@@WesSideLive Bro real shit if they really wanted to make a story about kid Goku and Vegeta they should have continued off Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr from GT, at least then they won't be recycling the same characters again.
@@angryassyrian5627 i mean Gt ending is the best ending of all dragon ball digging it is just bad taste just leave it alone is better and try something new
@@WesSideLive i mean if the hardcore og fans are gonna watch no matter what the new gen is the hardest to pull of especially with the heated competition so i don't know why is the industry is obsessed with toyselling despite children this days have phone from birth at this point who is gonna play with toys when he have phone in his hand ??????
@@Another_Hibiki Lol... come on now. They practically have the same face/eyebrow structure and stuff. Yes they are different, but you can't say they don't look alike at all.
I saw the trailer thumbnail and thinking "oh that's cool, they actually doing something for Goten and Trunks. I can get behind that, let the kids have a go". Boy was I in the right seat but on the wrong train😅😂
This is actually somethin Toriyama wanted to do. He has WAY more supervision & control over this than he EVER had wit super. It's an anniversary event for the 40 yr old manga & he & the animators R really puttin a LOT into this. Give it some time to C how it turns out
@@anon1403 i am happy as long as it brings the sense of adventure that the OG had and also as long as the story is good and makes sense.Toriyama said Goku will explore a new world if its finally the Demon Realm that will be interesting
It feels like one of two things is happening with Dragon Ball. Either they don’t want to move on from Goku, or they don’t know how to move on from Goku, and I think this more the latter. This looks like an attempt to make Goku and Vegeta weaker cause they might’ve figured out that power scaling has gotten absurd.
Goku is the fucking main character dog. It’s not like they’ve ever had another main character since the freakin’ 80s!!!! It’d be hard to sell a new direction now. I mean they obviously can’t kill him off, no one in DB ever dies forever 🤣 they’ve kinda hit a snag.
Toriyama is writing and designing and made the concept for this series . Toriyama started this project in 2021 , this is his passion what he likes to do , what he wants to do right now a series that brings back the adventure of the OG , and i am all for it because it will be different and more creative and nostalgic than what Dragon Ball has been for the last years
Nostalgia is the problem. There's nothing new and creative about seeing kid goku again using his old staff. If he wanted to do the whole young character adventure thing he already has young characters to do that with, goten and trunks. But now they're babies and won't do a thing in this series. @@symphonixblades
The crazy part about the "forms" for toys, you still missed a few. Fused zamasu, rage trunks, more blue Vegeta, omen Goku UI, and all the other forms for the other universe characters like kefla. Oh and broly himself has like 3 technically different forms.
@@Spidey-ff8dc yeah but half of them are at least story relevant. I don't even consider ssj really sensical because krillin has already died a more horrific death before. But super Vegeta is because he can't quite reach super Saiyan 2, buff trunks is because of his inexperience, kaioken is just sick, Vegetas different armors are drippy af.
I'd like to know how Chi Chi doesn't revert back to her Dragon Ball look and how does Marron turn from a baby to an even smaller baby that fits in 18's arms???
Let’s be real Dragon Ball deserves so much better. It’s like sometimes they give us something incredibly hype, like a good movie or Super despite some issues I’ve had with it. Yet most of the time it just feels like DB is so milked to the point of mediocrity. It’s like the modern Simpsons of anime at this point. It’ll always be an iconic classic, but I think it’s overstayed it’s welcome. I miss when Dragon Ball had tension and heart rather than being milked into another cheesy project that doesn’t respect it’s fanbase. But maybe I’m wrong and it’ll be good? Who knows I don’t really have much hope for Dragon Ball anymore.
from details about production this isnt just a cashgrab or anything. I wouldnt compare it to something like simpsons or spongebob where its just at its wits end, this feels like toriyama, shuiesha, toei, etc are really putting their hearts into it. Its maybe not what we wanted or even need but its something that shows DB has more to offer
I agree with everything you say about Dragon Ball Super. They just took something awesome and went in the completely weirdest direction possible. The cool thing about og DB was trying to figure out wtf was up with this monkey kid. Then in DBZ it gets crazy, but still somewhat believable in that universe that was established in DB. Now it’s just too much.
You were right, original voice was Stephanie. All I’ve heard is rumours, but apparently there’s some bad blood between her and Sabat. That’s why she’s also been replaced for the last couple games. The current voice is Coleen Clickenbeard, who I think works primarily as a voice director and just kind of casts herself in a lot of roles.
they are not the only ones , Super has bad writing and its just a rehash of things that were already done many times in other arcs , its predictable and kinda boring and disappointing , but of course this is my personal opinion . I just miss the sense of adventure that Dragon Ball used to have , and hope this brings it back . While kid Goku story is my favorite , i also like Namek , Cell , Buu stuff like that those were good story wise , the current arcs are pretty weak compared to those
@@symphonixblades Yeah the Moro arc and Granolah arcs are bores to read through imo. The art is nice, and I love the characters but they just have nothing to say.
I like how the same people who whine and b**ch about Dragonball Super’s quality ALSO seem to whine and b**ch about Dragonball Super not coming back…. What?!?
