If you're wondering how to hold S without whiffing a ki blast, you can: - press S while backdashing on the ground - press S after air backdash H whiffs - hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash command( forward + SD if you have that option turned on in controller settings)
I play DBZ Fighterz on the Nintendo switch so it's kind of self explanatory. But I'm having trouble mixing up my combos and extending them lol. I play online and I finally caught backup to SuperSayinGod Rank lol
The point about the three zones to control the flow of the match is very good, so many people forget that playing isn't a constant "GO! GO! GO! FORWARD, FORWARD, FORWARD!" thing. Sometimes making space is better than taking the risk for a random hit.
That's good advice. When I started and in other games like xenoverse being super aggressive has really helped me. But now that I'm practicing on 50+ and hard mode in arcade... that shit doesent fly. They can reflect and do anti air and combo into switching into a level 1 of 3 and assist combos that implement anti air. So my aggressive heavy tactics don't work. I try to jump over the opponent and dash and that does a cool thing sometimes but it only works at the start. I'm at a loss at what to do when there's space. Super dashing is a habit I'm trying to break. Running forward and attacking seems to be a little bit better but is so slow. So what do I do? There are some attacks that beam across the screen or move me forward but it's not always clear how to combo into something or if it's even possible on some characters so I end up switching but usually don't have enough ki to super. So then I take a hit and somehow my enemy always has 3 bars and takes out 70% of my health and my combos will eventually land but it feels like my combos don't do the damage the computer does. Like a 3rd of the damage if that. And let me be clear my combos are choppy and not ending in supers yet. I'm at the point when I can launch the opponent bring em back into the air and knock em down and maybe do a super if I have enough ki. Bur usually I can't get enough combos off to end with that super. I'm just not there yet.
Dragon Ball over time really started to feel like a game where I'd have to get to a really high level that I'd probably never realistically attain in order to "play the game for real", so guides like this are really helpful for demystifying neutral in this game as a concept. Still might probably wait for rollback to reinstall this game because I'm still convinced that a good chunk of what made the game just not fun for me to play anymore is the netcode.
To be honest u are missing out a little since they just nerfed a bunch of characaters & theres been a lot of variety in fights lately not the same fusion fights
I never understand that attitude. Games have server problems all the time and they usually get fixed.. this game requires so much practice and ive been playing off and on since it came out and I still suck even tho I can destroy shit on other fighting games. And I'm a huge dragonball fan so it hurts me that I'm not goof at this game but I'm finally becoming somewhat intermediate after several years. And I never un-installed the game. Even with the shitty net code because I spend most of my time in practice mode and arcade ANYWAY. By the time netcode was fixed I was only occasionally doing casual fights. Not even ranked. It's not worth it for a long time to get into ranked. Idk why people forget that games rarely don't have offline features. This game has good content for a fighting game and is great at getting better at fighting games in general. It soon became my main game just recently even though I suck just because I can spend a lot of time training
@@juanmccoy3066 I don't know what's not to understand. There are other fighting games that don't give me the kinds of negative experiences that I've described here. I can just play them. DBFZ's online problems until very recently weren't just "server problems" but things that actively worked to make you play a different and much worse game compared to what people enjoy offline. And when that's the case, why practice? What is there to practice for? I did play this game during the rollback beta and it was better, but also yeah, rust is real in this game, too. I was doing better and having more fun in other rollback betas for games I'd literally never played. I don't even know what you're going on about with regard to the single player. DBFZ's single player is famously just so ass and only mostly seems to exist for funny TH-cam content.
@@SonnyJim173 Not sure what you mean by "getting good" but DBFZ ironically has a similar problem to Tekken where random knowledge checks and disrespectful options are so rewarding that it takes a ton of leveling up to beat "bad" players consistently. Games take so long but so much of that time is just combos and the actual time you have to adapt to the opponent is so short.
Thank you for another guide Aco, you are really insightful in them, even from your regular videos I get to learn a lot. Keep going with the great work.
This was an amazing video. Thank you so much! As someone coming into this game and trying to learn, this is an incredible resource to help understand how to build a reliable game plan and understand the flow of the game
This video was genuinely helpful. I expected a few things to make more sense but you literally made everything understandable and even easy to try myself without prior experience. I hope you read this because I want you to know how helpful this entire video was for at least one person.
one of my favorite videos that really improved my abilities in fighting games is by "playing fast and slow" core-a gaming. it goes into so much detail about how, psychologically, the habit of autopilot and why and when its a good thing to do. its a really good watch, and a ton of this video in a nutshell is basically saying how you'll win neutral better by turning off autopilot.
