I subscribed to FSD on May 22ns and was automatically enrolled in FSD beta on 2023.12.10. Made a 2K road trip where FSD beta did about 50% of the driving. We are 70 years old and FSD can be brilliant and infuriating. My wife said FSD reminded her of a 15-year-old with a learner's permit. The sexy graphics of FSD beta is pretty cool and can be swiped to the right to fill the entire screen. All the additional visuals are spectacular. Auto Lane Change is brilliant. I trusted it implicitly.
Great video. One of the best I've seen comparing features of the 3 levels. I have EAP and would like to try FSD but have no subscription option in Canada yet and not dropping additional $13K on it that's for sure since it's then locked to the vehicle and I'd have to buy again on next Tesla.
Thanks for your video. I have Model Y 2023 HW3. I purchased Enhanced Auto with my car. I am satisfied with that. I Uupgraded FSD for $100 plus tax. Cant forget about the tax. I used both but prefer FSD because in new driving areas I may be prone to making wrong turns, I feel more relaxed with FSD on long or short drives(since FSD takes full control) and especially at night when you feel tired because FSD is doing almost all of the work (i just supervise :) ) . My experience with Enhance was that it did not exit or change to another highway properly. Maybe it wasnt suppose to do that. Im still learning as well. Will not purchase FSD since Juniper coming around the corner and I cant upgrade to HW4. So maybe in future i upgrade to a newer model. We will see ....
I don’t understand why its 15k for a beta feature. I’ve owned my Y for 7 months now and have 24k miles. I’m fine just using the autosteer. Ill probably try it out for a road trip but i don’t see the point with the cost being so high.
I see the same reasoning, and very pricey, but it is a very complex feature to have the vehicle drive itself. I wished they would use a camera to see if we were alert, instead of grabbing the steering wheel all the time when FSD enabled. But I guess everyone likes that method. If it were used and can make money doing something with using FSD, it might be practical, but just to make You-Tube videos of our FSD trips would not be worth it for me. When I get a Tesla, I will just use the Auto Pilot for my driving to start out with.
I subscribe to full self-driving, did one trip and immediately canceled it the same day. I'm still upset I can't get my money back. Everything about the drive was sketchy. For me, regular autopilot is the sweet spot.
I feel the same way. Had my Model 3 for 4 years now, so quite familiar with it. Started the FSD subscription 3 days ago for a long trip. It’s absolutely horrible and I don’t like it at all. If there are cars behind you, you WILL get honked at numerous times. The lane changes are brilliant and quite stable. They are 99% human-like. And I keep hearing people say FSD acts like a 15-year-old learning. I’ve taught 2 daughters how to drive and they were MUCH better. I literally cussed at it multiple times and just decided to downgrade it to Enhanced after 3 days. I’m just glad I wasted $216 instead of $16,237 (with tax). I was literally in shock that anyone would feel it’s worth $16,237.
Not true. It’s tied now to the owners account so it’s like trading your Tesla where you can transfer it now to a new vehicle. Or that’s what I heard - I’m I wrong? I feel that if someone bought it and they no longer have the car then it should remain with that car - I heard that if your buy a car with FSD that it will be gone once you use your own account. What BS.
I mostly agree with all the opinions expressed here, but I think it's worth emphasizing that most of your FSD beta impressions are no longer relevant on new versions since FSD now replaces the highway stack and is 100% better than EAP, along with major improvements in town. I found navigate on autopilot (Enhanced Autopilot) so annoying for the lane changes you mentioned and jerkiness in traffic that I would stick with regular autopilot and subscribe to FSD when desired/needed or just go all in for FSD as it's really starting to get very good. I recently got another tesla and opted for a one-year-old car with FSD to avoid that 15k hit for it.
Pointing out "just the flaws" is actually the right thing to do, given its safety critical nature. I wonder if they does not know where the lanes end, (should be in the navigation data), and thus makes those strange lane changes.
