pullups that chinups started hurting one elbow. This time I'm trying rings
Wide grip dosent build width because you have a much greater stretch and range of motion if your arms are directly overhead
I love both. 💯❤️
I used both, but my preferred variant is neutral, when the bar allows it (or something close to neutral).
i love chin ups, a bit easier than pull ups, but they have a great effect, easy way to quickly start getting compliments on your back and arms
I use what I can find instead of a purpose-built bar, and chin ups are often more comfortable on improvised bars.
Never thought of doing chin up movements with rings.... I like the idea 👍
Wide pull up set then chin ups when I'm tired
Both, but usually I do pullup then squeeze everything I've got left with chinups
Chin ups are painful for my wrist, so I prefer pull ups.
You may find neutral grip work the most comfortable if you have wrist issues. Neutral puts your wrist into a very strong position. Something to consider
I like neutral grip
I can't even do 1 these days. I used to have a strong back but not anymore 😢.
I always struggled/gassed out after the first set of pull up. I thought I'm not progressing. Turns out I do because of my increasing bodyweight
I like this workout
Well, currently, I do chin ups because I'm seeking more biceps 💪 muscle mass.
Is it working?
@elijeremiah1058 yeah , perfectly, just as I wanted .
@@wefeelitweliveitnaugthy that’s awesome, I’ll have to try
@elijeremiah1058 one thing you should know, aim for proper technique not more reps for muscle mass gain.
@@wefeelitweliveitnaugthy so I’ll need to find a video on proper chin-up form
I chose both and pushups also..
Neutral grip is underrated
Please look into the research regarding neutral grip pullups being more than enough with the back?
I prefer pull ups because they carry over to climbing and muscle ups well and they also hit ur upper lats better which is great for a wide v taper
bigger guns! 😮
Do chin ups work the back like pull-ups do?
Chin ups here. Pull ups and dips hurt my shoulders.
That's because you're not strong enough yet to carry your own bodyweight, resulting in bad posture, resulting in bones hitting each other. Have you tried doing assisted pull-ups/dips? Or are you just suffering from an old injury you're conveniently leaving out of your comment?
My personal favourite is the chin-up but I do both in my routine. Pull-ups are weaker for me.
I do both plus commando pull ups.
Doesn't that extra stretch on the lats make the chin ups better for muscle growth?
boffum cause whytfnot
Weird, I can do like double the pull-ups that I can with chin-ups, but the latter does bother my wrist.
So who's the other guy beside Buff Sheldon?
I try to do both, but I can do more chin ups so I like them better 😅
Both
which is better for armwrestling
Pull ups
I LIKE BOTH! I feel chinups are easier
*Rings has entered the chat*
Chip ups for big guns
I wamt the cobra back like bruce lee. FoR thqt how do i do pullups
I can't even do a chin ups (wrist pain)
Good heavens… what in Georgia did I just witness… peaches
Both 🍷🗿
I want a bigger back. I do pull ups
Chin ups cause pull ups give me tendonitis
Pullups weighted, chinups only bodyweight because my elbows somehow dont like them.
Chin ups for me 🫡
Wide grip chinups are extremely underrated. They're way better than close grip chinups.
I Do Both, made basic strength for another calisthenic skills
Pullups all day
As a girl i prefer doing chin up
Chin ups, pull ups have never felt right and I like the range of motion on chins
mixed grip pull ups cause I wanna look like quagmire after he discovered internet porn
Versus
Bro I can do 21 pull-ups but like 9 chin-ups (haven’t done a full test) 😭
Are these a couple?
Can't do pull ups but can do chin ups
The wide grip doesn't targets your lats, imagine your lats as a rubber band stretched between two points, when is that rubber band stretched the greatest, when the two points are furthest apart i.e a close grip, when you switch to a wide grip, the stretch gets reduced to a 90° which was 180° in the close grip, you wanna stretch your lats try to do close grip chins not wide grip this false information is spread by uneducated people back in the day claiming themselves experts and because of that this is written in books and taught in universities of excercise science/so called science of bodybuilding.
as soon as he said wide grip for width i scrolled down
So what does the wide grip do, which muscles are working?
@@dingickso4098 mostly the trapezius and the one looks like eyes in the demon back, I'm no science expert however i learnt this after wasting months thinking wide grip works lats.
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Pull ups - mainly upper back muscles
Chin ups - mainly lat muscles
Do chinups really hit them biceps though? Been doing them for a bit and I don’t see shi.
That's deep
curl and you will see gains, don't listen to the kids saying that the chinup is the best arm builder
If you are seeing significant back development and lagging bicep growth, try some bicep accessory movements. I love ring bicep curls but there's nothing wrong with doing weights + calisthenics. If you are having overall lagging progression, it could be diet/training volume/intensity.
I enjoy them all, I recently switched from pullups to chinups in my routine. I do single and double kettlebells, fast and slow, I do dips and pullups and added a heavy deadball too to my gym. Every other workout is deadball-centric or kettlebell-centric. I choose chinups now because I work the back a lot with the deadball, and I can use the extra stimulus on the biceps. I do single overhead press and weighted dips for triceps, shoulders etc, and I don’t really have the time and energy for doing biceps curls, so chinups check that box for me.
I do both.
I do both
Both
I do both