Hey Wes. I just have to say that I think your criticism of the 22nd tournament arc isn't really valid for one reason. You say every plot element was just standard shonen and that made it predictable. But dragonball is what set that standard in the first place. You can't use it being basic, standard shonen as a criticism when it's what set the standard. It's like criticizing star wars for being a standard Sci-Fi adventure movie when it's what set the standard for Sci-Fi adventure movies in the first place.
I liked the beginning of the Buu arc a lot because it showcased not only the aftermath of the Cell Saga, seeing as he’s the only villain in Z that the world was allowed to remember, but also because it slowed things down a bit and showed a more everyday-life for the characters. With 7 years of peace, the characters are just allowed to live. Gohan goes to school and shows what his life would be like outside of the world-ending threats. With his strength and good nature, it only made sense that he’d be interested in fighting crime and even becoming a super hero of sorts. It’s a nice contrast to the more hectic stuff that preceded and followed it and felt more like a school slice-of-life-meets-shonen type of vibe.
Dude the baby arc wasn't awesome. It was straight FIRE. Dragon ball never had such high stakes before. Baby accomplished way more than any other villain. He conquered the planet and it's people body and soul. Including the Z team. Goku was alone and extremely out gunned and out numbered. The COMEBACK WAS CRAZY SATISFYING.
for real Wes you should do a top 20 or 25 Arcs in Anime/Manga, i think that could be an interesting topic and a way to cover all your different favorite series in one big video.
I appreciate finding a content creator who recognizes Dragonball Multiverse as a superior tournament arc compared to Super's. It's refreshing to see this viewpoint being expressed. While I have a few dislikes about DBM, such as the excessive focus on Bra, I agree with Wes that it effectively presents what a multiversal tournament for this series should be like. DBM succeeded in presenting a more engaging story by focusing on different outcomes for known characters rather than introducing numerous irrelevant characters that the audience won't be/gets no time to be interested in.
It’s literally the tournament of power but done so much better it actually makes me mad how shit the actual arc is in comparison. And this is coming from a former DBS fanboy
I know you only left out the Garlic Jr Saga because it would need another arc above GOAT to represent how it is the peak of human creativity. It just wouldn't be fair to confine that masterpiece to the description of a tier in a tier list, and I fully agree.
Goku Black arc’s ending is like the Bad Ending in a video game. My favorite arc in Super despite its many, many flaws. Black and Zamasu were a force to reckon with. Vegeta’s speech to Black and overall development is just great
I didn't watch all of the Dragon Ball anime, but I did watch the Battle of Gods movie and I love it. I like how Goku got humbled by a higher presence like Beerus. It showed that no amount of training could make you on par with the real deal. He did manage to achieve the God status for a moment, but only with the help of the other four saiyans. And even then, he found it difficult to control the God power and loses it after a while. At the end, he admitted defeat and accepted the fact that there are other beings in the universe that are far more powerful than he is. The Saiyan God form is cool (for once, the form does not make Goku bulkier than usual). And the fact that Goku could only obtain this power through the help of the other four other saiyans means he could not spam this form all the time. Plus, Goku could not control this form and loses it after some time. This means that the power of God is too much for mortals, Goku included. ... Of course, the Resurrection of Frieza happened later (I also watched this movie) and everything I appreciate about the Super Saiyan God instantly got nullified. Personally, I don't like this movie because Goku and Vegeta now got taught by Whiz and Beerus for some reason (Beerus is a God of Destruction, not a teacher). Also, both Goku and Vegeta now managed to obtain and control an even higher form of Saiyan than the Super Saiyan God. This destroys the concept of power scaling because now, both of them are matching the power of the Gods, which makes them too OP for the rest of characters in DB universe, hence why the next tournament is against the Gods. In my opinion, they should just make the Super Saiyan God the highest form of Saiyan. Make it an ultra-rare thing and cannot be used often. However, I know that the DB fans likes to one-up the power scale with each new DB entries. Well, each to their own, I guess.
I too cried when GT ended as a kid. Still makes me watery eyed if I watch it now. There's no other way it should be done. If Toriyama & Toyotaro ever 'end' Dragon Ball, that'd be a good ending.
