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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ม.ค. 2017
- Update with new WR (4:55.913): • Super Mario Bros. TAS ...
Comparison video of the current world records of SMB.
TAS (Tool-Assisted Speedrun, human playing with emulator assistance, not in real time) WR: • NES Super Mario Bros. ...
RTA (Real Time Attack, human playing in real-time) WR: • (4:56.878) Super Mario...
The timing difference makes RTA record seem shorter than TAS record, but still, it's close enough.
TAS saves time in 1-2, 4-2, 8-1, 8-2, 8-3, and 8-4, using faster acceleration, going through the wall, flagpole glitch, etc.
TAS is NOT programming.
None of the two runs uses "cheats" of any kind. If you have questions, watch darbian's tutorial: • [Tutorial] Super Mario... - เกม
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Guy: Does very precise jumps and times things very well
TAS: *goes through wall*
and now they go through the walls (search somewes WR speedrun)
It's not even that for me, I mean the TAS made about 10+ fast acceleration pipe jumps and backward bumps because it's still gonna make the frame rule, it's mad
I can do more.
Pap
TAS Bot did flipping Wall Jumps on 8-2
Imagine being so good at Mario you are almost exactly the same as the most optimal frame perfect inputs by a computer
2 yr edit: I know the tas is made by a person but the computer is the one that inputs the button presses
Well, theoretically optimal frame inputs, it hasn't been proven they are perfect
Well nearly 3 seconds behind, but yeah still pretty crazy
Well they are technically inputs by a player, TAS just executes them
Also, why that profile picture? :/
@@biohazard9215 okay technically a human input the commands beforehand, but that's like someone telling their friend how to get from their house to yours. It was still your friend/the machine that performed the inputs.
Also because an AI generated it for me and I liked it so I'm using it as my profile picture
It’s a good pic
3:31 TAS out here wall jumping before it was even a mechanic
Darbian wall jumps in 8-4 aswell!
@@NotBroihon That was run from 2016, the TAS from HappyLee was from 2011. A 5 year standing difference! We might be getting 4:54 later this year who knows!
@@vu5523 yeah, 4:54 seems to be very likely. This is an insane development. Not to mention that the TAS is tied up to 8-4 now...
@@NotBroihon now we got it
@@vu5523 we got it!
3:29 look at the clouds
SpiderArtMC cool
Wow
Woah
WHAT
TRIPPY
mother: dinner is ready
darbian: 5 minutes
-Darbian, we have to go in 5 minutes.
-Just let me finish my game.
adeeb UNORIGINAL SHIT COMMENT
@@user-if1rc5si8r koło
This TAS guy seems to have every world record lol. I wish I could be as good as him.
lmaoooooo
典型的な仮定法である。
wooooshed so hard lmao
Lol_hax it is a person but with the help of a machine. He recrate the scenes fixing normal human mistakes and make it perfect (Obviously he needs a lot of tries to make it perfect). A TAS can take a month to be finished.
r/Wooosh
*Ok you can copy my homework but dont make it look like its the same*
seems legit
I changed the colors slightly, that should be fine.
lol
G_Boy don’t give me the flashbacks to when I let people do this and I got in trouble for cheating.
Aay, 1k like even though nobody really cares. 😁
When you’re wearing headphones and the music is not synced
*CONFUSED SCREAMING*
can agree
can relate
Yeah I thought my headphones were broken or breaking for a minute
Darby is a learning computer created by CyberDyne and sent back in in time to crush Mario ...and then John Conner
Also they are in pair with DataDyne. Cassandra DeVries is in on it too...
AriocKaichi DataDyne was Perfect Dark right? I freaking loved that game on 64!
D'arby the gambler?
Ryroe are you gonna call or fold
Ryroe
*snaps fingers*
GOOD-U!
GO AHEAD, MISTUR JOESTUR!
This just in: Darbian is actually TASbot disguised as a human.
