Very interesting! I've been wanting for this video since you showed the concept months ago. I know that engineering signed off on this but it's still mind boggling that the exterior of this house will support basically 10 cars hanging on the walls.
is that pressure treated strapping cut? because cutting pressure treated wood exposes the inner wood material which did not receive treatment; pressure treatment only goes so deep
@@anthonyenosis1 The oldest entirely wooden building in Norway was built in 1170. That is 855 years old, not sure if there are any records that list what pressure treament they used back then.
I'm really interested to see how the exterior window soffits are being finished with that cement shake, or is it just being skinned with cedar for a nod to the design while adding contrast to the raw cement finish.
comments section is on point as usual, you gotta love it. blue collar mind set has these guys pissed they'll never get to work on a project of this caliber. If you don't get it then don't buy it. If you can't understand the value of pushing the limits then you don't understand the luxury market, period. "build a more affordable house waa waa waa," that's already been done, why would we want a video of some cardboard shit box being built? Well done Nick + Team, stoked to see the siding up and very curious to see how you do the hardscaping and plantings. Exceptional attentional to detail and BALLSY to do on spec.
Haha. I was thinking the same thing… we could build less expensive homes for the “greater good” and maybe we will but this is about building 1-of-1 art pieces that ☝️ person will appreciate. Ballsy indeed but the buyer is out there!
I love the idea but I know first hand the cost. It's a major cost to install such a system. (I have a similar rainscreen/rockwool system, not 5 inches though!) The 10 inch fasteners every 12 inches alone is a hefty cost. Glad they chose the rigth builder to do it too. Meticulous detail is so important to install this correctly. From everything I seen over the many videos I have seen from NS, they are very skilled and qualified to do such a job.
Would be worried about fastening those tiles with screws. The movement in the furring strips behind from season to season might crack them. Nails would at least give them some movement.
Hardie recommends color matched flashing for butt joints. IMO it's better to add those on this project as well. No reason to allow unnecessary water if there's a solution.
@@kennethbarber438 not just water but any clever insect? screens top & bottom don’t help much then. This is so over-engineered it’s impossible to believe they just ignore all these butt joints that will have gaps. Bizarre.
1. that's a ton of comfortboard. is there interior insulation as well? 2. why siga versus other products? 3. are the studs regular 2x4s? seems easy to miss
In driving rain, how much water penetration would you get between the vertical join on the shingles? Or due to the air gap you would just expect it to dry out fine even in winter?
As NS Builders says, this design isn't for everyone. I can see some overuse of resources on that exterior, but this build technique generates a lot of food for thought (and comments!). I would like to visit it again 50 and 100 years from now to learn what went right, and what didn't.
@@NSBuilders Interesting! Looking into it I find Rockwool has around an R=3 / inch and triple glaze an R=3, makes sense. Looking forward to following your build.
@@MM-sf3rl thinking the same thing. In fact, let’s go all aluminum; horizontal and vertical. You could probably get bigger spaces from center to center due to the higher strength.
That is some serious insulation mate, love those chunky tiles. It's like the house is wearing a suit of armor lol. Not sure if we have any of these products in Australia.
Mate...we built our house exactly the same way in Ballarat without the stupid wall tiles (see my earlier whinge). I wouldn't even put tiles on a roof so why would you want to put them on a wall??!! Everything is readily available in Oz with a bit of hunting around. Tradies grumble coz they haven't done it before but with the proper design it is so quick they just shut up and get on with it. We used timber composite and 50 year old reclaimed BHP corri iron for the cladding. Looks great, costs bugger all and the insulation value is off the chart. give it a go mate, you won't regret it. Just think lightweight cladding which brings all specs and cost down so it is less expensive than brick veneer. Batts cost next to nothing, you don't need the expensive rockwool products, ya just gotta think about how you install it for more than 20 secs. Get down to Bunnings, you can get everything you need from there.
@@darroncrick9993 Thanks for the info mate. The tiles on the walls are for the looks I guess, I wouldn't have them, too heavy. I just like the super thick wall insulation which works for extreme heat as well as cold.
I think it would still be a good idea to add a color matching flashing behind every brick butt joint. Relatively small investment not to allow water through those joints.