Makes me feel good about myself when I've figured out a lot of this stuff on my own :,) ...NOT THAT S+J SUPERJUMP SHORTCUT THOUGH, GODDAMN! There's a lot of little tricks like that the game doesn't tell you about, like forward+SD for an instant air dash. Great guide Aco. I always learn something new from your vids 👍
This is just what I needed! I'm trying to learn the game in time for the rollback update, but superdash and vanishing make for such a cheesy hurdle to get over. Also, the homogeneity of the whole roster at face value is keeping me in a character crisis. Any recommendations for an Android 16 team with only the base roster? I've spent the last few days trying to research synergy with no real answers.
I have a Team Building guide as well that may help! 16 works well with characters that help him get in, he likes long ranged assists so he can get close and go for grab/plus frame situations
Dumb question I think I'm pretty well versed in this game, but how did you input the S button for the super jump without activating said button? I've always just used the manual input or the go1 jump in neutral.
it's better to use more safe options like your ki blast or even a lariat to make the opponent block one of your assists. You want to try to avoid whiffing big moves that have a lot of recovery. that opens you up to get countered more easily.
you can press S while backdashing on the ground, hit S after pressing air backdash H, or hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash(if you have that turned on)
When i first get the game i liked it for being easy, i could train the ingame combos and progress in it. Then i started to try regular matches to practise against others and that was a big mistake as i recently found out in a yt command randomly, because most of the time u play against ppl who are just overwhelming u. Till this comment i just played all offline modes but than i started playing ranked and ths why i write this comment. Just play ranked and u will play vs ppl on your lvl most of the time.
Dudes online only spamming square and triple C assist While also having at least gogeta and vegitos on their team Fk this, im trying to have some skill in them matches :'c
I love how I try to do this and it only makes me an easier target for mashers. Playing slowly just makes the enemy stick to me like glue. They will never learn and I’m stuck in a skill bracket when kids just spam buttons and win the game because of it. This game is shit. Mashers always win
you can press S while backdashing on the ground, hit S after pressing air backdash H, or hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash(if you have that turned on)
If you're wondering how to hold S without whiffing a ki blast, you can:
- press S while backdashing on the ground
- press S after air backdash H whiffs
- hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash command( forward + SD if you have that option turned on in controller settings)
ah, this tip actually clears up something i've been wanting to find out for a while. thanks!
I play DBZ Fighterz on the Nintendo switch so it's kind of self explanatory. But I'm having trouble mixing up my combos and extending them lol. I play online and I finally caught backup to SuperSayinGod Rank lol
I'm definitely bout to watch this entire video, pretend to understand for a day and then default back to normal
Ong 😂
Same lmao
i mean, the moral here is BASICALLY just to hold back. sometimes cause that really gets your opponent tweaking.
@@MSCDonkeyKong and also assists are like 75% of the game apparently
I still button mash so I’m worse off than u
The point about the three zones to control the flow of the match is very good, so many people forget that playing isn't a constant "GO! GO! GO! FORWARD, FORWARD, FORWARD!" thing. Sometimes making space is better than taking the risk for a random hit.
And others should realize that holding back all the time isn’t the best way to play the game
That's good advice. When I started and in other games like xenoverse being super aggressive has really helped me. But now that I'm practicing on 50+ and hard mode in arcade... that shit doesent fly. They can reflect and do anti air and combo into switching into a level 1 of 3 and assist combos that implement anti air. So my aggressive heavy tactics don't work.
I try to jump over the opponent and dash and that does a cool thing sometimes but it only works at the start. I'm at a loss at what to do when there's space. Super dashing is a habit I'm trying to break. Running forward and attacking seems to be a little bit better but is so slow. So what do I do?
There are some attacks that beam across the screen or move me forward but it's not always clear how to combo into something or if it's even possible on some characters so I end up switching but usually don't have enough ki to super. So then I take a hit and somehow my enemy always has 3 bars and takes out 70% of my health and my combos will eventually land but it feels like my combos don't do the damage the computer does. Like a 3rd of the damage if that.
And let me be clear my combos are choppy and not ending in supers yet. I'm at the point when I can launch the opponent bring em back into the air and knock em down and maybe do a super if I have enough ki. Bur usually I can't get enough combos off to end with that super.