Full FSD ( all roads in all conditions with no human input other than typing in destination) is still many years away despite what musk has been saying for the last 5 years. Its improving but its nowhere near ready, nowhere near . In my area there are many places with poor signage, misleading junctions and no road marking .
Most of you are completely misunderstanding what FSD will become. A review on a “beta” system is purely ignorant. Beta has already had huge improvements since this video and will continue to improve at a much higher rate now…
Thanks for the great review video on these features. If I decide to get a Tesla vehicle in 2024, Auto pilot sounds good enough for me which I assume it is like a normal Cruise Control. FSD at this time seems a little too scary for me to feel safe in any traffic with it enabled. 15,000 is way too steep a price for me along with actual cost of the Tesla vehicle. Even doing the 200 dollar monthly subscription for FSD is kind of expensive for the kind of driving I would be doing - retired and would just drive around town - do not get on any freeways. The Enhanced Auto Pilot has features I also really don't need for that 6000 price tag, but will re evaluate this option when the time comes. Don't need Auto parking, Sumon the car, etc. I have plenty of time to think about all this before I buy a Tesla vehicle (interested in the model Y long range). Thanks, and take care.
It’s $12K now but it’s absolutely not worth that yet. Even with version 12 that came out which is a significant improvement. I’d say maybe in 1-2 years it will be worth that but I’m sure they’ll raise the price as soon as it gets really good.
I was in the exact same situation, and instead of paying $2000 for Enhanced Autopilot, and worse yet, don't pay $15000 for FSD. Instead do the $200 month subscription for the FSD, you can cancel this anytime and start the subscription anytime.
Hey thanks for your honest review which I find refreshing when a lot of these "FSD" reviews are more promotionals. What I have yet to see is passing on a two lane highway? Have you done that? How about navigate a parking garage or read any signs? Of course it doesn't read hand signals - how bad is it at recognizing emergency vehicles? There is an alternative for most cars - Open Pilot comma 3 which is a 3rd party system currently costs $3000.
Well done, and thanks a lot because I want to buy a Y or Cybertruck; Full self-driving sounds right for me. It's nice to see Southern California again, but it does make me homesick.
I opted for enhanced AP as that takes the work out of the most boring part of driving (highways) and also for the autopark, because I am still useless at parallel parking. As I live in the UK, I don't even think FSD is available and if it was, I don't think it would be able to sensibly handle the sort of situations we get over here with the ridiculously complex junctions, one-way systems, narrow streets and impatient drivers found in most cities.
25:08 So if get the "enhanced autopilot" at 6K then later get the "FSD" at 15K, do you actually pay 15k more or just 9K more because you already pay 6K?
The worry is Tesla will increase the price. If FSD gets a lot better the price is going up, maybe way up. If progress is very slow like we have seen over the last 4 years you could see the price drop even further. They are always adjusting prices on everything. It pays to shop Tesla, and lock in your purchase if you think you are getting a good deal, delay if you think the price is high. I have just ordered the sub $80k model X with the $7500 rebate. Trying to decide if the $12k FSD will pay over the next 10 years of my expected ownership. @@dennisdisaronno7260
I would like to be paid as a beta tester for FSD and not be asked $15,000 for it. Once finished in the future, when people know what they are buying, at that point it would be fair asking money for it
How many years until we have full self driving cars? I don’t drive because I don’t trust myself nor others but I would get a car if the tech is there for 💯 self driving. Maybe in 10 years?
I feel that is a long way off when also having humans still at the wheel. I think the FSD self drive will be safe at some future point in time, but I don't trust the other over aggressive human drivers, even when I have control of the steering wheel. People are always in a big hurry to go no where.
That is the trillion dollar question, predicting technology advances seem to always be way off. My dad drove until he was 90 when the state of California thankfully took his license away. I am 72 and hoping FSD can start filling in for my expected declining driving skills over the next 20 years. would be great for me if "real" self driving shows up in 5-10 years
It’s BETA until the edge cases are resolved. FSD IS LEARNING AND IT NEEDS YOU TO ASSIST and go back over the areas you noticed issues and I bet it will know what to do machineAI Learning. In time you’ll wish you had FSD! I’m all in on my 2022 MY Performance
AP always phantom brakes and brakes hard before every overtake. If AP doesn’t work at a basic level, EAP and FSD won’t either, so I will not be paying to beta test.
