Gaming Headsets are Dead to me Now!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Antlion Kimura takes the ModMic concept and changes it up with one of the best sounding gaming microphones around but it can be attached the earphones or IEM's. The end result is beyond any gaming headset and provides a unique and portable experience.
Buy items in this video from Amazon at the links below:
Kimura Mic & Cord (2-pin) - geni.us/KIMURA2PIN
Kimura Mic & Cord (MMCX) - geni.us/KimuraMMCXCABLE
Kimura DUO - geni.us/KIMURADUO
Kimura SOLO - geni.us/KIMURASOLO
Check out the Kimura on Antlion's site - bit.ly/KIMURAIEM
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Why a Gaming Mic for IEM's?
0:20 - Unboxing the Antlion Kimura
0:56 - Kimura DUO vs SOLO
2:37 - Sponsor Spot
3:08 - Kimura Design / Comfort & Flexibility
4:50 - Microphone Test vs ModMic 5 vs EPOS H6 Pro
6:05 - Kimura DUO & SOLO Sound Quality in Games
13:11 - Kimura vs Other gaming IEMs
15:08 - DON'T Do this with the Kimura IEMs
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We're here to answer any direct questions folks have! Just reply to the thread and we'll get back to you (about anything really, but I can only promise accuracy about our mics / IEMs, lol). Thanks so much to Dmitry and crew for their hard work and coverage of our products today and over the years! ❤
I want to use these on my Senheizer IE300s. Will the mic fit?
Will they fit the TruthEar Crinicle Zero?
What about the compatibility with mobile devices specifically ios? Will I be able to use the mic to answer calls or be on a discord call on a mobile device? as I usually have to connect wired devices with an adapter
Can I use them with KZ ZSN Pro? I'll waiting for this entering Indonesia market so I can replace my current cord with this Kimura cord.
@@frenzyvanrafi I'm pretty sure it will, but we're still working on making a list of common IEMs it won't work with. We do have a 30 day return policy though :)
Dimitry: complaining about headsets runining his hair
Also Dimitry: *wearing hat with the earphones*
Yup it just definitelly proves the BS about "Gaming Headsets are Dead to me Now"
@@MaDDeX93 This video is a sponsored shill but IEMs really are the future of gaming audio imo. You can take them anywhere, they are super comfortable, and usually way cheaper (especially with so many new chi-fi options). I made the switch to IEMs completely around a year ago and haven't looked back. For what it's worth I was using $1600 headphones and moved to $500 IEMs so it's not like I was using trash and just upgraded. There are a lot of tangible benefits from losing the over ear headphone design.
tbf hat leaven evenly pressed hair whereas headsets leave a dent I personally hate the dent
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@@SuLu_B IEMs will not be anywhere near mainstream until they are wireless with decent battery life and come with mics or mic attachments. That's just the reality.
Really love this review style! Kindly keep this style with your future reviews for headphones or headsets of IEM ✌️
Including a gameplay to test the earphones is an incredible way to get the feel of how those IEM sounds like. You've got yourself a fan 👍
I’ve been using the original modmic for years and still love them. Nice to see new products from antlion. I might pick up escape from tarkov now. Thanks Dimitri! Great vid.
be warned, it's one of the most brutal games I've ever played
It's a steep learning curve, that's for sure. But take a look at the Sherpa program and the Tarkov community, there's always people looking to help you!
I'm intrigued by these for a broadcast/commentary headset. Great sound and I think it could produce a good setup with multiples
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Awesome for you to cover and review alternatives to classic gaming headsets like this 🙌. Thanks for this kind of content Dmitry and HC Team! 😄❤
Awesome review style! Could really hear the difference. Thanks. Cool product too, Antlion.
I have the old antlion kit and it is great. This looks like an awesome upgrade.
The mic quality is surprisingly good for the size. Thanks for hte review.
Its awesome you show love to tarkov with such a large audience. Been my favorite game for 5 wipes now
I actually have open back planar magnetic headphones so sounds awesome and no getting too hot for my head being that ear cups aren't leather. As well as I have dreads so messy hair isn't an issue for me
What a smooth operator... That Tarkov clip was great!