I think for two reasons: 1. Plywood is stronger then OSB, so you have more shear capacity. Don't forget the huge size of every window opening. 2. Plywood + SA Majrex 500 is more vapor open then ZIP.
@@NSBuilders I think you guys do a great job, and like someone else said, your attention to detail will make this pay off long term for the owner. The upfront cost is what my reaction is aimed at. The labor to do this process is intensive, especially doing it correctly. Let alone a couple dollars for each screw... One question while I have your attention, I was curious as to the fire safety risk as we've had a couple wildfires in MA the last couple years near my area. Does the rockwool qualify as a fire barrier/retardant, and the rain screen and supporting structure of it just shed from the main building if ash gets behind it and starts a fire? Thanks for your time!
This is a bit confusing to me, shouldent the rockwool be behind the OSB with the membrane? All porous insulationbats works best when you have non moving air in them. If it was like a closed foam EPS boards it would be a different story.
Kyle sounds like a hater😂 . Mortar requires maintenance this will not. Sl0ls not really, it’ll dry and be more than fine, plenty of timber has lasted 100s of years
I like the product and love the look, but unless you are trying to stop bullets, I don't see why the tiles have to be so thick and heavy. It looks like the tiles have a mesh fiber embedded in them, so it can't be about strength and, in the end, once installed, any view of the siding wouldn't reveal the thickness of the tile.
15 minute call - but only deep-pocket clients need call😂 I'd like to know the cost of just the screws and stainless flashing. Labor to rip and install all the beveled treated strapping...yikes. 75-100 yr assembly with 500 yr exterior cladding. Pity the fool who buys that home a century from now and finds out it's a million to remove and replace the 500 yr cladding.
Perspective... I pity the fools currently buying newly built homes thinking they'll last more than 10 years without major renovations. Who cares what the cost of these screws are? They can clearly afford them. So can the person buying this house in 100 years. This channel is about building sturdy, robust, beautiful homes... May not be for you.
Seems a bit short sighted to only build it to last 75-100 years. My very average house in the UK is 96 years old, the brick walls will last another century with virtually no maintenance.
@NSBuilders thank you for the reply. What strengths of this system makes you prefer vs the competition? I don't have a dog in the fight and certainly not criticizing. Just hoping to learn more about what leads you to prefer one vs the other.
sad they used pressure treated lumber. They use crap lumber to make, it is soft. Regular fir would be much better, there is no contact with the ground. The ventilation would ensure the lumber lasts centuries.
All new buildings should be designed with large roof overhangs. The large overhang provides beauty and protection from the sun, rain and wind. Protection of the doors, windows and siding make for a more durable and comfortable home. Water is the enemy of buildings. All homes should be built to accommodate the elderly and disabled. This will be better for everyone. Large wide doorways and hallways make using a cane, walker or wheel chair much easier. Bathrooms or wet rooms need to have flat floors and no shower hump or pan. A flat floor allows for easy access and drains need to provided. Easy to use lever door and faucet handles are easier for the elderly to grip and open. Main floors should include a master bedroom, restroom, shower, laundry and wide walk in closet with few steps to enter. Homes should be designed with aging in place in mind. New homes should come with solar panels, a rain water collection system and an electric vehicle charger in the garage.
Why use heavy cladding for the rain screen? Our build was pretty much identical except we used timber composite for the screen. The embedded energy in those cladding shingles is off the chart, not to mentioned the added engineering and mass required to carry the load. Kind of a FU to the environment considering there are so many other eco-friendlier products available. It annoys me when a great building system, like rainscreen + external insulation is marginalised by making it ridiculously expensive with useless features. Done right it is a cost effective system with fantastic benefits for everyone. Rain screen design is fantastic just don't ruin it with a cladding which probably adds to cost of a normal home to the overall build for zero additional benefit......
Sure, if you have $3 million+ to build a home. If you use Zip-R12 over 2x4 studs filled with closed cell foam, 1/4" plastic mesh rainscreen, and lap siding you'd have water/air tight walls at R-30+. Regular window and door jambs made for 2x6 construction will fit perfectly without bucks to extend them, as you'd need here for very thick walls. If you have the money, build it this way but 99% of people don't.