6:35 it wants you to go to the left lane because you configured it in the routing app to use HOV lanes. The HOV lane splits off, so to follow it, it needs to be in the lane obviously. Humans 🤦♂
I subscribed to FSD on May 22ns and was automatically enrolled in FSD beta on 2023.12.10. Made a 2K road trip where FSD beta did about 50% of the driving. We are 70 years old and FSD can be brilliant and infuriating. My wife said FSD reminded her of a 15-year-old with a learner's permit. The sexy graphics of FSD beta is pretty cool and can be swiped to the right to fill the entire screen. All the additional visuals are spectacular. Auto Lane Change is brilliant. I trusted it implicitly.
Great video. One of the best I've seen comparing features of the 3 levels. I have EAP and would like to try FSD but have no subscription option in Canada yet and not dropping additional $13K on it that's for sure since it's then locked to the vehicle and I'd have to buy again on next Tesla.
Thanks for your video. I have Model Y 2023 HW3. I purchased Enhanced Auto with my car. I am satisfied with that. I Uupgraded FSD for $100 plus tax. Cant forget about the tax. I used both but prefer FSD because in new driving areas I may be prone to making wrong turns, I feel more relaxed with FSD on long or short drives(since FSD takes full control) and especially at night when you feel tired because FSD is doing almost all of the work (i just supervise :) ) . My experience with Enhance was that it did not exit or change to another highway properly. Maybe it wasnt suppose to do that. Im still learning as well. Will not purchase FSD since Juniper coming around the corner and I cant upgrade to HW4. So maybe in future i upgrade to a newer model. We will see ....
I don’t understand why its 15k for a beta feature. I’ve owned my Y for 7 months now and have 24k miles. I’m fine just using the autosteer. Ill probably try it out for a road trip but i don’t see the point with the cost being so high.
Just one question. Do you drive for a living? 24k miles in seven months?
@@TMartins379 this has to be drive to earn money.
I see the same reasoning, and very pricey, but it is a very complex feature to have the vehicle drive itself. I wished they would use a camera to see if we were alert, instead of grabbing the steering wheel all the time when FSD enabled. But I guess everyone likes that method.
If it were used and can make money doing something with using FSD, it might be practical, but just to make You-Tube videos of our FSD trips would not be worth it for me.
When I get a Tesla, I will just use the Auto Pilot for my driving to start out with.
I subscribe to full self-driving, did one trip and immediately canceled it the same day. I'm still upset I can't get my money back. Everything about the drive was sketchy. For me, regular autopilot is the sweet spot.
I feel the same way. Had my Model 3 for 4 years now, so quite familiar with it. Started the FSD subscription 3 days ago for a long trip. It’s absolutely horrible and I don’t like it at all. If there are cars behind you, you WILL get honked at numerous times.
The lane changes are brilliant and quite stable. They are 99% human-like.
And I keep hearing people say FSD acts like a 15-year-old learning. I’ve taught 2 daughters how to drive and they were MUCH better.
I literally cussed at it multiple times and just decided to downgrade it to Enhanced after 3 days. I’m just glad I wasted $216 instead of $16,237 (with tax). I was literally in shock that anyone would feel it’s worth $16,237.
That technology is called adaptive cruise control and it has been widely used by car manufacturers for years way before tesla was even created.
Finally a video that actually does what it says. Ty for the in depth video on this.
The problem will paying in full, if for any reason, your Tesla got total, you will lose the FSD... for that reason, I would just do subscription..