Honestly that long winded training in the Saiyan Arc is almost all anime exclusive, so that manga version is just tight as shit. Gas gas gas all the way through. Such a well constructed story.
There have been Gods being introduced all through out Dragon Ball, Beerus and Whis being added only made sense as a way to further develop Goku & Vegeta.
I will always stand by that as a CONCEPT the Shadow Dragon arc , or something similar, is the best way to end dragon ball. It could easily be the best arc of DB. Especially now when we had 4 sets of dragon balls active during the Granolah arc. Even now its still 3. Karma should come for them
Goku vs Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga will always be THAT fight it's so good narratively. This is the fight that I'm always looking for to any anime that I watch
always get goosebumps seeing that fight. especially when goku goes kaioken 4x when he was told he could die going past 2x. just such an awesome fight and establishes goku pushing it beyond the limit
Goku vs Vegeta is Piccolo Jr vs Goku 2.0, for the most part. It's not exactly the same, but there are a lot of similarities. Every single fight in the series after that 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai final tried to be a copy. It was basically the benchmark. The only thing that was missing from it were the loud bang noises that were first used when Piccolo fought 2nd form Freeza on Namek.
Hello. Excellent ranking. Dragon Ball Z is my favorite anime period. It's always fun to listen to another fan talk about the show and universe. TERRANCE OUT
One of the main things about dragon ball (Z in particular) is that it was many peoples first introduction to what anime really is like when not episodic. That first time feeling is impossible to replicate, even if you are watching it for the first time now.
nice tierlist i get you about the buu arc, because the first half literally feels like it's gonna be the greatest arc ever but somewhere around the Super Buu-Fusions sections you can really feel it fumbling and losing direction and then of course followed by one of the most shameless retcons in anime history of bringing goku back to save the day, taking the torch back the torch that he had passed, yet even then that second half of the Buu arc has some of the most iconic stuff in DB history and it was always still highly entertaining personally wouldnt put the Buu arc at the top of my list but i respect it when others do, it really is peak entertainment
I feel like a lot of people skip the Dragon Ball series and just jumps to the Z series. I personally go back to the first series mostly because the fights have more focus on the Martial Arts, but the comedy and the adventure is still a lot of fun to rewatch.
i'd put goku black arc above mid, while i agree the ending was the worst ever, the character interactions, fight scenes, transformations, and choreography felt like such a breath of fresh air after the janky ass frame by frame bullshit they had going in the beginning of super p̶l̶u̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶v̶e̶g̶i̶t̶o̶ I'm not biased.
Kinda find it odd he says to look at Z from the perspective of someone who hasn't seen dragon ball or seen Z before but when he was talking about OG dragon ball he brought up criticisms comparing it to shounen tropes of today. Am I missing something or is this not a little biased? He still said OG was good I'm just curious. Multiverse has some big problems to with how the tournament kept gettinf derailed and how it became the Bra show for a while.
I'm talking about the story telling elements of someone who just got finished watching dragon ball in it's heyday transitioning to Z with the hype. and i only brought up that criticism for 22nd not all of dragon ball.
Damn you impressed me with your original DB/manga knowledge on this one. I didn’t fully agree with the rankings but I can tell you’re familiar with the series so I respect it
Bro I just finished reading the buu saga for the totally not mark review, and the intimidation he gave off wasn't less it was just different. Man turned chi chi into a fucking egg
Cell/Android Saga is my favorite; Time travel, mystery of the android threat, Vegeta’s pride turned up to 100, hyperbolic time chamber, instant transmission Kamehameha, Gohan going SSJ2, Goku sacrificing himself, Gohan and Cell beam struggle, Vegeta letting Cell reach 100%, Final Flash, so many great iconic moments. This arc really kept you guessing what was going to happen next and really had an air of mystery and suspense to it and Cell’s introduction was almost like a horror movie lmao man was sucking up everything 😮💨
The Universe of Tournament arc couldve been way better if they actually used the DB multiverse (No Vegito, No Broly No God Buu , No Universe where the Saiyans survived etc) Love Jiren & Hit tho
Anything in super is absolute mid at best. I'm re-reading the OG dragon ball and damn was it goated. I'd argue the tournament with piccolo Jr is the one of the top 5 arc of all dragon ball
48:28 the crazy thing about this is that it really feels like some of the worst animation and story quality in DB, but then that one episode with Goku vs Hearts the animation budget just goes through the roof for no reason. It's genuinely insane how that scene has better animation than everything in DBS - including the Ultra Instinct scenes
It makes my blood boil that super is dead and yet this series will just keep going on and on and on and on and on long after there game they were promoting which no one ever played and tbh I never liked multiple continuities
I loved the baby saga, as a kid I was actually scared because just imagine, all the people you know, the people you love, the people you spend time with suddenly became evil and wants to unalive you without you knowing why.