@@bobbray9666 Spray foam isn´t a healthy solution and turns your building into chemical waste. There are better options. Buy you are right, building this way is only nice for the contractor.
Oh yeah this is definitely $3m+ and this isn’t for 99%. But the education we share is to help those building ALL type of homes, especially when code changes and alot of the details will be required and we will experience a huge learning curve which means we will see a huge cost issue. Even on the 99% homes
ZIP R-sheathing makes your walls too much vapor closed which is a negaitve in a climate with cold winters (CZ-4 and above). Most spray foams will start to crack over the years... so you can not count on their air tightness in the course of the years. The poly iso of the ZIP R boards and spray foam insulate well in theory but not in practice due to the lack of thermal mass (inertia). Cellulose, wood fibers, cotton,... are better options. Poly iso, spray foam, EPS, XPS ... do NOT insulate against sound (noise). It would be nice to see what the actual price difference would between your wall proposal and a "better" one... 2x4 + ZIP R-12 + Closed cell spray foam vs 2x4 + plywood + SA WRB + 2" external TimberBoard (or Rockwool Comfortboard) + cellulose. Don't look too much to the R-value of the walls... it's better to look at the thermal mass (inertia) as this give you better protection against cold nights and summertime heat.
Laughable. My pre WW2 home in northen Sweden has none of that fancy stuff and its in perfect condition. Too many modern engineers needing to justify their jobs with nonsense who don't really know what they are doing. That house looks like an over engineered joke.
What’s perfect condition mean? Building an enduring home is only part of the formula. Just because it’s more “engineered” that your home doesn’t make it better nor worse. It makes it different and perform different. Just like the drivetrain of a super car vs a Honda civic. Both do the “same” thing for different reasons.
I think it’s cool, definitely well thought out and well executed. But it’s very American. In other words, it’s filled with proprietary new tech that is neat, expensive, ridiculous, and temporary. In Europe they’ll just build that house out of concrete and stone. It will be cheaper and their great grandkids’ great grandkids can live in it.
Matt, I’m curious what you feel is proprietary tech, the installation and even the membranes are all used over in Europe. It’s true that in America you see more wood framing, but I’m not really seeing much more than that as a difference between here and Europe.
How do you figure? The exterior is non-combustible. The cavity is protected from embers via the bug screen. The continuous mineral wool boards is rated as being a fire stop. The one detail that I would quibble with is that pressure treated furring is the wrong material. It should be should be plain lumber treated fire retarded after being beveled.
building for the 1%. so cool. ill sheath my exterior for the price of the 10" SD's screws you used on that house. hipster building that only a few builders in each state would ever do, for 1 off customs.
Does anyone need to do a video on the typical as cheap as possible DR Horton track home build? Continuous insulation outside the framing will save money in the long run esp if it's detailed correctly. It will so.e money up front as you don't need as much insulation in your stud cavities
Have you ever seen those gearheads that go to extraordinary lengths refurbishing cars with incredible details on their engines ("stuff that doesn't matter"). "Why on earth would you spend all that money putting chrome on your engine? It is just a car. No one will see the motor going down the road" There is this thing called craftsmanship. It is a tiny sliver of the population. It is people who care and want to do things the right way. For the other people, go buy a track home from DR Horton with cardboard sheathing, hacked framing, and built as cheaply as possible. If you are going to spend money overbuilding something, why wouldn't it be something you occupy all the time?
In many parts of the country, exterior insulation is now becoming code minimum in certain climate types...it can be done cheaper than this particular design and build, 🤷🏾♂️ Also, just cause you want the absolute minimum in a house build does not mean that is the best way to build... "Building to code" just means someone built the cheapest home they you could build and get away without being sued for ineptitude...
If you spend any time in cold climates in western Europe and observe how they are constructing buildings, you would see this exterior insulation and rain screen detail pretty frequently. Just because you might not see it in North America too often doesn't mean that there's not a good reason for doing it. Why not continue to up the game in residential construction here?
at that point it would make more sense to just frame another wall to hold up the cladding. anchored to the house solidly but sparsely. what kind of bank finances something like this?