XD
ユージオ 語録使ってホモじゃないって言ってる兄貴オッスオッス
ガチ勢ヒーローズ こんな所のコメントを読んでくれる優しい兄貴がいるなんて…ありがとナス！
Bell
komentoありがとナス！！
JAPAN
5:05 人がTASを超えた魅せプ
Mosnter
TASの方がよっぽど人間らしい瞬間
もうわっけわかんねぇな
TASの方がタイム早いぞ？
@@user-vu2ss7hp2q 早い遅いじゃなくてハンマーの間をすり抜けたってのがすごいってことだよ
3:31 WTF how did he wall climb?! 😱
Tampatec pixel perfect and frame perfect inputs. Easy for tas, but nearly impossible for tas.
Skycloud I think you mean humans
4:36
When you jump at a wall, Mario's position updates every frame based on his momentum until he reaches the wall, (I don't know the actual numbers but for example's sake) say he's moving 4 pixels forward every frame, if he's 1 pixel away from the wall, on the next frame he'll move forward and end up 3 pixels inside the wall, and then the game will detect he's in the wall and on the next frame after that, it will try to eject him.
The game has 'floor detection' every 16 pixels vertically (which is why there aren't any slopes and every block is the same size) so if the player jumps into the wall at a 16 pixel boundary, clips into the wall, and IMMEDIATELY jumps on that same frame before the wall ejection happens, the game will consider Mario to be standing on the very edge of a 'floor' but that's more than enough to jump off of, so you can do a frame-perfect jump off the wall.
If you play the game enough you can actually experience this by running and jumping at a wall over and over again, most of the time Mario will just hit the wall and slide down it smoothly because he impacted the wall in such a way that he didn't clip inside it, or, he didn't clip inside it at a 16 pixel interval, so the game ejected him without him touching a floor. BUT, occasionally you'll see him hit the wall, catch against it briefly, and THEN fall, that's when a wall clip happened, the brief catch on the wall was when a wall jump is possible.
tasvideos.org/GameResources/NES/SuperMarioBros.html#Walljump
think of the 8-4 walljump, but a lot more frequent. Extreme pixel and frame perfect inputs.
5:22 the blocks in the middle of the screen match up so perfectly its amazing
The same thing with the clouds most of the time
Almost Match Up Because The Right One Is A Frame Late
its so closly timed i can cross my eyes and watch them both neck to neck
davidevgen ikr it's like 2 Mario's trying to race each other
Yep. pretty much :P
davidevgen yo holy shit i didnt think that could work lmao
I still don't know which one is the winner lol
HIIIIiiiiIIIII
looks like a glasses commercial
right-before
left-after
π = 3.14159265358
Seems legit
Lol
Baldigamer100 VR 3.1415926535897932384626...
0:49 damn, this TAS guy really be showing off
Yeah, he's joking around and he's even in the end 2.85 seconds ahead, he's a beast, sadly he doesn't like to show his face.
TAS is (Tool Assisted Speedrun) its nor runned by an A.I
r/woosh
CopiedFile woooosh with four o’s
im pretty sure the subreddit is 2? right? r/wooosh
Most speedrunners compare their splits againt their PB.
But Darbian has pretty much gotten to the point where he can compare his splits against the TAS.
Metashrew what is tas?
@@PMSTTR thank everyone for answering your question
@@PMSTTR It's tool assisted run, yea not TAR dont ask me
@@meetlawf3238
Tool Assisted Speedrun
@@meetlawf3238 yeah but what is tas not what it stands for
Darbian broke 2 things that day.
A world record
and
....His camera
GabrielsGaming19 lol
GabrielsGaming19 He didn't break the camera: he was just joking!
DJ Incendration thats the joke
and his muscle
But really, that was it.
For those who don’t know why the TAS gains almost .35 of a second of a second on some of the end of levels, it’s the 21 frame rule
So imagine a certain four wheeled method of transportation…
5:07 Rip facecam :(
Try watching the video while crossing your eyes like you would for cross eye 3D. It just shows how neck to neck they are.
Solrex the Sun King That was amazing, never would've thought of doing this, really nice
Solrex the Sun King good idea it works fine
Solrex the Sun King wow that was smart
holy shit thats incredible
I think I can see the matrix.
Thanks for sharing the way to super powers.