The ending of the goku black arc pisses me off more than anything else in dragon ball. Zamasu is in my opinion, the most unique and one of the coolest villains we've ever gotten. Especially merged zamasu. Him being a Kai it makes perfect sense he has access to potara. It's interesting how the fusion works. We know if 2 mortal fuse it's temporary. If 2 immortals fuse it's permanent. So we found out when you mix, it falls apart. Also kind of funny how he's basically just the same person when fused since he fused with himself. The ending made the whole arc less than worthless...
I see you homie, good tier list. I like that you gave a lot of respect to OGDB, not many people do that. However imo 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai > 21st.
As a 90’s kid it’s tough to explain just how hyped the namek saga was when it first aired in the states. The show was popular before that but it EXPLODED in popularity when that shit dropped. “Only toonami”
I think I was introduced to your channel from your reaction to Spider-Man in Civil War. My favorite moment had to be when we all celebrated Kefla getting eliminated 😂
@@lp-kt1huMui Goku having the gods stand up to him is one of the greatest moments in the franchise. UI being the amalgamation of Goku’s journey as a martial artists getting respected by the gods from being a low class warrior throughout out constantly pushing himself to new heights TOP is anything above mid.
Buu saga was the revelator for me. Seeing gotenks with purple hair And goku ss3 was my truest first experience of dragon ball It’s the best artwork your gonna find from 3 artists. Best faulcnor music. 2003 with toonami and buu was legendary for me. Thank you for this video I feel less alone
Watching the DBZ movies in the official English dub went hard because for some reason they had nu metal as the soundtrack went hard. It filled my 10 year old mind with so much testosterone when I watched them
I have never been so early for a video I have wanted to see my in entire life. The war that this comment section is about to become has got me beyond hyped up.
I think if you combine tien saga incredible fights plus the crazy world ending stakes at play with king piccolo saga. It's the most lit part of og dragon ball
Broly isn't bad but his second coming and bio broly misunderstood him alot so yeah I recommend you to rewatch the broly movie but in the english sub from Japanese because that sub makes the broly movie make more sense.
Ngl buu saga was my favorite too, I honestly just loved buus and mr.satans relationship, when buu went crazy over mr.satan getting shot I teared up and I don't get like that easy🤣 but the fact that everything they did was useless on him too, he was evil but innocent at the same time which in my opinion made him one of the scarier villians, an un killable baby that's murdering everyone and while not knowing it's bad was a crazy idea. Imagine you just got a 500 lbs unkillabke baby man with unfathomable strength crushing you wind pipe and watching you take your last breath while giggling cuz he thinks it's funny and just a game🤣
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Dragon Ball: The Michael Jordan of Anime
Quietly…. I’m a GT simp😮
You should react to the tfs arcs honestly I like it better than the series 🤷♂️
The goat
Hey Wes. I just have to say that I think your criticism of the 22nd tournament arc isn't really valid for one reason. You say every plot element was just standard shonen and that made it predictable. But dragonball is what set that standard in the first place. You can't use it being basic, standard shonen as a criticism when it's what set the standard. It's like criticizing star wars for being a standard Sci-Fi adventure movie when it's what set the standard for Sci-Fi adventure movies in the first place.
The Lionel Messi of anime
I liked the beginning of the Buu arc a lot because it showcased not only the aftermath of the Cell Saga, seeing as he’s the only villain in Z that the world was allowed to remember, but also because it slowed things down a bit and showed a more everyday-life for the characters. With 7 years of peace, the characters are just allowed to live. Gohan goes to school and shows what his life would be like outside of the world-ending threats. With his strength and good nature, it only made sense that he’d be interested in fighting crime and even becoming a super hero of sorts. It’s a nice contrast to the more hectic stuff that preceded and followed it and felt more like a school slice-of-life-meets-shonen type of vibe.
