Thanks for the great feedback! Here are some CLARIFICATION & CORRECTIONS as highlighted in the comments: 1. The value of 76.12 billion euros is based on Germany's GDP in 2020 (2% of 3.8 trillion). For 2021 it would be even more (2% of 4.2 trillion) , meaning military spend would be 84.4 billion. As for 2022, if GDP continues to grow it would be even more. I use the world Bank & SIPRI as my main source and the 2021 data has not been released yet (time of recording). Therefore, I used the 2020 value for this video and 1:39 I should have said 2020 (not 2021). 2. The "special fund" is complementary to the 2% goal. It should be enough to meet the 2% target for the next 3.5 years until the next election. However, over the next 5 years, more than 151 billion euros (see sources in description) will be needed to meet the pledge, and the fund will run out. Unless dropping below 2% again, there would have to be an increase in defence spending by changing the fiscal plan or by other means. 3. Should have included Frigates in the military comparison. Germany has 12, UK has 12, France & Russia have 11. 6 of the German Frigates can be compared to Destroyers due high tonnage and strong armaments. 4. Pictures & Animations: Yes, I have used non-German military footage as it is a struggle to find copyright free images. If anyone has a good source then I am all ears. As for G36, there are actually plenty of copyright free images, so I should have used actual footage.. Next time :) Please check out the sources (in the description) for more detail on all these numbers Thanks for the great engagement
There is a minor error: Germany has no destroyers, but the Frigates of the Brandenburg and Sachsen classes have very high tonnage in comparison to regular frigates and accordingly very strong armaments, similar to common destroyers of other nations. So Germany would have 7 "Destroyers" Also the Bundeswehr has not a problem with to low funding, but major problems with major overspending on procurement contracts and not buying spareparts in large enough quantities etc. This is primarily due to a flawed procurement process and insufficient controls and checks by the parliament on procurements.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Thanks for the feedback. I have seen this topic throughout the comments a couple times. I should have inlcuded the Frigates numbers in the military overview (UK, France and Russia have 12, 11 and 11 frigates respectively). As for the funding issue, I have read about this to and could dedicate a video to solely this topic. There has been a lot of procurement mismanagement over the years.
You made a mistake, the "special fund" is for the next 3 1/2 years (until the next election) to meet and exceed the 2% mark, there's no increase in regular defense spending for the current fiscal plan until 2026 written down.
@@xela6349 Hi, there has been a lot of confusion over this in a lot of the news out there. This article explains it really well: www.sipri.org/commentary/blog/2022/explainer-proposed-hike-german-military-spending Indeed the "special fund" is complementary to the 2% goal. Over the next 5 years, Scholz will need 151 billion euros to meet the pledge, therefore the special fund is not enough. Unless dropping below 2% again, there would have to be an increase in defense spending by changing the fiscal plan or by other means. Thanks for letting me know and I have updated my sticky post.
@@EUMadeSimple The next german federal Election (and thus new Government) is due in 3 1/2 years. With the 100b€ this is covered with ease. Its typical conservative, neoliberal, politics. (the SPD is centrist but the SPD faction providing ministers and chancellor are all center right, as this faction has a majority inside the party. they stand for neoliberal and more conservative politics akin to Merkels government policies. The FDP is also a major blocking factor, as their head of party, Christian Lindner, is minister of finance and he drags down/blocks alot of really neccesary legislation)
That statemeant is simply so far from reality it got me laughing as well. People think Germany was a hippy paradise during the cold war and not the most militarized place on the planet with the 2 biggest non USA/USSR armies in europe facing each other beeing german. I mean during the hight of the cold war both germanys combined had nearly 1 million active soldiers under arms within the modern borders of germany. It was a very big discussion point during reunification because that made germany over night the 3 biggest military on the planet.
@@noobster4779 So large in fact that the Allies/Soviets stipulated we had to reduce the size of the military in the 3+1 contract. This currently planned expansion could actually be seen in some ways as the last steps towards actual german autonomy.
Because Germans were defeated in ww2, Germans being lead by a semite "Schultz" and their people are neutered and mixed out working as globalist marketplace, the concept of Germans is false as compared to a united people
German standards for what is considered "functional" are different. By most country's standards, that stuff is perfectly fine. I mean Germans consider something not ready, if a scheduled oil change is 10 days late ... it's all quite a bit exaggerated.
Hush! It's not exaggerated, it's strategy. If the enemy believes that Germany is no real hazard, it's easier to catch him unprepared and overwhelm him.
From an German officer, most of our equipment is combat ready according to foreign standards. The problem are the German standards defining what is ready and what isn't. If an tank didn't pass an regular inspection because the left tail light is broken or it is slightly too heavy, it is put out of service and does not have driving allowance anymore, and it takes months to get the small problems fixed because of bureaucracy and then the inspector has to come to give the ok again which as well takes months to get an appointment. We have to quit those ridiculous civilian vehicle standards, which are also quite overly strict in Germany. If you have an slight too dark tint, or custom led headlight you lose your driving allowance..
The Russians should only attack Germany, when all inspections of the german tanks are done! Someone has to say this to putin, he will definitely understand🤣
Well I guess if the proverbial poopoo hits the fan, just chuck the inspector at the enemy. In all seriousness though, when defending your homeland, I guess nobody is going to care about it having a broken brake light.
I know someone who served for years in the German Bundeswehr. He told me some of those tanks are termed "not combat ready" for having minor issues that are relevant for civil traffic use. :P
I was a german Panzermann. The person you know is right. They are mostly combat ready but, i mean... this is germany, can´t have shit without proper insurance. When shit hits the fan, this Panzers will be ready to whoop some ass
Poland recently went on a arms buying spree as well. If the plans were to be completed (its assumed they are overblown and will get scaled down post-election) PL would have probably the strongest land army in EU. Or at least in top 3.
Nah, Poland has nothing to fear from us. Actually, we could be the best of friends, if the PIS under Kaczyński had not made it's life's goal to blame Germany for every problems in Poland and to make new ridiculously high reparation demands every year.
Germany does indeed have 7 destroyers. The German Navy just doesn't use the word destroyers and also calls them frigates. Frigates are usually around 3,000 tons in weight. These German ships are in the 6,000 to 7,000 tons range.
Well, that follows German naval tradition of WW2. German destroyers built by the Nazis were twice the size of most contemporary British destroyers. Personally, I don't like the word 'destroyer' either. IMO, all 'destroyers' should be redesignated as 'cruisers'. Since the role (and tonnage) of a modern destroyer is very much like a 1930's light cruiser, and not much like a 1930's destroyer.
Germany uses the term frigate because their "big" ships are in fact frigates and not destroyers. It's not the size but the function that make the term. Btw. there are several other navies who got frigates in a similar size, that's not a German thing. And if Germany had destroyers the would call them destroyers. They did so until they retired their last class of destroyers (Lütjens class) in 2003.
As a German, i think one of the biggest Problems of our Army is, that we have not the right Persons in charge and to mutch Bureaucracy. And the Bundeswehr does not have enough Recognition among the People. But thats my Opinion.
Damit das ganze den erwünschten Erfolg hat muss die Bundeswehr komplett umgekrempelt werden. 20 Jahre Misswirtschaft und Inkompetenz wird von einer Sabine Lambrecht garantiert nicht ausgebügelt werden, eher im Gegenteil. Man muss sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen, dass wir gerade mal 10 Milliarden weniger in unsere Armee stecken als Russland. Nach der Logik müssten wir schon ne ziemlich schlagkräftige Truppe haben. Nur landet das Geld nicht mal ansatzweise da wo es hin soll. Ich wüsste nicht was 100 Milliarden extra da wieder gut machen sollen.
Traurig aber absolut Wahr! Das Soldaten wie Mörder hier in Deutschland behandelt werden ist absolut unterste Schublade und auch die Auflösung vom KSK war einfach nur absolut Grenzdibil
As a European, im comfortable with Germany getting back to being a superpower again. They are already economically, but with a better army they will be even more. Its time for the EU to also be a force to be reckoned with.
I wonder if "not operational" in German context means something completely different. There was once a European study about schools. Every Nation send its outcomes and germany sucked big time in this study. However later they found we Germans simply followed the rules 110%, while other Nations where more "generous" in their research determination.
No, it literally means none of it works. Mostly because the beurocrats never gave a shit about it, also because as soon as you try to do anything positive for the army, you get the mouth-breathers from the greens and the left (yes, thats the actual name of a political party.) calling you a nazi and thus destroying any kind of hope for a proper discussion.
@@sualtam9509 Finland sets priorities on its youth👍. In Germany only Car Manufacturers where allowed to skip or even cheat Tests in the past....especially environmental test 😂.
Our standards for what is and isn't "combat ready" are almost absurdley high in comparison to other armies. By almost any other standard, our army is absolutley combat ready! As mentioned in other posts, a tank e.g. can be pulled out of serrvice simply for the reason that it's oil wasn't changed on the due date or it coloring is to faded to match "Nato standard".
Of course! We can't use tanks whose coloring starts to vanish. It might be seen driving on the road! - Can't have that. Besides...everyone knows missing paint makes it impossible for the engine to work at all, duh 🤪
you guys showed up at a NATO exercise with no machine guns,no ammo,not enough food AND you were useing unsecured cellphones to direct troops..dont give me that shit about being combat ready..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelcraig58 Could you provide a source for that? Honest question. I cannot find a source, online or personally (I have friends and family serving within the Bundeswehr and US army, who can support that claim).
@@jayanthony3006 all a strategy to make us seem weak! and then we will present 500 new german main high tech KF51 Panther Battle Tanks ready for action XD!
The problem is, that the German military already has got a lot of budget, but the money is just vanishing without impact. The reason is, that there is a parallel structure within the Bundeswehr (the Inspectors and the normal officers). Those structures are constantly just interfering and decisions are taking ages….
The german Bundeswehr is combatready. The Media pretends to be Not but in fast were good to go. Watch The official channel how we Do in Mali. This is way too overpowered. But in we talk anout russia and China, well never be alle to reach These Standards. No matter how much we invest
@@kerimschluter2046 Well, the problem is, that it isn’t really ready. According to a new report, the German army has got ammunition for 3 days and 1 division (I believe) ready to fight. Given the enormous amounts of money invested already, it should, it has to be more. So I think that before you just put more and more money into it, you have to change the structures. And of course, if you compare the enemies (in Mali the terrorists and now Russia), the Bundeswehr seems to be more ready against one than the other.
@@severussnape8260 that is a complete lie. There is no Battle where u can foretell how much ammunition you need. And if u just watch the Arsenal u can Tell this is just dumb. This has to be the craziest war eher seen to deploy everything . Sinne we invested 12 Mrd into the Afghanistan war and the us invested 3 Billion u can Tell we managed real good .
"Even with germany's new budget it remains a small player as it spends way too little. And this really raises the question: does an EU army makes sense"
I mean does Germany really want an European force? The answer is no, as emphasized by the failure of French-German joint defense programmes - because of the Germans - as well as their will to buy American equipment instead
On paper that is great - In reality who answers to who? PArt of the UK voting Brexit was because a lot of people did not want the British millitary answering to a foreign entity - which looked to be the unelected EU comission. Not only is the potential for abuse catastrophic, but even in the best case scenario you will have foriegn nationals sending your soldiers to die over their own. It just won't work. And even if it did, even if all these little flaws were ironed out and the EU 'somehow' makes it work, what is the endgame? Now you have nations like switzerland and Austria - neutral nations - who can be sent into war that they want no part of. This is in addition to the issue of conflict with NATO. How does that work with some members being in the EU but not NATO? Like Ireland? What happens on an Article 5 trigger and non NATO nations are pulled into a conflict for an organisation they aren't part of because the EU bloc is bound to act? The who idea is one big mess, there are far too much overlap, far too many hurdles and much to much disorganisation for any potential benefit to be worth it. MAYBE if NATO didn't exist, it MIGHT work. But as it stands, no. It just wouldn't. It would cause too many headaches for too little payoff.
@@Whoami691 EU army should never be made to be used in any offence to begin with. We are in 2022. We are not savages that murder. Imperialism is not something to be proud of today.
@@Whoami691 I know this will never happen (since it's costly and the populace would resist) but conscription in all EU countries could fix it. That way countries could use their own manpower but borrow equipment. Operations overseas should use volunteers of course.
What I think is very important, which perhaps should have been mentioned, is that Germany doesn't need a large navy because we have a relatively small coast. What makes more sense is to have a large army and a large air force.
this depends on whether Germany will continue to rely on other countries to protect its trading links with the non-European world. I don’t think they will.
That’s the dumbest comment I have read today. You have absolutely no clue and just want to take part in that conversation by spreading false information. German Navy was on the key factors in the Second World War for Germany. Let alone the strength of the submarines that cut off resupply chains and heavily attacked the east coast causing big chaos and fear…
In WW2, German infantry was spectacular, if Germany focuses on Infantry, logistics, heavy transports, AWAC’s, and a few frigates and destroyers. it would fantastic for NATO. Germany, UK and France would be able to do missions anywhere on the planet without relying on the US, especially as the UK and to a lesser degree France has bases all over the world.
Olaf Scholz's grandfather, Fritz Scholz, an SS officer. He took part in the battles as part of the Army Group "South" for Tarnopol in Galicia at the end of June 1941. He led the "Nordland" regiment in the battles along the Dnieper River in Dnepropetrovsk. In October 1941, von Solz was promoted to SS-Oberführer and ended the year in fierce fighting for Rostov-on-Don. In December, the division was ordered to leave Rostov and retreat to the Mius River line. A year later, in December 1942, von Solz was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General, and from May 1943 he commanded the 11th SS Nordland Voluntary Motorized Division (by Norwegian and Danish volunteers) Since December 1943, the 11th SS Division has been fighting near Leningrad, since March 1944 - in the Narva region. In March, von Solz was awarded the Oak Leaves (No. 423). On July 27, 1944, von Solz was wounded in the head by a fragment of a shell in the battle near Narva and died the next day. skeletons of the past have come to the surface.Solz reveals more and more evidence that his grandfather's Nazi blood awakens the monster inside him.I will say 200 billion for military equipment, let's not forget who the Germans are. The wolf if he puts sheep fur remains a wolf
@Michael N Do not confuse different things. How would it seem to you if Hitler had descendants and one of his grandsons was the president of Germany? The Germans do not change they were and will be chauvinists. You probably do not know history. Biomes and ideologies are passed from one parent to his child. You will find out when the Germans with 200 billion will make an army that everyone will start thinking.I'm very afraid that they will also acquire nuclear weapons.Better to see in the long run and not have illusions about the Germans. The wolf and to put sheep fur remains a wolf
Let's took a Pray n wish it Not Germany or Germanic peoples again who caused the Warfare... 😀☺️ Remember the Protestanism vs Catholic and Two World wars' back in the days
You forgot to take into account how well the German industry could switch to war production. If the russians are at our footstep, Germany would be able to produce massive amounts of hardware in a short amount of time.
How? No gas oil or coal, German industry would grind to a halt in days. Merkel made sure that Germany would be reliant on Russia energy just to improve their green agenda.
that was never Germany's strong point. Producing weapons of war in a short amount of time is a Russian thing. NOT German. Prime example. German tanks vs soviet tanks ww2. The german tanks were superior yet got overwhelmed by soviet production. That was back when Germany had the drive to take over the world. Now that they have been sitting around for 30 years I dont see Germany being a powerhouse of production in your scenario.
As an American Army veteran who served in Karlsruhe FRG in the mid and late 80s; I’m personally glad to see our German allies and brethren raise their defence spending. A strong Germany and Europe are in the best interest of the U.S. and the world.
There are those in the USA who for the better part of this and the past decade tried to go against the very same thing you are saying. Seeing europe as a competitor economicly and militarily. Only now with russia again trying to rise, these voices became rather quiet. I would imagine that won't stay this way for too long.
Nonsense. No one gives a fuck to attack us. Such weapons will only be used to mass murder world wide for profit. Of course you can say that is in the interest of the USA who is the master of this world wide mass murder, but for sure not in the interest of the world.
i like the fact that the missinformation about the g36 is still a thing these days ... G36 is a rly good rifle. The "problem" about not shooting staight accured during a 12h (maybe more) firefight in Afghanistan. Every AR15 or AK platform rifle would suffer the same problems, not only "would" they actually do suffer from the same. The Eurofighter is "one" of the modern fighters we have, it has so much tech in it, only 1 Error Message on the Systems and its considered not "ready" to use/fight. Im glad to see that we spent more money on the Bundeswehr now, but keep hearing that stupid arguments about the G36 is annoying. Every gun would lose accuracy under hot weather conditions and 12h+ firefight.
The thing is you are actually wrong too - the issue with the g36 is not only from excessively long fights. The issue was recreated in the lab here in Germany. The issue was cheap ammunition that did not meet the basic requirements for the gun causing it to heat up excessively
@@mariobauer73 As mentioned in the description, I don't use actual footage as a lot of it is copyrighted. As for the G36, just checked and there is plenty of copyright free footage. So I could have done better there - ill take it into consideration for my next video. Thanks for pointing it out.