@@symphonixblades none of the 2 is a passion project, super was written by toriyama as well but you show yourself how it ended up he is just milking the name of the franchise he build for decades now i mean who can blame him when he has so many blind consumers
Dragonball fanboys can no longer call One Piece "McDonald's" anymore because Dragonball has become the McDonald's of the Anime community. Dragonball Daima is basically the Chicken Nuggets of the basic Dragonball menu
This series has been production since 2021 and toriyama is super involved in this basically he wants to bring the magic of the OG dragon ball And yes this is a series but a mini one it would probably have 15 to 25 episodes And speaking of design the character designer/animation supervisor is Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru for those who dont know who he is he has worked on OG DB, DBZ and GT and he was the one who created and designed super sayian 4 Also this is set before the end of z and yes this is cannon
I wish we could get a main series of Goten & Trunks with the other young characters (Bulla/Bra, Pan, Marron & Uub) and maybe a little bit more of Gohan and Piccolo
@@expomkr7506 the only good arc in super was the goku black/zamasu arc. The broly movie was decent (only because I like any iteration of broly), but the rest is shit
like what Super S2 , Super is mid and you can see Toriyama as lost creativity and interest on it , this is his project this series is what he has put his work and creativity into , this is what he wants to do . And i respect him for that because Dragon Ball started with kid Goku back then it was an adventure manga , it had comedy , world exploration , fights , now it is always fights , transformations , same thing again and again . At least this might bring that feeling that OG had and that some people have been missing
@@symphonixbladesYour wasting your time fighting a losing battle in every comment section lol face it lil bro, when you make us wait 5 years to announce Rugrats ppl will be mad…you can copy popular opinions all you want and say “Super was/is mid”, but that’s what put DB back on the map so it’s natural we want a continuation of the cannon story after 5 years instead of Nick JR cringe to sell toys
@@BasedEugene what if this is part of the cannon story or it'll be once it releases also you're assuming it's rugrats you're assuming things when the story wasn't even revealed and the series still is 1 year far away. Also this is a celebration of 40 years of a franchise a franchise that started with kid Goku so makes more sense to bring back kid Goku (not saying it had to be this way could had been in a different way) but makes more sense to bring kid Goku back for anniversary celebration than to do Super S2 which is not what started this franchise at all. This is anniversary celebration, kid Goku is what started this franchise, as for Super maybe you'll get Super S2 when they do a Super celebration.
Idk if anyone would like this, but maybe it would’ve been better to make a series in the rise and fall of the saiyan race way before goku and vegeta were born, maybe chronicles of vegeta’s father and a series of him rising and struggling on how he got into his throne (some game of thrones shit) showing the true savagery of the saiyan race, and him learning of frieza’s betrayal and making an high stakes struggle to keep frieza hands off from planet vegeta. Bardock and his adventures as a low class saiyan warrior. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of his dynamics with his crew and Gine, (that can at least bring some exposure on him being different than just being thrown out there for no reason other than plot). We at least got something to work about that can excuse Akira to make a lot of new alien designs and futuristic designs and a whole new world to explore. Also maybe it would be a good chance to see on vegeta’s brother tarbles and his situation (If he’s ever cannon that is)
I think it has potential, I don’t think they would put that much time and dedication into it for nothing so I have hope. I do wish it could have been the Moro arc because that’s my favorite arc of all of dragon ball rn. I would love to see you react to like maybe the first episode when it comes out to hear your thoughts and opinions. If not a review maybe like a review type video I think would be cool
Lets count from Z forms Super saiyan, grade 2,grade 3,grade 4,super saiyan 2,super saiyan 3,ultimate,kaioken,Frieza 4 forms and if i count cell,buu forms then this list goes,Thats lame reason to hate on Dbs lol.
@@simpleclonetrooper2740 one is a weird cash grab not done by og creators. the other is a passion project by the OG CREATOR to harken back to early days of the og work to celebrate it's anniversary of 40 yrs
This is an anniversary event for the Manga toriyama wanted to do & he's doin WAY MORE for this than he's EVER done for Super. They're even keepin the designs of the characters more inlign wit his CURRENT manga style. I think this will actually be pretty great. It only takes minor inspiration from GT & it is heavily supervised by toriyama unlike MOST things Toei does wit DB. If anythin it'll at least look great since they got VERY important ppl on this for animation
Even if they came back with Super Season 2 it would end up getting a lot of filler since the manga is still ongoing and they haven't even wrapped up the Super Hero movie yet, or it will leave on a cliffhanger which isn't really Toei's style. Daima is meant to celebrate the 40th year anniversary of Dragon Ball and it's a short web series, I'm gonna give it a chance.
Moro arc and granolah arc has add a bunch of different good points plot wise. the character development for both goku and vegeta were done well within both arcs and that was essentially one of the main points of both arcs. There was a lot of development and new lore with bardock, granolah, moro, buu and all that. Daima doesnt even seem bad besides the kids part and askira hasnt been invested in a db series this much in a while, akira was full in on this so this isnt for business or the money. All the new forms fit within the narrative well and they all impact it good besides maybe orange, beast, and rage
At this point Toei knows Dragon ball consumers will watch and buy anything if they say Akira made it, I'm sorry but when was the last time this man Akira Toriyama was last seen. But hey dragon ball fans have grown to accept Mediocricy at this point.
But he's doin more for this than he's ever done for super. He's actually supervisin the scripts unlike even the movies. It's a celebration of the manga that turns 40 next yr so jus wait & C it'll at least look good
@@nightlydata2181 No because that's always the same exact argument when it comes to this franchise, "give it a try" story wise this doesn't add anything to the canon which doesn't bother me. But for a 40th anniversary they really said this is what the fans deserve. Not a revamp of Original Dragon Ball, instead Baby Dragon Ball.
@@patrickjoseph2822 it's not wut many fans want or expect but it's wut TORIYAMA WANTS & he always likes to do the things diff from wut many ask of him ever since he worked on the manga. ppl complained bout broly before it came out, ppl loved, same wit super hero, ppl also really liked that. it feels like the same thing here & besides anythin else it'll at least have peak animation & a style more inline wit his current artstyle. u're not gettin super cus of shueisha & legal battles over the anime so wait & let them cook. Toriyama & the team really make this come off as a passion project unlike wit most of super
Bro, you’re spitting facts. But I gotta say, I love these characters so much that I honestly will be happy with borderline anything. Plus Goku using the power pole again hit me with nostalgia like a truck.
Then you’re part of the problem because you’ll take “borderline anything” including having nostalgia flashed in your face like a baby with keys. Dragonball doesn’t have to try to get your viewership and money
There really isn't no pleasing yall anymore lmao. Yall hated super but want it to return, you get something completely different they could be good yet you write it off and complain before it even drops and see it as a joke when this is toriyamas design.