6:45 "can last 500 plus years..." Blah blah blah I'm so sick & tired of these builders & homeowners wannabes yapping about these 100, 200 now *500* year houses. What tosh. Build a house normal people can live in & afford. You just don't realize how you sound like some weasely teacher's pet looking for approval
Kind of a silly comment. Rain screens done well are pretty smart. I get the advantages of lumber, though I personally don't want to use ANY wood (warping, termites, mold, fire, higher insurance, etc)... but I wouldn't call it dumb.
This is an amazing build. Very well thought out. Congrats on such a unique project.
Thanks 🙏
Love the videos man. Keep pumping out content 👍
You got it Michael
What a great space for critters down the road. It doesn’t matter how well you seal it today, critters will find their way in eventually.
You think? 🐿️
Very interesting! I've been wanting for this video since you showed the concept months ago.
I know that engineering signed off on this but it's still mind boggling that the exterior of this house will support basically 10 cars hanging on the walls.
And the vertical two by's only have to be screwed into the plywood and not a stud is concerning
@briand3837 pretty sure he specifically said they hit structural studs
@@briand3837they’re screwed into the stud. We mention that
cant wait to see the final result
Same 😊
is that pressure treated strapping cut? because cutting pressure treated wood exposes the inner wood material which did not receive treatment; pressure treatment only goes so deep
Yeah, I was wondering if it's pre-beveled or cut on site.
Pre-cutting everything to exact spec then pressure treating before shipping to the site don't sound realistic.
@anthonyenosis1 it shouldnt need to be pressure treated. As it has airflow so it can dry out if any water gets past the siding
@@Fulcrum205 cool so then we dont need sheething for houses either? just as long as after each rain the dry out, we should be good?
@@anthonyenosis1 The oldest entirely wooden building in Norway was built in 1170. That is 855 years old, not sure if there are any records that list what pressure treament they used back then.
Great Post and discussion
Thanks
Great stuff as always ! Thanks !
Thanks jack
I'm really interested to see how the exterior window soffits are being finished with that cement shake, or is it just being skinned with cedar for a nod to the design while adding contrast to the raw cement finish.
All “trim” is either a metal fin or flat stock
That’s an awesome hidden plinko wall. Price is Right would be proud
I just called him. He confirmed. Very proud
Would be nice to see a finished house.
We posted one last week Kevin. Where have you been
I have pine beetles that squeeze through very tight opening. Any info if they can get through the butt joints? Thanks.
Probably.
If I'm ever so lucky to build my own house, I'll definitely go with exterior insulation.
Great detail. Especially in our climate
Has the system been tested with the ember generator - fan test system?
Blower door? Should pass with flying colors.
comments section is on point as usual, you gotta love it. blue collar mind set has these guys pissed they'll never get to work on a project of this caliber. If you don't get it then don't buy it. If you can't understand the value of pushing the limits then you don't understand the luxury market, period. "build a more affordable house waa waa waa," that's already been done, why would we want a video of some cardboard shit box being built?
Well done Nick + Team, stoked to see the siding up and very curious to see how you do the hardscaping and plantings. Exceptional attentional to detail and BALLSY to do on spec.
Haha. I was thinking the same thing… we could build less expensive homes for the “greater good” and maybe we will but this is about building 1-of-1 art pieces that ☝️ person will appreciate.
Ballsy indeed but the buyer is out there!
What keeps all that wood from burning if it catches fire? How would you put it out?
Amazing ♥️
I'm curious about the usage of Siga membrane over using something like zip system. Is the performance or time to install different between the two?
They “do” the same thing but perform differently. All comes down the the way the envelope is design to perform. Especially in terms of vapor
It is going to look sharp with that "fin"! The compound angle is no issue for you guys!
Couple test cuts should do it
I love the idea but I know first hand the cost. It's a major cost to install such a system. (I have a similar rainscreen/rockwool system, not 5 inches though!) The 10 inch fasteners every 12 inches alone is a hefty cost. Glad they chose the rigth builder to do it too. Meticulous detail is so important to install this correctly. From everything I seen over the many videos I have seen from NS, they are very skilled and qualified to do such a job.
Thanks 🙏 yes it’s costly.
Would be worried about fastening those tiles with screws. The movement in the furring strips behind from season to season might crack them. Nails would at least give them some movement.