Not true. It’s tied now to the owners account so it’s like trading your Tesla where you can transfer it now to a new vehicle. Or that’s what I heard - I’m I wrong? I feel that if someone bought it and they no longer have the car then it should remain with that car - I heard that if your buy a car with FSD that it will be gone once you use your own account. What BS.
adaptive cruise control is hardly new, and certainly not unique to Tesla
Great vid B! You deserve MORE subs! 🙌
Do not use Autopilot on the left lane if there are concrete blocks.
I mostly agree with all the opinions expressed here, but I think it's worth emphasizing that most of your FSD beta impressions are no longer relevant on new versions since FSD now replaces the highway stack and is 100% better than EAP, along with major improvements in town. I found navigate on autopilot (Enhanced Autopilot) so annoying for the lane changes you mentioned and jerkiness in traffic that I would stick with regular autopilot and subscribe to FSD when desired/needed or just go all in for FSD as it's really starting to get very good. I recently got another tesla and opted for a one-year-old car with FSD to avoid that 15k hit for it.
Pointing out "just the flaws" is actually the right thing to do, given its safety critical nature. I wonder if they does not know where the lanes end, (should be in the navigation data), and thus makes those strange lane changes.
Full FSD ( all roads in all conditions with no human input other than typing in destination) is still many years away despite what musk has been saying for the last 5 years. Its improving but its nowhere near ready, nowhere near . In my area there are many places with poor signage, misleading junctions and no road marking .
Would love to help on any videos you make in the future. I’m in la mesa!
Most of you are completely misunderstanding what FSD will become. A review on a “beta” system is purely ignorant. Beta has already had huge improvements since this video and will continue to improve at a much higher rate now…
I’ve threw 6k for Enhanced from the beginning and I’m happy I did 🤙🔥 Thanks for the video in my lovely SD
Thanks for the great review video on these features. If I decide to get a Tesla vehicle in 2024, Auto pilot sounds good enough for me which I assume it is like a normal Cruise Control.
FSD at this time seems a little too scary for me to feel safe in any traffic with it enabled. 15,000 is way too steep a price for me along with actual cost of the Tesla vehicle. Even doing the 200 dollar monthly subscription for FSD is kind of expensive for the kind of driving I would be doing - retired and would just drive around town - do not get on any freeways.
The Enhanced Auto Pilot has features I also really don't need for that 6000 price tag, but will re evaluate this option when the time comes. Don't need Auto parking, Sumon the car, etc.
I have plenty of time to think about all this before I buy a Tesla vehicle (interested in the model Y long range). Thanks, and take care.
It’s $12K now but it’s absolutely not worth that yet. Even with version 12 that came out which is a significant improvement. I’d say maybe in 1-2 years it will be worth that but I’m sure they’ll raise the price as soon as it gets really good.
I was in the exact same situation, and instead of paying $2000 for Enhanced Autopilot, and worse yet, don't pay $15000 for FSD. Instead do the $200 month subscription for the FSD, you can cancel this anytime and start the subscription anytime.
Hey thanks for your honest review which I find refreshing when a lot of these "FSD" reviews are more promotionals. What I have yet to see is passing on a two lane highway? Have you done that? How about navigate a parking garage or read any signs? Of course it doesn't read hand signals - how bad is it at recognizing emergency vehicles? There is an alternative for most cars - Open Pilot comma 3 which is a 3rd party system currently costs $3000.
Well done, and thanks a lot because I want to buy a Y or Cybertruck; Full self-driving sounds right for me. It's nice to see Southern California again, but it does make me homesick.
I opted for enhanced AP as that takes the work out of the most boring part of driving (highways) and also for the autopark, because I am still useless at parallel parking. As I live in the UK, I don't even think FSD is available and if it was, I don't think it would be able to sensibly handle the sort of situations we get over here with the ridiculously complex junctions, one-way systems, narrow streets and impatient drivers found in most cities.
It would, just needs the data.. so it would be beta for awhile
The only reason why I keep going into the left lane because it's navigating on autopilot to your destination
25:08 So if get the "enhanced autopilot" at 6K then later get the "FSD" at 15K, do you actually pay 15k more or just 9K more because you already pay 6K?