So here's what we know from the production side: The pilot was made back in like 2021 as a concept. Toei and Toriyama got it approved and has been in production since. From the staff(what I heard from AnimeAjay) side, it consists of the Super Broly staff and some staff from the Wano Arc of One Piece. They even got Buu Arc character designer back as an Animation Supervisor for the first episode(Where Goku and Vegeta are fighting). And here's a thing about that: That means it's gonna be heat. Animators only put their best in projects that their passionate about( look at One Piece Wano Arc). This may be for a younger demographic sure, but they wouldn’t put their best people on this without there being some secret sauce hidden within. But hey, I'm just theorising here.
The entire Dragonball franchise is literally just stuck in a loop of repeating the same mistakes over and over while we all just watch not thinking it can get any worse as it somehow does
Wes' perspective is what I've been saying, Dragon Ball is the Star Wars of anime in terms of story to franchise. But for me, *let 'em cook.* It's literally just a small teaser without much context of story. Not only that we're getting Super anyway because WHY NOT?, but we haven't even let this cook yet. Either way, when Daima comes out, all y'all gonna judge tf out of it anyway, like every single thing since GT. Whether if it's decent, mid, or maybe crap, we'll just have to wait. Like what Wes said, kid Goku wasn't a bad concept, just bad execution, maybe this will be as the same quality or worse, or somehow better. I'm just getting a pet peeve out of Super fans complaining that we ain't ever gonna get the other arcs. "Best case scenario", maybe Toei is cooking harder after the animation criticism. But I'm being cautious about both projects. Either way, it is what it is.
Fax I'm excited from everythin they've said from Toriyama involvement to the S tier staff/schedule so we'll C. This is an anniversary event to celebrate the 40yr old manga.
@@nightlydata2181 Kathleen Kennedy from Lucasfilm is in charge of the Star Wars franchise and loves to self-insert... like in the new Indiana Jones movie. At least it helped people from realizing that George Lucas was misjudged.
Look this is just me how about we wait till it drops and judge it according I think the stakes can actually be higher think about it if they are kids they probably wont have access to God ki for the first time we might actually see the characters use their heads ill wit till it drop before i start sh!tting on it first imo.
Ya know what. The animation looks clean. And its giving me OG DB vibes. More of a fun vibe, than a "cool" one. Ive been surprised lately with liking things i thought i wouldn't, so ill give it a shot.
To me it would be kinda weird, because their basically toddlers, and I don't think master roshi would get a bloody nose from seeing a toddler even if he is one now 🤷🏽♂️
There was apparently a statement of Toriyama saying this dragon ball daima is a side story to the super anime similar to how GT is a side story to the Z anime whether it's true or not I don't know, but when he uses the term side story that doesn't mean Non canon Edit : also pan is probably a fetus now 🤣
This legitimately made me cringe when I watched the trailer, I had to tuck my head down from second hand embarrassment. Look how they massacred my boy, they turned the entire cast into marketable plushies 😭. Fr though I don't see myself giving this anime the time of day unless I hear alot of good things about it, just waiting for the rest of DBS to get animated tbh.
I just know there was some suit man that brought statatistic and said something like "we found a 0.01 percent of decrease on kid interest, so lets make EVERYONE a kid so the children can relate to them". Forgetting that you just need Goku doing martial arts and kids will eat it up.
This was one of the weakest aspects of gt and what turned most people off, and here they really made an entire new series with the whole cast like this. Toriyama has got to be senile.
@@casmsfrought9956I'm willing to give it a shot think about for the first time the stakes might actually be higher if they are kids fighting enemies will probably be harder.
@@NMbones98 Are you kidding me??? Have you not watched The Original Dragon Ball and Dragon ball GT with kid Goku especially how he turns into his adult self Everytime he goes super Saiyan 4??? Lol
To the people who are shitting on it without giving it a chance or thinks it's a milking ploy, that is incredibly disrespectful. The animators and higher ups to toriyama are putting their hearts into it and everyone is shitting on it. This happened with broly and super hero. Won't be surprised when everyone wants more and loves it
animation and story concept aren't the same thing. It's the whole kid concept everyone has a problem with. The animation does look beautiful and I'm sure they're gonna do their best to tell a good story but the concept is trash.
Dragon Ball is looking like comic book characters. Story is so long that there is nothing left but to pick a new main character and divert in a new direction.
To be fair I think people are shooting this down way too fast. Personally seeing this might dwell more into the demon realm part of the db verse is interesting to me. Besides, we all know we're still gonna watch it 🤣
For those wondering, no, it's not replacing Super, and it's not GT 2 this something else that Toei and Toriyama are definitely passionate about not sure where the premise that it's only in it for toys came from but no
I think the best way to describe dragon ball right now is that it's going the Pokémon/yugioh route where it initially started with an actual story then got turned into a franchise for literally just business and selling shit and it clearly shows...
Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens is overhated, most characters and some episodes (specially the last duels), are great. The only thing that is kind of disappointing in Sevens and Go Rush are the designs and the art-style (later half of GX and what comes after that have the coolest artstyles).
Honestly I think DBS has a lot more than people give credit is especially the moro arc (genuinely tries to continue Z's story same with top tho less so) but i agree nowadays DB is more so a business. Which isnt inherently a bad thing imo the issue with that is there is no consistency. Manga doing its own thing, TV anime is MIA, and now Daima. Japan cares less about canon so thats just a cultural thing but i wish there was more coherency and i'd be fine with super as a whole
@@MonkeyDJaden75Rock Lee Adventures is a Spin Off side Project Comedy series that was airing while Shippuden was going on with Rock Lee as the Main Character Where the Entire Naruto Shippuden Cast was Chibi SIMILAR to the new DB Daima Garbage. At least with Rock Lee Adventures it wasn't stopping or hurting the airing off Shippuden unlike Daima
"In the animation business, you know, there always used to be a sort of joke. When you run out of ideas, you just do Muppet Babies.” -Stephen Hillenburg (RIP) Japan hasn’t learned
@@123LORDOFHELLbuu saga was enjoyable and had many good moments at least. It was still dbz in heart and soul. Just messy. Even gt. Everything after is just soulless
in terms of the transformations, I don't really think it's fair to include villain transformations like Golden Frieza when counting the DBS ones when you can do the same with other series. By this logic DBZ has SSJ, SSJ Grade 2-4, SSJ2, SSJ3, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Kid buu, First Form Cell, Second Form Cell, Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell, First Form Frieza, Second Form Frieza, Third Form Frieza, Final Form Frieza, Full Power Frieza.
