Why Their Teams Must Stay SECRET

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  • @halfriver
    @halfriver หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Great insights. A stage where you can only see 2 players, where in fact the battle of many minds takes place - 2 generals and their couselors.

  • @hosiahjones
    @hosiahjones หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    Hammer has masterful command of the English language. Even the grammar is flawlessly perfect. And he articulates logic and reason very well. I love listening to Hammer. ❤

    • @chesswhizzard
      @chesswhizzard หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Did you mean perfectly flawless...😮😊

    • @bizzr2457
      @bizzr2457 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Either way it’s redundant 😂

    • @chesswhizzard
      @chesswhizzard หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @bizzr2457 it's way redundant

    • @hosiahjones
      @hosiahjones หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chesswhizzard "way" is improper, redundant is not a sliding scale, it's either redundant or it's not.

    • @chesswhizzard
      @chesswhizzard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hosiahjones that is so way improper it's properly redundant ‼️

  • @Omelas1799
    @Omelas1799 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    2:38 Basically saying it wasn't even realistic to HOPE to become a world champion when Magnus was holding the title. And he's not wrong.

    • @MicroClases_Ciencia
      @MicroClases_Ciencia หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He said chances are more realistic, not that wasn't even realistic. Besides that, Karjakin and Caruana were super equal, only in blitz Magnus could beat them, and back then Magnus was way better than now. Magnus said that he reached his peak a long time ago. So, I think he wanted to retire as a champion and play rapids and blitz, than lose for age reasons. I remember when he beat Anand in the WC he said that in deep calculations he beat Anand because he was older and the brain doesn't work the same as a 20 year old. I think that he is kind of smafraid of that, true or not.

    • @cuhhhhhhhhhhh
      @cuhhhhhhhhhhh หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MicroClases_Ciencia didn't he quit because he did not find it worth it? but ofc MicroClases_Ciencia would know better

    • @MicroClases_Ciencia
      @MicroClases_Ciencia หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cuhhhhhhhhhhh Magnus talked a lot about it. It is not worth it to spend months preparing. It is silly to think that Magnus doesn't prepare, he is the most prepared player, he had a whole team working on his preparation, Dubov just to name one of his team.

  • @razinmuntasir777
    @razinmuntasir777 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    This channel should be promoted more,, it's amazing

  • @akarshJD
    @akarshJD หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    I think Ding chose Rapport because China was the country where he played a lot of chess tournaments. I remember back in the days of Chess24 app broadcasts, around 2015 or so, many Chinese tournaments featured primarily Chinese players, with a few foreigners like Rapport. He played there so frequently that, who knows, he might even speak the language. That’s probably why Ding and Rapport worked well together, achieving great results.

    • @akarshJD
      @akarshJD หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      For anyone reading this. I just factchecked with ChatGPT
      Richard Rapport has participated in several chess events in China, particularly in the mid-2010s. One notable event was the "Bai Xue Chess Institute" Cup in 2016, where he played a summit match against Wei Yi in Yancheng, China. In 2019, he also competed in the Danzhou Super Grandmaster Tournament, where he secured first place with a score of 4.5/7, finishing ahead of top players like Wei Yi and Yu Yangyi​. These experiences likely contributed to his familiarity with Chinese chess circles, which may have facilitated his partnership with Ding Liren later in his career.

    • @fun_g
      @fun_g หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akarshJD just a tip NEVER factcheck with chatgpt. u may factcheck chatgpt tho.

    • @petrus_red
      @petrus_red หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      You should always fact check whatever chatgpt says

    • @akarshJD
      @akarshJD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@petrus_red Yeah did that too. DId you find any misinformation?

    • @qazedctgb19
      @qazedctgb19 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@akarshJDwell what you said was I factchecked with someone who can't be trusted so I had to facktcheck the factcheck

  • @arunray2986
    @arunray2986 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Yes a lot of these young Indian chess players are competitors but what you fail to understand is that they have been playing & training together for a very long time since they were kids. It is almost like a family. WACA, The Westbridge Academy has played a very important role in bringing them all together.
    I am pretty sure others would be happy to help Gukesh if needed.