Better be calling tesla customer service about this just to make sure
You’ll have to add just another 6k to get FSD if you’ve already purchased Enhanced, no worries 🤙
The worry is Tesla will increase the price. If FSD gets a lot better the price is going up, maybe way up. If progress is very slow like we have seen over the last 4 years you could see the price drop even further. They are always adjusting prices on everything. It pays to shop Tesla, and lock in your purchase if you think you are getting a good deal, delay if you think the price is high. I have just ordered the sub $80k model X with the $7500 rebate. Trying to decide if the $12k FSD will pay over the next 10 years of my expected ownership. @@dennisdisaronno7260
"from bumping into the car in front of you" Toyota Corolla Adaptive cruise control does that 😂😂😂😂😂
Fifteen THOUSAND dollars, for something that can do, BY YOURSELF, for FREE!
Well, if you have all that money to waste, go right ahead. 😕
My man for sure in San Diego lol. I thought I noticed SDSU lol.
I would like to be paid as a beta tester for FSD and not be asked $15,000 for it. Once finished in the future, when people know what they are buying, at that point it would be fair asking money for it
Subaru had adaptive cruise control in 2013.
How many years until we have full self driving cars?
I don’t drive because I don’t trust myself nor others but I would get a car if the tech is there for 💯 self driving.
Maybe in 10 years?
I feel that is a long way off when also having humans still at the wheel. I think the FSD self drive will be safe at some future point in time, but I don't trust the other over aggressive human drivers, even when I have control of the steering wheel. People are always in a big hurry to go no where.
That is the trillion dollar question, predicting technology advances seem to always be way off. My dad drove until he was 90 when the state of California thankfully took his license away. I am 72 and hoping FSD can start filling in for my expected declining driving skills over the next 20 years. would be great for me if "real" self driving shows up in 5-10 years
id much rather have phantom breaking and the car is nervous than the car thinking its in a fast and furious movie when it doesnt have the capability
FSD is $15,000, I think it would be better if you bought no extra autopilot and only go for the subscription, it would take 6+ years to break even
do you need put the hand on the wheels when you driving FSD ?
Let Jesus take the wheel 😂
I would still keep 150 USD per month driver here in India.
It’s BETA until the edge cases are resolved. FSD IS LEARNING AND IT NEEDS YOU TO ASSIST and go back over the areas you noticed issues and I bet it will know what to do machineAI Learning. In time you’ll wish you had FSD! I’m all in on my 2022 MY Performance
So you’re paying Tesla to help it learn.
AP always phantom brakes and brakes hard before every overtake. If AP doesn’t work at a basic level, EAP and FSD won’t either, so I will not be paying to beta test.
I have enhanced autopilot, but I cannot find the summon button on my app. How do I do this?
It's not 15k. Why are you spreading misinformation?
When this video was made Full Self driving (sic) was $15,000. Now it is $12,000.
Thank you!
What year is your tesla?
If there's cars near your car as you make a turn more sensors would be activated right? Would that keep you centered?
6:35 it wants you to go to the left lane because you configured it in the routing app to use HOV lanes. The HOV lane splits off, so to follow it, it needs to be in the lane obviously.
Humans 🤦♂
Thanks, I wondered how FSD handled HOV. Viewed a lot of FSD/EAP videos, you are the first person to tell me they have an HOV setting.
@@bmiles1232 you're welcome (:
So how would you feel if you didn’t do a lot of highway driving. Would you still get enhanced? I’m getting a three next month and still on the fence.
How did it go?
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Seems like a complete mess.
If you feel intimidated just say that
Never seen anyone hate the fast lane more than this guy lmao.
Good video
Not even worth $12000. 8k I might consider. 4k will be no great .
Thanks for sharing
Enchanted auto pilot is the best option
Too much complaining dude
Get enhanced poilet
You are an American? Aren't you? Why are you using Metrics?