I don't care if I do have to wait another year to see the Moro Arc animated this shit look so crispy... I have been waiting to see the Goku versus Vegeta fight in the same way they falsely advertised it in the Kai opening. Next year they are gonna drop a Budokai 4 and announce the Moro Arc around or at the same time because they are going to want to put all these new characters in the game and as Dragon Ball fans we just can't lose. (Idgaf it looks so good and Dragon Ball is still on top)
Thank you for saying that! I've said for the longest that Super feels like it's been lacking substance and even though I did thought Broly was going to be a chance for something better, it just didn't. Nothing feels to be at risk anymore and that's just... sad.
they've officially gone down the looney tunes route
No turning back. gotta do the looney tunes show style and goku and Vegeta gotta go get real jobs lol
@@WesSideLive Bro real shit if they really wanted to make a story about kid Goku and Vegeta they should have continued off Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr from GT, at least then they won't be recycling the same characters again.
@@angryassyrian5627 i mean Gt ending is the best ending of all dragon ball digging it is just bad taste just leave it alone is better and try something new
@@WesSideLiveLowkey need that
@@WesSideLive i mean if the hardcore og fans are gonna watch no matter what the new gen is the hardest to pull of especially with the heated competition so i don't know why is the industry is obsessed with toyselling despite children this days have phone from birth at this point who is gonna play with toys when he have phone in his hand ??????
I'd like to imagine Toei and Toriyama just snorting a line and saying "fuck it Muppet Babies it is"
Toriyama should just retire
@@kgnightcry8118I kind of have to agree, letting Toyotaro cook seems like a good idea.
@@Another_HibikiMoro and granolah arc were both mid as hell they both should retire
@@maanakete L
@@kgnightcry8118?
Shenron: State your wish
Me: a good anime adaptation of the Moro arc
Shenron: That is beyond my power
Shenron at least make moros final form not resemble Cell.
@@patrickjoseph2822Shenron: That is also beyond my power
@@patrickjoseph2822It doesn't, it doesn't resembles Cell at all.
@@Dredabeast95I thought I was the only one
@@Another_Hibiki Lol... come on now. They practically have the same face/eyebrow structure and stuff. Yes they are different, but you can't say they don't look alike at all.
I saw the trailer thumbnail and thinking "oh that's cool, they actually doing something for Goten and Trunks. I can get behind that, let the kids have a go". Boy was I in the right seat but on the wrong train😅😂
Db fans: we want akira back to take control of this franchise we want something new .
Also db fans : yea but we didn’t want this come on .
I mean, he's directly involved with the production, sooo...
This is actually somethin Toriyama wanted to do. He has WAY more supervision & control over this than he EVER had wit super. It's an anniversary event for the 40 yr old manga & he & the animators R really puttin a LOT into this. Give it some time to C how it turns out
@@anon1403 i am happy as long as it brings the sense of adventure that the OG had and also as long as the story is good and makes sense.Toriyama said Goku will explore a new world if its finally the Demon Realm that will be interesting
Then Db fans were wrong for having faith in toriyama
it's literally for Dragon Ball's 40th anniversary they can't do that without Goku lol
It feels like one of two things is happening with Dragon Ball. Either they don’t want to move on from Goku, or they don’t know how to move on from Goku, and I think this more the latter. This looks like an attempt to make Goku and Vegeta weaker cause they might’ve figured out that power scaling has gotten absurd.
It's clear during the buu saga they gave up trying to move on from goku
@@Zymemaruehh
I mean the buu arc told us that a long time ago my friend and gt lol.
Then just continue the story of Goku jr and Vegeta jr from GT, at least it'll be a clean slate in terms of ridiculous power scaling.
Goku is the fucking main character dog. It’s not like they’ve ever had another main character since the freakin’ 80s!!!! It’d be hard to sell a new direction now. I mean they obviously can’t kill him off, no one in DB ever dies forever 🤣 they’ve kinda hit a snag.
being a db fan is like a real life relationship from good memories at first but now it’s kids come visit in the weekends
😄😄😄😄
It's crazy to me how amazing Toei has been animating one piece and doing right by all the fans and then they're doing this to DragonBall
Toriyama is writing and designing and made the concept for this series . Toriyama started this project in 2021 , this is his passion what he likes to do , what he wants to do right now a series that brings back the adventure of the OG , and i am all for it because it will be different and more creative and nostalgic than what Dragon Ball has been for the last years
Let the anime come out first dang
Nostalgia is the problem. There's nothing new and creative about seeing kid goku again using his old staff. If he wanted to do the whole young character adventure thing he already has young characters to do that with, goten and trunks. But now they're babies and won't do a thing in this series. @@symphonixblades
fr DB fans jump the shark so much and never learn to just watch the show lol@@rprfl4mezyt964
@@symphonixblades never use nostalgia as an adjective to describe something as good
So, it's been a month since the first episode...
*leans onto mike*
THEY'VE BEEN COOKING... 😳😎
"At least it's not cg." That dragon was definitely part cg.
Actually I heard anime away say that it’s not but the animator draws in a way that looks very cg
The crazy part about the "forms" for toys, you still missed a few. Fused zamasu, rage trunks, more blue Vegeta, omen Goku UI, and all the other forms for the other universe characters like kefla. Oh and broly himself has like 3 technically different forms.
You can say the same thing to Z aswell now count from Ssj and grades to till mystic include frieza,buu,cell forms aswell😁
@@Spidey-ff8dc yeah but half of them are at least story relevant. I don't even consider ssj really sensical because krillin has already died a more horrific death before. But super Vegeta is because he can't quite reach super Saiyan 2, buff trunks is because of his inexperience, kaioken is just sick, Vegetas different armors are drippy af.
