I am already happy with my Genelec’s and Iloud MTM’s hahahaha. Took me years to make my Room sound the same somewhere between my Sennheiser HD800S and HD600, but to me its an awesome achievement and i can switch to room and headphones without needing to adapt my ears as its truly similar sounding besides Crossfade effect with speakers. Those Ex Machina Pulsars and equally excellent speakers only work out in near perfect Rooms, so wont work in my Room at all. Cheers
If you cant build speakers, looking past genelecs is unnecessary because they are the best. I wish people would just take that advice. Pro audio speakers are such garb for the price. Barefoots? Ew, hypex modules and mystery drivers are great, but not worth an arm and a leg, especially when you can build it yourself. Genelecs win on shape, wave guides and plenty of other features(im serious, digital crossovers, room tuning[not phase though])
Thanks for the video, are you using the quasars with a sub for mastering? How’s the 35hz roll off? I master mostly dance music and was looking at D&D 8c for that 20hz floor - can you hear that extension without subs on the quasars?
@finncooney7449 we are now using Ex Machina Arcturus. They have 2x 14" subs. With the pulsars you don't need a sub. They are 3 way speakers and don't need to be run with the sub. The sub on the pulsar extends low enough down to 28hz.
Really enjoy the 'What would you recommend' series. If your Atmos room is PMC Ci series, which you do not recommend for Stereo Mastering, and you're using Ex Machina for Stereo Mastering, what (if any) is the process for mastering Atmos mixes for streaming services? Is there a 'mastering' stage for Atmos for post production broadcast and film?
To master atmos it is more of a mix than a master of a mix. You technically don't have a physical mix bus as is a 128 channel mix bus. So the master is more of an atmos print or render to a file rather than apply additional processing of the mix. There are guidelines for this that have to be met. The ci series are brilliant in stereo but if I was spending 8k on a pair of speakers I wouldn't pay £8k just the ci 140s and would rather get the ex machina pulsars. The ci series you'll also need 2 subs and an amp which pushes the price up to £16k for a good stereo pair of ci 140s and subs. That's mainly why I suggest not getting ci 140s for mastering.
Do you provide separate masters for streaming services? Do you bother with the whole -14Luf goal or do you simply master songs and let the streaming platforms reduce volume?
Yes all masters are supplied with a streaming master. This has a -1db true peak and more overall headroom. This is all that is required for a streaming platform and will ultimately remove any ISP.
I have the 8Cs and they also smoked the genelec 8361bs in a side-by-side in my room, having done the room adaptation for both sets. Didn’t get a chance to try the kiis but very happy with Dutch & Dutch
@@AudioAnimalsStudio haha good one mate! Meant that I’ve seen them plenty in mixing studios. Just not as much in mastering rooms. I’m sure they do the job just fine tho!
I think the newer genelec 8361s are in my headlights. Torn between them and barefoot. I'll check out the ex machinas
If you can directly compare them in the same room it'll be quite an eye opening experience.
I am already happy with my Genelec’s and Iloud MTM’s hahahaha. Took me years to make my Room sound the same somewhere between my Sennheiser HD800S and HD600, but to me its an awesome achievement and i can switch to room and headphones without needing to adapt my ears as its truly similar sounding besides Crossfade effect with speakers. Those Ex Machina Pulsars and equally excellent speakers only work out in near perfect Rooms, so wont work in my Room at all. Cheers
If you cant build speakers, looking past genelecs is unnecessary because they are the best. I wish people would just take that advice.
Pro audio speakers are such garb for the price. Barefoots? Ew, hypex modules and mystery drivers are great, but not worth an arm and a leg, especially when you can build it yourself. Genelecs win on shape, wave guides and plenty of other features(im serious, digital crossovers, room tuning[not phase though])
Thanks for the video, are you using the quasars with a sub for mastering? How’s the 35hz roll off? I master mostly dance music and was looking at D&D 8c for that 20hz floor - can you hear that extension without subs on the quasars?
@finncooney7449 we are now using Ex Machina Arcturus. They have 2x 14" subs. With the pulsars you don't need a sub. They are 3 way speakers and don't need to be run with the sub. The sub on the pulsar extends low enough down to 28hz.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio brilliant thanks so much for getting back to me!
When you had the ATC scm20asl, did you use with a sub?
Really enjoy the 'What would you recommend' series. If your Atmos room is PMC Ci series, which you do not recommend for Stereo Mastering, and you're using Ex Machina for Stereo Mastering, what (if any) is the process for mastering Atmos mixes for streaming services? Is there a 'mastering' stage for Atmos for post production broadcast and film?
To master atmos it is more of a mix than a master of a mix. You technically don't have a physical mix bus as is a 128 channel mix bus. So the master is more of an atmos print or render to a file rather than apply additional processing of the mix. There are guidelines for this that have to be met. The ci series are brilliant in stereo but if I was spending 8k on a pair of speakers I wouldn't pay £8k just the ci 140s and would rather get the ex machina pulsars. The ci series you'll also need 2 subs and an amp which pushes the price up to £16k for a good stereo pair of ci 140s and subs. That's mainly why I suggest not getting ci 140s for mastering.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thank you. Very informative and informative as always. What amps are you using for your Ci speakers?
@@marklholloway I have two Martin Logan amps
Do you provide separate masters for streaming services? Do you bother with the whole -14Luf goal or do you simply master songs and let the streaming platforms reduce volume?
Yes all masters are supplied with a streaming master. This has a -1db true peak and more overall headroom. This is all that is required for a streaming platform and will ultimately remove any ISP.
Did you compare them to Kii Audios and Dutch & Dutch 8C? Genelec 8351B ?
Thanks for your videos and share of experience!
Compared to genelecs and the Ex Machinas were night and day better in blind tests.
I have the 8Cs and they also smoked the genelec 8361bs in a side-by-side in my room, having done the room adaptation for both sets. Didn’t get a chance to try the kiis but very happy with Dutch & Dutch
Really only know of one other mastering engineer using quasars. Most are more into the boutique world (stuff you won’t find on Sweetwater)
@@theoquayle83 you don't get much more boutique than 2 mastering engineers.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio haha good one mate! Meant that I’ve seen them plenty in mixing studios. Just not as much in mastering rooms. I’m sure they do the job just fine tho!