    • @MadaraUchiha-iu3ld
      @MadaraUchiha-iu3ld หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don't think the direct competitors will help. There might be several sub-2700 level Indian GMs involved though.

    • @Phoenix.219
      @Phoenix.219 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@MadaraUchiha-iu3ldthe direct competitors do help in WCC. Ian helped Magnus, Dubov has worked with Pragg and as we heard yesterday Anish wanted to be Vidit's second and vice versa in Candidates and they are all close in ratings. I am not about others in Magnus team bcz they are 2700 but compared to Magnus they were not close.

    • @andrewbloom7694
      @andrewbloom7694 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MadaraUchiha-iu3ldThe young Indian players especially all came up together and are pretty close. Plus Vishy, as they all studied under him. I would be very surprised if Anand, Erigaisi, Vidit, and pragg we'rent at least informally helping Gukesh.
      And rapport is a top 10 peak player, and hes known to be dings second. So it's certainly not unheard of.

  • @katta_musings
    @katta_musings หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Wei Yi should be one of seconds this time, matches would be interesting that way.

  • @universe6735
    @universe6735 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I think people learnt it the hard way. The ckassic example is carlsen buying Nielsen, anands second and made him reveal anands prep befor the world championship

  • @gothamfootball
    @gothamfootball หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Best chess channel, I can see 100k subscribers by December!!!!!!

    • @jacopobottoni8597
      @jacopobottoni8597 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Considering they’ll live comment the WCC they might get to 1 million by mid December hahah

  • @MysteryyEdits
    @MysteryyEdits หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This channel gives so much interesting insights

    • @MustafaAl-Bassam
      @MustafaAl-Bassam หลายเดือนก่อน

      love ur edits bro

    • @MysteryyEdits
      @MysteryyEdits หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MustafaAl-Bassam Thaank you, Im really happy you enjoyed watching

    • @MysteryyEdits
      @MysteryyEdits หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MustafaAl-Bassam new edit just dropped 😊

  • @affablelochan
    @affablelochan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great analysis. I had the same question about secrecy. Thanks

  • @PacmanRocks100
    @PacmanRocks100 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    If any other of the indian youngsters are helping Gukesh, my guess would be Nihal as he's not at the top but he's better at the opposite things of Gukesh, like speed chess, which requires more intuition than calculation.

    • @gatikgoyal8553
      @gatikgoyal8553 หลายเดือนก่อน

      valid

    • @atulbesra822
      @atulbesra822 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nihal himself was playing in President's cup in Uzbekistan on the same dates when the world championship (first four rounds) was taking place. Nihal went on to win the title there. So one can rule out Nihal Sarin as one of the helpers of Gukesh. But I feel that Arjun (he is not playing any tournaments now a days) could be one of the secret helpers.

    • @abhiramabbineni7826
      @abhiramabbineni7826 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is doing commentary with chess base so for sure​@@atulbesra822

    • @lietuvasanauskas1215
      @lietuvasanauskas1215 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arjun is playing in Quatar, so he's to be ruled out too. Why not Anand????

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lietuvasanauskas1215anand has to be neutral I think

  • @MrMoeqt
    @MrMoeqt หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    WHERE TF IS THE MAGNUS RECAP? GAME 2 IS NEARING

    • @ericst-laurent1194
      @ericst-laurent1194 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotham chess with Carlsen do a great analysis of somes games....

  • @areheptus6566
    @areheptus6566 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    What teams are they talking about and why they must stay secret I joined chess this year in april

    • @TakeTakeTakeApp
      @TakeTakeTakeApp  หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Welcome to the world of chess!
      It's about the world championship teams. Gukesh is playing the reigning world champion, Ding Liren, this coming Monday. Both players prepare for months ahead with a secret team of helpers. These helpers are mostly there to do opening analysis/preparation to give each player the best possible start to each game. If your team of helpers are known by the other camp, your opening ideas might be less effective.