@@nnnik3595 Wasn't there something with the American M16 when it was introduced in Vietnam, wrong powder in the ammunition and therefore high losses due to jamming? But I'm glad that the G36 were still able to shoot in Afghanistan ;-)
In Afghanistan Vehicles weren't "operational" when TÜV (inspection) was overdue... so German Soldiers weren't allowed to use them due to insurance reasons... So we lend them to other nations, wich had noch problem using them... ;) If shit gets serious, most of the stuff will be operational... magically... ;) We are great in overthinking stuff if nothing is on the line, wich sometimes leads to stuff others just have to shake their heads to but if it get's serious, german pragmatism kicks in and sh... hits the fan ...^^
"n Afghanistan Vehicles weren't "operational" when TÜV (inspection) was overdue... so German Soldiers weren't allowed to use them due to insurance reasons" This is the most german thing i will hear this week. XD Your point on pragmatism is absoultely true, however. Once there is a catalyst to clear away (badly designed and bureaucratic) processes and (inexplicably useless over engineered) flows, German attention to detail, desire to perform well in the eyes of their peers and do their part, and the infallable german pragmatism assert themselves. I am very happy to hear scholz's decision and hope very much the Bundeswehr gets it (mostly) right and modernizes. Europe needs a strong Germany in all ways.
The most war ready army aka strongest army in Europe is Turkish army by very far, then comes French and British armies!! While German army is quite down in the list, some ''experts'' act like it is all about spending but in reality it isn't at all. It is about EVERYTHING from training to spending and most importantly experience. Turkish army has the most experience by far as it has been operating in many different countries from Libya to Syria and Somalia and actually engaging in not just assymetric warfare against militants with thousands of atgms also even Russian forces directly!! And this is the reason why their drones are so effective as they experienced what Russian systems could do including EW and further developed their drones. Germany with it's mighty industry can catch up quite easily but it requires more efforts than simply increasing budget. They need to come down to the ground and engage against enemies like Turkey does for years but ofc i really doubt it could happen while most of the west are still crying as ''we can't start WW3''. Turkey destroyed literally HUNDREDS of Russian vehicles but somehow WW3 didn't begin!! Russia doesn't want to start WW3 as much as we do so this can't be an excuse to give them a free hand everywhere...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Sorry that i have to disagree on that but the only thing the turkish army ist Best, is on how NOT to operate a tank properly... ok, the Russians seem to bee much worse as we see right know. :D The french and british are by faaaaaar more experienced in every military aspect. The turkish Drones are a good midfield option that has good price / performance Ratio but there are a lot of other Drones that would do exactly the same Damage to the russian Tanks. The reason that they are prominent right know is the pure fact, that they are cheap enough so ukraine could afford them... not because they are one of a kind. Sorry but yout comment seems a little bit "patriotic". ;)
@@m0ng0b0t Nope, im not patriotic at all rather you have no idea about military engagements! For example you claim Turkish army doesn't know how to operate tanks because of their only 20 tanks were damaged in Syria but care to share how many American tanks were damaged in Iraq because of atgms, ieds etc?? Literally HUNDREDS!! Because western media didn't share their photos and footages constantly you jokes know it as US didn't loose many tanks in Iraq or Afghanistan etc but in reality they did and you can reduce your ignorance a little bit by searching their photos or footages ;)
I live in Europe. Im completely fine with Germany as superpower. We need a strong Europe to "survive" in the world with the big boys. Germany can change that as new superpower in Europe or as leader. I hope Germany gets the respect they deserve. Times who Germany conquered others is over, so they don't invade other countries (anymore) but will protect Europa for a strong and stable EU.
The thing is Navies are no longer a necessity in Europe. The reason everyone downsized navies post-WWII stems from two reasons. A: Colonies were becoming independent and no longer needed to be protected by a large fleet. B: Ships are expensive to build and upkeep. If Germany wanted to they could build a large navy. The thing is they don't need it. Compared to other nations their coastline is very small, especially after their partitions in the 1900s. Coastal defense is pretty much all their navy is meant for, which means having a carrier is unnecessary. Carriers are meant to project naval dominance to distant regions nowadays, and Germany simply doesn't need to do that. At most they'll probably build a Landing Helicopter Dock or Landing Helicopter Assault ship and call it a day.
@@hx20games77 But not the kind that uses aircraft carriers. At least not for Germany. I see us fighting pirates or blockade a harbour to enforce an embargo. The ability to project air superiority far from Germany is far too expensive.
@@joshhoep9777 It's debateable if the names had that much to do the Nazi party for most of these ships. Especially as a lot of the Kriegsmarine's ships were planned/built before 33. Graf Zeppelin is just pretty popular in many contemporary videogames for example. Look at World of Warships or the ton of Gacha games.
well, all the numbers are correct. But you have to keep on mind, if 50% of all equipment is not working correctly that means something very different in Germany compared to russia. A helicopter whos paint job is not flawless is probably grounded in Germany. Because it has to be perfect. -_-
No true, half the radio equipment is not only outdated from the 1980´s but just does not work, so soldiers have to buy their own shit. Same goes for clothing and other sutff. The inefficiency is just staggering. BW ist just like any other German buracracy branch xD
@@lhuras. So why then say no ? It is this mentality which is a problem. The German army is exactly the type of people you never finished the Berlin airport.
Based on my experience in the business world, I think one of the first things to do is stop spending money on consultants. The only thing they actually know how to do is run up their fees.
yes.. there are occupations that exist because they self perpetuate and create a need for themselves when a bureaucracy is not managed well they have an incentive to keep their job after all, so they will do everything to keep and create the need for themselves as it is
As a german i can only say that the most germans doesnt even want to fight or help ukraine... the politicans says and want that, but not the whole country
The 100bn Euros is meant to boost defence spending to above 2 percent of GDP, it's not the one-off fund that everyone expected. Also, all of the Euro and Dollar comparisons should really be at purchasing-power-parity. Third, the German Army will declare a vehicle not operational if an indicator light doesn't work. German standards are higher than those in much of the rest of the world.
@@EUMadeSimple I wanna add to this that chancellor Scholz and president Steinmeier made it constitutional law that our spending has to be at a minimum of 2% starting with the one-off funding of €100bn.
@@hansmuller1846 I don't think you are aware of how politics work in germany. Any law proposed has to be approved by the president. If the chancellor decides on a law that is to be made constitutional and gets approved by the president then it's pretty much both of the making a new law. Besides that, the president holds the power to create and approve any law he desires without talking to the Bundestag, since he is still the reigning entity, just because he doesn't do it doesn't mean he can't do it. What a jester you are.
@@benanjerris6744 The Bundestag has to approve every law before the Bundespräsident can sign anything. The Bundeskanzler can‘t make laws by his own, but he can propose them to the Bundestag.
France and the UK have islands and territories all around the world, obviously they have way more of a need for a navy capable of power projection (e.g. Falklands War) than Germany. The German island the furthest away is Heligoland which is roughly 43 miles away from the German coast and thus obviously within range of helicopters and fighter jets from the main land. There’s basically also not much of a differentiation between destroyers and frigates, for example the three German Sachsen class frigates replaced the three old German Lütjens class destroyers. The Sachsen class is basically in every regard more capable and also larger than the destroyers it replaced, yet of course it means that Germany has 0 destroyers as it calls all of its larger surface combatants frigates. The focus of the German Navy during the Cold War was also primarily littoral combat, the most obvious job for the German Navy in a war would have been to blockade the Soviet Baltic Fleet and the other navies of the Warsaw Pact. West Germany had around 40 fast attack crafts and 70 minehunters (which of course can also lay mines), as well as more than 20 attack submarines for operations in the Baltic Sea. Some frigates and destroyers were also available mainly for escort duties in the Atlantic. With the end of the Cold War the focus of course shifted somewhat towards peacekeeping (e.g. UNIFIL off the coast of Lebanon) and anti-piracy operations (e.g. Somalia), which is why the four F125 class frigates are huge (and can operate far away for up to two years before they have to return for maintenance) but not very well armed for conventional warfare. The role of the fast attack crafts was basically taken over by corvettes of which Germany has currently 5 in service and 5 more got ordered in 2017 and will enter service in the next years. The major surface combatants will thus be frigates and corvettes.
Yeah well sure America wouldn't mind letting Germans make a military base on some territory/island they own just more protection then. America has bases in other countries too.
The F125 class frigates are armed multi-purpose transport ships more than warships. Anyhow, the whole German system of the military being civil servants in uniform is stupid and useless. It's not a proper military, it's just a bureaucratic mess, with no clear purpose. Germany has been castrated after ww2, they should get rid of the military and pay that 2% to the Americans , so they can keep their bases and protect Germany.
Umm, just for clarification: The German Grundgesetz, the German constitution, actually forbade ANY German military operations outside German territory unless demanded by an ally as part of the NATO defensive clause, or other similar international bilateral contracts. This applied ESPECIALLY to any kind of aggressive operation launched by any of the participants. No more aggressive military action was to have its origin from German territory ever again, as defined by our constitution. Germany's army was to be ONLY a defensive army, not meant to project force outside its borders. The only exception of German military participation outside German territory was if German military units were part of a mixed UN peace-keeping force. Thus the participation among military operations such as in Afghanistan and Iraq were not only highly controversial in Germany, but literally broke our constitution as neither had either a NATO mandate nor was it part of a defensive contract. As so few people actually knew this it is crucical to understand the constant reduction of German military power. Claims that Germany was slacking behind came from those two significant stipulations in our constitution, not from our inability or unwillingness to participate. These stipulations were part and parcel of the requirement in the changes to the Grundgesetz that were discussed in the 1950's among the three western Allied powers that allowed West Germany ANY rearmament at all, under the NATO pact. Until then West Germany simply had not been allowed ANY military forces. None At All! Period. These stipulations were accepted among West Germany's population as necessary to keep the peace, and especially any European powers from becoming nervous at a rearmed Germany. Germany strictly kept to these stipulations and talked about its military with its NATO allies each and every time. Reducing its military was done in FULL cooperation with other NATO allies during the 1990's and 2000's. So to now frown at Germany when we try to stick to our constitution as it was handed to us by the powers that be is quite hypocritical, don't you think? Yes, there was a NATO contract that stipulated an increase of military budgetary spending to 2% of GDP, but that had its final target of 2% by 2024. That's something that Trump simply failed to recognized when he always harped about Germany failing to 'pay it's NATO dues'. First off, there NEVER were payments to NATO. Never. Not by a single nation. Ever. Second: the target of 2% was a final target to be reached by 2024. Not before. That the USA always reached it is part of the military-governmental cooperation but had nothing to do with other nations. How other nations were supposed to reach those targets, and when, was not described in the contract, except the final year of 2024. What is always ignored is that the rental costs of multiple US bases in Germany are simply foisted off on Germany, but not considered as part of the military spending of Germany. If those had been taken in as lost revenue for Germany, then Germany would have easily been above the 2% target since the late 1950's. Just to consider those numbers, for a change. Now, Germany will not only reach that target in 2022, but it will have increased its spending to roughly 3% of its GDP, and it will spend a total of 100bn € in addition to its yearly increase to cover its previous failures. So at 3% the total spending power of German military could put it on par with China. When it comes to military equipment readiness status, these are defined by peace-time stats. Any LED lighted button not lighting up means that the entire vehicle is considered unready for military action, by German technical peace-time standards. While this doesn't mean that the German equipment currently is actually working as intended in percentages that are actually good, it is far better than demonstrated by the statitistics. Yes, there are certain failures in some equipment, but some standards can simply be ignored. For example, the new Puma IFV had certain limits of inner vehicle gases that were considered harmful to pregnant female soldiers if inhaled for a long time. This applies for peace-time training for pregnant female soldiers, obviously. But in war times, such issues would simply be ignored. Inhalation of certain gases from firing ammunition, or maybe even exhaust fumes, are definitely among the least of the problems the crews will worry about. In war time, you simply would not send out pregnant soldiers in an IFV, and if they volunteered then they will know about the potential issues. In that case they want a fast, nimble, powerful, defensible vehicle. And THAT'S what the new Puma definitely brings to the battlefield. Just to give you an example of how certain limitations of peace-time regulations affect the actual readiness state of German military equipment.
@@KubusSc7 Now thats an Argument the extreme Right uses, although the Grundgesetz wasnt intended as a Constitution by the point it was written because Germany was divided at that time, is a perfectly normal constitution, definitly better than the American Constitution for example :)
@@KubusSc7 The Grundgesetz IS our constitution. The BVerfG (Federal Contitutional Court) for example watches over the correct implementation of the constitution, the Grundgesetz. Do I have to say more?
When I was with the Bundeswehr in 1982-83, Germany had around 550,000 soldiers under arms at all times. With reservists, you would have had 1.2 million men in a few days. In the years from 1991, the Bundeswehr was saved badly. Barracks were closed. Munitions for tanks and artillery have been reduced. The Bundeswehr only had operations abroad, such as in Afghanistan, Mali or at sea in Somalia. National defense was completely neglected. I think the shock is deep and one remembers to rectify these errors as quickly as possible. But the first signs are encouraging that things are really changing. But it will certainly take some time
Of course; the West won the Cold War and the troops weren’t needed. I recall in the early 90s the US were repatriating 5000 troops a week and families. They went from 700,000 troops in Western Germany with thousand of nuclear weapons to about 30,000 today and no nuclear weapons. The Russians are lame in claiming NATO moved east. The over million foreign troops along with German military mostly went home. They just don’t want exist anymore. We won. A good thing.
That criticism about consultants is somewhat ridiculous as for example in the first half of 2019 when this „scandal“ was reported 70% of the money (109 million Euros out of 155 million Euros) that was paid to consultants went to BWI, which is 100% owned by the German federal government and provides IT support to the German military and other agencies.
It goes to planners, consultants, planning consultants, printer paper, printer toner for the plans and printer maintenance. Let's be honest, the Bundeswehr will not see one cent form this money. The German government will drag this on until the war in Ukraine is over, then they'll say we now have peace forever and forget about it.
Fun fact: getting all needed ammunition would cost circa 20 Mrd Euros, so from the 100 Mrd there are 80 left (inflation not counted) and with this 80 you won’t get all that shit running again. Sry as a german I need to say our military is a shit show, not due to the military or personnel itself but to your great great politicians
If you ask career soldiers about the state of the Bundeswehr : - Equipment in bad shape to the point of unusable, outdated or, in the very most cases, completely missing although direly needed - bureaucracy blown up to the point of being worse than a comedy, and not just ineffective, but being the absolute main cost factor and reason for enlisted soldiers leaving the army thats the main points, but they are enough to block any sense and effort within.
This is the first comment I read here which makes sense. I can absolutely confirm everything you say. I didn´t pursue a career with the German army exactly because of those reasons. Radio equipment from the 1980´s, half the stuff does not work. Half our Tanks had issues and would not function. Spare parts missing. The food was a joke. To get the most simple things like a pair of new boots you need to fill out a 25 paper report and send it in via fax to just never hear back from them and buy you own stuff. It is just a joke really. Money will not fix it.
I would love to hear more about the experience of the soldiers on the ground, as opposed to outsiders speculating about what the numbers coming from the german gov mean
@@smoothjazz2143 I was in the German Air Force in 98/99. The training equipment was old, but perfectly functioning and more than good enough for basic training. When you are getting deployed you get the latest and of course perfectly functioning equipment. Food was ok, not 5 star restaurant quality but never had a reason to complain. ( and I’m a picky eater) All that said, it also always depends on where you are stationed at and what unit you belong to, but that’s the same thing in almost every army… Another thing I wanted to mention is, that the idea of team of teams was already well established back then.
As an Ex-German Soldier, i can tell you, we had so much problems mith our equipment at the end of the 90'th. No general, no minister of defence could handle it, because there was no backup from the goverment or the population in Germany for us. As sad as it sounds, the attack of Russia against the Ukraine was the best ever could happen for the German Bundeswehr. All the years we tried to explain, that we have extrem problems, noone want to hear that. Now they are shocked they have to face these problems.
is it tho ? because it is the typical bs brd response put enough money to fix the Problem and hey lets just add another Brigade of bureacracy because this definitly helped the troops in the past
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@@EUMadeSimple but will European be able ro decide their own foreign policies? 😂 i think not… otherwise few steps- USA will use media to damage image of democracy… then declare you electoral autocracy and invade it and prove that USA never inavde democracy 🤣
@@EUMadeSimple Europe need to get independent policy and keep UK alone with USA… Includ russia in partnership instead of isolating and threatening like USA does… it’s just keep IS BULLYING alive… if Europe can do these… we indian can take peaceful breaths… otherwise we can’t trust anyone in Europe except France… your threat is china…
Germany needs an Army of 350 000 men and 350 000 men Reserve. In 27 Divisions (6 Panzer, 2 Motorised Rifle, 3 Cavalry, 2 Air Born, 12 Infantry and 2 Mountain Divisions). Plus 25 000 men Navy and 25 000 men Air Force. With 123 War Ships (With 18 Frigates, 18 Destroyers, 9 Corvettes, 18 Patrol Boats, 6 Mine Hunters, 9 LS T, 3 LSV, 18 Transport Ships, 3 Oilers, 3 Supply Ships, 18 Submarines). Also 300 War Playns (With 150 F/A -18F in 8 AD Sqds, 150 F-16 F in 8 AD Sqds., 150 F-35 C in 8 AS / Recci Sqds, 150 Miraz F3 in 8 Group AD Sqds. Plus 24 C -130E, 48 CN-276 , 6 C - 130C RF, 6 AWACS, 36 Training Playns.