I'm just not there yet.
Dragon Ball over time really started to feel like a game where I'd have to get to a really high level that I'd probably never realistically attain in order to "play the game for real", so guides like this are really helpful for demystifying neutral in this game as a concept. Still might probably wait for rollback to reinstall this game because I'm still convinced that a good chunk of what made the game just not fun for me to play anymore is the netcode.
To be honest u are missing out a little since they just nerfed a bunch of characaters & theres been a lot of variety in fights lately not the same fusion fights
I never understand that attitude. Games have server problems all the time and they usually get fixed.. this game requires so much practice and ive been playing off and on since it came out and I still suck even tho I can destroy shit on other fighting games.
And I'm a huge dragonball fan so it hurts me that I'm not goof at this game but I'm finally becoming somewhat intermediate after several years. And I never un-installed the game. Even with the shitty net code because I spend most of my time in practice mode and arcade ANYWAY. By the time netcode was fixed I was only occasionally doing casual fights. Not even ranked. It's not worth it for a long time to get into ranked.
Idk why people forget that games rarely don't have offline features. This game has good content for a fighting game and is great at getting better at fighting games in general. It soon became my main game just recently even though I suck just because I can spend a lot of time training
@@juanmccoy3066 I don't know what's not to understand. There are other fighting games that don't give me the kinds of negative experiences that I've described here. I can just play them. DBFZ's online problems until very recently weren't just "server problems" but things that actively worked to make you play a different and much worse game compared to what people enjoy offline. And when that's the case, why practice? What is there to practice for?
I did play this game during the rollback beta and it was better, but also yeah, rust is real in this game, too. I was doing better and having more fun in other rollback betas for games I'd literally never played.
I don't even know what you're going on about with regard to the single player. DBFZ's single player is famously just so ass and only mostly seems to exist for funny TH-cam content.
Still the easiest game to get good at. Hard to master of course but it's built to be more simple than SF or tekken
@@SonnyJim173 Not sure what you mean by "getting good" but DBFZ ironically has a similar problem to Tekken where random knowledge checks and disrespectful options are so rewarding that it takes a ton of leveling up to beat "bad" players consistently. Games take so long but so much of that time is just combos and the actual time you have to adapt to the opponent is so short.
Thank you for another guide Aco, you are really insightful in them, even from your regular videos I get to learn a lot.
Keep going with the great work.
thank you!
Holy crap. This is a lot of information and I can't imagine how long it took you to organize all this. A++
Lovely guide. I'd love a full match analysis like you did in the example, explaining the thought process of both players
thanks! I have a playlist full of those on my front page!
Mannn you nailed it thank youuu not only did you explain in layers but gave a PEFRCT example in a actual high lvl match thank you for this ❤❤❤
This was an amazing video. Thank you so much! As someone coming into this game and trying to learn, this is an incredible resource to help understand how to build a reliable game plan and understand the flow of the game
no problem! glad I could help!
Another spectacular video, genuinely super applicable to multiple games. Good job iterating early that a block ALSO stops neutral
I've been looking at this game all wrong from a limited perspective. This is really helpful.
This video was genuinely helpful. I expected a few things to make more sense but you literally made everything understandable and even easy to try myself without prior experience. I hope you read this because I want you to know how helpful this entire video was for at least one person.
thank you! I'm really glad to hear it!
@@MisterAcolyte I'm gonna use tgis knowledge next time I play with my friend and see how good I do now
one of my favorite videos that really improved my abilities in fighting games is by "playing fast and slow" core-a gaming. it goes into so much detail about how, psychologically, the habit of autopilot and why and when its a good thing to do. its a really good watch, and a ton of this video in a nutshell is basically saying how you'll win neutral better by turning off autopilot.
These vids r great. Starting this game 5 years late is tuff tho
it can be tough for sure! But the good thing is everything already figured out so you can catch up quick!
yeah i got the beginner combo down i just cant approach
Makes me feel good about myself when I've figured out a lot of this stuff on my own :,)
...NOT THAT S+J SUPERJUMP SHORTCUT THOUGH, GODDAMN! There's a lot of little tricks like that the game doesn't tell you about, like forward+SD for an instant air dash.
Great guide Aco. I always learn something new from your vids 👍
Wow I didn't know that about IAD
Hey man thanks for you're videos they really break down how to play the game in the smartest and most efficient way possible👍
no problem! glad to help!