I'd like to know how Chi Chi doesn't revert back to her Dragon Ball look and how does Marron turn from a baby to an even smaller baby that fits in 18's arms???
Let’s be real Dragon Ball deserves so much better. It’s like sometimes they give us something incredibly hype, like a good movie or Super despite some issues I’ve had with it. Yet most of the time it just feels like DB is so milked to the point of mediocrity. It’s like the modern Simpsons of anime at this point. It’ll always be an iconic classic, but I think it’s overstayed it’s welcome. I miss when Dragon Ball had tension and heart rather than being milked into another cheesy project that doesn’t respect it’s fanbase. But maybe I’m wrong and it’ll be good? Who knows I don’t really have much hope for Dragon Ball anymore.
I agree modern day simpsons and even modern day SpongeBob is the perfect comparison
@@WesSideLivemodern day SpongeBob is boruto
from details about production this isnt just a cashgrab or anything. I wouldnt compare it to something like simpsons or spongebob where its just at its wits end, this feels like toriyama, shuiesha, toei, etc are really putting their hearts into it. Its maybe not what we wanted or even need but its something that shows DB has more to offer
@@baked7423this is literally toriyama from the heart, but since it’s not 2 big meaty grown men throwing ki blast they won’t want it
@@percent1303Most DB fans nowadays have this mindset tbh
I agree with everything you say about Dragon Ball Super. They just took something awesome and went in the completely weirdest direction possible. The cool thing about og DB was trying to figure out wtf was up with this monkey kid. Then in DBZ it gets crazy, but still somewhat believable in that universe that was established in DB. Now it’s just too much.
At this point I have higher hopes of the HxH manga returning rather than Dragon ball super
Stephanie nadolny: Og kid goku and kid/teen gohan
Colleen clickenbeard: new kid goku and kid/teen gohan
You were right, original voice was Stephanie. All I’ve heard is rumours, but apparently there’s some bad blood between her and Sabat. That’s why she’s also been replaced for the last couple games.
The current voice is Coleen Clickenbeard, who I think works primarily as a voice director and just kind of casts herself in a lot of roles.
The creators must HATE Super if they’re doing an entirely new series before continuing it
they are not the only ones , Super has bad writing and its just a rehash of things that were already done many times in other arcs , its predictable and kinda boring and disappointing , but of course this is my personal opinion . I just miss the sense of adventure that Dragon Ball used to have , and hope this brings it back . While kid Goku story is my favorite , i also like Namek , Cell , Buu stuff like that those were good story wise , the current arcs are pretty weak compared to those
@@symphonixblades Yeah the Moro arc and Granolah arcs are bores to read through imo. The art is nice, and I love the characters but they just have nothing to say.
@@symphonixbladesfunny u say it's boring but takes time out your day to read it life man 😂
@@Vespyr_Those arcs were not that bad maybe the endings were kind of meh
No it's just Toriyama doing what he actually wants
I like how the same people who whine and b**ch about Dragonball Super’s quality ALSO seem to whine and b**ch about Dragonball Super not coming back…. What?!?
Toei really wants to sell those toys .....
Toriyama wrote the scripts and has been working in this since 2021 , this is his passion project for the 40th anniversary not Super
@@symphonixblades none of the 2 is a passion project, super was written by toriyama as well but you show yourself how it ended up he is just milking the name of the franchise he build for decades now i mean who can blame him when he has so many blind consumers
@@hallo23779toriyama didn't write super he just gave notes to toei and toyotaro and they did their own versions of super
@@carlosbatista6319 he wrote BoG and RoF
@@hallo23779 the movies yeah
Dragonball fanboys can no longer call One Piece "McDonald's" anymore because Dragonball has become the McDonald's of the Anime community. Dragonball Daima is basically the Chicken Nuggets of the basic Dragonball menu
Nah One Piece is the Burger King of Anime.
@@mysteryace2129nah don't even try that boruto
@@kingpizza1854hell no
@@kingpizza1854Boruto is Applebee's, absolute garbage.
@@kingpizza1854 boruto taco bell bruh
This series has been production since 2021 and toriyama is super involved in this basically he wants to bring the magic of the OG dragon ball
And yes this is a series but a mini one it would probably have 15 to 25 episodes
And speaking of design the character designer/animation supervisor is Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru for those who dont know who he is he has worked on OG DB, DBZ and GT and he was the one who created and designed super sayian 4
Also this is set before the end of z and yes this is cannon
I wish we could get a main series of Goten & Trunks with the other young characters (Bulla/Bra, Pan, Marron & Uub) and maybe a little bit more of Gohan and Piccolo
Facts!!
But nobody else wants to watch that, they aren’t powerful
DB peaked with Z, that’s just the long and short of it.
Nah
@@expomkr7506 the only good arc in super was the goku black/zamasu arc. The broly movie was decent (only because I like any iteration of broly), but the rest is shit
OG and Z was good , after that it became repetitive with broken forms and transformations
@@Alex-pd6xtbro really called the T.O.P and Super Hero shit lol
@@Alex-pd6xt moro arc was great lol i dont know why this guy didnt like it probably he missed whole
5 WHOLE YEARS 😭😭😭😭 I feel so bad for the mfs who passed away to not witness this. They deserved something way better.
Etika won't ever witness
like what Super S2 , Super is mid and you can see Toriyama as lost creativity and interest on it , this is his project this series is what he has put his work and creativity into , this is what he wants to do . And i respect him for that because Dragon Ball started with kid Goku back then it was an adventure manga , it had comedy , world exploration , fights , now it is always fights , transformations , same thing again and again . At least this might bring that feeling that OG had and that some people have been missing
There’s no shot individuals like you are real people.