The G36 "scandal" is a joke. Severe overheating of the barrel causes every assault rifle to be less accurate. The test conditions are pretty extreme. It's still perfectly fine for the job. Not a sniper rifle or perfect, but a very comfortable and well designed assault rifle.
German American here... Thank you Germany for increasing your military spending. We need you strong. We need your technology and your extremely advanced scientists.
you're romanticizing people such as Von Braun. where is their modern Von Braun? Maybe leave the WW2 section of German history. This isn't operation paperclip.
US 🌈DE🌈 Dude, we can triple or quadruple the investment. If nobody wants to fight, the best material is useless. Apart from an overflowing bureaucracy. We have seen the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the West is war-weary. The armor only serves to deter and compensate for inner impotence.
Well last time we build up our army.. it needed US, Britain, Franz AND Russia to stop Germany so... one Question Russia.... how do you think you could stop US, Britain, Franz, Germany and God knows how many more countries all by yourself? As a German I know that "allone against all"... dosn´t work so well... tried that twice... and I really start to feel a little proude that we FINALLY will become strong again and this time can be a PROTECTOR of the free world... and not the attacker... :)
I would be carefull when it comes to readiness numbers of hardware. The Bundeswehr has adopted some funny regulations from the civilian world which might have some influence on these said numbers in certain areas. Lets only take two examples from the new IFV Puma, the hatch is not allowed to open while the vehicle is moving and the air inside has to be so clean that it suits pregnant women. I know i know you might think that proper parking before shooting is just a typical german thing and an angry pregnat female Panzergrenadier might kill a hundret enemy soldiers all alone even with a rifle that cant shoot straight, but... i highly doubt that this is officially part of the doctrin...^^
XD ".......an angry pregnat female Panzergrenadier might kill a hundret enemy soldiers all alone even with a rifle that cant shoot straight.........." XD thanks! I only can say: thanks for that great contribution to the the internet.🤣
" the hatch is not allowed to open while the vehicle is moving and the air inside has to be so clean that it suits pregnant women." - That press release was funny as heck, but it's not true. The guy read the wrong safety regulations, and it became a meme.
The primitive barbarism of sending women into War in a already declining population. One of the great things the "Liberators" have brought us to make us go extinct when they bring us WW3. Also article 120 of our constitution still says: we have to pay for all costs of the allied occupation. Still paying for american bases in Germany because germany is free, right?
Germany has one of the most modern weapon systems in the world, because they are the one making it. I have no doubt the Bundeswehr can be one of strongest army in Europe within 3-5 years. They are like sleeping lions, better don't test them.
nah, man. Have you heard, recently the German defence delegation went to ISrael to check out their missile defence system, because Germany has the old Patriot system, which is just completely outdated. The only thing Germany actually still makes is tanks, and barbed wire for Saudi Arabia. Everything else, including the Tornado jets is just modified american stuff or prototypes for the US army.
@@thomasmann4536 so we overlook the leopard 2a6 which is arguably the best mbt in the world, the ifv puma that is argubaly the best ifv in the world, the Tiger attack helicopter which is a VERY capable helicopter, the different types of ammunition we are leading at and the mantis air defence system which is ahead of its time? and lets not forgett the pzh 2000 here which is still state of the art
@@lordgammadonkaargon2830 you mean the leo 2a6 which the canadians rejected as their new MBT in favor of the american abrams bc that one was just better in the field tests (aside from the abrams having A LOT more actual combat experience)? The puma? You mean, the BY FAR most expensive IFV in the whole world? The IFV that will only be ready in 2030 because it has so many technical issues it cant possible be even used yet? The Tiger which is produced by Airbus which isnt even a German company? I mean, come on, before you write anything, do your research please.
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great to have you onboard and thanks for the nice comment. Ive also integrated my sources into the video in my latest content. Hopefully that makes it even clearer :)
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The deeper problem with Germany was not simply how much or what percentage of their GDP they were spending, but where was the money that they were spending going? Even at 1.4% GDP they should have seen much better results. Their total spend was not that far outside France and the UK’s. But they have Navy’s. Nuclear Forces, expeditionary Forces. Larger, actually operational Air Forces, and Aircraft Carriers. Germany has none of that to purchase and maintain. Where has the money been going? Looking at the Puma development history may offer a clue. The vehicle looks like it finally might be worthwhile, 10 years late, and with cost overruns that would make even an American queasy. And that’s for a GOOD program that actually resulted in a useable combat vehicle. How much more has been needlessly pissed away on vapor ware projects? Because wherever the money was going, it clearly wasn’t going to the soldiers and their gear. The German Military will need more than simply a budget increase to fix. It will need a top to bottom audit and spending review.
The Puma was so expensive and it took so long, because the technology they wanted to use kept evolving at a rapid pace, and they wanted to have the newest tech, that meant a lot of other changes to implement that tech. Then there is the IDZ system that allows the dismounted troops to communicate with the vehicle, that also cost a lot of money and time, but that can be implemented in other vehicles too, so it was worth it. Also Puma's turret can be used on different platforms, so that's another plus. The Puma is fully operational since February 2021. If you look at the Lynx IFV, it's a whole different story, because that vehicle uses off the shelf parts ,not custom made parts like the Puma, yet the company benefitted a lot from the experience they gained from the Puma. A problem with the budget is that a lot of it wasn't spent on the military, but on refugee aid. By some stupid reason, helping refugees is considered defense expense in Germany. Unfortunately no one will be able to fix the bureaucratic mess that is their military procurement office. That needs to be killed with fire, and they should just copy a system that works. But that's the problem, Germans are too stubborn to just copy another system, so they will continue uselessly burning money on nothing.
One of the biggest problem is that the German Armee wants to buy '' made in Germany '' Equipment. One reason is to keep Expertise and Jobs in Germany and Europe, the other is to prevent Dependance. When it comes to Gas and oil they does not care..... stupid buggers... Most of the time it is cheaper to buy what is already available on the defence market. Germanies industry would still benefit from it for planes, helicopters, trucks, mbt, ifv, apc....... bought from the USA, GB........ would be licensed build in Germany. There would be same exceptions to the rule when it comes to very sensetive tech like the f35. Keep it simple but not stupid.
@@frankwesthoefer8062 In order to buy '' made in Germany '' , Germany has to export that equipment, to offset the costs. But Germany has stupid retarded and absurd export rules, meant to shoot itself and its defense industry in the foot. Anyway you look at it, it always comes back to the... Curse of the German Bureaucracy ! Seriously now, fix your damn bureaucracy and the country would be 100% better.
@@scratchy996 its not "germans are" stuboorn the main issue is that our military is run by politicans not military experts. the defense minister (who is the supreme commander of the military)has not had an idea of defense in the last two decades, because they are chosen from known party figures as a bargaining chip in coalition negotiations. Thats why the current minister of defemse is a lawyer who had no connection or prior experience before she got the position. You actually need somenone competent in charge who wants to improve it, not a politican who only cares about their image. Copying a system would be an admission of guilt which would get them blamed for everything that happens afterwards (sadly how change in germany works)
I guess it should be mentioned that Germany usually just goes shopping in the premium sector. They usually buy their own stuff that is more modern then the ones from the competition and they nearly always want their own modifications to it. Their main focus has been to fight in Afghanistan where they had good equipment but also found out that a lot of stuff needed upgrades and a lot of money was their for spent on upgrades and not on maintenance of the other systems back home. The whole army wasn’t even built to operate outside of the country so I guess it will take some time to make it ready for a wide range of missions.
@EXO0 "The whole army wasn’t even built to operate outside of the country" Exactly. That was the whole point of "never again". Germany has consequently taught all its pupils in every school repeatedly about the atrosities committed by Germans and taught them to make sure something like this could never be done again by Germans which is why the army was designed to defend Germany and not fight anywhere else.
You're right - the last decades our army was just planned for protection - not for leaving the country. So we started slow with Afghanistan and now we're preparing for Russia. Again. Part 3 of the series. That's a strange feeling for us pazified Germans, y'all have to understand.
@@timetraveller143 hahaha the US wants to start War with russia and china since the 1950s. Just look at all the proxy War against "communism" from south america to Asia and Africa. Just look at who is profitting from the Ukraine War and is drumming the Wardrum the most. Just look at who will lose the Least when WW3 happens and who has prepared the most with hundreds of huge government bunkers all around america. Russia is only a Threat to USA led NATO because they dont follow their tune. Same with china and north korea and iran and formerly lybia and iraq. Anyone not following the orders of Washington is a enemy. Its hilarious. Article 120 of german Grundgesetz says that you have to still pay for the american occupation and their Bases in germany lmao
I’ve realised you are very german centric. My opinion is germans don’t want a larger military or even want to go to war. So finding people fit for military service voluntarily.
The G36 is still one of the best weapons available. It only got made defectious by the media based on orders of our former minister of defense (now unfortunately head of the European Commission!). And the German term "Klarstand" doesn´t necessarily mean "not combat ready" it prescribes instead minor disfunctionalities with the equipment and that a small part of all this is only directly functional without any lackings and therefore fully combar ready. The "Klarstand" of any army in the world isn´t at any point higher than 40% of all its available equipment. At least, that´s what I once read...
That is the plan against the sovjet union having their tank army in thuringia, it is not what you would see against Russia, then Poland has to hold position.
@@tobyk.4911 no. this was a reference to the german constitution (Grundgesetz) where it says something like the Bundeswehr shall hold off the enemy until the (german) army gets there. German laws and minds have been build to oppose war and warefforts, this weird distinction of the Bundeswehr and a "real" german army was one of those outcomes initiated in the constitution-building process. back then they still had no idea where anything was or should be going, they just knew : "never again do we want to engage/start war". maybe thats why they imagined the Bundeswehr as a solely defensive band. Later it became the real thing due to the cold war situation.
@@takaetono6773 I don't understand what you try to say here ... The Bundeswehr is the German army,. therefore any distinguishing between "Bundeswehr" and "German army" seems meaningless (or should I say ... shizophren?)
The German Sachsen class frigate is generally considered a destroyer internationally due to size, armament, and role. The UK is also in dire straits when it comes to their naval forces as they are currently under pressure due to the snails pace at replacing older units. The may have 2 new Aircraft Carriers, but their escorts are lacking considerably. The Daring class destroyers and the older Type 23 only add up to 18 ships, with no replacements ready for the soon to be retiring Type 23. The new type 26 is still years away. Germany has always had a small Navy by comparison to the UK and France, but it is time they put some real emphasis on making it more modern and capable.
That’s not completely true. As each type 23 is decommissioned it will be replaced by a like for like replacement of the type 26 or type 31 frigate. Not to mention the type 32 frigate is planned which will increase the Royal Navies surface fleet to 24 modern warships.
@@adamking4538 Unfortunately the 1st type 26's will not ready until 2026 with only HMS, Cardiff. The 3rd "Belfast" only had the steel cut last summer. The type 23 HMS Monmouth has already being decommissioned and 3 more have already been sold to Chile, so they are already not replacing them. A lot of the issues are currently no available crews and with the UK parliament not increasing the military budget, I cannot see this changing anytime soon. One can hope with the current crisis going on the MP's will get off there arse's and start paying attention the military again as it's not only the Navy that is suffering.
as i French, i would welcome this as a good new. France is the only big military power. With Germany at its peak, we would fear nothing for any territory inside the EU. So, yeah, it's time to rearm now.
@Mike he said in the EU, not in europe, even though EU is technically the abbreviation for Europe its pretty clear hes using it to refer to the European union, if he meant Europe then it would be extremely foolish to say France is the only power especially considering Britain has a stronger military than France.
Thank you very much for this video. I really believe that Germany and the European Union needs to focus on buinding their own defence capabilities outside of NATO! Now living in NZ for 15 years after struggeling from PTBS, after 8 years fighting alongside great soldiers across many different nations, I witnessed in 1998 Bosnia and 2002 in Kosovo how the German Army struggled to refocus on what their future focus should be after the cold war had ended. Lots of very smart people and consulting firms were engaged to define the future "Feindbild" of the Bundeswehr after the cold war ended. I worked for a number of years for some of them before finally leaving the country. The Bundeswehr is an awesome Army, I was privliedged to serve next to many good soldiers, comanders fully motivated to defend decent democratic values with a huge passion. And with respect of our history and the passion to learn from our past. Everybody who thinks the Budeswehr as threat that history is going to be repeated is completely misinformed and silly! I hated being spit on standing as soldier at the German train station because our "Gesellschaft" didn't accept that we need a parlamentary Army more than ever before. I was called a murderer lots of time by Germans. strangly in Sarajevo under SFOR or Kosovo under KFOR I was never spit upon because people respected us, we helped them. Now unfortunately Ukraine is under attack, they are fighting for their lives and Europe is split because we are not convinced that NATO is the right institution. I believe the European battlegroup is exactly what we need to be able to act and help if something threatens our European culture! And Germany and france should take that serious and continue that idea. But Learn from Sweden and Finnland and Norway!!! They are the most amazing Defence Force and power we have to partner with. One of the main items is that we have no problem to get more support on helping another country across European Union when somebody in the mid of Europe get cowardly attacked by a dictator. European countries are ready to step up ourselves without being led by US or UK. We stand for European values such need to stand up for them. Sorry I distracted here, I think your Video was really put things into a good perspective Kia kaha from New Zealand
Germany's strength has always been in technology, and not numbers. WW2, WW1, in both germany did exceptionally well with exceptionally low numbers, this is because of their technology and skill. Therefore I think it's unfair to compare them with other countries based on numbers, but I think it'd be fairer to compare them to other countries based on technology.
the readinesstate of the Airforce is up to80% even before the ukrainian war, the maintainance issues with the tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were cleaned up as well before the ukrainina situation arose and the G36 does shot straight it has always shot straight it is an awesome weapon ... just Mrs. von der Layen did not do proper investigation into this matter, she was very incompetent as a defence minister ...
That is not true with the G36, the rifle itself is accurate yes, but the Polymer housing on the G36A1's Optics does not hold Zero AT ALL, these issues were resolved with the A3 and use of new optics on pic rails, however most don't get to use the A3 in that configuration...
@@auburn8833 I have shot thta weapon and it's pre decessor both hold 0 very well even after unloading 400 round through extended magazines nothing happened to that gun
The G36 inaccuracy problem was political theatre drummed up to hurt HK. If you dump 90 rounds through any 1990's pencil barrel after the rifle has already been heating up in the sun for hours the point of impact will inevitably shift.
It looks more like it was to benefit HK. Instead of asking them to replace the composite parts in question, which would have cost the tax payers next to nothing, it was mandated that the G-36 should be scrapped and the Bundeswehr should receive an all new assault rifles for the cost of a few billion Euros.
As many already commented, much of the tech considered not battle-ready has only minor problems like a broken light or whatever. But I think it's also worth mentioning that some is "not battle-ready" not because it's broken some way but because it's currently being modernized/upgrade, for example around 100 Leopard 2 A6/A6M are currently upgraded to Leopard 2 A7V. So not only is it not broken but actively improved.
The Germans, are already a addition in military technology development, in many cases, everybody has its own opinion about some military stuff, from different Nations, but I think, nearly everyone will say, that the Tanks, of the Germans, are the best in the world.
As one of the top 5 weapon / military producers, germany already is involved in development. But that stuff is exported to kill or surpres somewhere else.
Quality over quantity should be the premise for the next armament. In Germany we have some of the best defense contractors in the world (e.g. Rheinmetall, H&K, KMW, Hensoldt, etc.) and we make way to little use of their new technologies...
If people are worried about the G36 not shooting straight what is their view on AK47 accuracy then. Most rifle barrels when really hot will warp slightly thats why a lot of tournament/sniper rifles have a fluted barrel to mitigate this effect.
U cant compare germany today with germany in the first half of the 20th century. I think most french and polish people who was born and raised in a free europe would love to have a stronger german army to help NATO to save its boarders from russian aggression.
Germany makes some of the best weapons in the world. They supply tanks and other military vehicle to many countries around the world. They make the best small arms going and some of the best air defence weapons around by Rheinmetall. The british army has german small arms . trucks. and now boxer afv. The challenger will soon have a german gun and engine. Its still one of the best equipped armies in nato.