Stuck with apple earbuds (wired) ever since I got a HyperX Quadcast. Also, great song choice for this video(I recognize the one playing in the background “Intentions” by Anno Domini Beats)
Kinera Gramr Modular IEM Cable is a great option as well. It also allows you to use your own IEM’s and the mic is removable so you can take it off when not needed, so it is not as bulky.
Say IEM one more time...
@@GoldenTiger01 is that a fetish of yours?
indeed I use this
Question for the two who use this. What do you use for mic monitoring/sidetone?
Or are you fine with not being able to hear yourself?
Been holding off on the Kinera for months because I simply don't know what the best solution is and don't know if I'm ok with not hearing myself, as I don't want to talk too loud when gaming at night etc
I'm just impressed tarkov is being used as the play test. Even caught a glitch when he killed the scav. Awesome job!
Its nice to see and old school fav rig builder of mine step into the Chi Fi world along with me.
heating the sound as you play was awesome, I would have loved to have heard the DUO's in A/C Valhalla as well as the Solo's. For me the important thing is bass, do you think the Duo's have good base? Im using Corsiar Virtuoso se, and the base on those are amazing for the price, roughly the same price as the Kimura Duo's.
Please do more gaming with commentary, when it's applicable of course. Thanks for the review!
So I have a big question: I prefer open earbuds. I absolutely HATE nubs in my ears. But I do still want that good wireless ability and I would -like- to possibly get something that might have directional audio? I don't know enough about earbuds or audio tech enough to know if that's even something that might be counter-intuitive, but I hate wearing headphones, and I hate things being IN my ear too.
So far, I've been using my Taotronics 88, which have been pretty fine so far. They got a nice bass, sounds pretty smooth... But when I try to connect them to my PC? Either one ear goes out, the other decides to try to be a mic, etc. All sorts of problems, and it's at the point where I just wanna get a new pair that hopefully WON'T be a pain in my ass.
Would you have a good recommendation? I'm a bit spoiled at this point as these things are open earbuds, so they feel comfy. They got nice bass and good sound. But again, they don't pair worth dog shite with my PC, and I'm pretty sure they don't have directional audio (Though do any earbuds? Still learning here). Any ideas? Just again, no ear nubs in there, that always felt extremely uncomfortable to me.
This might be one of the best audio solution for VR enthusiast and VR content creator
Yeah, it would be cool to see them compared to the valve index's audio setup.
Absolutely love the tarkov testing as that's the game I find the hardest to find a good headset for, thanks!
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THANKS !! love the review. should have done solo first though XD
your sniper kills are awesome man
Thank for the review. Have you tried the Koss Ksc 75?
They are often suggested as the best sub $150 headphones
Ty for the review..do you still use them as your main? If not, which ones?
I think the Kinera gramr is a bit better for less money but I like the concept
I would love to have a small detachable mic like this with a wireless adapter like trn bt20
Using the Kinera right now for my laptop when I'm away from home actually, my only complaint is the cable tangles very easily.
Everything you can hear I can hear / describe I can hear on my Phillips SH9500 with Sound Blaster G6 and V-Moda Boom Pro. While I understand wanting comfort I've had no issues with the SHP in that regard
Almost same setup: Boom Pro on SHP9500 plugged on a Qudelix-5K.
Even on hot days, it's still comfortable and most important to me : I can hear my environment. Which is not possible with whatever intras.
I am still amazed by the Antlion mics.
Love that you play Tarkov, sound is so important in this game. Been looking for IEMs specifically for this game.
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Have you tested the Kinera Gramr? It is a modular IEM cable with a microphone that you can remove and re-attach and it uses the same 2-pin connection to fit to most IEMs. It is 49 USD and I would love to hear your thoughts about it and how it compares with the Antlion Kimura!
These are especially useful when using VR headsets. I’ve always struggled to fit over-the-ear headphones on top of my headset, but it’s a breeze with these!
I use an el gato mic with the head jack in it so I can use semi open ear buds. So I’m on board with this trend!
I am 50/50 on swapping to IEMS. I really love the open sound from open back headphones and the detail. That said the head fatigue is real. It helps that I already have both a DT 990 Pro and shp9500 although I will be honest a lot of the time I mostly use the 990's now. I have swapped back and forth between IEMs or adding a really good 5.1 system set up. I don't really have to worry about other people complaining so I have leaned towards the speaker set up.