@@symphonixbladesYour wasting your time fighting a losing battle in every comment section lol face it lil bro, when you make us wait 5 years to announce Rugrats ppl will be mad…you can copy popular opinions all you want and say “Super was/is mid”, but that’s what put DB back on the map so it’s natural we want a continuation of the cannon story after 5 years instead of Nick JR cringe to sell toys
@@BasedEugene what if this is part of the cannon story or it'll be once it releases also you're assuming it's rugrats you're assuming things when the story wasn't even revealed and the series still is 1 year far away. Also this is a celebration of 40 years of a franchise a franchise that started with kid Goku so makes more sense to bring back kid Goku (not saying it had to be this way could had been in a different way) but makes more sense to bring kid Goku back for anniversary celebration than to do Super S2 which is not what started this franchise at all. This is anniversary celebration, kid Goku is what started this franchise, as for Super maybe you'll get Super S2 when they do a Super celebration.
Idk if anyone would like this, but maybe it would’ve been better to make a series in the rise and fall of the saiyan race way before goku and vegeta were born, maybe chronicles of vegeta’s father and a series of him rising and struggling on how he got into his throne (some game of thrones shit) showing the true savagery of the saiyan race, and him learning of frieza’s betrayal and making an high stakes struggle to keep frieza hands off from planet vegeta. Bardock and his adventures as a low class saiyan warrior. I wouldn’t mind seeing more of his dynamics with his crew and Gine, (that can at least bring some exposure on him being different than just being thrown out there for no reason other than plot). We at least got something to work about that can excuse Akira to make a lot of new alien designs and futuristic designs and a whole new world to explore. Also maybe it would be a good chance to see on vegeta’s brother tarbles and his situation (If he’s ever cannon that is)
This is what we need
Why cant they just give us moro 💀💀💀
Money or “FILLER”
They can't cus shueisha said no. Also there's legal battles over the anime
Cuz db super is ass 😂
@@Tony42008 Just like Dragon Ball Heroes lol
Moro arc would be like 20 episodes long
When I'm in a complaining competition and my opponent is a dragon ball fan.
The first 13 seconds of this video was my exact reaction 😂💀
Crazy how the jp fans seem to actually enjoy this , while the western fans are being damn negative look at the difference lol
I think it has potential, I don’t think they would put that much time and dedication into it for nothing so I have hope. I do wish it could have been the Moro arc because that’s my favorite arc of all of dragon ball rn. I would love to see you react to like maybe the first episode when it comes out to hear your thoughts and opinions. If not a review maybe like a review type video I think would be cool
Lets count from Z forms
Super saiyan, grade 2,grade 3,grade 4,super saiyan 2,super saiyan 3,ultimate,kaioken,Frieza 4 forms and if i count cell,buu forms then this list goes,Thats lame reason to hate on Dbs lol.
I guess im going to have my first born child before the moro arc gets animated
Yeah i agree, they gotta bring back the old kid goku and kid gohan voice actor.
They better cook with this 😭
The old VA OG Goku had problems with va of Vegeta
She also said in her interview
“Never meet your heroes”
My boy WesSide throwing his hat just killed me 😂😂😂😂
i just dont know why they wont focus on goten trunks or even gohan a little.
Yeah we need a series about those two but gohan fell off for me
I did not need to live long enough to see Dragon Ball of all things get the Total Dramarama treatment
It's not that stop overreactin & wait
@@nightlydata2181I don't see how it's not they literally turned the main casr into children...Like in Totaldramarama.
@@simpleclonetrooper2740 one is a weird cash grab not done by og creators. the other is a passion project by the OG CREATOR to harken back to early days of the og work to celebrate it's anniversary of 40 yrs
This is an anniversary event for the Manga toriyama wanted to do & he's doin WAY MORE for this than he's EVER done for Super. They're even keepin the designs of the characters more inlign wit his CURRENT manga style. I think this will actually be pretty great. It only takes minor inspiration from GT & it is heavily supervised by toriyama unlike MOST things Toei does wit DB. If anythin it'll at least look great since they got VERY important ppl on this for animation
They should just made this story just about Goten and trunks
That'd be a little underwhelming to celebrate the 40th anniversary though
Even if they came back with Super Season 2 it would end up getting a lot of filler since the manga is still ongoing and they haven't even wrapped up the Super Hero movie yet, or it will leave on a cliffhanger which isn't really Toei's style. Daima is meant to celebrate the 40th year anniversary of Dragon Ball and it's a short web series, I'm gonna give it a chance.
Moro arc and granolah arc has add a bunch of different good points plot wise. the character development for both goku and vegeta were done well within both arcs and that was essentially one of the main points of both arcs. There was a lot of development and new lore with bardock, granolah, moro, buu and all that. Daima doesnt even seem bad besides the kids part and askira hasnt been invested in a db series this much in a while, akira was full in on this so this isnt for business or the money. All the new forms fit within the narrative well and they all impact it good besides maybe orange, beast, and rage
Omfg he turned them all into chibis! It's like that chibi Naruto spin off all over again!
Whoa. The Rock Lee anime was at least hilarious.
@@kidkatanatv I know what you mean, I'm just saying everybody is going full-on chibi at this point for more attraction.
Love your content keep up the great work
“Cocomelon 😃” FACEASS 😂😂😂
At this point Toei knows Dragon ball consumers will watch and buy anything if they say Akira made it, I'm sorry but when was the last time this man Akira Toriyama was last seen. But hey dragon ball fans have grown to accept Mediocricy at this point.
But he's doin more for this than he's ever done for super. He's actually supervisin the scripts unlike even the movies. It's a celebration of the manga that turns 40 next yr so jus wait & C it'll at least look good
@@nightlydata2181 No because that's always the same exact argument when it comes to this franchise, "give it a try" story wise this doesn't add anything to the canon which doesn't bother me. But for a 40th anniversary they really said this is what the fans deserve. Not a revamp of Original Dragon Ball, instead Baby Dragon Ball.
@@patrickjoseph2822Now that you mention it, I haven’t seen Toriyama as well.