"They supply tanks and other military vehicle to many countries around the world".......that's right....just look at Greece....loan them billions to buy German arms that they cannot afford....then take the country as compensation....LOL
@@simontenkate9601 Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.
I see what you mean… As a italian I have always admired germans. They are in general very honest and here in Italy find a honest guy is quite hard… I think the german culture and discipline makes the differences between Germany and the others one. About WWII I’m happy that Allies have won the war. Fascism and Nazism have made a lot of crimes (also Allies, but not as Axis has done).
@@kaspardeschain1608 I do not support adolphe, but to me both wars were brother wars. I have worked among Germans, we are just too similar, we can't hate each other. Anyway you are right.
@@user-sn5mw4sh7j In fact I can't hate Nations / the entire population. I don't know the individual. How can I hate a stranger? I can hate a specific person that I know. That's the reason I don't hate Russia right now. As a german I wouldn't fight because the other soldier on the other side could be me. In peace time I could have be a friend of him/her. Only because another person I don't know (Johnson, Putin or Scholz) tell me that's my enemy? No it isn't.
A few mistakes that were made here: (1) There is and never was anything wrong with the G36 rifle. Just look at the final reports or ask any soldier. (2) 3:16 Germany does not have destroyers because they are not called destroyers, but of course Germany has them. However, Germany does not have overseas posessions to defend. (3) Germany does not have nukes because of WWII, but it agreed to not posess nukes in the 2+4 treaty (2 German states + France, UK, Russia and US) in 1990, which was necessary to allow German reunification (4) While some German weapons systems have low operational availability due to lack of spare parts, the operational availability in other countries is not necessarily higher, but Germany is more transparent about it. (5) The weapons systems that are on Scholz's wish list were not new, but all mentioned in the military planning document (Weissbuch) in October 2021. This also mentions the 100 billion euro as necessary amoutn. But now there is more urgency behind it. Btw, 20bn will just be spent on ammunition.
Hello, a small correction from a German: Germany has nuclear weapons. Although they belong to the USA, they can be disposed of by the German federal government in the event of a defense. This is exactly what the new aircraft are to be purchased for, which can be adapted to these weapon systems.
@@KubusSc7 You are right, we have no "control" over nuclear weapons. But are you reading my explanations correctly? I was talking about the defense case! If Germany were attacked, in any form whatsoever. Questions/queries about the "owners" of nuclear weapons on our territory would take too long. Thus, our government cannot threaten with those arms, but have them at their disposal if an attack had occurred. And the enemy knew it. A small, but significant difference. Why else would the US store and service about 30 nuclear warheads in Germany? Because Germany is so huge compared to the USA and the USA unfortunately had no more room for those things? 🤣😂🤣
Defence spend and military capability are not directly related. It depends what you spend your money on. So for example you could spend 3 billion Euros on 1000 main battle tanks or 2 billion euros on an aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier is mobile. 1000 tanks not so much. So despite the fact you've spent more your ability to project power is less. Germany being a continental country could spend more money than the UK but the UK would continue to have a more powerful military since being an island it could concentrate it's defence resources on its navy and its air force. It doesn't need a large army since its air force and navy is capable of blocking any attack from a large continental army whilst at the same time giving it the ability to project power across the world.
I think what this article isn't anticipating is that the UK defence spending is being bumped to 3% in the October budget. In addition to that no nation can be considered a P1 military force without nuclear capability. Its just not the same seat at the table. France and the UK will remain Europe's premier military powers not just because of this, it's their all round capability by land, air, sea, logistics and whole host of capabilities that will take Germany two decades to catch up to...and that's assuming France and the UK just stop...which they won't, France will most likely go to 3% as well within 12 months.......Germany was down at just 1.2% in real terms remember....so 100b is a nice bump...but half of that will fix issues ...
No it would not just continue being a stronger military just because its on am island? What if a nato country is under attack and they have to fight in europe?
@@jt8083 Yep a very narrow sighted article that only really looks in one direction. Russias actions have ensured every military power will increasingly concentrate on strengthening their forces and as you said the UK and France aren't going to just sit still as its now clear that diplomacy cannot sort out all issues and I think too many world leaders were naive to think it could and subsequently neglecting their military size and effectiveness.
The problem is that you don't simply have a powerful or at least capable military to protect yourself, but to protect your allies as well. The 2% GDP system seems very fair as a standard for military spending.
the 2% is nonsense. first step is to analyze you strategic situation. after thes you plan the expenses. this can be far more or less than 2% - depends.
In general I agree, but some things cannot be represented with this model. E.g. if a country invests into military research that is also used in the private sector, building up a manufacturing industry, or mandatory service to have reserves. I guess that is the point of having diplomats to figure out what is fair.
The 2% is a silly goal. Eg, Greece meets this, but their military is more an outdoor labour support program. They spend little on equipment. The UK has more Admirals than warships. Belgium needs to dismiss most of its elderly troops. The Spanish need to spend money of training. And Germany is so fantastically wealthy that is share of 1.3% provide a massive capacity. A modest increase will greatly amplify their capability.
Germany has the means and ability to become nuclear capable in les than a year. It is likely the plans for nuclear weapons exist and updated regularly. Japan as well as several other countries are also in the same position.
They already have american nukes in their teretory. But I dont think they will produce their own. Since they shut down all of their nuclear power plants
Or we jsut ask the french to give us some of theirs. They already offered to station some in germany if germany shares in the nukes maintanance cost. Germany obviously refused this french attempt to shift costs for their nukes. The USA dumps there nukes everywhere for free after all anyway :D
There are already protocols and infrastructure in place for the German Military to throw off US Nuclear Bombs which are stationed within germany, so building up an own nuclear arsenal shouldn't be a big problem
Being able to build some kind of nuke is not the same as having one that can reliably be used. You need a delivery system for that. Germany has one, designed to deliver US bombs by plane. Which is an incredibly unreliable system in a modern world. Germany also has submarines that in all likelyhood can be converted easily to fire nuclear-capable cruise missiles. Germany doesn't have those missiles, though. However, aquiring them from Israel could be possible.
Yes Marina, so sad. How is it that Germany lets itself be used by the USA! Instead, it should be siding with Russia, or remain completely neutral. I am so ashamed!!
@@augusto8821 good joke bro, USA started 90% of all Wars since 1945 and also have been in continous War since 1945, sometimes several Wars at once. Also killed a million civilians in Vietnam, a Million Civilians in Iraq, funded the destruction of Libya and used uranium ammo in iraq still leading to horrible birth defects
The French and UK are spending much of their budget on nukes just like the US. If you subtract those the budget is a lot smaller in conventional weapons.
But it is good that the UK and France have nuclear weapons. Otherwise the Russians could do whatever they wanted. The Russians are deterred by nuclear weapons.
I am a french officer, currently doing officer training in Germany, and if there IS ont problem, it's the issue of spending money wisely. The Germans buy TVs in every room for their soldier, civilians are paid to clean the toilet, civilians are paid to ensure the security of the military base, a German rank and file soldier IS paid 2000€, me as french officer 1400€. So much money wasting from their side... I am already with the moutain infantry since 4 months, and I can ensure you that it is a real catastrophy. They are not even capable to send one bataillion on a long term mission abroad: a company is the most they can manage. We french for example sent 5000 soldiers to Mali in a few days during "Opération Serval". Just to say : Germany is very very far from becoming Europe's strongest military. They only have very little experience of real war, and from this little experience, 90% is defensive experience. Clearly not what makes a strong and operationnal military.
The G 36 is in duty for around 30 years. Every soldier is equiped with an optical sight ranged up to 800 meters and a red dot. It works very well and I had never seen a rifle that failed since I came in touch with this rifle since '97. It is still very handy.
We had the strongest Military in Europe until 1991. We thought there will never be war again, so we figuerd we didnt need a strong army anymore. The USA once said: The only thing that could be dangerous for us is when Germany and Russia were to work together. Be glad that we are on your side. We will always come back up, because we are different than everyone else.
Me as a german we dont realy seek the big ang great navy we are focused on landwarfare. Im also not a fan of the F35 i like the Eurofighter more. Our problem is that the Bundeswehr is over bureaucratic to get a sock you have to wait for at öeast 3 months regularly 1 year ... Our SOF the KSK dosn't have that they send a letter we need this and they get it. That system is planed to be exdended for the hole Bundeswehr, maybe it will come maybe not lets see.
As a German who just read the Comments 😂 No Battlefield experience(I agree but only the last 80 years)but that doesnt matter at all because our way to train our Soldiers is always on Top👍always was and always will be So lets wait a few Years and there will be no doubt that Germany will become the strongest none nuclear Power in Europe We got our own Tecnology like always Own Industrial Capacity and more Money than most Countrys in the World I
@@fintonmainz7845 considering their means back then they managed a heck of a close call. History has other examples that show when Germans choose to unite they can be hella powerful, ever since they crushed the Roman Empire at Theutoburg Forest. The scary thing is in WW2 their executive issues ran from top to bottom, not from the bottom up.
" our way to train our Soldiers is always on Top" - that is true, those broomsticks as machine gun replacements make training more realistic. With the new, increased budget, you will now afford to buy even more broomsticks !
@@fintonmainz7845 as it has been replaced by british and american arrogance and who can tell what will be the arrogant entity in the future? The winner alway seems to claim the right to be the most arrogant. This applied to the Roman Empire, now the UKUS empire, after that the EU empire and who knows the Chinese or the SinoJapanese empire. Everything comes, rises and fades into oblivion. Carpe diem!!
Germany highest priority right now should be its people for whom they need to provide adequate energy resources rather than relying on other countries heavily. The military spending can take a backseat for now, in my opinion!
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Thanks for the great feedback! Here are some CLARIFICATION & CORRECTIONS as highlighted in the comments:
1. The value of 76.12 billion euros is based on Germany's GDP in 2020 (2% of 3.8 trillion). For 2021 it would be even more (2% of 4.2 trillion) , meaning military spend would be 84.4 billion. As for 2022, if GDP continues to grow it would be even more. I use the world Bank & SIPRI as my main source and the 2021 data has not been released yet (time of recording). Therefore, I used the 2020 value for this video and 1:39 I should have said 2020 (not 2021).
2. The "special fund" is complementary to the 2% goal. It should be enough to meet the 2% target for the next 3.5 years until the next election. However, over the next 5 years, more than 151 billion euros (see sources in description) will be needed to meet the pledge, and the fund will run out. Unless dropping below 2% again, there would have to be an increase in defence spending by changing the fiscal plan or by other means.
3. Should have included Frigates in the military comparison. Germany has 12, UK has 12, France & Russia have 11. 6 of the German Frigates can be compared to Destroyers due high tonnage and strong armaments.
4. Pictures & Animations: Yes, I have used non-German military footage as it is a struggle to find copyright free images. If anyone has a good source then I am all ears. As for G36, there are actually plenty of copyright free images, so I should have used actual footage.. Next time :)
Please check out the sources (in the description) for more detail on all these numbers
Thanks for the great engagement
There is a minor error: Germany has no destroyers, but the Frigates of the Brandenburg and Sachsen classes have very high tonnage in comparison to regular frigates and accordingly very strong armaments, similar to common destroyers of other nations.
So Germany would have 7 "Destroyers"
Also the Bundeswehr has not a problem with to low funding, but major problems with major overspending on procurement contracts and not buying spareparts in large enough quantities etc.
This is primarily due to a flawed procurement process and insufficient controls and checks by the parliament on procurements.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Thanks for the feedback. I have seen this topic throughout the comments a couple times. I should have inlcuded the Frigates numbers in the military overview (UK, France and Russia have 12, 11 and 11 frigates respectively). As for the funding issue, I have read about this to and could dedicate a video to solely this topic. There has been a lot of procurement mismanagement over the years.
You made a mistake, the "special fund" is for the next 3 1/2 years (until the next election) to meet and exceed the 2% mark, there's no increase in regular defense spending for the current fiscal plan until 2026 written down.
@@xela6349 Hi, there has been a lot of confusion over this in a lot of the news out there. This article explains it really well: www.sipri.org/commentary/blog/2022/explainer-proposed-hike-german-military-spending
Indeed the "special fund" is complementary to the 2% goal. Over the next 5 years, Scholz will need 151 billion euros to meet the pledge, therefore the special fund is not enough. Unless dropping below 2% again, there would have to be an increase in defense spending by changing the fiscal plan or by other means. Thanks for letting me know and I have updated my sticky post.
@@EUMadeSimple The next german federal Election (and thus new Government) is due in 3 1/2 years.
With the 100b€ this is covered with ease.
Its typical conservative, neoliberal, politics.
(the SPD is centrist but the SPD faction providing ministers and chancellor are all center right, as this faction has a majority inside the party. they stand for neoliberal and more conservative politics akin to Merkels government policies. The FDP is also a major blocking factor, as their head of party, Christian Lindner, is minister of finance and he drags down/blocks alot of really neccesary legislation)
"Why are the Germans only terrible at war when they are on our side" that got me laughing soo hard
That statemeant is simply so far from reality it got me laughing as well. People think Germany was a hippy paradise during the cold war and not the most militarized place on the planet with the 2 biggest non USA/USSR armies in europe facing each other beeing german.
I mean during the hight of the cold war both germanys combined had nearly 1 million active soldiers under arms within the modern borders of germany. It was a very big discussion point during reunification because that made germany over night the 3 biggest military on the planet.
@@noobster4779 So large in fact that the Allies/Soviets stipulated we had to reduce the size of the military in the 3+1 contract. This currently planned expansion could actually be seen in some ways as the last steps towards actual german autonomy.
@@nonyabisness6306 2+4, but wurscht... :) Germany West, Germany East + USA, UK, F, USSR
Because Germans were defeated in ww2, Germans being lead by a semite "Schultz" and their people are neutered and mixed out working as globalist marketplace, the concept of Germans is false as compared to a united people
@@OverSchall Yeah, I was too lazy to look it up. My bad.
German standards for what is considered "functional" are different. By most country's standards, that stuff is perfectly fine. I mean Germans consider something not ready, if a scheduled oil change is 10 days late ... it's all quite a bit exaggerated.
man these oil changes are important. You could damage the motor without it...
If only you knew ;(
Hush! It's not exaggerated, it's strategy. If the enemy believes that Germany is no real hazard, it's easier to catch him unprepared and overwhelm him.
u are right, except for the DB(Deutsche Bahn) you can be quite happy if ur train has no delay or if u reach ur destination at all
@@zugspitze4437 those fuckers are trolling tho. They will go out of their way to ruin your day
From an German officer, most of our equipment is combat ready according to foreign standards. The problem are the German standards defining what is ready and what isn't. If an tank didn't pass an regular inspection because the left tail light is broken or it is slightly too heavy, it is put out of service and does not have driving allowance anymore, and it takes months to get the small problems fixed because of bureaucracy and then the inspector has to come to give the ok again which as well takes months to get an appointment. We have to quit those ridiculous civilian vehicle standards, which are also quite overly strict in Germany. If you have an slight too dark tint, or custom led headlight you lose your driving allowance..
The Russians should only attack Germany, when all inspections of the german tanks are done! Someone has to say this to putin, he will definitely understand🤣
And that is a really big problem for most european armies. Beucracy has taken over and made them inaffectiv
@@Flamechr that is because there are too many guys in Office. Of course they dont want to fight.
I want peace....✌️
Well I guess if the proverbial poopoo hits the fan, just chuck the inspector at the enemy. In all seriousness though, when defending your homeland, I guess nobody is going to care about it having a broken brake light.
Ich habe lustigerweise auch illegale Led Scheinwerfer hehehe
My grandfather served in the Wehrmacht during WW2. He single handily destroyed 11 tanks. He was the worst mechanic Germany ever had.
Ever thought about that he did that on purpose "being in the resistance"?
11 tanks was 0.00000000001% percent of the wehrmachts tanks back then, now its 20%
😂😂😂😂
Germany is deindustrializing :)
Bruh🤣
I know someone who served for years in the German Bundeswehr. He told me some of those tanks are termed "not combat ready" for having minor issues that are relevant for civil traffic use. :P
I was a german Panzermann. The person you know is right. They are mostly combat ready but, i mean... this is germany, can´t have shit without proper insurance. When shit hits the fan, this Panzers will be ready to whoop some ass
this is propaganda channel..dont explain him...he's paid by the kremlin
@@ChrisK312 Even without the TÜV sticker!
That true. A tank with oil change late by one day is not combat ready even it would work another complete term without change if necessary.
Thats sooo German 😂
Russia: invades other country
Germany: upgrades its army
Poland: *ah, shit, here we go again*
Poland recently went on a arms buying spree as well. If the plans were to be completed (its assumed they are overblown and will get scaled down post-election) PL would have probably the strongest land army in EU. Or at least in top 3.