Similarly priced chinese IEMs with your headphones are going to give you "better" and more detail sound than your headphones.
Been using iem for everything for the entire 2 years and it beats both headset and earphones in terms of comfort. No heat buildup and superior sound quality compared to headsets. I can definitely work/play/watch for hours without any discomfort.
Yeah. I have been getting into more audiophile audio options as of late. But more and more I find myself going with IEM options. More flexible. Easier to carry several options around. Cheaper to get better sound. More variety in options and sound signatures. No neck strain, no hot spots (though I do get ear canal itch), the list goes on of the advantages.
I use one of those smartphone friendly 0.78 pin cables on my 200euros IEM and it does the job beautifully.
Then If I need quality microphone there is this Fifine audio that perform great for recordings (I've owned a Blue Yeti before and the sound of the fifine have more sub-bass but slight less details in the high freq).
Antlion makes a solid mic.
I'm not sure I'll ever do iems for the PC. Though I'd be curious to try them. Can't imagine you get much imaging, that said, stereo cues in game would probably be very clear.
i like IEMs but i really don't want to use in-ears for 6+hrs every day when i can just use my comfy over ear headphones that are also much less finicky in handling
@@MKR3238 agree
I agree, both that I can't see myself going IEM for the PC and that I need to say least give it a try. I have a couple good pairs I can test.
@@MKR3238 Yeah. For some people, iems are more comfortable because they're small and lightweight and nothing is pressing against the ears. But for me, full sized headphones (with oval shaped pads, so nothing should be pressing my ears) are much more comfortable because my ear hole (?) starts to become a bit painful after like 2 hours wearing iems, and the part where the wires hooks onto my ears also starts to pain bcuz the earhooks constantly rubbing against the skin. Not to mention i have the blessing 2 which is (in)famous for having an absolutely humongus nozzle.
I've been wearing open back headphones for years. I thought that the soundstage of IEMs would sound much more muted. I have a pair of Moondrop Arias and a pair of Salnotes Zero. I'm actually very impressed with the soundstage and at this point I prefer them to my open backs.
I have them wired into an Audient Evo 4 so that I can hear my own voice when I talk. It's an excellent setup and I never wear open backs any more unless my wife is also gaming in the room and wants to talk to me.
Nice idea but the handling/cable noise is quite bad and really gets in the way of the audio. Maybe in the future they can build a dynamic capsule or something less sensitive.
Damn, I might pick one up for my Moondrop Arias
I had a friend send me some IEMs and they're amazing hard to go back sometimes so comfortable
Reminds me of the old cod days with the ear piece mic
Love the inclusion of gameplay!
Would you recommend just getting the Duo over getting the mic and a pair of Moondrops? (In a comparable price range, not something like the Aria) I ask because I need to replace my KZ ZST's anyway and was eyeing Moondrops already.
If over-ear headphones are a problem for someone wearing glasses, I don't think "stiff cable over the ear" IEMs are really going to be the solution to their problem.
I'm sure these are great for the right audience, but I'll just stick with my regular modmic.
I switched to earbuds about 6 months ago. I have like 4 gaming headsets collecting dust now. These look awesome.
What earbuds are you using ?
I'll buy your old headsets😅😅😅😅
Only TH-camr who ever has tested a game like tarkov it’s my game I play it everyday and for you to use it as an example especially with the audio system it has but it truly makes me so happy 🤓😊 thanks bro subbed !
Problem with Antlion products is that I had 2 versions of the modmic which lasted quite sometime and then the wire got loose then it won't be able to work anymore , so that left me with the impression that it won't last very long for these as well. Don't get me wrong , they make really good sounding microphones , i bet these sound great as well but to know that it's that expensive and won't last very long really isn't really attractive to me.
My Sennheiser headset has been with me for almost 10 years , apart from replacing the earcups and top rest , cable has shown no problems whatsoever due to the locking mechanism which prevents any unintentional pulls to wear the connection over time. That is the benchmark for anything that has cable connected to devices.
