10 TIPS FOR BETTER CHURCH SOUND

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  • @3DCGdesign
    @3DCGdesign 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    02:00 1-Know How Your Equipment Works
    05:26 2-Be A Team Player - Communicate
    08:34 3-Learn the Music
    12:18 4-Use Your Ears
    14:23 5-Always be Learning
    20:08 6-Gain Structure
    23:48 7-Compression
    30:20 8-Equalization (EQ)
    35:12 9-Effects
    38:50 10-Volume
    Thanks for your video! Great points, I would say that a Sound Person is an essential worship band/team member.
    I agree that the sound person will be no good if the sound person doesn't understand what good music sounds like. Knowing all the colors you need, and the brushes you need, and how to prep the canvas, etc. doesn't make someone into a great painter. There has to be an artist inside.

    • @bobbob123ful
      @bobbob123ful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for taking the time to make this timestamp chart!

    • @jeremiahlopez9104
      @jeremiahlopez9104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      14:23 always be learning

    • @PanRider939
      @PanRider939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%

  • @rogercook58
    @rogercook58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am the Audio Engineer at my church (Middle Baptist Church/Memphis TN) and I am here to tell you, you all did a GREAT JOB of breaking it all down. Keep bringing that info to us, we do appreciate it. First name Roger and my last name Cook. I/30/2021.

  • @corican
    @corican 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    For these longer videos, it would be really helpful to have the list of sections (1-10) in the description, along with timestamps.
    Thanks for your great work!

  • @steveaustinhurst
    @steveaustinhurst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:32 Good advice Jake! I'm super thankful for these videos!

  • @djthornton98
    @djthornton98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved the video I'm the A1 at my church as well and agree with this video so much.

  • @addonisryan
    @addonisryan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have been running sound for over 25 years in various venues, mostly sound for worship ,I think you should first learn how to listen first and foremost. before you think of doing anything with equipment,then comes learning the equipment. I also would say it is best to learn on analog equipment first if you can because it forces you to learn the artistic aspect of sound reinforcement, it makes you think, then graduate to digital. By knowing things like signal flow and learning to "Feel out" the sound , you learn that Audio Engineering is about more than just pushing up faders and turning knobs.Don't get me wrong , I love digital technology, my church's console is a Behringer X32 and I love it, I am an experienced Audio Engineer though and many on my team aren't and don't have my level of experience which makes it difficult for them to understand what to do with all of the stuff in the console.I agree with many of your tips, use your ears, listen to music, know your equipment , learn to troubleshoot, always be learning,Great tips.PLEASE STOP CALLING THE CONSOLE A "BOARD" It is rightfully called a CONSOLE,because it is the place from which things are controlled, not a place to throw darts at and hope that the land..I also couldn't agree more that churches need to invest i people who know how to run sound , equipment is important but if no one understands howto get the desired result with the equipment , you won't achieve very much .Great video guys.The young man in this video seems like a budding young engineer who gets the art and science aspects of Audio Engineering,it seems that he may become "a force to be reckoned with" in a sense if he continues to work on his craft and maintains his passion for Audio Engineering.

  • @Chingmei1220
    @Chingmei1220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this session, it really helps me a lots.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I justify compression on the vocals with "without it would be difficult, to get a good balance between instruments and vocals, it would cause the effect, that the vocals turns the instruments down, but are completely audible or will be drown in the instrumental parts".

  • @hlrhammond
    @hlrhammond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving this video. I’m just about to start training to be on the sound team at our church. I am a musician and singer first and foremost, so I have the musical ear, and I’m a tech nerd so hopefully the tech side won’t be too hard to grasp! Thanks for putting this together.
    I must say that I winced a little when the comment was made at around 17 minutes regarding equipment, about how if a church can’t afford a $1,000 sound desk then they have ‘other issues’. In the UK we have some mega churches but hardly any, churches are not usually that well funded at all, so £1,000/$1,000 is actually a lot of money to us. I just wanted to add that in to offer some perspective as I know it’s far more standard in the US for churches to be big and have good incomes :)

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, when your worship team is small, using backline, so only vocals, acoustic guitar and keyboard goes on the sound system, so a mixer for 400 $ would do. Also you would maybe use two full range speakers with 12" woofer, so the complete sound system could be around 1500 $.