Go to school instead of writing such comments
Nah, Poland has nothing to fear from us. Actually, we could be the best of friends, if the PIS under Kaczyński had not made it's life's goal to blame Germany for every problems in Poland and to make new ridiculously high reparation demands every year.
@@Ponanoix With this one I don't even feel bad.
whoooosh!
@@Fritz_Haarmann yeah
Germany does indeed have 7 destroyers.
The German Navy just doesn't use the word destroyers and also calls them frigates.
Frigates are usually around 3,000 tons in weight. These German ships are in the 6,000 to 7,000 tons range.
Well, that follows German naval tradition of WW2. German destroyers built by the Nazis were twice the size of most contemporary British destroyers.
Personally, I don't like the word 'destroyer' either. IMO, all 'destroyers' should be redesignated as 'cruisers'. Since the role (and tonnage) of a modern destroyer is very much like a 1930's light cruiser, and not much like a 1930's destroyer.
Germany uses the term frigate because their "big" ships are in fact frigates and not destroyers. It's not the size but the function that make the term. Btw. there are several other navies who got frigates in a similar size, that's not a German thing. And if Germany had destroyers the would call them destroyers. They did so until they retired their last class of destroyers (Lütjens class) in 2003.
and they'll reach moscow this time.
Deutscher STAHL!
Old habits.
"Why nein, this is no battlecruiser. Its just a cruiser with battleship guns."
Russia: *becomes aggressive*
Germany: How many times are we gonna do this dance?
As a German, i think one of the biggest Problems of our Army is, that we have not the right Persons in charge and to mutch Bureaucracy. And the Bundeswehr does not have enough Recognition among the People. But thats my Opinion.
Definitely bureaucracy.. that will be a challenge to overcome with the new budget.
@@EUMadeSimple Yes i hope they can managed that. Its important in these Days.
Damit das ganze den erwünschten Erfolg hat muss die Bundeswehr komplett umgekrempelt werden. 20 Jahre Misswirtschaft und Inkompetenz wird von einer Sabine Lambrecht garantiert nicht ausgebügelt werden, eher im Gegenteil.
Man muss sich mal auf der Zunge zergehen lassen, dass wir gerade mal 10 Milliarden weniger in unsere Armee stecken als Russland. Nach der Logik müssten wir schon ne ziemlich schlagkräftige Truppe haben. Nur landet das Geld nicht mal ansatzweise da wo es hin soll. Ich wüsste nicht was 100 Milliarden extra da wieder gut machen sollen.
Its time for a real defence minister in germany!
What we saw in the past years suck.
Traurig aber absolut Wahr! Das Soldaten wie Mörder hier in Deutschland behandelt werden ist absolut unterste Schublade und auch die Auflösung vom KSK war einfach nur absolut Grenzdibil
As a European, im comfortable with Germany getting back to being a superpower again. They are already economically, but with a better army they will be even more. Its time for the EU to also be a force to be reckoned with.
The redemption arc is complete lol.
We don't have to worry that they'll start another world war.
Me as a german i eould prefere a EU-Army or atlest a seperat European military alianc
Well it's good that Germany is on your side
Last two times didnt end well
How many superpowers do you see in the world? I would call Germany a regional power but not even close to being a superpower.
I wonder if "not operational" in German context means something completely different. There was once a European study about schools. Every Nation send its outcomes and germany sucked big time in this study. However later they found we Germans simply followed the rules 110%, while other Nations where more "generous" in their research determination.
No, it literally means none of it works. Mostly because the beurocrats never gave a shit about it, also because as soon as you try to do anything positive for the army, you get the mouth-breathers from the greens and the left (yes, thats the actual name of a political party.) calling you a nazi and thus destroying any kind of hope for a proper discussion.
@@philip2.2.12 Yet nor left or greens ruled the last decade.
Yes Finland just didn't test kids with cognitive and learning disabilities and surprise was very good.
@@sualtam9509 Finland sets priorities on its youth👍. In Germany only Car Manufacturers where allowed to skip or even cheat Tests in the past....especially environmental test 😂.
@Gunther H.G. Geick Ohh sound sarcastic. Günther are you the Nigerian Prince of Wolfsburg running the Volkswagen Scam division?
Our standards for what is and isn't "combat ready" are almost absurdley high in comparison to other armies. By almost any other standard, our army is absolutley combat ready! As mentioned in other posts, a tank e.g. can be pulled out of serrvice simply for the reason that it's oil wasn't changed on the due date or it coloring is to faded to match "Nato standard".
Of course! We can't use tanks whose coloring starts to vanish. It might be seen driving on the road! - Can't have that. Besides...everyone knows missing paint makes it impossible for the engine to work at all, duh 🤪
you guys showed up at a NATO exercise with no machine guns,no ammo,not enough food AND you were useing unsecured cellphones to direct troops..dont give me that shit about being combat ready..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@pegamini germany itself made this public when a invetigation was done..then your prime minister confirmed it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelcraig58 Could you provide a source for that? Honest question. I cannot find a source, online or personally (I have friends and family serving within the Bundeswehr and US army, who can support that claim).
@@jayanthony3006 all a strategy to make us seem weak! and then we will present 500 new german main high tech KF51 Panther Battle Tanks ready for action XD!
"Germany will become the most powerful military in Europe ", Me as a French " Awww shit here we go again "
Gib Elsass.
JK we can split the Benelux Countries. Totally not gonna betray you after.
Nobody in Germany wants to invade France. Unless it's for having glasses of wine and lots of crêpes. Greets from Germany.
u french still have those lovely allée's or?
just asking since it's nicer to march on shadowy streets i heard^^
Lol. But we've got a complete different relationship now. Oh wait, Le Pen is coming ;-)
🇫🇷🤝🇩🇪 But this time we will work together not against :)
Germany is like that playable boss character that is OP when you battle him but gets nerfed when you play as him.
Yes
Literally lol.
thats a pretty good example..
Yes everything in real life is like your video games champ here's a cookie
@@dbz9393 you're a ray of sunshine aren't you? It's a joke bud
The problem is, that the German military already has got a lot of budget, but the money is just vanishing without impact. The reason is, that there is a parallel structure within the Bundeswehr (the Inspectors and the normal officers). Those structures are constantly just interfering and decisions are taking ages….
The german Bundeswehr is combatready. The Media pretends to be Not but in fast were good to go. Watch The official channel how we Do in Mali. This is way too overpowered. But in we talk anout russia and China, well never be alle to reach These Standards. No matter how much we invest
@@kerimschluter2046 Well, the problem is, that it isn’t really ready. According to a new report, the German army has got ammunition for 3 days and 1 division (I believe) ready to fight. Given the enormous amounts of money invested already, it should, it has to be more. So I think that before you just put more and more money into it, you have to change the structures. And of course, if you compare the enemies (in Mali the terrorists and now Russia), the Bundeswehr seems to be more ready against one than the other.
@FuntimeFlorian Good idea, if I may teach😉😂
@@severussnape8260 that is a complete lie. There is no Battle where u can foretell how much ammunition you need. And if u just watch the Arsenal u can Tell this is just dumb. This has to be the craziest war eher seen to deploy everything .
Sinne we invested 12 Mrd into the Afghanistan war and the us invested 3 Billion u can Tell we managed real good .
@@severussnape8260 and also u shouldnt just say the guys we fight in Mali are Terrorist. Thats simply doeesnt serve them right
"Even with germany's new budget it remains a small player as it spends way too little. And this really raises the question: does an EU army makes sense"
I made a video on that too :) And you are right.. It does. Check out my channel if you are interested
I mean does Germany really want an European force? The answer is no, as emphasized by the failure of French-German joint defense programmes - because of the Germans - as well as their will to buy American equipment instead
On paper that is great - In reality who answers to who?
PArt of the UK voting Brexit was because a lot of people did not want the British millitary answering to a foreign entity - which looked to be the unelected EU comission.
Not only is the potential for abuse catastrophic, but even in the best case scenario you will have foriegn nationals sending your soldiers to die over their own.
It just won't work. And even if it did, even if all these little flaws were ironed out and the EU 'somehow' makes it work, what is the endgame? Now you have nations like switzerland and Austria - neutral nations - who can be sent into war that they want no part of. This is in addition to the issue of conflict with NATO. How does that work with some members being in the EU but not NATO? Like Ireland? What happens on an Article 5 trigger and non NATO nations are pulled into a conflict for an organisation they aren't part of because the EU bloc is bound to act?
The who idea is one big mess, there are far too much overlap, far too many hurdles and much to much disorganisation for any potential benefit to be worth it.
MAYBE if NATO didn't exist, it MIGHT work. But as it stands, no. It just wouldn't. It would cause too many headaches for too little payoff.
@@Whoami691 EU army should never be made to be used in any offence to begin with. We are in 2022. We are not savages that murder. Imperialism is not something to be proud of today.
@@Whoami691 I know this will never happen (since it's costly and the populace would resist) but conscription in all EU countries could fix it. That way countries could use their own manpower but borrow equipment. Operations overseas should use volunteers of course.
What I think is very important, which perhaps should have been mentioned, is that Germany doesn't need a large navy because we have a relatively small coast. What makes more sense is to have a large army and a large air force.
Who is protecting the oil from the Persian gulf on its way to DE? The US? They will want to sell their more expensive shale (fracking) oil.
I think they're talking of a "blue water" navy acting globally across the oceans, not a "green water" navy protecting our two coasts.
this depends on whether Germany will continue to rely on other countries to protect its trading links with the non-European world. I don’t think they will.
That’s the dumbest comment I have read today. You have absolutely no clue and just want to take part in that conversation by spreading false information. German Navy was on the key factors in the Second World War for Germany. Let alone the strength of the submarines that cut off resupply chains and heavily attacked the east coast causing big chaos and fear…
In WW2, German infantry was spectacular, if Germany focuses on Infantry, logistics, heavy transports, AWAC’s, and a few frigates and destroyers. it would fantastic for NATO. Germany, UK and France would be able to do missions anywhere on the planet without relying on the US, especially as the UK and to a lesser degree France has bases all over the world.
"Germany's military will become the most powerful of europe."
Everyone else on this earth: **Visibly nervous and sweatting**
israel 👀
no one is. Germanys military is literally a joke and 100bil wont change that overnight lol
Olaf Scholz's grandfather, Fritz Scholz, an SS officer.
He took part in the battles as part of the Army Group "South" for Tarnopol in Galicia at the end of June 1941. He led the "Nordland" regiment in the battles along the Dnieper River in Dnepropetrovsk. In October 1941, von Solz was promoted to SS-Oberführer and ended the year in fierce fighting for Rostov-on-Don. In December, the division was ordered to leave Rostov and retreat to the Mius River line.
A year later, in December 1942, von Solz was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General, and from May 1943 he commanded the 11th SS Nordland Voluntary Motorized Division (by Norwegian and Danish volunteers)
Since December 1943, the 11th SS Division has been fighting near Leningrad, since March 1944 - in the Narva region. In March, von Solz was awarded the Oak Leaves (No. 423). On July 27, 1944, von Solz was wounded in the head by a fragment of a shell in the battle near Narva and died the next day.
skeletons of the past have come to the surface.Solz reveals more and more evidence that his grandfather's Nazi blood awakens the monster inside him.I will say 200 billion for military equipment, let's not forget who the Germans are. The wolf if he puts sheep fur remains a wolf
@Michael N Do not confuse different things. How would it seem to you if Hitler had descendants and one of his grandsons was the president of Germany? The Germans do not change they were and will be chauvinists. You probably do not know history. Biomes and ideologies are passed from one parent to his child. You will find out when the Germans with 200 billion will make an army that everyone will start thinking.I'm very afraid that they will also acquire nuclear weapons.Better to see in the long run and not have illusions about the Germans. The wolf and to put sheep fur remains a wolf
Let's took a Pray n wish it Not Germany or Germanic peoples again who caused the Warfare... 😀☺️
Remember the Protestanism vs Catholic and Two World wars' back in the days
You forgot to take into account how well the German industry could switch to war production. If the russians are at our footstep, Germany would be able to produce massive amounts of hardware in a short amount of time.
How? No gas oil or coal, German industry would grind to a halt in days.
Merkel made sure that Germany would be reliant on Russia energy just to improve their green agenda.
Production power is immense
that was never Germany's strong point. Producing weapons of war in a short amount of time is a Russian thing. NOT German. Prime example. German tanks vs soviet tanks ww2. The german tanks were superior yet got overwhelmed by soviet production. That was back when Germany had the drive to take over the world. Now that they have been sitting around for 30 years I dont see Germany being a powerhouse of production in your scenario.
@@jadefalconUSA ironically russians are struggling to produce anything that isnt ammo for guns, like rockets, vehicles, etc
It’s too late then. Also with Germany being weak and reliant on Russian energy has made the whole continent at risk.
About time
this video is 7 months old and they havent bought anything yet
As an American Army veteran who served in Karlsruhe FRG in the mid and late 80s; I’m personally glad to see our German allies and brethren raise their defence spending. A strong Germany and Europe are in the best interest of the U.S. and the world.
True, maybe at some point Europe even come to realisation it doesn't need USA anymore )
@@Isomeria450 Nah, they are better together.
There are those in the USA who for the better part of this and the past decade tried to go against the very same thing you are saying. Seeing europe as a competitor economicly and militarily. Only now with russia again trying to rise, these voices became rather quiet. I would imagine that won't stay this way for too long.
Nonsense. No one gives a fuck to attack us. Such weapons will only be used to mass murder world wide for profit. Of course you can say that is in the interest of the USA who is the master of this world wide mass murder, but for sure not in the interest of the world.
@@christopherdavis9996 dude, noone wants to leave NATO.
i like the fact that the missinformation about the g36 is still a thing these days ... G36 is a rly good rifle. The "problem" about not shooting staight accured during a 12h (maybe more) firefight in Afghanistan. Every AR15 or AK platform rifle would suffer the same problems, not only "would" they actually do suffer from the same. The Eurofighter is "one" of the modern fighters we have, it has so much tech in it, only 1 Error Message on the Systems and its considered not "ready" to use/fight.
Im glad to see that we spent more money on the Bundeswehr now, but keep hearing that stupid arguments about the G36 is annoying. Every gun would lose accuracy under hot weather conditions and 12h+ firefight.
.. and the pic is showing an AR instead of the G36. Hate it, when research not solid. I then start questioning the rest.
The thing is you are actually wrong too - the issue with the g36 is not only from excessively long fights. The issue was recreated in the lab here in Germany.
The issue was cheap ammunition that did not meet the basic requirements for the gun causing it to heat up excessively
@@nnnik3595 as someone who shot the g36 I hardly disagree. It's an incredible rifle with rly good accuracy.
@@mariobauer73 As mentioned in the description, I don't use actual footage as a lot of it is copyrighted. As for the G36, just checked and there is plenty of copyright free footage. So I could have done better there - ill take it into consideration for my next video. Thanks for pointing it out.
@@nnnik3595 Wasn't there something with the American M16 when it was introduced in Vietnam, wrong powder in the ammunition and therefore high losses due to jamming?
But I'm glad that the G36 were still able to shoot in Afghanistan ;-)
In Afghanistan Vehicles weren't "operational" when TÜV (inspection) was overdue... so German Soldiers weren't allowed to use them due to insurance reasons... So we lend them to other nations, wich had noch problem using them... ;) If shit gets serious, most of the stuff will be operational... magically... ;) We are great in overthinking stuff if nothing is on the line, wich sometimes leads to stuff others just have to shake their heads to but if it get's serious, german pragmatism kicks in and sh... hits the fan ...^^
"n Afghanistan Vehicles weren't "operational" when TÜV (inspection) was overdue... so German Soldiers weren't allowed to use them due to insurance reasons" This is the most german thing i will hear this week. XD
Your point on pragmatism is absoultely true, however. Once there is a catalyst to clear away (badly designed and bureaucratic) processes and (inexplicably useless over engineered) flows, German attention to detail, desire to perform well in the eyes of their peers and do their part, and the infallable german pragmatism assert themselves.
I am very happy to hear scholz's decision and hope very much the Bundeswehr gets it (mostly) right and modernizes. Europe needs a strong Germany in all ways.
The most war ready army aka strongest army in Europe is Turkish army by very far, then comes French and British armies!! While German army is quite down in the list, some ''experts'' act like it is all about spending but in reality it isn't at all. It is about EVERYTHING from training to spending and most importantly experience. Turkish army has the most experience by far as it has been operating in many different countries from Libya to Syria and Somalia and actually engaging in not just assymetric warfare against militants with thousands of atgms also even Russian forces directly!! And this is the reason why their drones are so effective as they experienced what Russian systems could do including EW and further developed their drones. Germany with it's mighty industry can catch up quite easily but it requires more efforts than simply increasing budget. They need to come down to the ground and engage against enemies like Turkey does for years but ofc i really doubt it could happen while most of the west are still crying as ''we can't start WW3''. Turkey destroyed literally HUNDREDS of Russian vehicles but somehow WW3 didn't begin!! Russia doesn't want to start WW3 as much as we do so this can't be an excuse to give them a free hand everywhere...