The Slice of life was so good
The Baby Saga was awesome, it’s a shame that the Shadow Dragon Arc couldn’t be on a similar level but that ending still hits hard.
I loved that arc in GT
Could've been better but the result of SS4 Gogeta was worth it
@@captainspaz8465not only to the homies but to us as the viewers. It was the perfect send off
So true. Goku departing to his friends really brings me to tears
I think im the only one who didn't like the ending😂
Dude the baby arc wasn't awesome. It was straight FIRE. Dragon ball never had such high stakes before. Baby accomplished way more than any other villain. He conquered the planet and it's people body and soul. Including the Z team. Goku was alone and extremely out gunned and out numbered. The COMEBACK WAS CRAZY SATISFYING.
The buu arc for all its flaws I got a bit of a soft spot for it
SAMEE it's my absolute favorite
@@WesSideLiveI hope you’re as hyped as I am for TFS version of it
I like the first half but it starts to fall apart once Goku leaves
@@JDWalker495Are they really releasing it?
@@Alboboy43
It's skits and clips scattered throughout the totally not mark Buu saga videos
Baby was a much more interesting antagonist compared to Zamasu/Goku Black.
I agree
Meh they pretty much the same I like them equally
10times over
@@waterh2o299zamasu saw some dinosaurs fighting and was like THATS IT THATS ENOUGH time to wipe out everybody💀💀💀
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for real Wes you should do a top 20 or 25 Arcs in Anime/Manga, i think that could be an interesting topic and a way to cover all your different favorite series in one big video.
TRUUU that might be a good idea
Hell he can do one for Cartoons and another for Movies too😂🤷♂️
I appreciate finding a content creator who recognizes Dragonball Multiverse as a superior tournament arc compared to Super's. It's refreshing to see this viewpoint being expressed. While I have a few dislikes about DBM, such as the excessive focus on Bra, I agree with Wes that it effectively presents what a multiversal tournament for this series should be like. DBM succeeded in presenting a more engaging story by focusing on different outcomes for known characters rather than introducing numerous irrelevant characters that the audience won't be/gets no time to be interested in.
I have been reading it for over 10 years now. It does a way better job than super did. Genuinely the only thing that scratches the DB itch since Z.
You do but you can't be saved
It’s literally the tournament of power but done so much better it actually makes me mad how shit the actual arc is in comparison. And this is coming from a former DBS fanboy
Yeah ,y favorite part was when Bra was never held responsible for her actions and got away scott free
Even though I have nostalgia for it, it was just fine, until it unravelled when they almost entirely focused on their OC (Bra).
As a kid it was the King Piccolo then Piccolo arc. As an adult, I enjoyed the Android then Cell Saga.
I love the Great Saiyaman/HS Gohan stuff. I know it’s considered garbage but I just can’t help it.
It has a lot of charm imo
Only 15 year old dorks ever said that. The older I get the more I appreciate the great saiyaman saga. It was a genuine change of pace
It was good
R.I.P THE GOAT Toryama
I know you only left out the Garlic Jr Saga because it would need another arc above GOAT to represent how it is the peak of human creativity. It just wouldn't be fair to confine that masterpiece to the description of a tier in a tier list, and I fully agree.
Lmaoooo
Garlic Junior is cool
I kinda liked that saga because some others then Goku got the spotlights😅
Goku Black arc’s ending is like the Bad Ending in a video game. My favorite arc in Super despite its many, many flaws. Black and Zamasu were a force to reckon with. Vegeta’s speech to Black and overall development is just great
That’s understandable
I could have excused the flaws if the ending wasn't dogshit.
Anytime Wes makes a tierlist u know the comments gonna be good 😆
Yeah
Tree of Might being Mid is a tragedy. That movie was actually my favorite out of that weird pre-Super Saiyan era of DBZ movies.