@@patrickjoseph2822 it's not wut many fans want or expect but it's wut TORIYAMA WANTS & he always likes to do the things diff from wut many ask of him ever since he worked on the manga. ppl complained bout broly before it came out, ppl loved, same wit super hero, ppl also really liked that. it feels like the same thing here & besides anythin else it'll at least have peak animation & a style more inline wit his current artstyle. u're not gettin super cus of shueisha & legal battles over the anime so wait & let them cook. Toriyama & the team really make this come off as a passion project unlike wit most of super
Stephony Nadolmy (I butchered her name I apologize) But shes my favorite Kid Goku/Gohan voice actor 🙏🏾
I now have the RIGHT to say this
Dragon ball is dead
Overreacting asf
U gonna be there Day 1 to watch it. Shut up
Literally trending 1 on TH-cam yesterday u it's dead
It’s a 20 episode anime to celebrate the 40th anniversary of dragonball. Dbs is still gonna come back
Oh ok. Thats a relief!
Bro, you’re spitting facts.
But I gotta say, I love these characters so much that I honestly will be happy with borderline anything. Plus Goku using the power pole again hit me with nostalgia like a truck.
Then you’re part of the problem because you’ll take “borderline anything” including having nostalgia flashed in your face like a baby with keys. Dragonball doesn’t have to try to get your viewership and money
There really isn't no pleasing yall anymore lmao. Yall hated super but want it to return, you get something completely different they could be good yet you write it off and complain before it even drops and see it as a joke when this is toriyamas design.
Promised myself I wouldn’t let dragonball hurt me anymore 😂😂😂
They turned to shota and loli. 🤣🤣
They knew what they were doing, don't be surprised when there's a sudden surge of art on certain sites.
@@inkchariot6147 Yo! 🤣🤣
"What should we do to continue dragon ball?"
"Recreate the super mang-"
"MINORS"
Like I said before, dragon ball should have ended while it was good instead of continuing until it became bad. At least GT had a great ending.
Why couldn't we get sum with goku and vegeta meeting the saiyan race or sum...
So here's what we know from the production side: The pilot was made back in like 2021 as a concept. Toei and Toriyama got it approved and has been in production since.
From the staff(what I heard from AnimeAjay) side, it consists of the Super Broly staff and some staff from the Wano Arc of One Piece. They even got Buu Arc character designer back as an Animation Supervisor for the first episode(Where Goku and Vegeta are fighting).
And here's a thing about that: That means it's gonna be heat. Animators only put their best in projects that their passionate about( look at One Piece Wano Arc). This may be for a younger demographic sure, but they wouldn’t put their best people on this without there being some secret sauce hidden within. But hey, I'm just theorising here.
This feels like DB is gonna take a page out of HxH and it already feels like it's gonna flop
The Animation is already better than the beginning of Super👀
The entire Dragonball franchise is literally just stuck in a loop of repeating the same mistakes over and over while we all just watch not thinking it can get any worse as it somehow does
Wes' perspective is what I've been saying, Dragon Ball is the Star Wars of anime in terms of story to franchise.
But for me, *let 'em cook.* It's literally just a small teaser without much context of story. Not only that we're getting Super anyway because WHY NOT?, but we haven't even let this cook yet. Either way, when Daima comes out, all y'all gonna judge tf out of it anyway, like every single thing since GT. Whether if it's decent, mid, or maybe crap, we'll just have to wait. Like what Wes said, kid Goku wasn't a bad concept, just bad execution, maybe this will be as the same quality or worse, or somehow better. I'm just getting a pet peeve out of Super fans complaining that we ain't ever gonna get the other arcs. "Best case scenario", maybe Toei is cooking harder after the animation criticism. But I'm being cautious about both projects. Either way, it is what it is.
Fax I'm excited from everythin they've said from Toriyama involvement to the S tier staff/schedule so we'll C. This is an anniversary event to celebrate the 40yr old manga.
I 100% agree with you. I'm very excited for this and I feel like people are judging this WAY too quickly.
Nah, Dragon Ball didn't have a woman known for self-inserting herself taking care of the franchise.
@@Another_Hibiki huh?
@@nightlydata2181 Kathleen Kennedy from Lucasfilm is in charge of the Star Wars franchise and loves to self-insert... like in the new Indiana Jones movie. At least it helped people from realizing that George Lucas was misjudged.
Bro can we just wait till it comes out so then we can review it
i dont understand the hate i kinda like how this is at least we are getting something db anime
We got to wait for 50th aniversary to get super 2😂
Look this is just me how about we wait till it drops and judge it according I think the stakes can actually be higher think about it if they are kids they probably wont have access to God ki for the first time we might actually see the characters use their heads ill wit till it drop before i start sh!tting on it first imo.
die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Ya know what. The animation looks clean. And its giving me OG DB vibes. More of a fun vibe, than a "cool" one. Ive been surprised lately with liking things i thought i wouldn't, so ill give it a shot.
Am I the only one that thinks it wouldn't be out of character if Roshi still would attempt to fondle Bulma's chest?
At least they will be the same age now
Didn’t he beat those tendencies in preparation for tournament of power?
@@kormit_mcspoicy1671🤣🤣u thought
To me it would be kinda weird, because their basically toddlers, and I don't think master roshi would get a bloody nose from seeing a toddler even if he is one now 🤷🏽♂️
@@kormit_mcspoicy1671he just sealed them temporarily, they still there it’s just gonna take a bit.
Went from brutal fights, great storytelling, and characters to Disney Channel
There was apparently a statement of Toriyama saying this dragon ball daima is a side story to the super anime similar to how GT is a side story to the Z anime whether it's true or not I don't know, but when he uses the term side story that doesn't mean Non canon
Edit : also pan is probably a fetus now 🤣
Stephanie Nadolny
Dragon Ball: Let’s make a series of the dragon ball characters but as KIDS
Goten and Trunks: 👁️👄👁️
This legitimately made me cringe when I watched the trailer, I had to tuck my head down from second hand embarrassment. Look how they massacred my boy, they turned the entire cast into marketable plushies 😭. Fr though I don't see myself giving this anime the time of day unless I hear alot of good things about it, just waiting for the rest of DBS to get animated tbh.
Goofy ahh take... Not surprising coming from someone with a pfp like that.