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Sorry that i have to disagree on that but the only thing the turkish army ist Best, is on how NOT to operate a tank properly... ok, the Russians seem to bee much worse as we see right know. :D The french and british are by faaaaaar more experienced in every military aspect. The turkish Drones are a good midfield option that has good price / performance Ratio but there are a lot of other Drones that would do exactly the same Damage to the russian Tanks. The reason that they are prominent right know is the pure fact, that they are cheap enough so ukraine could afford them... not because they are one of a kind. Sorry but yout comment seems a little bit "patriotic". ;)
Aber selbst in Kriegszeiten dürften Geräte ohne TÜV nicht benutzt werden.....
@@m0ng0b0t Nope, im not patriotic at all rather you have no idea about military engagements! For example you claim Turkish army doesn't know how to operate tanks because of their only 20 tanks were damaged in Syria but care to share how many American tanks were damaged in Iraq because of atgms, ieds etc?? Literally HUNDREDS!! Because western media didn't share their photos and footages constantly you jokes know it as US didn't loose many tanks in Iraq or Afghanistan etc but in reality they did and you can reduce your ignorance a little bit by searching their photos or footages ;)
I live in Europe. Im completely fine with Germany as superpower. We need a strong Europe to "survive" in the world with the big boys. Germany can change that as new superpower in Europe or as leader. I hope Germany gets the respect they deserve. Times who Germany conquered others is over, so they don't invade other countries (anymore) but will protect Europa for a strong and stable EU.
I would love to see Germany having a Aircraft carrier named Graf Zeppelin
The thing is Navies are no longer a necessity in Europe. The reason everyone downsized navies post-WWII stems from two reasons.
A: Colonies were becoming independent and no longer needed to be protected by a large fleet.
B: Ships are expensive to build and upkeep.
If Germany wanted to they could build a large navy. The thing is they don't need it. Compared to other nations their coastline is very small, especially after their partitions in the 1900s. Coastal defense is pretty much all their navy is meant for, which means having a carrier is unnecessary. Carriers are meant to project naval dominance to distant regions nowadays, and Germany simply doesn't need to do that. At most they'll probably build a Landing Helicopter Dock or Landing Helicopter Assault ship and call it a day.
@@rebelgaming1.5.14 navies are still necesary
Or better still, Led Zeppelin!
@@hx20games77
But not the kind that uses aircraft carriers. At least not for Germany.
I see us fighting pirates or blockade a harbour to enforce an embargo.
The ability to project air superiority far from Germany is far too expensive.
@@joshhoep9777 It's debateable if the names had that much to do the Nazi party for most of these ships. Especially as a lot of the Kriegsmarine's ships were planned/built before 33.
Graf Zeppelin is just pretty popular in many contemporary videogames for example. Look at World of Warships or the ton of Gacha games.
well, all the numbers are correct. But you have to keep on mind, if 50% of all equipment is not working correctly that means something very different in Germany compared to russia. A helicopter whos paint job is not flawless is probably grounded in Germany. Because it has to be perfect. -_-
True :) And there are different sources saying different things.. So we definitely need to consider these values with some caution.
Yes we are very correct , lol .
exactly. if the TÜV said 'no' then it does probably still work fine but may not get used.
No true, half the radio equipment is not only outdated from the 1980´s but just does not work, so soldiers have to buy their own shit. Same goes for clothing and other sutff. The inefficiency is just staggering. BW ist just like any other German buracracy branch xD
@@lhuras. So why then say no ? It is this mentality which is a problem. The German army is exactly the type of people you never finished the Berlin airport.
Based on my experience in the business world, I think one of the first things to do is stop spending money on consultants. The only thing they actually know how to do is run up their fees.
Thank you. That's what I mean ✌️
We need to hire consultants on how to avoid overpaying consultants.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming yes and of course the result of the consultancy is that more consultation is needed. 😄
yes.. there are occupations that exist because they self perpetuate and create a need for themselves when a bureaucracy is not managed well
they have an incentive to keep their job after all, so they will do everything to keep and create the need for themselves as it is
Well I think Ursula von der Leyen took them with her to the EU, where she now wastes other peoples money on them. XD
As a german i can only say that the most germans doesnt even want to fight or help ukraine... the politicans says and want that, but not the whole country
The 100bn Euros is meant to boost defence spending to above 2 percent of GDP, it's not the one-off fund that everyone expected.
Also, all of the Euro and Dollar comparisons should really be at purchasing-power-parity.
Third, the German Army will declare a vehicle not operational if an indicator light doesn't work. German standards are higher than those in much of the rest of the world.
Good points.
I already covered the 100 billion euro in my sticky post. And using PPP is also an interesting idea.
@@EUMadeSimple I wanna add to this that chancellor Scholz and president Steinmeier made it constitutional law that our spending has to be at a minimum of 2% starting with the one-off funding of €100bn.
@@benanjerris6744 Neither one of them is even able to "make law", and afaik this hasn't happened in parliament either
@@hansmuller1846 I don't think you are aware of how politics work in germany. Any law proposed has to be approved by the president. If the chancellor decides on a law that is to be made constitutional and gets approved by the president then it's pretty much both of the making a new law. Besides that, the president holds the power to create and approve any law he desires without talking to the Bundestag, since he is still the reigning entity, just because he doesn't do it doesn't mean he can't do it. What a jester you are.
@@benanjerris6744 The Bundestag has to approve every law before the Bundespräsident can sign anything. The Bundeskanzler can‘t make laws by his own, but he can propose them to the Bundestag.
France and the UK have islands and territories all around the world, obviously they have way more of a need for a navy capable of power projection (e.g. Falklands War) than Germany. The German island the furthest away is Heligoland which is roughly 43 miles away from the German coast and thus obviously within range of helicopters and fighter jets from the main land.
There’s basically also not much of a differentiation between destroyers and frigates, for example the three German Sachsen class frigates replaced the three old German Lütjens class destroyers. The Sachsen class is basically in every regard more capable and also larger than the destroyers it replaced, yet of course it means that Germany has 0 destroyers as it calls all of its larger surface combatants frigates.
The focus of the German Navy during the Cold War was also primarily littoral combat, the most obvious job for the German Navy in a war would have been to blockade the Soviet Baltic Fleet and the other navies of the Warsaw Pact. West Germany had around 40 fast attack crafts and 70 minehunters (which of course can also lay mines), as well as more than 20 attack submarines for operations in the Baltic Sea. Some frigates and destroyers were also available mainly for escort duties in the Atlantic.
With the end of the Cold War the focus of course shifted somewhat towards peacekeeping (e.g. UNIFIL off the coast of Lebanon) and anti-piracy operations (e.g. Somalia), which is why the four F125 class frigates are huge (and can operate far away for up to two years before they have to return for maintenance) but not very well armed for conventional warfare.
The role of the fast attack crafts was basically taken over by corvettes of which Germany has currently 5 in service and 5 more got ordered in 2017 and will enter service in the next years.
The major surface combatants will thus be frigates and corvettes.
Awesome explanation... Didn't know all of this and may use some of the content for a future video :) thanks !
Yeah well sure America wouldn't mind letting Germans make a military base on some territory/island they own just more protection then. America has bases in other countries too.
The F125 class frigates are armed multi-purpose transport ships more than warships.
Anyhow, the whole German system of the military being civil servants in uniform is stupid and useless. It's not a proper military, it's just a bureaucratic mess, with no clear purpose.
Germany has been castrated after ww2, they should get rid of the military and pay that 2% to the Americans , so they can keep their bases and protect Germany.
🇬🇧 and 🇫🇷 are the enemy’s of the world 🌍 the slave owners you think we don’t know 🤷♂️
@@brettk9316 Lol.
Umm, just for clarification: The German Grundgesetz, the German constitution, actually forbade ANY German military operations outside German territory unless demanded by an ally as part of the NATO defensive clause, or other similar international bilateral contracts. This applied ESPECIALLY to any kind of aggressive operation launched by any of the participants.
No more aggressive military action was to have its origin from German territory ever again, as defined by our constitution.
Germany's army was to be ONLY a defensive army, not meant to project force outside its borders.
The only exception of German military participation outside German territory was if German military units were part of a mixed UN peace-keeping force.
Thus the participation among military operations such as in Afghanistan and Iraq were not only highly controversial in Germany, but literally broke our constitution as neither had either a NATO mandate nor was it part of a defensive contract.
As so few people actually knew this it is crucical to understand the constant reduction of German military power. Claims that Germany was slacking behind came from those two significant stipulations in our constitution, not from our inability or unwillingness to participate.
These stipulations were part and parcel of the requirement in the changes to the Grundgesetz that were discussed in the 1950's among the three western Allied powers that allowed West Germany ANY rearmament at all, under the NATO pact. Until then West Germany simply had not been allowed ANY military forces. None At All! Period.
These stipulations were accepted among West Germany's population as necessary to keep the peace, and especially any European powers from becoming nervous at a rearmed Germany.
Germany strictly kept to these stipulations and talked about its military with its NATO allies each and every time. Reducing its military was done in FULL cooperation with other NATO allies during the 1990's and 2000's.
So to now frown at Germany when we try to stick to our constitution as it was handed to us by the powers that be is quite hypocritical, don't you think?
Yes, there was a NATO contract that stipulated an increase of military budgetary spending to 2% of GDP, but that had its final target of 2% by 2024. That's something that Trump simply failed to recognized when he always harped about Germany failing to 'pay it's NATO dues'. First off, there NEVER were payments to NATO. Never. Not by a single nation. Ever. Second: the target of 2% was a final target to be reached by 2024. Not before. That the USA always reached it is part of the military-governmental cooperation but had nothing to do with other nations. How other nations were supposed to reach those targets, and when, was not described in the contract, except the final year of 2024.
What is always ignored is that the rental costs of multiple US bases in Germany are simply foisted off on Germany, but not considered as part of the military spending of Germany. If those had been taken in as lost revenue for Germany, then Germany would have easily been above the 2% target since the late 1950's. Just to consider those numbers, for a change.
Now, Germany will not only reach that target in 2022, but it will have increased its spending to roughly 3% of its GDP, and it will spend a total of 100bn € in addition to its yearly increase to cover its previous failures. So at 3% the total spending power of German military could put it on par with China.
When it comes to military equipment readiness status, these are defined by peace-time stats. Any LED lighted button not lighting up means that the entire vehicle is considered unready for military action, by German technical peace-time standards. While this doesn't mean that the German equipment currently is actually working as intended in percentages that are actually good, it is far better than demonstrated by the statitistics.
Yes, there are certain failures in some equipment, but some standards can simply be ignored.
For example, the new Puma IFV had certain limits of inner vehicle gases that were considered harmful to pregnant female soldiers if inhaled for a long time. This applies for peace-time training for pregnant female soldiers, obviously. But in war times, such issues would simply be ignored. Inhalation of certain gases from firing ammunition, or maybe even exhaust fumes, are definitely among the least of the problems the crews will worry about. In war time, you simply would not send out pregnant soldiers in an IFV, and if they volunteered then they will know about the potential issues.
In that case they want a fast, nimble, powerful, defensible vehicle. And THAT'S what the new Puma definitely brings to the battlefield.
Just to give you an example of how certain limitations of peace-time regulations affect the actual readiness state of German military equipment.
The Grundgesetz is not a constitution. It is a "general law".
You would know if you would have read it yourself. It's clearly written there.
Man went off an a rant
@@KubusSc7 Now thats an Argument the extreme Right uses, although the Grundgesetz wasnt intended as a Constitution by the point it was written because Germany was divided at that time, is a perfectly normal constitution, definitly better than the American Constitution for example :)
@@KubusSc7 The Grundgesetz IS our constitution. The BVerfG (Federal Contitutional Court) for example watches over the correct implementation of the constitution, the Grundgesetz.
Do I have to say more?
@@husky_clan9455 You have not a single clue.
Let's wait and see!
When I was with the Bundeswehr in 1982-83, Germany had around 550,000 soldiers under arms at all times. With reservists, you would have had 1.2 million men in a few days. In the years from 1991, the Bundeswehr was saved badly. Barracks were closed. Munitions for tanks and artillery have been reduced. The Bundeswehr only had operations abroad, such as in Afghanistan, Mali or at sea in Somalia. National defense was completely neglected. I think the shock is deep and one remembers to rectify these errors as quickly as possible. But the first signs are encouraging that things are really changing. But it will certainly take some time
Looking at ukraine, you can use bmws and mercs to transport troops....speed through autobahn at 200kph...and g-wagon 😂😂😂
Of course; the West won the Cold War and the troops weren’t needed. I recall in the early 90s the US were repatriating 5000 troops a week and families. They went from 700,000 troops in Western Germany with thousand of nuclear weapons to about 30,000 today and no nuclear weapons. The Russians are lame in claiming NATO moved east. The over million foreign troops along with German military mostly went home. They just don’t want exist anymore.
We won.
A good thing.
We can just hope that there will be time for that when Russia will start attacking EU
Well, the Two Plus Four Agreement limits the number of active soldiers to 370,000. So, rearmament has its limits.
@@Hilariusgamer Russia is not even able to attack one country. If they attack the EU they will get their 70s tanks and planes demolished rapidly.
Everyone Gangsta Until An Austrian Painter Becomes The Chancellor
I just hope that this money doesn't go on more bloody consultants.
That criticism about consultants is somewhat ridiculous as for example in the first half of 2019 when this „scandal“ was reported 70% of the money (109 million Euros out of 155 million Euros) that was paid to consultants went to BWI, which is 100% owned by the German federal government and provides IT support to the German military and other agencies.
It goes to planners, consultants, planning consultants, printer paper, printer toner for the plans and printer maintenance.
Let's be honest, the Bundeswehr will not see one cent form this money.
The German government will drag this on until the war in Ukraine is over, then they'll say we now have peace forever and forget about it.
Well Putin forgot to listen his consultants is a bad idea to "special operation" in Ukraine.
The problem are not the consultants, but the ridiculous bureaucracy imposed by the law that slows everything down, and increases costs.
Fun fact: getting all needed ammunition would cost circa 20 Mrd Euros, so from the 100 Mrd there are 80 left (inflation not counted) and with this 80 you won’t get all that shit running again. Sry as a german I need to say our military is a shit show, not due to the military or personnel itself but to your great great politicians
If you ask career soldiers about the state of the Bundeswehr :
- Equipment in bad shape to the point of unusable, outdated or, in the very most cases, completely missing although direly needed
- bureaucracy blown up to the point of being worse than a comedy, and not just ineffective, but being the absolute main cost factor and reason for enlisted soldiers leaving the army
thats the main points, but they are enough to block any sense and effort within.
This is the first comment I read here which makes sense. I can absolutely confirm everything you say. I didn´t pursue a career with the German army exactly because of those reasons.
Radio equipment from the 1980´s, half the stuff does not work. Half our Tanks had issues and would not function. Spare parts missing. The food was a joke. To get the most simple things like a pair of new boots you need to fill out a 25 paper report and send it in via fax to just never hear back from them and buy you own stuff. It is just a joke really.
Money will not fix it.
I would love to hear more about the experience of the soldiers on the ground, as opposed to outsiders speculating about what the numbers coming from the german gov mean
@@smoothjazz2143 I was in the German Air Force in 98/99. The training equipment was old, but perfectly functioning and more than good enough for basic training.
When you are getting deployed you get the latest and of course perfectly functioning equipment.
Food was ok, not 5 star restaurant quality but never had a reason to complain. ( and I’m a picky eater)
All that said, it also always depends on where you are stationed at and what unit you belong to, but that’s the same thing in almost every army…
Another thing I wanted to mention is, that the idea of team of teams was already well established back then.
As an Ex-German Soldier, i can tell you, we had so much problems mith our equipment at the end of the 90'th. No general, no minister of defence could handle it, because there was no backup from the goverment or the population in Germany for us. As sad as it sounds, the attack of Russia against the Ukraine was the best ever could happen for the German Bundeswehr. All the years we tried to explain, that we have extrem problems, noone want to hear that. Now they are shocked they have to face these problems.
is it tho ? because it is the typical bs brd response put enough money to fix the Problem and hey lets just add another Brigade of bureacracy because this definitly helped the troops in the past
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@@EUMadeSimple but will European be able ro decide their own foreign policies? 😂 i think not… otherwise few steps- USA will use media to damage image of democracy… then declare you electoral autocracy and invade it and prove that USA never inavde democracy 🤣
@@EUMadeSimple Europe need to get independent policy and keep UK alone with USA… Includ russia in partnership instead of isolating and threatening like USA does… it’s just keep IS BULLYING alive… if Europe can do these… we indian can take peaceful breaths… otherwise we can’t trust anyone in Europe except France… your threat is china…
@@EUMadeSimple Germany is the sixty strongest NATO member out of 30
Sixth
Germany needs an Army of 350 000 men and 350 000 men Reserve. In 27 Divisions (6 Panzer, 2 Motorised Rifle,
3 Cavalry, 2 Air Born, 12 Infantry and 2 Mountain Divisions). Plus 25 000 men Navy and 25 000 men Air Force. With 123 War Ships (With 18 Frigates, 18 Destroyers, 9 Corvettes, 18 Patrol Boats, 6 Mine Hunters, 9 LS T, 3 LSV, 18 Transport Ships, 3 Oilers, 3 Supply Ships, 18 Submarines). Also 300 War Playns (With 150 F/A -18F in 8 AD Sqds, 150 F-16 F in 8 AD Sqds., 150 F-35 C in 8 AS / Recci Sqds, 150 Miraz F3 in 8 Group AD Sqds. Plus 24 C -130E, 48 CN-276 , 6 C - 130C RF, 6 AWACS, 36 Training Playns.