For real and Metal Cooler being above Revenge of Cooler is Wild Cooler is Better than Cooler🍷🗿
You haven’t truly popped off until cooler flying knee’s goku while official soundtrack disturbed is blasting.
I sometimes disagree a bunch with ya, but your enthusiasm and humor is damn great man. Top Tier entertainment.
I didn't watch all of the Dragon Ball anime, but I did watch the Battle of Gods movie and I love it. I like how Goku got humbled by a higher presence like Beerus. It showed that no amount of training could make you on par with the real deal. He did manage to achieve the God status for a moment, but only with the help of the other four saiyans. And even then, he found it difficult to control the God power and loses it after a while. At the end, he admitted defeat and accepted the fact that there are other beings in the universe that are far more powerful than he is.
The Saiyan God form is cool (for once, the form does not make Goku bulkier than usual). And the fact that Goku could only obtain this power through the help of the other four other saiyans means he could not spam this form all the time. Plus, Goku could not control this form and loses it after some time. This means that the power of God is too much for mortals, Goku included.
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Of course, the Resurrection of Frieza happened later (I also watched this movie) and everything I appreciate about the Super Saiyan God instantly got nullified. Personally, I don't like this movie because Goku and Vegeta now got taught by Whiz and Beerus for some reason (Beerus is a God of Destruction, not a teacher). Also, both Goku and Vegeta now managed to obtain and control an even higher form of Saiyan than the Super Saiyan God. This destroys the concept of power scaling because now, both of them are matching the power of the Gods, which makes them too OP for the rest of characters in DB universe, hence why the next tournament is against the Gods.
In my opinion, they should just make the Super Saiyan God the highest form of Saiyan. Make it an ultra-rare thing and cannot be used often. However, I know that the DB fans likes to one-up the power scale with each new DB entries. Well, each to their own, I guess.
Yepp.. saiyan blue was such a bs thing to add..
I too cried when GT ended as a kid. Still makes me watery eyed if I watch it now. There's no other way it should be done. If Toriyama & Toyotaro ever 'end' Dragon Ball, that'd be a good ending.
Not for me😂
@RockyD12 Ok, Yamcha
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Honestly that long winded training in the Saiyan Arc is almost all anime exclusive, so that manga version is just tight as shit. Gas gas gas all the way through. Such a well constructed story.
There have been Gods being introduced all through out Dragon Ball, Beerus and Whis being added only made sense as a way to further develop Goku & Vegeta.
Piccolo Jr, Cell Arc and Frieza Arc are GOATED. The beginning of the Buu Arc, GOATED 😂🔥🔥
idk if androids count as an arc but that’s one of my favorites too
I will always stand by that as a CONCEPT the Shadow Dragon arc , or something similar, is the best way to end dragon ball. It could easily be the best arc of DB. Especially now when we had 4 sets of dragon balls active during the Granolah arc. Even now its still 3. Karma should come for them
8:43 i know the japanese kids were having their minds blown with all that info. Especially since there was no hiatus or gap between Z and DB.
Ok story wise Rattiz not being included after all this time is CRIMINAL
Who tf is Rattiz
"Toriyama could have been Vince Mcmahon" 😂
One hell of a video! I'm glad you put some respect on GT!
Goku vs Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga will always be THAT fight it's so good narratively. This is the fight that I'm always looking for to any anime that I watch
always get goosebumps seeing that fight. especially when goku goes kaioken 4x when he was told he could die going past 2x. just such an awesome fight and establishes goku pushing it beyond the limit
Goku vs Vegeta is Piccolo Jr vs Goku 2.0, for the most part. It's not exactly the same, but there are a lot of similarities. Every single fight in the series after that 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai final tried to be a copy. It was basically the benchmark. The only thing that was missing from it were the loud bang noises that were first used when Piccolo fought 2nd form Freeza on Namek.
Saiyan saga is underrated, every time I consume anything pertaining to it I find myself in a loop of dragon ball content, it’s just such a fun arc
Hello. Excellent ranking. Dragon Ball Z is my favorite anime period. It's always fun to listen to another fan talk about the show and universe.
TERRANCE OUT
Im on rewatching the whole series once again, still enjoying it, still loving it. I like your style, nice video man
One of the main things about dragon ball (Z in particular) is that it was many peoples first introduction to what anime really is like when not episodic. That first time feeling is impossible to replicate, even if you are watching it for the first time now.