  • @fredacuneo5180
    @fredacuneo5180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a useful video guys. Thank you for all of this information. I can produce music on my home studio to show my church how it should sound, but they lack the technical expertise to reproduce that in the church setting. Videos like this really help.

  • @rodgoodbrand5359
    @rodgoodbrand5359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it is so interesting to just assume that all sound engineers and musicians have good hearing. One thing that I thought would be interesting is to have official audio hearing tests done for all people involved in music.And loved the compressor portion such a huge thing. Thanks for this video. It was really awesome

  • @jordacheevonaicker
    @jordacheevonaicker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:17 I totally agree, never really thought about it in that way.

  • @BibleBikerChurch
    @BibleBikerChurch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to tell yoiu my story of "its to loud".... Early 2000s, I was part of the Westown Christian Church 42 piece orchestra, I played 3rd trombone.. Anyway, EVERY week, a little man in the back of the room, as far away from the stage as you could get, would stand up and point to his decimeter and yell "you're too loud" while we were playing our worship set. EVERY week...
    Fred Marshall
    Elder/Associate Pastor/Worship leader

    • @kevinmcd112
      @kevinmcd112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We provide earplugs. At my old church, our sound guy was the "it's too loud" guy and his wife was the "it's too loud" old lady. So, when he mixed, it was horrible! All vocals and piano. Very little acoustic. No drums. No bass. No electric guitar. I played a Roland TD-10 with headphone monitors. So, I always had a perfect mix.

    • @midsouthexpress
      @midsouthexpress 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At a church I used to run sound at 99 percent of the people liked it good and loud and the 1 percent said it was too loud. Well guess what happened, the preacher chewed out the sound guy 'me' and demanded that I set everything to the comfort of the 1 percent. Well that upset the musicians, the singers, the 99 percent AND me. The preacher who was totally tone deaf but was a control freak basically ruined everything.

    • @Worshiper1985
      @Worshiper1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kevinmcd112
    @kevinmcd112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I love this channel! I've been a musician for ... crap ... a LONG TIME and I'm still able to learn stuff from this video. I agree that most of the "it's too loud" is psychological. I banged a djembe at the Nevada House Of Prayer for frickin ever and we were NUTS loud! (I mean, I banged the sh*t outta that thing until my hands hurt! 🤣) You'd walk out of church at night and need to drive home with the radio off just to have an ear break. Then, one weekend we had this super sick drummer the pastor has known for a few years bring in his little 2-piece jazz kit with a tiny 18" kick, snare, hats and crash and he used brushes and super thin thunder rods, because it's a really small room, we had our usual guy on bass, our guy on acoustic, I was on keys and vocals and we had a girl singing. Of course, we got complaints from the old ladies saying the drums were too loud.

  • @churchsoundtips6940
    @churchsoundtips6940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with what you said about investing in people rather than just nice gear. What is the point having an advanced digital mixer if you don't have a team that understands how to use it to it's full potential? Thanks for the tips.

  • @JohnRiches
    @JohnRiches 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:47 This is me. I know the technology, but not a music guy. Yet, I'm setting up lyric slides, running the sound mixer, and adjusting to recordings.

  • @Photo17451
    @Photo17451 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for these tips. Your advice was very helpful.

  • @maximalexcristi
    @maximalexcristi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had this video when I started mixing for my churches

  • @Tyler-lw1we
    @Tyler-lw1we 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A big thing I've found is the people that say it's loud don't engage in the worship. I know from my experience that when I'm just listening to the music it is perceived as louder than when I'm singing and engaging in the worship. Anyone else notice this? Listening to feedback is good like he said but I do have a hard time when someone won't engage in worship then just complains about it.