The G36 "scandal" is a joke. Severe overheating of the barrel causes every assault rifle to be less accurate. The test conditions are pretty extreme. It's still perfectly fine for the job. Not a sniper rifle or perfect, but a very comfortable and well designed assault rifle.
German American here... Thank you Germany for increasing your military spending. We need you strong. We need your technology and your extremely advanced scientists.
Dont complain if we having a fun time again, last time we had fun the whole world complained about it in 1939...
you're romanticizing people such as Von Braun. where is their modern Von Braun? Maybe leave the WW2 section of German history. This isn't operation paperclip.
US 🌈DE🌈 Dude, we can triple or quadruple the investment. If nobody wants to fight, the best material is useless. Apart from an overflowing bureaucracy. We have seen the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the West is war-weary. The armor only serves to deter and compensate for inner impotence.
@@Eminem200FBI damn what a good joke. haha. and that also in the time where war is back in the eu for the first time.
Well last time we build up our army.. it needed US, Britain, Franz AND Russia to stop Germany so... one Question Russia.... how do you think you could stop US, Britain, Franz, Germany and God knows how many more countries all by yourself? As a German I know that "allone against all"... dosn´t work so well... tried that twice... and I really start to feel a little proude that we FINALLY will become strong again and this time can be a PROTECTOR of the free world... and not the attacker... :)
I would be carefull when it comes to readiness numbers of hardware. The Bundeswehr has adopted some funny regulations from the civilian world which might have some influence on these said numbers in certain areas. Lets only take two examples from the new IFV Puma, the hatch is not allowed to open while the vehicle is moving and the air inside has to be so clean that it suits pregnant women.
I know i know you might think that proper parking before shooting is just a typical german thing and an angry pregnat female Panzergrenadier might kill a hundret enemy soldiers all alone even with a rifle that cant shoot straight, but... i highly doubt that this is officially part of the doctrin...^^
XD ".......an angry pregnat female Panzergrenadier might kill a hundret enemy soldiers all alone even with a rifle that cant shoot straight.........." XD thanks! I only can say: thanks for that great contribution to the the internet.🤣
" the hatch is not allowed to open while the vehicle is moving and the air inside has to be so clean that it suits pregnant women." - That press release was funny as heck, but it's not true. The guy read the wrong safety regulations, and it became a meme.
The primitive barbarism of sending women into War in a already declining population. One of the great things the "Liberators" have brought us to make us go extinct when they bring us WW3.
Also article 120 of our constitution still says: we have to pay for all costs of the allied occupation. Still paying for american bases in Germany because germany is free, right?
I am sad, as an German, that they aren't going to buy an aircraftcarrer.
Germany has one of the most modern weapon systems in the world, because they are the one making it. I have no doubt the Bundeswehr can be one of strongest army in Europe within 3-5 years. They are like sleeping lions, better don't test them.
so is bhutan and 100 other countries.
nah, man. Have you heard, recently the German defence delegation went to ISrael to check out their missile defence system, because Germany has the old Patriot system, which is just completely outdated. The only thing Germany actually still makes is tanks, and barbed wire for Saudi Arabia. Everything else, including the Tornado jets is just modified american stuff or prototypes for the US army.
@@thomasmann4536
very different systems with different capabilities AFAIK
@@thomasmann4536 so we overlook the leopard 2a6 which is arguably the best mbt in the world, the ifv puma that is argubaly the best ifv in the world, the Tiger attack helicopter which is a VERY capable helicopter, the different types of ammunition we are leading at and the mantis air defence system which is ahead of its time? and lets not forgett the pzh 2000 here which is still state of the art
@@lordgammadonkaargon2830 you mean the leo 2a6 which the canadians rejected as their new MBT in favor of the american abrams bc that one was just better in the field tests (aside from the abrams having A LOT more actual combat experience)? The puma? You mean, the BY FAR most expensive IFV in the whole world? The IFV that will only be ready in 2030 because it has so many technical issues it cant possible be even used yet? The Tiger which is produced by Airbus which isnt even a German company?
I mean, come on, before you write anything, do your research please.
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great to have you onboard and thanks for the nice comment. Ive also integrated my sources into the video in my latest content. Hopefully that makes it even clearer :)
I didn't even know Germany is gonna be the third-largest military spender in the world that is crazy
@@BluEclipse94 lol stop living in he past brother
@@BluEclipse94 If u dont see how the world changed after ww2, you should take some history lessons my friend.
@@BluEclipse94 please man... shut down your PC/Smartphone, go out of your House and touch some Gras.
@@FAL87 best! xD
@@FAL87 YESS too many Youngstter suffer from Internet DegenarTye nowadays
Ah thank you for being a human being and not some robotic voice. I love watching documentaries, biographies, and informative vids and it's awesome we get them for free on TH-cam but I just can't do the robot 🤖 voice narrator thing
Thank you :)
✅ Building up the economy
✅ Building up the military to be the strongest of Europe by far
❌ Make your local austrian painter chancellor
The deeper problem with Germany was not simply how much or what percentage of their GDP they were spending, but where was the money that they were spending going? Even at 1.4% GDP they should have seen much better results. Their total spend was not that far outside France and the UK’s. But they have Navy’s. Nuclear Forces, expeditionary Forces. Larger, actually operational Air Forces, and Aircraft Carriers. Germany has none of that to purchase and maintain. Where has the money been going? Looking at the Puma development history may offer a clue. The vehicle looks like it finally might be worthwhile, 10 years late, and with cost overruns that would make even an American queasy. And that’s for a GOOD program that actually resulted in a useable combat vehicle. How much more has been needlessly pissed away on vapor ware projects? Because wherever the money was going, it clearly wasn’t going to the soldiers and their gear. The German Military will need more than simply a budget increase to fix. It will need a top to bottom audit and spending review.
The Puma was so expensive and it took so long, because the technology they wanted to use kept evolving at a rapid pace, and they wanted to have the newest tech, that meant a lot of other changes to implement that tech. Then there is the IDZ system that allows the dismounted troops to communicate with the vehicle, that also cost a lot of money and time, but that can be implemented in other vehicles too, so it was worth it. Also Puma's turret can be used on different platforms, so that's another plus.
The Puma is fully operational since February 2021.
If you look at the Lynx IFV, it's a whole different story, because that vehicle uses off the shelf parts ,not custom made parts like the Puma, yet the company benefitted a lot from the experience they gained from the Puma.
A problem with the budget is that a lot of it wasn't spent on the military, but on refugee aid. By some stupid reason, helping refugees is considered defense expense in Germany.
Unfortunately no one will be able to fix the bureaucratic mess that is their military procurement office. That needs to be killed with fire, and they should just copy a system that works. But that's the problem, Germans are too stubborn to just copy another system, so they will continue uselessly burning money on nothing.
Agreed. At least you are wide awake in this otherwise "woke" world.
One of the biggest problem is that the German Armee wants to buy '' made in Germany '' Equipment. One reason is to keep Expertise and Jobs in Germany and Europe, the other is to prevent Dependance. When it comes to Gas and oil they does not care..... stupid buggers... Most of the time it is cheaper to buy what is already available on the defence market. Germanies industry would still benefit from it for planes, helicopters, trucks, mbt, ifv, apc....... bought from the USA, GB........ would be licensed build in Germany. There would be same exceptions to the rule when it comes to very sensetive tech like the f35. Keep it simple but not stupid.
@@frankwesthoefer8062 In order to buy '' made in Germany '' , Germany has to export that equipment, to offset the costs.
But Germany has stupid retarded and absurd export rules, meant to shoot itself and its defense industry in the foot.
Anyway you look at it, it always comes back to the... Curse of the German Bureaucracy !
Seriously now, fix your damn bureaucracy and the country would be 100% better.
@@scratchy996 its not "germans are" stuboorn the main issue is that our military is run by politicans not military experts. the defense minister (who is the supreme commander of the military)has not had an idea of defense in the last two decades, because they are chosen from known party figures as a bargaining chip in coalition negotiations. Thats why the current minister of defemse is a lawyer who had no connection or prior experience before she got the position. You actually need somenone competent in charge who wants to improve it, not a politican who only cares about their image. Copying a system would be an admission of guilt which would get them blamed for everything that happens afterwards (sadly how change in germany works)
I guess it should be mentioned that Germany usually just goes shopping in the premium sector. They usually buy their own stuff that is more modern then the ones from the competition and they nearly always want their own modifications to it. Their main focus has been to fight in Afghanistan where they had good equipment but also found out that a lot of stuff needed upgrades and a lot of money was their for spent on upgrades and not on maintenance of the other systems back home. The whole army wasn’t even built to operate outside of the country so I guess it will take some time to make it ready for a wide range of missions.
@EXO0 "The whole army wasn’t even built to operate outside of the country"
Exactly. That was the whole point of "never again". Germany has consequently taught all its pupils in every school repeatedly about the atrosities committed by Germans and taught them to make sure something like this could never be done again by Germans which is why the army was designed to defend Germany and not fight anywhere else.
You're right - the last decades our army was just planned for protection - not for leaving the country. So we started slow with Afghanistan and now we're preparing for Russia. Again. Part 3 of the series. That's a strange feeling for us pazified Germans, y'all have to understand.
@@ratatosk8935 we dont "prepare for russia".
We prepare for defense germany.
@@timetraveller143 In the moment - it's the same.
@@timetraveller143 hahaha the US wants to start War with russia and china since the 1950s. Just look at all the proxy War against "communism" from south america to Asia and Africa.
Just look at who is profitting from the Ukraine War and is drumming the Wardrum the most. Just look at who will lose the Least when WW3 happens and who has prepared the most with hundreds of huge government bunkers all around america.
Russia is only a Threat to USA led NATO because they dont follow their tune. Same with china and north korea and iran and formerly lybia and iraq. Anyone not following the orders of Washington is a enemy. Its hilarious. Article 120 of german Grundgesetz says that you have to still pay for the american occupation and their Bases in germany lmao
I’ve realised you are very german centric. My opinion is germans don’t want a larger military or even want to go to war. So finding people fit for military service voluntarily.
The G36 is still one of the best weapons available. It only got made defectious by the media based on orders of our former minister of defense (now unfortunately head of the European Commission!).
And the German term "Klarstand" doesn´t necessarily mean "not combat ready" it prescribes instead minor disfunctionalities with the equipment and that a small part of all this is only directly functional without any lackings and therefore fully combar ready.
The "Klarstand" of any army in the world isn´t at any point higher than 40% of all its available equipment. At least, that´s what I once read...
The g36 overheats quickly. Good precision thats all. Even the classic AK74 is better....
@@xkky6126 H&K tested IT with firing Up to eighthundred rounds before the barrel became to hot.
@@bieneulm1982 only if the weather conditions are good. Its a shit weapon
@@xkky6126 you're talking to much nonsensical.
@@bieneulm1982 you are a joke. Its a shit weapon an everyone knows it. I used this weapon 1000 times in the bundeswehr you little joke
Germany: * Gets more powerful over the years *
Europe: *Sweating*
Always have to remember Volker Pisper's quote: "The job of the Bundeswehr is to hold off the enemy until the army arrives."
do you mean "... until the Ami (=American) arrives." ?
@@tobyk.4911 I think so.
That is the plan against the sovjet union having their tank army in thuringia, it is not what you would see against Russia, then Poland has to hold position.
@@tobyk.4911 no. this was a reference to the german constitution (Grundgesetz) where it says something like the Bundeswehr shall hold off the enemy until the (german) army gets there. German laws and minds have been build to oppose war and warefforts, this weird distinction of the Bundeswehr and a "real" german army was one of those outcomes initiated in the constitution-building process. back then they still had no idea where anything was or should be going, they just knew : "never again do we want to engage/start war".
maybe thats why they imagined the Bundeswehr as a solely defensive band. Later it became the real thing due to the cold war situation.
@@takaetono6773 I don't understand what you try to say here ... The Bundeswehr is the German army,. therefore any distinguishing between "Bundeswehr" and "German army" seems meaningless (or should I say ... shizophren?)
As a german citizen, I don't have any trust in it. I mean look at our defense minister. She literally looks like a kindergarten teacher 😂😂😂
The German Sachsen class frigate is generally considered a destroyer internationally due to size, armament, and role. The UK is also in dire straits when it comes to their naval forces as they are currently under pressure due to the snails pace at replacing older units. The may have 2 new Aircraft Carriers, but their escorts are lacking considerably. The Daring class destroyers and the older Type 23 only add up to 18 ships, with no replacements ready for the soon to be retiring Type 23. The new type 26 is still years away. Germany has always had a small Navy by comparison to the UK and France, but it is time they put some real emphasis on making it more modern and capable.
That’s not completely true. As each type 23 is decommissioned it will be replaced by a like for like replacement of the type 26 or type 31 frigate. Not to mention the type 32 frigate is planned which will increase the Royal Navies surface fleet to 24 modern warships.
@@adamking4538 Unfortunately the 1st type 26's will not ready until 2026 with only HMS, Cardiff. The 3rd "Belfast" only had the steel cut last summer. The type 23 HMS Monmouth has already being decommissioned and 3 more have already been sold to Chile, so they are already not replacing them. A lot of the issues are currently no available crews and with the UK parliament not increasing the military budget, I cannot see this changing anytime soon. One can hope with the current crisis going on the MP's will get off there arse's and start paying attention the military again as it's not only the Navy that is suffering.
as i French, i would welcome this as a good new. France is the only big military power. With Germany at its peak, we would fear nothing for any territory inside the EU.
So, yeah, it's time to rearm now.
Yup France is indeed the only large military power in the EU but not in Europe as a whole ofc
bon alors. Jean nous a donne le feu vert.
Fritz, Manfred! LOS GEHT`S! We back in the game!
See you in 5 to 10 years when we ready.
@Mike he said in the EU, not in europe, even though EU is technically the abbreviation for Europe its pretty clear hes using it to refer to the European union, if he meant Europe then it would be extremely foolish to say France is the only power especially considering Britain has a stronger military than France.
@@v_cpt-phasma_v689 hmm UK have a comparable army to France but I wouldn’t say that it’s stronger.
@@Boeing777FR France has slightly stronger army but overall UK military is undeniably stronger.
“To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” - NATO
Germany's own army admitted they would be unable to protect the population in case of a war and that they are unprepared overall.
With The Russian military performance in the Ukraine Germany can cut back spending on its military.
Thank you very much for this video.
I really believe that Germany and the European Union needs to focus on buinding their own defence capabilities outside of NATO!
Now living in NZ for 15 years after struggeling from PTBS, after 8 years fighting alongside great soldiers across many different nations, I witnessed in 1998 Bosnia and 2002 in Kosovo how the German Army struggled to refocus on what their future focus should be after the cold war had ended.
Lots of very smart people and consulting firms were engaged to define the future "Feindbild" of the Bundeswehr after the cold war ended. I worked for a number of years for some of them before finally leaving the country.
The Bundeswehr is an awesome Army, I was privliedged to serve next to many good soldiers, comanders fully motivated to defend decent democratic values with a huge passion.
And with respect of our history and the passion to learn from our past. Everybody who thinks the Budeswehr as threat that history is going to be repeated is completely misinformed and silly!
I hated being spit on standing as soldier at the German train station because our "Gesellschaft" didn't accept that we need a parlamentary Army more than ever before.
I was called a murderer lots of time by Germans.
strangly in Sarajevo under SFOR or Kosovo under KFOR I was never spit upon because people respected us, we helped them.
Now unfortunately Ukraine is under attack, they are fighting for their lives and Europe is split because we are not convinced that NATO is the right institution.
I believe the European battlegroup is exactly what we need to be able to act and help if something threatens our European culture! And Germany and france should take that serious and continue that idea. But Learn from Sweden and Finnland and Norway!!! They are the most amazing Defence Force and power we have to partner with. One of the main items is that we have no problem to get more support on helping another country across European Union when somebody in the mid of Europe get cowardly attacked by a dictator. European countries are ready to step up ourselves without being led by US or UK. We stand for European values such need to stand up for them.