Great video man haven’t played 3v3 fighter since marvel 3 6+ years ago, and I wasn’t used to the amount of options available in this game.
Thank you! Really glad I could help with the transition!
Reflect superdash..... what a great advice..... tzzzz
damn. you're making yourself look SO dumb lol. You should delete this asap.
bro I learned so much! Thank you!
glad to hear it!
Solid solid video
Super informative as always, but now I just want to see you play base Goku! 🧐
Man, i'm gonna watch all this guide videos again when the rollback comes out.
So well made. Good on u bro.
yet another banger, thanks a ton for these
Thanks. I’m still struggling with how fast this game is
This guy isn’t making videos he’s making master classes
This is just what I needed! I'm trying to learn the game in time for the rollback update, but superdash and vanishing make for such a cheesy hurdle to get over. Also, the homogeneity of the whole roster at face value is keeping me in a character crisis. Any recommendations for an Android 16 team with only the base roster? I've spent the last few days trying to research synergy with no real answers.
I have a Team Building guide as well that may help! 16 works well with characters that help him get in, he likes long ranged assists so he can get close and go for grab/plus frame situations
This video is godlike. When rollback comes out, this will be the video I show friends im trying to get into the game
hahaha thank you! glad to help!
This made me smile. May zones live on. 👏🏾
this is crazy helpful!
glad to hear it!
What's neutral? Why not just always go in? And just keep pushing?...😂
Cheers man🤙🏼 My neutral needs mad work
glad to help!
This is going down as one of the greatest dbfz videos of all time
good vid bro keep it up
Honestly this vid could’ve been 5 seconds long: just SD
Great vid Aco
Thanks Aco, could you please play more with Frieza ?, it 's my main character and I need to learn more about zoning
Hey Captain, can we get a frieza combo guide/ tutorial? Would really love that
ill probably do one for him after the patch
I could not take a game off this man💀
Dumb question I think I'm pretty well versed in this game, but how did you input the S button for the super jump without activating said button? I've always just used the manual input or the go1 jump in neutral.
Or did you just double input with L and then hold S?
yes! I pressed L and then S quickly. You can whiff anything and hold S, even backdash.
@Majin Acolyte thanks for the reply! Although I'm not too fond of that in neutral, it seems a bit tough to get away with that sometimes.
what controller were u using in this vid?
They need to add combo breaker to this game
What a great video, i wish i would watched it before.
glad to help!
When the enemy assists aren't available, should I use kefla's autocombo as a tool?
it's better to use more safe options like your ki blast or even a lariat to make the opponent block one of your assists. You want to try to avoid whiffing big moves that have a lot of recovery. that opens you up to get countered more easily.
How do you get the Super Jump macro without just launching a ki blast? I’ve never understood that.
Is it pressing them at the same time? Like the default ki charge or vanish combinations.
you can press S while backdashing on the ground, hit S after pressing air backdash H, or hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash(if you have that turned on)
Finally😂 lets goo
This feels like you saw inzems video.
you must be new here
@@MisterAcolyte nah it was just the base vegeta coincidence.
another helpful way to get SJ macro is jab and hold superdash
Nah I play jiren it’s just like skipping an ad
When i first get the game i liked it for being easy, i could train the ingame combos and progress in it.
Then i started to try regular matches to practise against others and that was a big mistake as i recently found out in a yt command randomly, because most of the time u play against ppl who are just overwhelming u. Till this comment i just played all offline modes but than i started playing ranked and ths why i write this comment.
Just play ranked and u will play vs ppl on your lvl most of the time.
Full screen super dash is the best neutral 😂
This video is a troll right? Fighterz got neutral? Thats crazyy
Dudes online only spamming square and triple C assist
While also having at least gogeta and vegitos on their team
Fk this, im trying to have some skill in them matches :'c
most of what's here will help beat that! Also I'd recommend my how to beat mashing guide as well!
I love how I try to do this and it only makes me an easier target for mashers. Playing slowly just makes the enemy stick to me like glue. They will never learn and I’m stuck in a skill bracket when kids just spam buttons and win the game because of it. This game is shit. Mashers always win
Ability deficit
This is a basic movement showcase
How do you hold S without whiffing ki blast
you can press S while backdashing on the ground, hit S after pressing air backdash H, or hold the superdash button after inputting a simple dash(if you have that turned on)