We should have bonus gameplay with future reviews on gaming stuff from now on.
Unfortunately its not wireless and wireless iems tend to have low battery life and bluetooth aptx low latency will switch to mono if the mic is used. I wanted a headset and mic that has low latency and bluetooth for phone calls and noise cancellation. The only solution I've found is the avantree aria pro v1 (not v2) paired with a DG60. It supports all the codecs you could want with ANC included. It uses their fastream tech that is 2.4ghz and when a call comes in on my phone it switches to bluetooth automatically. The podio version is the same as the pro but with a handy charging dock. Whats best is its super cheap! I'm surprised you haven't reviewed it! The only downside I've found is the sound is ok, but with some equalizer tweaks it sounds much better. My previous headset was the sennheiser 370 and no complaints but now I have both 2.4ghz pc connectivity, noise cancellation so i can focus more on gaming and auto switching to bluetooth on phone calls its most definitely an upgrade for me.
Kinera Gramr + any iem you want would definitely be better. Has really good quality mic and is detachable for outdoor use.
Also you don’t need an adapter to use them on most things
OK the kimura sounds really good with EQ but without eq its a little to heavy on the bass. The headset and wired modmic sound very nasalily to me, especially the original mod mic. Again to my ears the Corsair Virtuoso mic quality are still the best sounding headset mic out of everything I have heard.
Two ways to fix the noise issue from cables and background. First if you have an Nvidia graphics card you can use Nvidia broadcast. Otherwise to get rid of cable noise but no noise cancelation is to make them wireless. Which is what I hope they do sometime in the future and make them 2.5GHz wireless because Bluetooth has to much latency even for 5.2-5.3/aptx
These look good, I'll probably grab them when I feel like upgrading. Tired of hot ears and glasses pain from over ear headphones
during the gameplay the sound from the game was so good. I remember getting the sennheiser gsx1000 after listening to it from a video you made, but eventhough i'm listening through them right now i've never been able to get it sound as good as that original video or this. Any pointers on how to set it up?
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Hi, thanks for your video. Do you think the truthear crinacle IEM + Antlion microphone cable could be a great setup ? I have already the IEM I Would like to not buy another one.
I’ve tried a few headsets and always go back to the m40x plugged into a Yamaha receiver with 24bit/192khz burr-brown DACs.
How are IEMS on surround sound audio? I've never used IEMS for gaming and I have astro a50s I don't know if these would be a step down in sound quality or directional audio in comparison.
As someone who loves IEMs, I'll definitely give these a shot with my KZs!
Thanks for the great review!
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Nice damn that Mike sounds good
I bought the Mic only to use with my shure SE846 and it's amazing, best audio ever with a DAC ofc and great mic when equalized. Max comfort max performance.
I have also switched to IEM's and now have a headphone nostalgia wall. With IEMS in, why not have a mic stand and a higher quality mic. I never understood why this would be something someone wanted unless they game on a laptop on the go or something.
Love this review style. Really makes you understand how the mic will sound in use. When are we getting some Tarkov vids???
crispy aim dude!
Pretty nice that they sell the cable separately and used MMCX connectors. I could use my SHURE SE425 with it!
I haven't tried gaming with an IEM yet. Being able to add this makes that a possibility if I like them.
I love the idea
To be honest why the cord had to be with 2x 3,5 mm plugs? I would have preferred with with single 3,5 mm TRRS plug and have short splitter cable from 1x 3,5 mm into 2x. Guess I'll have to wait if that kind of cord gets released. I have Shure SE215 already waiting.
As mod mic, very nice. IEMs? Very unsure about those.
Looks to be a much better option in comparison to the ADV. Nismo 3D and ADV. Nismo Jr IEMs. The mic boom on those two pairs of IEMs come directly out of the IEM toward your mouth, and the weight of the boom will often cause the IEM to wiggle loose from your ear during movements. The ADV. Nismo EIMs would benefit greatly if they would just redesign the cable to hook over the ear the same way that these do.
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What's your solution for mic monitoring/sidetone?