    • @UwUO-OUwU
      @UwUO-OUwU หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Kind of you to comment this! Many could’ve cared less to explain about such basic things. You earned a subscriber today! Any orgs that shows commitment to the people involved is meant to succeed.

    • @gowthamkk2501
      @gowthamkk2501 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@TakeTakeTakeApp Good work explaining to new comers🎉🎉

    • @areheptus6566
      @areheptus6566 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TakeTakeTakeApp thank you i kinda wonder sometimes about these things

  • @mezolordlex597
    @mezolordlex597 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Where recap with magnus

  • @garudapurachess
    @garudapurachess หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great insights by Hammer!

  • @piyalidebnath65
    @piyalidebnath65 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They way he said gajewski needs a job and stuck with indian chess players like what u want to say man 😬😵

  • @quoderatdemonstrandum7215
    @quoderatdemonstrandum7215 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So have the teams been reviewed by now? (Except for Rapport)

  • @anantchirmade600
    @anantchirmade600 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would be disappointed if Wei Yi is not one of Ding's seconds.

  • @szymonpawlus9592
    @szymonpawlus9592 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Poland mentioned 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

  • @Mrfchy
    @Mrfchy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. Great content

  • @mrityunjaykumar4202
    @mrityunjaykumar4202 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gukesh won but..koi killer move krke marta or maza aata yaar...demolish wala feel aata..yaha to ding ne last game k last time m blunder kr dia..health issue?lost concentration? inaccurate positional understanding ?..hope last wala ho

  • @wolfienstien3380
    @wolfienstien3380 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With today’s game I think kramnik might be team Gukesh

  • @GutoHernandes
    @GutoHernandes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey guys, I'm enjoying your coverage of the WCC!
    Just wanted to ask to check your cameras (or rather your 1st ACs 😬). They sometimes seem to focus not exactly on people's faces, but somewhere behind them. @ 01:55 the focus is very sharp in the plants behind, not so much in his face 😅. Happened today during the live broadcast as well.
    Other than that, keep it up and I'll watch you tomorrow

  • @barkodsuz-
    @barkodsuz- หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Remember this comment:
    Ding will be world champion again in 2025. There is no other way.

    • @mustaphad1319
      @mustaphad1319 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ding winning the match comments will age like milk

    • @mustaphad1319
      @mustaphad1319 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂 imagine thinking ding has a chance

    • @subhradipdas2320
      @subhradipdas2320 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Reminder to delete the comment!

  • @neysk2
    @neysk2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She look like the hawk tuah girl

  • @regzzuse280
    @regzzuse280 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Their overall record is 2.5-0.5 for Ding, with Ding winning their last 2 game, one in 2023. and in 24.
    Gukesh is still a favorite IMO, but I'd say that this is not onesided as many people think.

    • @thebiglebrowski3695
      @thebiglebrowski3695 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I get what you are saying but it is important to remember that Gukesh just turned 18. He is in a period of rapid growth for chess players and he seems to be going from strength to strength. Meanwhile Ding has really been struggling to perform at anywhere close to his peak and isn't even in the top 20 players by rating at the moment.
      I genuinely expect it to be a slaughter unless Ding really recaptures his pre-2023 form.

    • @bizzr2457
      @bizzr2457 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure but Ding has been completely out of form and confidence over the last year

  • @jaypraxxz7375
    @jaypraxxz7375 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ofcourse he's getting good help from other top players. Although theyre competitors we've seen nationalism means a lot to these players and to have an indian world champion would be huge for them. You can bet Anand along with his team at WACA are doing their best getting Gukesh in top form for the event. I personally think Gukesh will destroy Ding on the board and the match won't go passed 10 rounds

  • @skurrskurr2032
    @skurrskurr2032 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dingley Ren good

  • @chesswhizzard
    @chesswhizzard หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Christmas has come early...😊

  • @endymion12321
    @endymion12321 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hammer, the other players in the candidates had excellent seconds too. Gukesh didnt win the candidates just because he had the right second. He won it on his own merit.