TAS what the fuck this is not fucking megaman 3:31
fun fact: wall jumping works on any wall in super mario bros and super mario world afaik, and walljumping is even possible in mario maker. Of coarse, for the most part, wall jumping is a TAS exclusive.
BlueSodaify it was waiting for the bullet bill in style
Eldar Iskanderov it makes you think life? What?
Especially if it's three consecutive wall jumps while dodging Bullet Bills.
BlueSodaify No it in fact, is faster.
We now know that the mysterious "TAS" is actually Darbian.
JSSTyger dude its happylee
@@user-bp8xl1uq4m r/woooosh
the videos are resynced at the beginning of every level for those of you who are clearly unable to realize that, the actual time difference is listed in the bottom center
Watch the clouds.
Cool, Right?
Holy shit.
What? I don't see anything.
It looks like they go from one screen to the other.
Ocean Prince
No
Now watch the bushes at 0:13
Same thing, different color.
Cool, Right?
3:33 lmao tas mario wall hopping as if he's a ninja
SuperSaiyaman3 jumping*
２秒差ってやば試行回数すごいんやろうなぁ
I love how he makes the theme with the controller near the end of lvl 1
5.07 rip right headphone
Rip= w=
รัชชานนท์ โสธรรมมงคล next time do 5:07
thanks man, now I know I've been putting my earphone in wrong ears
รัชชานนท์ โสธรรมมงคล fix it
shanawaz patel lmao use left-right speaker test, search it on youtube
You don't realize how long I've been waiting for this comparison. Thank you!
Peach: MARIOOOOOOO HELP MEEEEE
mario: Ok give me 5 minutes
love the idea with the stereo sound, really helps keeping up with how they compare!
Bowser: How.....did you get here so fast?! I literally kidnapped her 10 minutes ago!
5 minutes
You tried
Sanic powees
Flame Fusion
Cya!
5 minutes. This isn't a hard joke to pull off.
Well, we'll still all be dead when the machines rise up, but we will be able to match them toe-to-toe at the final showdown.
RarefoilB not if we have EMP BOOMS
the tas bot its just tanking the piss, dont even bro, dont even try to compare, look at all the crazy shit the tas bot was doing.
if the final showdown is no-hacks super mario bros with darbian (pretty sure he's our only hope?)
人間とTASさんを見分ける方法
ケツ走法の有無
Your profile pic, *I WANT IT*
VbgVbg 113 weeb
LukeReacts I still wannit
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
Kotonoha Katsura i see you’re a fellow man of culture
Speed runners: *Skips all the castles execpt world 8*
Toads: "Am I a joke to you?"
@Ground Zero look when it was written
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
why isn't there a comparison of heart rates in this?
MMQuck because the tas was done over weeks or months
no it was done in 4:54.03. it says rite in the video... gosh so dumb.
Someone has no idea what a TAS is
um i kno who TAS is. not personally, but i kno hes a guy whos really good at evry game and everyone always steals credit for his videos and posts them to their own channels.
I had a feeling you might be trolling and now I'm sure. GG dude xdddddddddddddddddd
For those wondering, the time difference is because of the way the end of levels transition - they act as "buses" that "depart from the station" at set times. So although Darbian is often a bit slower, they "catch the same bus" to the next level.
To all extents and purposes, Darbian's run is 'perfect' under the current strats. It is ridiculous accuracy and consistency.
“Current strats” best way for a comment to age well
Time to redo this! Darb just set a new record!!
I grew up playing this game but I didn't think it was possible to clear the whole game that fast , fucking amazing!!
Whoa, nice to see this. My own is almost done, I'll let you know when it is. Thanks for dropping by -- your SMB1 video got me into TAS in the first place!
Thanks for your comment. I got inspired by your comparison, and realized some people might be interested in watching it, so I made my own version. :)
Tool assisted? Explain what tools were used then to make it easier. Gameshark?
Frame advance and savestates. Frame advance lets you play the game frame-by-frame (really, REALLY slowly) which allows you to do all kinds of crazy shit that you see in every TAS. Savestates allow you to save the game's current state anytime, and also allow you to return to that state anytime. This means that every time you fail to do something, you can always retry without having to restart the entire run
Lord Marcus norma ya tejidos
This was interesting to see because it shows how the frame rule comes in to play. Darbian lost time on every level, but due to the frame rule he was "tied". Very interesting.
he was only tied on some levels. he lost a frame rule on many levels.