I want to be able to hear myself without too long of a delay l
@@microwavegommmm916 My solution is probably only viable on PC. I use a Sudotack ST-900 USB microphone that has passthrough via the 3.5mm jack on the mic itself. So I'm able to hear myself with very minimal delay while I record through that. I'm sure there are programs that will also allow you to monitor your mic input, but if you're a console gamer your options may be very limited.
@@FifthPinned Appreciate the reply bro, and I'm on PC too. I just remember mic monitoring being easily accessible as it was integrated into xbox party chat.
I have since followed the advice of the channel called "techless", in which he suggested a couple of devices, one being the very affordable soundblaster G3 which I have yet to test and the EPOS GSX 300 which is a slightly more expensive option.
I have read online that the soundblaster G3 has some delay but the reviews vary. If I find that the delay is too much I will get the GSX 300
I wonder if Nvidia’s broadcaster software would be a good ANC option. Please test that out. I’d totally use the mic with my Senheizer IEMs
YES. Just a touch to knock down keyboard sounds. Any AI based voice isolating noise filter will kick the crab out of that lousy soundblaster NR
Do i plug the iem directly to my pc or monitor? Do i need an AMPLIFIER for them to game properly?
Wish they came with the same type directional microflown as my plantronic usb (callcenter) headsets (c320)
That mic is really good at only hearing _you_ (and still sounds pretty decent)
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Audio Technica just released their Mx50 headphones with a mic now btw :D
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Bought a pair of RAPTGO Hook-X about 8 months ago after watching FreshReviews rave about them , haven't touched my HD560S since. Love them for tarkov, feel like I can hear a scav fart 30m away.
How would these compare to Sony WH1000XM3 or later though? I run those with the VModa Boom Pro mic, and I would have a hard time believing earbuds can compare in quality... but I'm all ears
can you compare with Kinera Gramr? its another iem mic thanks
yeh, and Celest Ruyi
In your defense, vertical audio has been broken in Tarkov for a very long time, especially in this latest wipe.
Could you please recommend a 1500W PLATINUM rated ATX 3.0 (with new GPU smart power cable) PSU? With electricity so expensive we want a PSU with max efficiency to save on energy bills (platinum better than just gold rated), & as GPUs keep needing more & more power, & these PSUs should last at least 10yrs, a 50% latency above the minimum recommended 1000W for RTX4090 PC seems sensible. I'm open to 1600W if not 1500W.
A side by side high end platinum ATX 3.0 PSU comparison video would be amazing! :)
1 week with the Duo playing Tarkov and I am never going back to headphones. Insane accuracy!
All I do is play Tarkov, and have been looking into a pair of IEMs. Then i realized I need I mic for chatting with people in my discord when you group up lol, what’s your set up for headset and mic?
@@mersiinary2612 The Kimura Duo has a Mic attached. Also the Linsoul KZ ZS10 Pro is available with a Mic in the cable. I have switched to the Linsoul now because it has more audio drivers.
seem interesting, shame about the silicon tips, if there was an option with apple airpods design id get them
I can't imagine wearing earbuds for an extended amount of time.
How would the Antlion Kimura Duo compare to the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites when gaming especially with Tarkov?
I’m new to iems. Can you tell me exactly how these connect to pc? Do I need an amp or do I just buy plug and play?
a wireless version on this would be awesome!
I'm really happy that they're selling the cord on it's own. living up to the "modmic" name.
although I do think they're a tad overpriced. I personally can't wait for them to be knocked off for like $20-30
Had me at IEM. Lost me at no noise cancellation & the hair rub.
As a glasses wearer I imagine the weight of the glasses would dig the over ear supports into the ear and cause pain over prolonged use.
What do you think of its performance for gaming, compared to Final Audio e1000c?
I would like to upgrade from e1000c so i do open with any suggestions
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I was apprehensive to switch to IEMs from my open backs but now that it's been a month or so I'm loving it. I'm just trying cheap chi-fi IEMs like Arias and Salnotes Zeros and I have them paired with an XLR mic. I'm loving the added comfort and the soundstage is excellent even compared to open back headphones.
This is exactly my concern too. Currently I use the Drop PC38X open back headset and like it a lot for sound but I would like to try something smaller and more comfortable. I can't imagine that the sound from an IEM will come close to an open back headset though. What made you switch and how do you compare the sound differences?