0:48 I TOTALLY forgot thats how I found u bro LOL! Idk if you remember me Wes but its me LumpKing. I wasa fellow db and anime reactor 😂💯
nice tierlist
i get you about the buu arc, because the first half literally feels like it's gonna be the greatest arc ever but somewhere around the Super Buu-Fusions sections you can really feel it fumbling and losing direction and then of course followed by one of the most shameless retcons in anime history of bringing goku back to save the day, taking the torch back the torch that he had passed, yet even then that second half of the Buu arc has some of the most iconic stuff in DB history and it was always still highly entertaining
personally wouldnt put the Buu arc at the top of my list but i respect it when others do, it really is peak entertainment
I feel like a lot of people skip the Dragon Ball series and just jumps to the Z series. I personally go back to the first series mostly because the fights have more focus on the Martial Arts, but the comedy and the adventure is still a lot of fun to rewatch.
This list is hella inconsistent (pilaf arc above wt23 is insane to me)
Nah it did a lot of world building
The Battle of Gods movie is prolly one of my faves personally
Say what you want about the movies. Their end credits songs is godlike
i'd put goku black arc above mid, while i agree the ending was the worst ever, the character interactions, fight scenes, transformations, and choreography felt like such a breath of fresh air after the janky ass frame by frame bullshit they had going in the beginning of super p̶l̶u̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶v̶e̶g̶i̶t̶o̶ I'm not biased.
I don't mind this take
Yeah
The Vegeta copy arc is good because they brought back the og Vegeta va to voice the copy. Try to escape his wrath😅
Yes🍷🗿
What gt didn't have the og va
Wess you woke up today choose violence and pick a fight with the dragon ball community
The balls on you my good man
I watched the abridged version so many times it wired itself into my brain I can barely remember what the og was like
There’s reason why Dragon Ball is THE textbook of shonen🔥🔥
Kinda find it odd he says to look at Z from the perspective of someone who hasn't seen dragon ball or seen Z before but when he was talking about OG dragon ball he brought up criticisms comparing it to shounen tropes of today. Am I missing something or is this not a little biased? He still said OG was good I'm just curious. Multiverse has some big problems to with how the tournament kept gettinf derailed and how it became the Bra show for a while.
I'm talking about the story telling elements of someone who just got finished watching dragon ball in it's heyday transitioning to Z with the hype. and i only brought up that criticism for 22nd not all of dragon ball.
@@WesSideLive Gotcha
Damn you impressed me with your original DB/manga knowledge on this one. I didn’t fully agree with the rankings but I can tell you’re familiar with the series so I respect it
I'll be honest, Dragon ball super is my guilty pleasure, it's just so fun sometimes.
Bro I just finished reading the buu saga for the totally not mark review, and the intimidation he gave off wasn't less it was just different. Man turned chi chi into a fucking egg
The Buu Saga take is just so based. My fav saga also
Cell/Android Saga is my favorite; Time travel, mystery of the android threat, Vegeta’s pride turned up to 100, hyperbolic time chamber, instant transmission Kamehameha, Gohan going SSJ2, Goku sacrificing himself, Gohan and Cell beam struggle, Vegeta letting Cell reach 100%, Final Flash, so many great iconic moments. This arc really kept you guessing what was going to happen next and really had an air of mystery and suspense to it and Cell’s introduction was almost like a horror movie lmao man was sucking up everything 😮💨
Spitting facts on the super 17 arc, he’s just cool as heck.
The Universe of Tournament arc couldve been way better if they actually used the DB multiverse (No Vegito, No Broly No God Buu , No Universe where the Saiyans survived etc) Love Jiren & Hit tho
Jiren was the worst part
Understandable that’s okay
Toriyama on Cell Saga is just on another level on that arc it's like he deserve a unanimous MVP.
Buu saga is so underrated. It has sooo many amazing moments!! I’d say A tier!
Anything in super is absolute mid at best.
I'm re-reading the OG dragon ball and damn was it goated. I'd argue the tournament with piccolo Jr is the one of the top 5 arc of all dragon ball
Also Dragon ball as a whole should have ended with Cell. All arcs were finished and completed at that moment.