Oh shit I forgot about that. I thought the editor lined up the level starts or something!
The OP *did* edit the TAS video so that it was in sync with the RTA video.
hmm I guess that is why I cannot understand most of the things that happen. What is the frame rule?
Super Mario Bros times can only be improved in 0.35 sec intervals. Quirk of the original game
That was insanely close. Very impressive!
I like how there didn't need to be a resync after 1-1 because despite the slight time difference, the frame rules kept them on pace.
These two vids need to be overlayed onto each other. So we can see exactly how close they really are.
Josh McElroy if you see my other comment, it explains you can overlay them yourself by doing Cross Eyed 3D. A bit finicky, but it works.
@@Solrex_the_Sun_King That's bad for your eyes
Butthead first: needless necroposting. Second: Prove it, butthead!
@@Solrex_the_Sun_King It isn't needless and I shouldn't have to prove something to you that should be basic common sense.
Butthead that’s what everyone says when they don’t have proof LMAO
Hmm, how common is it that human players pull off the wall jump in 8-4?
Common enough, because it saves plenty of time. I think all speedrunners who can do sub 5 minutes can do that.
How many frames do you have in SMB?
Gameboygenius enough.
Gameboygenius frame perfect and pixel perfect.
Good luck lol.
It's not _as_ hard as it sounds, but it's still difficult.
3:32
Darbian: Ok lets concentrate for this pixel perfect frame perfect super precise timing trick.
TAS:
"I definitely pulled a muscle there."
当たり前のように壁を抜けるTASさん
旧粉もんふれんず United饅頭 セコいすねw
United饅頭
初代マリオで壁を抜けるのがTASさんの仕事かもしれない
日本人がいた時の安心感
ふれんず粉もん その後ビックリ壁キック
日本人いたんだ。
Nobody mentioned it.. Or at least i didn't see any.
Thank you for the audio split.
My right ear kinda enjoyed it
Guyz just imagine the reaction of princess when Mario saved her after 5 mins being kidnapped.
These camgirls making their face cam so big
can't even see the gameplay 😤
Gemiinii_ Ikr
holy shit what a cool man
Gemiinii_ I liek ur picture ;)
So manly
KingPun thought this whole comment was a joke but ok.
Right ear: DESTROYED
5:06
I can't help but feel this guy is a huge pussy
Lol i was using wrong my earphones
2:33 画面右真ん中ノコノコ｢解せぬ｣
lol
I wish I knew Japanese
This is really great! I really mean it, and by and about what!Admiration for youYour videos!
What even are hitboxes
Is this a serious question?
Michael Sabsabi No. Why would I ask that if no one mentions hitboxes?
***** I said no.
MMJZ dude it's a joke .-.
the hitbox for an obstacle is the area defined such that, should the player enter it, damage is dealt.
I think all hitboxes in this game are rectangles, because it simplifies calculations.
Monday 8th of April TH-cam algorithm show me that
i like how the TAS noise is in the left ear and real human in the right
That's *REALLY* creative to separate the two audio channels into the left run and the right run, I wouldn't thought to do that... :D :)
*BowSeR:eXests*
Mario: four,take it or leave it.
When you play “Player Vs. Computer”
*Congrats man!*
HappyLee spent the new year beating this record
IMPRESSIVE
この時代から壁キックってあったんですね（）
3:31
It’s insane that darbian is 2.5 seconds within the possibility of how fast he can beat the game
That total prayer jump through Bowsers hammers was such a perfect way to cap off that run. This run was literally just beaten by the same guy just recently BTW.
Tip: Cross your eyes 'til both footages join together, then enjoy watching *2 Marios* in the same level.
5:07 Me when teacher is sick and class dismissed
🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
It looks like they completed at the exact same time but still there is difference of 2.83 seconds in time how ?