I play mostly Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 2042.
@@skykingusa I switched for comfort and to try IEMs as I've never tried them before. They definitely sound better than typical earbuds. The soundstage is much, much better than I expected it to be. There is almost no discernable difference to me in game between open back and decent IEMs. I've been using open backs for several years and now I basically have no desire to use them any more.
You can buy some pretty cheap IEMs to try out. The Salnotes Zeros are only $20. I would recommend it :)
I was waiting for something like this, I have the EPOS H6 Pro since a year. I do love them but boy they are heavy and you will feel that weight after some time.
Also could you please review the new SoundBlaster X5? I'm still wondering why it cost twice as much as the X3 and X4.
You are an absolute beast in Tarkov.
Can I just plug this into my pc or controller? Or do I need to also buy an amp to run it all?
Hmmm nice video I am tempted to get just the cable though I do wish there was some talk about the connectors esp the 2 pin like is it 0.75mm or 0.78mm also one of my iems has a rectangular recess around the 2 pin area and another pair of iems that don't have that recess on them.
It's listed on the purchase page. I think it's the .78mm
@@andrewalexander9508 cool thanks. Just got to wonder if it's recessed or not lol
@@worri3db3ar it's not going to be I think. That's really just a KZ thing, like the recessed MMCX of Sennheiser. I don't think they would add support at the cost of a proper fit for all the other 2 pin sets.
@@andrewalexander9508 mmm true just curious cos like I said I have some iems that have a recess on them and another two that aren't recessed. But thanks for the heads up/thoughts least it helps to decide if getting the cable only or get the duo/solo set.
I use the Kinera Gramr mic cable with the Moondrop Blessing Dusk. Endgame
Hmm, just the mic module and with moondrops aria will prob be the best combo i can think of
aria is no longer the value king at 80$, try the Hexa
The problem is that the Aria has a recess 2 pin connection, and this cable has a flat end, so unless the pins are very long it won't fir the Aria, or any Moondrop IEM. Actually if I recall, only Fiio has that flat type 2 pin connection, but maybe I'm wrong.
Thinka fir the review. My use is "good value" content creation. I plan to plug it into an Ankerwork wireless mic system to add mobility, muting, abd noise cancellation. If necessary, I'll add a cheap inline mic amp.I'll plug that into a Samsung S24 Ultra. Maybe buy OH10 iems. Whattathink,?
wonder how they woulld sound without a amp or dac....how are they connected right to the motherboard?
These look like the solution for my big ass head that just ruins headsets. I've gone through multiple $200-$500 headsets only to have them break at the joints or ear cups falling apart. The concept of the IEM is new to me and I love it. Though I believe I may wait until there is a noise canceling microphone. Im not sure I would want to acquire a independent soundcard just for casual mic EQ.
You don't need an independent sound card for basic mic EQ. You can use something like EqualizerAPO (assuming you are on Windows) to make adjustments to how your mic sounds for free. It is even compatible with VST plugins so you can do "proper" EQ. Also there are VSTs for noise suppression (I personally use RNNoise which seems to work pretty well with minimal quality loss). It is a bit more advanced than what you might be looking for but I definitely recommend checking it out (there are a bunch of tutorials on youtube).
@@TheOfficialT3Si great info! Thank you very much! I may just go ahead and pick these up then. 😄
@@jmrios no problem! Also FYI you can use EqualizerAPO to create a system wide EQ for the IEMs as well not just the microphone. So if you find that the IEMs have too much bass for example then you can adjust it to your liking.
Try the truthear Hola, it's only 20$ and I think it's probably one of the best intro iems
@@TheOfficialT3Si I'm learning so much! Thank you very much. Wholesome internet comments ftw!
IEMs and EFT gameplay? Bruh i love this
Still love my modmic. Use it to game and at work! Easily impress old people 😂
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Tarkov realy have our ears..
i may try Kimura DUO with boom mic.
then there are these wireles alternatives..
I have the Kimura 2-pin cable on some Raptgo Hook-X's, and as much as I WANT to like this mic for travel, the memory/rigid ear hooks honestly kinda feel terrible, and it only gets worse if you wear glasses.