Sorry I distracted here, I think your Video was really put things into a good perspective
Kia kaha from New Zealand
Thanks for your input. I also think we need to be less reliant on our allies
Yes, we need a United European Army
Greetings from Germany
Germany's strength has always been in technology, and not numbers. WW2, WW1, in both germany did exceptionally well with exceptionally low numbers, this is because of their technology and skill. Therefore I think it's unfair to compare them with other countries based on numbers, but I think it'd be fairer to compare them to other countries based on technology.
What are you talking about Germany had the third biggest army in ww2 and the second biggest in ww1
the readinesstate of the Airforce is up to80% even before the ukrainian war, the maintainance issues with the tanks and infantry fighting vehicles were cleaned up as well before the ukrainina situation arose and the G36 does shot straight it has always shot straight it is an awesome weapon ... just Mrs. von der Layen did not do proper investigation into this matter, she was very incompetent as a defence minister ...
That is not true with the G36, the rifle itself is accurate yes, but the Polymer housing on the G36A1's Optics does not hold Zero AT ALL, these issues were resolved with the A3 and use of new optics on pic rails, however most don't get to use the A3 in that configuration...
von der Leyen seems to be incompetent at almost everything. Did Germany dump her on the EU just to get rid of her?
@@auburn8833 I have shot thta weapon and it's pre decessor both hold 0 very well even after unloading 400 round through extended magazines nothing happened to that gun
The G36 inaccuracy problem was political theatre drummed up to hurt HK. If you dump 90 rounds through any 1990's pencil barrel after the rifle has already been heating up in the sun for hours the point of impact will inevitably shift.
It looks more like it was to benefit HK. Instead of asking them to replace the composite parts in question, which would have cost the tax payers next to nothing, it was mandated that the G-36 should be scrapped and the Bundeswehr should receive an all new assault rifles for the cost of a few billion Euros.
shot that thing for 6 years, its perfectly working
As many already commented, much of the tech considered not battle-ready has only minor problems like a broken light or whatever. But I think it's also worth mentioning that some is "not battle-ready" not because it's broken some way but because it's currently being modernized/upgrade, for example around 100 Leopard 2 A6/A6M are currently upgraded to Leopard 2 A7V. So not only is it not broken but actively improved.
"Why are the Germans only terrible at war when they are on our side"
Allies, after plundering the Rhineland and the German industrial complex: 🤐
The Germans would be a welcome addition in military technology development.
The Germans, are already a addition in military technology development, in many cases, everybody has its own opinion about some military stuff, from different Nations, but I think, nearly everyone will say, that the Tanks, of the Germans, are the best in the world.
As one of the top 5 weapon / military producers, germany already is involved in development. But that stuff is exported to kill or surpres somewhere else.
sure, the jewel in the crown, especially selling arms and tech to Russia in order to let them slaughter Ukrainian civilians
Quality over quantity should be the premise for the next armament. In Germany we have some of the best defense contractors in the world (e.g. Rheinmetall, H&K, KMW, Hensoldt, etc.) and we make way to little use of their new technologies...
Ah you know, modern technologies, ask the Russians about new technologies T62....I wonder if they not come up with a T34 soon, it's a killer!
If people are worried about the G36 not shooting straight what is their view on AK47 accuracy then. Most rifle barrels when really hot will warp slightly thats why a lot of tournament/sniper rifles have a fluted barrel to mitigate this effect.
G36 scandal has been explained essentially as faked - well, due to faulty ammunition.
To make it short. Never ever.
Germany raising power again...
France and Poland: panic!
Poland is happy, finally Germany is on our side.
U cant compare germany today with germany in the first half of the 20th century. I think most french and polish people who was born and raised in a free europe would love to have a stronger german army to help NATO to save its boarders from russian aggression.
We are happy to have Poland and France on our side.
Poland is not at 1939 levels. Poland can hold its own.
@@ThangTran-bj4we not when Germany says baby its first September vibes
-"German Military will become Europe's most powerful"
-Awh shit her we go again.
I see what you mean 🙃
Insert "Traumatized Mr.Incredible".
I was literally thinking the same meme hHa
Then don't declare war on Germany! Or steal its territory!.
@@BasementEngineer the last thing anyone wants to do is piss off the Germans… Putin better relax! Love Deutschland from America!
First reclaim Konigsberg and then on to Lebensraum once again. Nothing can be worse than Russian hegemony.
Germany makes some of the best weapons in the world. They supply tanks and other military vehicle to many countries around the world. They make the best small arms going and
some of the best air defence weapons around by Rheinmetall. The british army has german small arms . trucks. and now boxer afv. The challenger will soon have a german gun and engine.
Its still one of the best equipped armies in nato.
It’s very fat behind say Finland’s preparation that has been on-going since world wars.
you mention the tanks the Australians had to invent them to keep the Germans back
"They supply tanks and other military vehicle to many countries around the world".......that's right....just look at Greece....loan them billions to buy German arms that they cannot afford....then take the country as compensation....LOL
Germany makes some good weapons. That is all.
@@oldskoolrools3087 they learnt that from the yanks
When germany gets involved you know shit is on..
Well wouldn’t this be an ironic outcome to Vlad’s paranoia about the threat from the West.
Puin knows his task in the Great Game.
@@simontenkate9601 Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.
As an Englishman, I have always admired Germany. We fought the wrong enemy twice, sad! Well I want see Germany strong. Our Saxon brothers
I see what you mean… As a italian I have always admired germans. They are in general very honest and here in Italy find a honest guy is quite hard… I think the german culture and discipline makes the differences between Germany and the others one. About WWII I’m happy that Allies have won the war. Fascism and Nazism have made a lot of crimes (also Allies, but not as Axis has done).
@@kaspardeschain1608 I do not support adolphe, but to me both wars were brother wars. I have worked among Germans, we are just too similar, we can't hate each other. Anyway you are right.
@@user-sn5mw4sh7j Every war is a brother war
@@user-sn5mw4sh7j In fact I can't hate Nations / the entire population. I don't know the individual. How can I hate a stranger? I can hate a specific person that I know. That's the reason I don't hate Russia right now. As a german I wouldn't fight because the other soldier on the other side could be me. In peace time I could have be a friend of him/her. Only because another person I don't know (Johnson, Putin or Scholz) tell me that's my enemy? No it isn't.
A few mistakes that were made here:
(1) There is and never was anything wrong with the G36 rifle. Just look at the final reports or ask any soldier.
(2) 3:16 Germany does not have destroyers because they are not called destroyers, but of course Germany has them. However, Germany does not have overseas posessions to defend.
(3) Germany does not have nukes because of WWII, but it agreed to not posess nukes in the 2+4 treaty (2 German states + France, UK, Russia and US) in 1990, which was necessary to allow German reunification
(4) While some German weapons systems have low operational availability due to lack of spare parts, the operational availability in other countries is not necessarily higher, but Germany is more transparent about it.
(5) The weapons systems that are on Scholz's wish list were not new, but all mentioned in the military planning document (Weissbuch) in October 2021. This also mentions the 100 billion euro as necessary amoutn. But now there is more urgency behind it. Btw, 20bn will just be spent on ammunition.
I was in Swedish militray
I tried almost every rifle in the world..
G36 was and still my favorit one. .
it's sooo underratted rifle
i was going to comment about the hk slander. their guns are great
Guess what: Nothing happend yet...
When you defeat a powerful boss and you unlock it as allies.
But when its an ally, its powered down.
3:04 - 0 warships isn't true. The german navy has 12 frigates I guess. Some of them - like the F222,F223 and F224, are really modern.
0 destroyers. Check the Pinned post for clarification on Frigates. :)
@@EUMadeSimple Cease, please.
Hello,
a small correction from a German:
Germany has nuclear weapons. Although they belong to the USA, they can be disposed of by the German federal government in the event of a defense.
This is exactly what the new aircraft are to be purchased for, which can be adapted to these weapon systems.
Germans dont have any cntrol over nuclear weapons in their own territory. You are incorrect.
@@KubusSc7 You are right, we have no "control" over nuclear weapons.
But are you reading my explanations correctly?
I was talking about the defense case!
If Germany were attacked, in any form whatsoever.
Questions/queries about the "owners" of nuclear weapons on our territory would take too long.
Thus, our government cannot threaten with those arms, but have them at their disposal if an attack had occurred. And the enemy knew it.
A small, but significant difference.
Why else would the US store and service about 30 nuclear warheads in Germany? Because Germany is so huge compared to the USA and the USA unfortunately had no more room for those things?
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Excellent broadcast .
Defence spend and military capability are not directly related. It depends what you spend your money on. So for example you could spend 3 billion Euros on 1000 main battle tanks or 2 billion euros on an aircraft carrier. The aircraft carrier is mobile. 1000 tanks not so much. So despite the fact you've spent more your ability to project power is less. Germany being a continental country could spend more money than the UK but the UK would continue to have a more powerful military since being an island it could concentrate it's defence resources on its navy and its air force. It doesn't need a large army since its air force and navy is capable of blocking any attack from a large continental army whilst at the same time giving it the ability to project power across the world.
An Aircraft Carrier is sunk with one well placed torpedo. Uk has not the necessary ships and even personal to project power.
I think what this article isn't anticipating is that the UK defence spending is being bumped to 3% in the October budget. In addition to that no nation can be considered a P1 military force without nuclear capability. Its just not the same seat at the table. France and the UK will remain Europe's premier military powers not just because of this, it's their all round capability by land, air, sea, logistics and whole host of capabilities that will take Germany two decades to catch up to...and that's assuming France and the UK just stop...which they won't, France will most likely go to 3% as well within 12 months.......Germany was down at just 1.2% in real terms remember....so 100b is a nice bump...but half of that will fix issues ...
No it would not just continue being a stronger military just because its on am island? What if a nato country is under attack and they have to fight in europe?
you´ve planes?
@@jt8083 Yep a very narrow sighted article that only really looks in one direction. Russias actions have ensured every military power will increasingly concentrate on strengthening their forces and as you said the UK and France aren't going to just sit still as its now clear that diplomacy cannot sort out all issues and I think too many world leaders were naive to think it could and subsequently neglecting their military size and effectiveness.
The problem is that you don't simply have a powerful or at least capable military to protect yourself, but to protect your allies as well. The 2% GDP system seems very fair as a standard for military spending.
Yes you make a fair point. Especially when you are part of an organisation (NATO) that has this as a clear guideline
I'd tell the "allies" to go screw themselves. Germany did its damnedest to stop the Soviet Union from invading Europe, and what thanks did it get???
the 2% is nonsense. first step is to analyze you strategic situation. after thes you plan the expenses. this can be far more or less than 2% - depends.
In general I agree, but some things cannot be represented with this model. E.g. if a country invests into military research that is also used in the private sector, building up a manufacturing industry, or mandatory service to have reserves. I guess that is the point of having diplomats to figure out what is fair.
The 2% is a silly goal. Eg, Greece meets this, but their military is more an outdoor labour support program. They spend little on equipment. The UK has more Admirals than warships. Belgium needs to dismiss most of its elderly troops. The Spanish need to spend money of training.
And Germany is so fantastically wealthy that is share of 1.3% provide a massive capacity. A modest increase will greatly amplify their capability.
Maybe it’s time Poland has the worlds strongest military.
Well you know what they say, 3rd times a charm.
Germany has the means and ability to become nuclear capable in les than a year. It is likely the plans for nuclear weapons exist and updated regularly. Japan as well as several other countries are also in the same position.
They already have american nukes in their teretory. But I dont think they will produce their own. Since they shut down all of their nuclear power plants
germany has no interest in having its own nuclear weapons. Even the stationed US-bombs are highly controversial.
Or we jsut ask the french to give us some of theirs. They already offered to station some in germany if germany shares in the nukes maintanance cost. Germany obviously refused this french attempt to shift costs for their nukes. The USA dumps there nukes everywhere for free after all anyway :D
There are already protocols and infrastructure in place for the German Military to throw off US Nuclear Bombs which are stationed within germany, so building up an own nuclear arsenal shouldn't be a big problem
Being able to build some kind of nuke is not the same as having one that can reliably be used. You need a delivery system for that.
Germany has one, designed to deliver US bombs by plane. Which is an incredibly unreliable system in a modern world.
Germany also has submarines that in all likelyhood can be converted easily to fire nuclear-capable cruise missiles. Germany doesn't have those missiles, though. However, aquiring them from Israel could be possible.
USA: "Germany, you can prepare again!"
Germany: "...here we are again, just ready for WW3!"
Yes Marina, so sad. How is it that Germany lets itself be used by the USA! Instead, it should be siding with Russia, or remain completely neutral.
I am so ashamed!!
This time we are on the right side...
@@augusto8821 No, we are not! Not at all!
@@augusto8821 good joke bro, USA started 90% of all Wars since 1945 and also have been in continous War since 1945, sometimes several Wars at once.
Also killed a million civilians in Vietnam, a Million Civilians in Iraq, funded the destruction of Libya and used uranium ammo in iraq still leading to horrible birth defects
The French and UK are spending much of their budget on nukes just like the US. If you subtract those the budget is a lot smaller in conventional weapons.
The us spends 30-40 billion a year on nukes. Not much of their 700+ billion.
But it is good that the UK and France have nuclear weapons. Otherwise the Russians could do whatever they wanted. The Russians are deterred by nuclear weapons.
@@SchwarzKreuz93 How could they do what ever they want when the US has nukes.
@@ark2819 The Americans can't be our babysitters all the time. Europe should also be able to defend itself.
Germany needs to bring back that Prussian standard of military
I am a french officer, currently doing officer training in Germany, and if there IS ont problem, it's the issue of spending money wisely.
The Germans buy TVs in every room for their soldier, civilians are paid to clean the toilet, civilians are paid to ensure the security of the military base, a German rank and file soldier IS paid 2000€, me as french officer 1400€.
So much money wasting from their side... I am already with the moutain infantry since 4 months, and I can ensure you that it is a real catastrophy.
They are not even capable to send one bataillion on a long term mission abroad: a company is the most they can manage.
We french for example sent 5000 soldiers to Mali in a few days during "Opération Serval".
Just to say : Germany is very very far from becoming Europe's strongest military. They only have very little experience of real war, and from this little experience, 90% is defensive experience. Clearly not what makes a strong and operationnal military.
The G 36 is in duty for around 30 years. Every soldier is equiped with an optical sight ranged up to 800 meters and a red dot. It works very well and I had never seen a rifle that failed since I came in touch with this rifle since '97. It is still very handy.
Iconic weapon
"The German military will become Europe's most powerful"
Ah shit, here we go again
Lol. USA congratulates their allies who fought so poorly and surrendered so quickly.
We had the strongest Military in Europe until 1991. We thought there will never be war again, so we figuerd we didnt need a strong army anymore. The USA once said: The only thing that could be dangerous for us is when Germany and Russia were to work together. Be glad that we are on your side. We will always come back up, because we are different than everyone else.
It will be very interesting to see.
Me as a german we dont realy seek the big ang great navy we are focused on landwarfare. Im also not a fan of the F35 i like the Eurofighter more. Our problem is that the Bundeswehr is over bureaucratic to get a sock you have to wait for at öeast 3 months regularly 1 year ...
Our SOF the KSK dosn't have that they send a letter we need this and they get it. That system is planed to be exdended for the hole Bundeswehr, maybe it will come maybe not lets see.
As a German who just read the Comments 😂
No Battlefield experience(I agree but only the last 80 years)but that doesnt matter at all because our way to train our Soldiers is always on Top👍always was and always will be
So lets wait a few Years and there will be no doubt that Germany will become the strongest none nuclear Power in Europe
We got our own Tecnology like always
Own Industrial Capacity and more Money than most Countrys in the World
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German arrogance didn't work out so well for you before.
@@fintonmainz7845 considering their means back then they managed a heck of a close call.
History has other examples that show when Germans choose to unite they can be hella powerful, ever since they crushed the Roman Empire at Theutoburg Forest.
The scary thing is in WW2 their executive issues ran from top to bottom, not from the bottom up.
@@fintonmainz7845 others call it arrogance, we call it facts
" our way to train our Soldiers is always on Top" - that is true, those broomsticks as machine gun replacements make training more realistic.
With the new, increased budget, you will now afford to buy even more broomsticks !
@@fintonmainz7845 as it has been replaced by british and american arrogance and who can tell what will be the arrogant entity in the future? The winner alway seems to claim the right to be the most arrogant. This applied to the Roman Empire, now the UKUS empire, after that the EU empire and who knows the Chinese or the SinoJapanese empire. Everything comes, rises and fades into oblivion.
Carpe diem!!
Germany is like when you unlock a boss in a game to use. Hard to fight but once you get it it becomes really bad
Germany highest priority right now should be its people for whom they need to provide adequate energy resources rather than relying on other countries heavily. The military spending can take a backseat for now, in my opinion!