Ok you can go on
I just know there was some suit man that brought statatistic and said something like "we found a 0.01 percent of decrease on kid interest, so lets make EVERYONE a kid so the children can relate to them". Forgetting that you just need Goku doing martial arts and kids will eat it up.
This was one of the weakest aspects of gt and what turned most people off, and here they really made an entire new series with the whole cast like this. Toriyama has got to be senile.
always love seeing the wes show up in the notifications lol
I'm actually hyped for this
But like... WHY
@@casmsfrought9956I'm willing to give it a shot think about for the first time the stakes might actually be higher if they are kids fighting enemies will probably be harder.
@@NMbones98 Are you kidding me??? Have you not watched The Original Dragon Ball and Dragon ball GT with kid Goku especially how he turns into his adult self Everytime he goes super Saiyan 4??? Lol
@casmsfrought9956 why not. It's dragon ball. I like dragon ball. Simple as that
@@thedream4010 db getting triggered when I have a different opinion
Shenron: State your wish
Toriyama: Teen titans go
To the people who are shitting on it without giving it a chance or thinks it's a milking ploy, that is incredibly disrespectful. The animators and higher ups to toriyama are putting their hearts into it and everyone is shitting on it. This happened with broly and super hero. Won't be surprised when everyone wants more and loves it
Man shut tf up. This anime looks SORRY
Ain't no way bro's comparing broly to dragonball babies
@@darthchungus9964They got the animation staff from Super Broly and the Wano Arc working on this. So I'd say let them cook.
animation and story concept aren't the same thing. It's the whole kid concept everyone has a problem with. The animation does look beautiful and I'm sure they're gonna do their best to tell a good story but the concept is trash.
@@hyder7585 facts looks like bro's the one who's actually cooking
Did they not know the babyfication genre ended in 1998?
I miss Namek Goku.
Dragon Ball is looking like comic book characters. Story is so long that there is nothing left but to pick a new main character and divert in a new direction.
To be fair I think people are shooting this down way too fast. Personally seeing this might dwell more into the demon realm part of the db verse is interesting to me. Besides, we all know we're still gonna watch it 🤣
When I saw the Kid Goku screenshot, I thought they were rebooting Dragon Ball.
For those wondering, no, it's not replacing Super, and it's not GT 2 this something else that Toei and Toriyama are definitely passionate about not sure where the premise that it's only in it for toys came from but no
4:30 seeing goku turned back into a kid, this made me ask myself, "are they trying to make the true gt?"
I think the best way to describe dragon ball right now is that it's going the Pokémon/yugioh route where it initially started with an actual story then got turned into a franchise for literally just business and selling shit and it clearly shows...
Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens is overhated, most characters and some episodes (specially the last duels), are great. The only thing that is kind of disappointing in Sevens and Go Rush are the designs and the art-style (later half of GX and what comes after that have the coolest artstyles).
And Bakugan to
"You patent it and package it, and slap it on a plastic lunch box, and now you're selling it, you're selling it!"
-Jeff Goldblum
Honestly I think DBS has a lot more than people give credit is especially the moro arc (genuinely tries to continue Z's story same with top tho less so) but i agree nowadays DB is more so a business. Which isnt inherently a bad thing imo the issue with that is there is no consistency. Manga doing its own thing, TV anime is MIA, and now Daima. Japan cares less about canon so thats just a cultural thing but i wish there was more coherency and i'd be fine with super as a whole
that intro though 😂
Rock Lee Adventures type of ish
Who asked for chibi, We finally have something below Super
Lmaooooo I remember The rock lee adventuress!
What is Rock Lee Adventures?
@@MonkeyDJaden75Rock Lee Adventures is a Spin Off side Project Comedy series that was airing while Shippuden was going on with Rock Lee as the Main Character Where the Entire Naruto Shippuden Cast was Chibi SIMILAR to the new DB Daima Garbage.
At least with Rock Lee Adventures it wasn't stopping or hurting the airing off Shippuden unlike Daima
"In the animation business, you know, there always used to be a sort of joke. When you run out of ideas, you just do Muppet Babies.”
-Stephen Hillenburg (RIP)
Japan hasn’t learned
Honestly, yeah. I love Dragon Ball with all my heart, but it's 100% dedicated to making toys now 😪
All I want out of DragonBall is a Future Trunks special that gives him a better send off and happy ending. That Goku Black arc was an abomination smh.
nah
@@mackncheese1683 DragonBall ain't been good since the Android/Cell Saga. Future Trunks leaves and the show goes down hill.
Someone had to say it
@@123LORDOFHELLbuu saga was enjoyable and had many good moments at least. It was still dbz in heart and soul. Just messy. Even gt. Everything after is just soulless
@@123LORDOFHELL biggest cap I seen all year
in terms of the transformations, I don't really think it's fair to include villain transformations like Golden Frieza when counting the DBS ones when you can do the same with other series. By this logic DBZ has SSJ, SSJ Grade 2-4, SSJ2, SSJ3, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Kid buu, First Form Cell, Second Form Cell, Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell, First Form Frieza, Second Form Frieza, Third Form Frieza, Final Form Frieza, Full Power Frieza.
I don't care if I do have to wait another year to see the Moro Arc animated this shit look so crispy...
I have been waiting to see the Goku versus Vegeta fight in the same way they falsely advertised it in the Kai opening.
Next year they are gonna drop a Budokai 4 and announce the Moro Arc around or at the same time because they are going to want to put all these new characters in the game and as Dragon Ball fans we just can't lose.
(Idgaf it looks so good and Dragon Ball is still on top)
Next year y'all gonna be eating it up and licking the plate
@@LonelyOceanI feel like this is going to be so true. People pass judgement on shit before they see anything
colleen clinkenbeard is probably gonna voice Chibi Goku.
She Voiced Kid Gohan, Kid Goku in Kai, The Games and other Modern Stuff
Thank you for saying that! I've said for the longest that Super feels like it's been lacking substance and even though I did thought Broly was going to be a chance for something better, it just didn't. Nothing feels to be at risk anymore and that's just... sad.
Ayy man I really don’t care as long as we getting new dragon ball shit I’m all for it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