Super definitely has some above mid stuff, even some really good stuff.
I guess we'll have to disagree.
@@grunt9950Moro and Granolah are better than Buu writing wise on the Cell saga level.
@@T_money808 bot
48:28 the crazy thing about this is that it really feels like some of the worst animation and story quality in DB, but then that one episode with Goku vs Hearts the animation budget just goes through the roof for no reason. It's genuinely insane how that scene has better animation than everything in DBS - including the Ultra Instinct scenes
Na that was copied of of one piece
It makes my blood boil that super is dead and yet this series will just keep going on and on and on and on and on long after there game they were promoting which no one ever played and tbh I never liked multiple continuities
Your old dragon ball reactions were top tier on TH-cam Fr fr
The Android/Cell saga to this day is the only piece of media/entertainment to do time travel in the right way. That’s how amazing it is.
I honestly would’ve put super broly in Z and super hero in B at the minimum cuz they at least gave piccolo some love
I loved the baby saga, as a kid I was actually scared because just imagine, all the people you know, the people you love, the people you spend time with suddenly became evil and wants to unalive you without you knowing why.
Watching the show as a kid and hearing goku scream Kio Ken x10 and that yell man and still seeing vegeta try to go at it. Jorobe is the goat btw.
Buu saga is like ya mentioned it, the highest high and lowest low. Vegito doe and super saiyan 3!
The ending of the goku black arc pisses me off more than anything else in dragon ball. Zamasu is in my opinion, the most unique and one of the coolest villains we've ever gotten. Especially merged zamasu. Him being a Kai it makes perfect sense he has access to potara. It's interesting how the fusion works. We know if 2 mortal fuse it's temporary. If 2 immortals fuse it's permanent. So we found out when you mix, it falls apart. Also kind of funny how he's basically just the same person when fused since he fused with himself. The ending made the whole arc less than worthless...
That is understandable
I just can't bring myself to disagree.
@@sydneyowusu3750 that’s understandable because you find it aggravating as well right?
I see you homie, good tier list. I like that you gave a lot of respect to OGDB, not many people do that. However imo 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai > 21st.
My ninja 14:06 💯
Also, S/O to the weight loss brother 🤜🏽. It's definitely recognized.
As a 90’s kid it’s tough to explain just how hyped the namek saga was when it first aired in the states. The show was popular before that but it EXPLODED in popularity when that shit dropped. “Only toonami”
I don't know if I've ever watched a video that I agreed with more. Well done 👏
I've never been able to bring myself to rewatch the resurrection f arc 😭😭
How ironic I just finished the totally not mark video and I get the notification of this video
Baby saga was indeed the best arc in GT.
No debate.
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I think I was introduced to your channel from your reaction to Spider-Man in Civil War.
My favorite moment had to be when we all celebrated Kefla getting eliminated 😂
A fellow Buu Saga enjoyer?! That’s rare, despite the flaws in the arc! I love it too 🙌
Buu saga is the goat
Buu saga not the best written, but imo the most fun.
The king piccolo arc is fucking goated y'all trippin
The buu saga seems more like a dragon ball saga than a Z saga, but the moments hit sooo hard
We all remember when you dumped milk on yourself for MUI Goku and how you adored Toppo on his ROIDS! 😂
Yeah he poured milk on himself 😂😂
Still just above mid
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@@lp-kt1huMui Goku having the gods stand up to him is one of the greatest moments in the franchise. UI being the amalgamation of Goku’s journey as a martial artists getting respected by the gods from being a low class warrior throughout out constantly pushing himself to new heights TOP is anything above mid.
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We got to get anime tier list from you! That would be 🔥 keep up the good content
36:04 well if you put it like that then I can agree with you. I liked some of the mini fights that went on there
Yoooo! Wes I can notice u lost hella weight keep it up bro I’m proud of you💙💯💯
14:02 agree! It's the best saga!!!
Buu saga was the revelator for me.
Seeing gotenks with purple hair
And goku ss3 was my truest first experience of dragon ball
It’s the best artwork your gonna find from 3 artists. Best faulcnor music.