  • @jessegutierrez3136
    @jessegutierrez3136 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all your videos bro. Please dont stop.

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't plan on it! Thanks for the support!

  • @yungifez
    @yungifez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I learnt a lot

  • @kamgrant
    @kamgrant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate to the volume one. Our church is right opposite a row of houses. We were rehearsing one night, and a man came in, in his pyjamas and complained about the volume. And said his ornaments were shaking due to the bass 🙃

  • @yungifez
    @yungifez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gain structure is something I need to learn

  • @immanueljoseph7957
    @immanueljoseph7957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff man.

  • @freemandiaz5123
    @freemandiaz5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been known to hand out ear plugs. Small kids and sensory challenged appreciate it. I take passive aggressive to artistic levels other times.

  • @tubeo94
    @tubeo94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Half a year to find out the overhead mics are condenser that needs phantom power. My church sounded so dull for a long time.

  • @jasonbarefield8232
    @jasonbarefield8232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Juat because your church can't afford a $1000 board does not mean something is wrong in the church. Some churches are in rural areas and the churches run smaller.

  • @stephentesta9106
    @stephentesta9106 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work at my church as the sound engineer. Situations not at my church but at other church attended. Been in situations where as a musician complete where failures due to lack of knowledge for sound engineer simply not knowing what to do. Poor ears, too many choices, lack of ability and leadership overstepping ability. I'd say if you don't know, you should know to do what has to be done. Spend time reading, asking and learning. Issues come up. Learn to troubleshoot.

  • @kevinswilcox
    @kevinswilcox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Our small church has horrible sound, I wish I knew more about it to fix it. Where do you start? Our speakers are on the walls in the corner and almost to the ceiling. Our monitors are behind the musicians and only the praise singers can hear them.

    • @9121snake
      @9121snake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro those monitors are supposed to be in front of the musicians

    • @calebnewberry2984
      @calebnewberry2984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Set your stage monitors in front of your musicians and singers, facing the back of your stage....monitors facing the congregation will bleed into your house sound..if you have that setup you can’t turn the monitor up without turning the house sound down.
      Set all of your gains...zero the sliders out if possible then adjust each mix as needed. Start there

  • @yungifez
    @yungifez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just really sad
    I wish I could have all the equipment for all these
    But 17 year old broke dude whos struggling for the teen section of his church

  • @stevenskeniqa9240
    @stevenskeniqa9240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you do online courses for the x32

  • @videoaudio2
    @videoaudio2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello have a question. What will recommend for a worship team to rehearse virtually and everybody is able to hear each other with out any delays or interruption

  • @kwakuadonteng574
    @kwakuadonteng574 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the name of the podcast he mentioned?

  • @joshciui
    @joshciui 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the name of that podcast that was mentioned? Curious to check it out. Great video.

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he mentioned the MixU podcast. Our podcast is the churchfront podcast.

    • @joshciui
      @joshciui 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Churchfront awesome I will check both out. Thank you sir!

    • @Martijn26719
      @Martijn26719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess it is the MXU podcast.

  • @WilFriesen
    @WilFriesen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How important is a stereo setup? I've noticed that all the venues/churches where I have helped with live sound, it's never in stereo.
    Very informative video though. Thanks.

    • @amalgamate7
      @amalgamate7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I know ours is mono. I feel like it's a huge issue. Panning is another way to create space in the mix (EQ being the primary other way).

    • @flavanthensome
      @flavanthensome 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      IMO, that depends on the size and/or shape of the church. If it's a smaller church(< 250 or so), or a narrow building, it probably won't make much of a noticeable difference to the congregation.

    • @midsouthexpress
      @midsouthexpress 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amalgamate7 We used to run stereo in everything, from the stereo outs on the keyboards to the outputs on the drums plus stereo effects. It DOES make a difference, you may not notice it until someone monos it out real fast but it does make a difference especially if you feed the house sound into a recording. Stereo feels more open and alive IMO.

  • @dariousmarshall2838
    @dariousmarshall2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥💯✊🏾.