HaSeeB MiR He paused the TAS version every level, if it got faster than the RTA version. This is make a better comparison.
look on the TAS timer it turns red every time he pauses that video (between levels) the level difference shows up on top and is added to the overall difference at the bottom.
The TAS is actually gaining a little time each level, but the videos are re-synched at the beginning of each level.
No, it's re-synched by the game itself. The game only allows a gameplay length of each level to be a multiple of 21 frames. You can search "21 frame rule" for more information.
OK, you are also right. Indeed, every level is re-synched even if there is actual difference in time.
I gotta say, for only being around 3 seconds behind a FREAKIN' TAS, darbian is pretty darn good!!!
Note that after each level they edited the TAS video to pause until the exact moment where Darbian started the level. Yes it was close, but unlike the video, it was 2 seconds apart rather than the couple frames we saw in the video.
3:31 tas literally just executed 4 frame perfect wall jumps man im dead 💀💀💀
Nobody:
Darbian: I don't even know what Jelster means
One of the best speedruns i ever seen
its very interesting that despite the limit we pushed so far
we still have something to improve
3:32 early wall jumping!
The guy in the video is Darbian, He's an amazing player!
Go to his channel and watch his speedruns, are incredible
Im crossing my eyes for epic competitive man on man action
The above-ground section in 4-2 is musically beautiful. Absolutely no dissonant tones whatsoever.
WTF THESE THESE GUYS ARE TALENTED
u read TAS ?
TAS is a tool. Not a hooman
XLR8 -_- It takes a lot of skill and time to get beat Mario in that time. TAS though is just going into a emulator and telling it to push which button and which frame to do stuff that you can't really do as a human. Humans have to spend countless hours make tas movies, so both is a talented person. Effort was put in both a TAS run and RTA run.
He have hex on he cant die
123456 789 No, he doesn't use "hex". He uses octal.
Peach: Do you think you can come over?
Mario: B there in 5
Congratulations 👏🎈
The reaction will never get old.
努力の結晶を見た...すげぇ
Dual mode: On!!!
In my childhood, while i playing SMB 1 on NES, i thought that the brown blocks are chocolate blocks.
It's almost 3d in card box. :) Great idea with stereo sound for both streams.
Princess Peach : Mario! Help!
5 Minutes Later
Princess Peach : *wtf*
Darbian will lead us to 20XX.
It’s really cool to think that this guy is only 3 seconds off the simulated best possible time
I came back 2 years later to watch 2 robots fight for first place in an 8-bit game
And I wasn’t disappointed in the slightest
Darbian isn't a robot... Sorry if I'm missing the joke.
2:30 HappyLee's coins are perfect
Nice
What this shows is how crazy the frame rule is
guys please this is a speedrunning video calm down
Verlisify you guys are adorable
Cole McEgg The word "triggered" comes to mind.
joe rafacz his picture is adorble or what
It's rather disgusting how hateful the first two replies are. Even more so that people actually approve of their vitriol.
The way the guy syncs the controller tapping with the music when the level is loading
The best part about this video is how the left screen is playing in my left ear and the right screen is playing in my right ear
3:31 Ha, and they say they added wall jump to 2D Mario games in New Super Mario Bros.
Jumping on the pipes without dying from the piranha plants
My face turning into Thanos: *impossible*
hitbox
I'm impressed by how the world record got lowered more than 1.2 second (5:55:646) since then!
Now it’s 4:55.230
@@ThaAwesome10 Yup, and going to 4:54,9XX
@@bluepeacemaker and it happend (wow im totally not months late)
@@skill_issuesmo7367 Dude, yeah. I didn't even say it THAT serious, but in the back of my mind I knew these SMB1 speedrunners were the ones that defy all ods, so I just said it. So amazing that it did happen!
Tool-assisted Speedrun stands for game play (mainly time attack) using the function of the emulator.
Use the following functions to record play operations.
· Reduce the speed of the game, operate by frame advance
· If it fails, rewind a little and do it until it succeeds
· Obtain a variety of information by looking at the memory (can make predictions etc.)
By playing the operation records you can do, very good play will be completed.
It is often confused with cheat, but all that is done at TAS can be done with all (theoretically) real machines.