2003 with toonami and buu was legendary for me.
Thank you for this video
I feel less alone
been here since you were pouring milk and water on yourself in super reactions lmao 😂 the nostalgia is crazy
Goku’s brother was definitely wasted. Which more was done with him.
Facts knowing what we know about Saiyan now...bro just came and left like he was never here💀😭
Why do people say this shit? Just because he's Goku's bro doesn't mean he's interesting.
Ive never watched DB, sadly didnt have the chance as a yound lad but still gonna respect Pastor Wes' tier list
Yes wesssssss the Baby Arc getting the love it deserves
Shoot out to everyone who's been here since he pulled out the milk for goku
lmao
This list shows when DB is good it’s GOOOOOD , but when it’s bad it’s straight up terrible
The super broly and superhero movies are amazing, they were cooking with straight gas with those imo, I’m really suprised you put superhero that low
Watching the DBZ movies in the official English dub went hard because for some reason they had nu metal as the soundtrack went hard. It filled my 10 year old mind with so much testosterone when I watched them
having most of dragon ball’s arcs in B tier has to be a crime
I have never been so early for a video I have wanted to see my in entire life. The war that this comment section is about to become has got me beyond hyped up.
Some people confuse arc with saga.
In Dragon Ball Saga are:
-Goku Saga (Pilaf Arc, 21st Tournament Arc)
-Red Ribbon Army Saga (Muscle Tower Arc, General Blue Arc, Commander Red Arc, Baba Arc)
-Piccolo Saga (22nd Tournament Arc, King Piccolo Arc, Piccolo Jr Arc)
-Saiyan Saga
-Frieza Saga (Namek Arc, Commando Ginyu Arc, Frieza Arc)
-Androids Saga (Trunks Arc, Androids Arc, Cell Arc)
-Majins Saga (25th Tournament Arc, Babidi Arc, Buu Arc, Fusion Arc, Original Buu Arc)
-Gods of Destruction Saga (Beerus Arc, Golden Frieza Arc)
-Zeno Saga (Universe 6 Arc, Zamasu Arc, Universal Survival Arc)
-Universe 7 Saga (Broly Arc, Moro Arc, Granolah Arc, Super Hero Arc)
-Baby Saga
-Super 17 Saga
-Black Dragons Saga
According to me:
1)Frieza Saga
2)Androids Saga
3)Saiyans Saga
4)Zeno Saga
5)Piccolo Saga
6)Majins Saga
7)Universe 7 Saga
8)Baby Saga
9)Red Ribbon Saga
10)Goku Saga
11)Black Dragons Saga
12)Gods of Destruction Saga
13)Super 17 Saga
Don't forget , Vegeta had the best dialogue/ speeches in the buu saga
The fact that most of Super was bad except for the Tournament of Power by a little mile is amazing to me
I think if you combine tien saga incredible fights plus the crazy world ending stakes at play with king piccolo saga. It's the most lit part of og dragon ball
Broly isn't bad but his second coming and bio broly misunderstood him alot so yeah I recommend you to rewatch the broly movie but in the english sub from Japanese because that sub makes the broly movie make more sense.
The only defense I have for Jelly Vegeta is that Funimation took the opportunity to get Ryan Drummond as Vegeta.
Ngl buu saga was my favorite too, I honestly just loved buus and mr.satans relationship, when buu went crazy over mr.satan getting shot I teared up and I don't get like that easy🤣 but the fact that everything they did was useless on him too, he was evil but innocent at the same time which in my opinion made him one of the scarier villians, an un killable baby that's murdering everyone and while not knowing it's bad was a crazy idea. Imagine you just got a 500 lbs unkillabke baby man with unfathomable strength crushing you wind pipe and watching you take your last breath while giggling cuz he thinks it's funny and just a game🤣
This was fun to watch! I think it'd be really cool to see one of these for Naruto as well!!
Super and GT arent that great, but Super did enough world building wise to make it actually enjoyable on some level unlike GT.
Man given that Gohan is my favorite character, him going Super Saiyan 2 and beating Cell was hype af😂
"Hes the dippiest character in dragon ball" *leather clothes vegeta walks in*
Been waiting on it🔥🔥🔥