    • @Sarv_t98
      @Sarv_t98 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      though he won the candidates, most of his matches with senior palyers were draw.. and other indian players actually unintentionally helped him.. for e.g Vidit beating Hikaru twice and draw with fabi, Prag drawing against nepo

  • @ankanpramanik9362
    @ankanpramanik9362 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gukesh won guys!

  • @Rohan-p3p
    @Rohan-p3p หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @avinashsharma3315
    @avinashsharma3315 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    For my gueses for gukesh team.. one will be Pentala Harikrishna

    • @GoattokiSakata
      @GoattokiSakata หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He is very known by the Chinese players. It has to be someone other.

    • @mehulmodi9397
      @mehulmodi9397 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@GoattokiSakata He was one

  • @Nameless72122
    @Nameless72122 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brother Gukesh's second is Magnus.

    • @newt2120
      @newt2120 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      loll😂

  • @KeepChessSimple
    @KeepChessSimple หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the name of the female host?.

  • @toppace
    @toppace หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Best Clickbait this year ;)

  • @limesqueezer8969
    @limesqueezer8969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greaatly appreciate the subs, but please choose a different font/color. It's hideous

  • @ManavdeepSingh-q3u
    @ManavdeepSingh-q3u หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pragg arjun vidit are helping gukesh because they are all a family. We Indians arent selfish. They all want Gukesh to win the championship for India and make India proud. We indians have the mentality of country first

    • @SherlockH0lmes
      @SherlockH0lmes หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes country is first but personal goals are above all and all of them has mentioned that they will become world champion in multiple interviews even if they have to fight among themselves, sportsmanship is not all about the country, All of Indian players Always Choose Magnus over Vishy for the same reasons, even though vishy is also indian. Everything I'm saying is on the internet on multiple platforms easily accessible.

    • @ManavdeepSingh-q3u
      @ManavdeepSingh-q3u หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @SherlockH0lmes I was just expressing my opinion fair enough though

    • @hoanglong5281
      @hoanglong5281 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, some countries share different values you know, idk for India but if it is abt Chinese, they consider the national pride very high and ready to do everything

    • @ManavdeepSingh-q3u
      @ManavdeepSingh-q3u 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hoanglong5281 same for india definitely arjun pragg aren't selfish they were definitely helping gukesh

    • @rajeshkannan4154
      @rajeshkannan4154 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree every part but we Indian aren't selfish are you sure about that

  • @ThvonS
    @ThvonS 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keymer

  • @Mncdk
    @Mncdk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you guys upload these shorter videos that's just a segment of your most recently published video? Do you think people who subscribe to you would constantly want to watch these parts twice? Also don't understand why you add subs, I can understand Jon just fine. :D

  • @Xioami-p1z
    @Xioami-p1z หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I didn't like this guy's analysis. Very typical eurocentric outlook. He is clearly sowing division within the indian team and refuses to give them any real credit for their accomplishments. He really believes Gukesh is so good because he got help from Europeans. That's crazy

    • @HariPrasath-yb6fd
      @HariPrasath-yb6fd หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He's just stating facts tbh. Gukesh has said several times about chess being an individual game, even the WC is an individual tournament. He's also appreciated Gajeswski on several occasions.

    • @Viva-la-de-hs4ub
      @Viva-la-de-hs4ub หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@HariPrasath-yb6fd don't bother this guy is actually Chinese , just trying to make Indian look bad by idiotic comment

    • @Young-ep8ik
      @Young-ep8ik หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You are just being a nationalist. What he said is very well known in the chess circle.

    • @endymion12321
      @endymion12321 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@HariPrasath-yb6fd Gajewski is an opening theoretician. He has helped Gukesh as much as Magnus's team has helped him. Hammer is making it like Gukesh's seconds are doing more than Magnus seconds

    • @HariPrasath-yb6fd
      @HariPrasath-yb6fd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@endymion12321 True, I'm not crediting him for all the success.. But opening is all we can formulate/strategize in chess, the mid and endgames can't be passed over.