  • @MeV300
    @MeV300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know but now I know, you know.?

  • @rachelmulcahy5240
    @rachelmulcahy5240 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What mic would you suggest for a high Soprano?

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think the mic matters as much as the EQ on the channel. A standard SM58 will work great.

  • @forgetgaming.7468
    @forgetgaming.7468 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍😊

  • @mattduncan1466
    @mattduncan1466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:34... really dude?

  • @joekiddent
    @joekiddent 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so know your gear... then know your gear... then troubleshooting... skim though manuals... shit you guys lost me... i noticed skipping ahead the part about "gain structure"... can you knock off all the extra crap and discuss that more??

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +youtubesuckfornotlettingmekeepmyname haha. Yeah this isn't an advanced guide. You'd be amazed how many volunteer sound techs overlook these basics. I have some plans for more advanced videos in the future. Stay tuned!

    • @Aristarkhos31
      @Aristarkhos31 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Churchfront with Jake Gosselin Hey! Thanks for this guide. I'm a part-time volunteer at my service, so a lot of the tips are very practical.
      But as feedback, I would like to say that this guide is too long even for beginners. Even if I am excited about helping with set up, pack up and manning the console in my church, it would be difficult to sit through a 47-minute session. There is a lot of repetitive stuff being talked about -- I understand that you are trying to emphasise the points -- that can be omitted and maybe do a two part version.

  • @3DCGdesign
    @3DCGdesign 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you set up your Gain Structure do you have the Main Volume fader set to unity?And then from there you set your gain levels? Seems my mics all have to have a huge gain boost because my Main Volume fader is set too low before I even begin. So I guess I'm asking - where is your main volume fader going to be for most of the show? You say you set your gains at -12, so that must mean your volume is at unity for the main LR outs? Is my goal to have all my faders during the main performance set to near unity?

    • @natebelliconish
      @natebelliconish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm no professional, but from my experience, your number one priority is to set the gain on the board correctly. I would ignore the faders initially until you have set the gain for each channel correctly. (Turning up the gain until your input signal is filling up all the green, some yellow, and leaving some headroom before the red, so that each vocalist/instrument never hits red even at it's their loudest moment). This is important because your input gain is what feeds all your monitors/iem's, matrix, multitrack recording, etc. Once you have set the gain for each channel using the PFL on your board, you can start bringing your faders up. If you find that it is way too loud and you can't bring them close to unity, then dial back the gain on your amplifiers or powered speakers until you can operate around unity. Of course, leave some room if you'd like to push it louder. Also, gain is not a "set and forget" it will change for each person/instrument. Hope this helps!

    • @jaco7675
      @jaco7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nate Belliconish Thank-you, Nate, for lucidly explaining what should be THE most fundamental, foundational aspect of sound reinforcement - which is (for some reason) usually done wrong. If people don’t understand this point, they should never be allowed to touch the mixing board.

  • @lukeramlet275
    @lukeramlet275 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait i know both your of you

    • @jaco7675
      @jaco7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke'sAivation Huh?

  • @bryantfigueroa7045
    @bryantfigueroa7045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your comment on if your Church can't afford a $1000 mixer they problems they need to address was extremely snobbish and degenerating. Not all churches have the budget, especially when starting off. I'm from a decent size Church that has the means for the better equipment, but I've also been to those recently planted churches and just smaller congregations. That was a very arrogant and non Christian comment.

  • @freemandiaz5123
    @freemandiaz5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old person freq. Lol 😁😁😁

  • @edward_inga
    @edward_inga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    O

  • @kevinleblanc47
    @kevinleblanc47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Build better churches for better sound and lighting not the other way around Traditional Mass like Opera and Symphony don't use live reinforcement , Worship should not be a Performance use the money to help people not in Vain.....

  • @Worshiper1985
    @Worshiper1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude on the left.... I don’t like what he had to say. This should have been more technical knowledge instead of opinion. IE “what churches waste money on.” COMPLETE FAIL