Most likely they will not tighten screws (leaving like half a millimeter for movement)
This installation method is incredibly old and time-tested, it’s basically a tile roof.
Great point but it’s what they recommend
what will prevent water from passing through butt joints ?
Nothing. That’s why it has a rain screen. Water is allowed behind the siding.
Hardie recommends color matched flashing for butt joints. IMO it's better to add those on this project as well. No reason to allow unnecessary water if there's a solution.
@@CMCraftsman it's ok for insulation to get wet? Seems dicey.
@@kennethbarber438 Normally not but Rockwool Comfortboard is water repellent.
@@kennethbarber438 not just water but any clever insect? screens top & bottom don’t help much then. This is so over-engineered it’s impossible to believe they just ignore all these butt joints that will have gaps. Bizarre.
Great video, thanks. What is the brand for those screws holding the 2x4 strapping?
Rothablaas
1. that's a ton of comfortboard. is there interior insulation as well?
2. why siga versus other products?
3. are the studs regular 2x4s? seems easy to miss
1. Yes comfortbatt inside. 10.5” of total insulation. 2. Nope just preference. 3. Yes.
In driving rain, how much water penetration would you get between the vertical join on the shingles? Or due to the air gap you would just expect it to dry out fine even in winter?
Enough, but it’ll dry
Hi, i love ypur exterior platform, where did you get them feom what is the company name? Wjat is your type of platform called. Thank you
Not sure
As NS Builders says, this design isn't for everyone. I can see some overuse of resources on that exterior, but this build technique generates a lot of food for thought (and comments!). I would like to visit it again 50 and 100 years from now to learn what went right, and what didn't.
In how far do the screws make a cold bridge and lower the R value? (I am just starting to learn about construction)
I mean we’re talking a very small percentage. Far less than the windows will be…
@@NSBuilders Interesting! Looking into it I find Rockwool has around an R=3 / inch and triple glaze an R=3, makes sense. Looking forward to following your build.
Why not use aluminum horizontal runners as they would outlast the wood.
@@MM-sf3rl thinking the same thing. In fact, let’s go all aluminum; horizontal and vertical. You could probably get bigger spaces from center to center due to the higher strength.
You would need a custom shape to get the french cleat effect. In practice, this house will last until some one wants something different.
Wood is perfectly fine and will last with the rain screen details
Crazy that meager 2x6 (2x4 in older houses) can hold so much weight.
That's nothing compared to the potential roof and second floor load
I could support far more weight that we have
Is there a US supplier in the southeast that might offer this Petersen Cover brick? I couldn’t find any info for distribution on their website.
We purchased direct. No distribution here.
That is some serious insulation mate, love those chunky tiles.
It's like the house is wearing a suit of armor lol.
Not sure if we have any of these products in Australia.
Mate...we built our house exactly the same way in Ballarat without the stupid wall tiles (see my earlier whinge). I wouldn't even put tiles on a roof so why would you want to put them on a wall??!! Everything is readily available in Oz with a bit of hunting around. Tradies grumble coz they haven't done it before but with the proper design it is so quick they just shut up and get on with it. We used timber composite and 50 year old reclaimed BHP corri iron for the cladding. Looks great, costs bugger all and the insulation value is off the chart. give it a go mate, you won't regret it. Just think lightweight cladding which brings all specs and cost down so it is less expensive than brick veneer. Batts cost next to nothing, you don't need the expensive rockwool products, ya just gotta think about how you install it for more than 20 secs.
Get down to Bunnings, you can get everything you need from there.
@@darroncrick9993 Thanks for the info mate. The tiles on the walls are for the looks I guess, I wouldn't have them, too heavy.
I just like the super thick wall insulation which works for extreme heat as well as cold.
Sounds like you can get it! Love aus architecture
I think it would still be a good idea to add a color matching flashing behind every brick butt joint. Relatively small investment not to allow water through those joints.
Unnecessary but i get it
Nick what is the purpose of having a tile that is that thick?
Aesthetics
What are the reasons to use Majrex instead of zip?
I think for two reasons:
1. Plywood is stronger then OSB, so you have more shear capacity. Don't forget the huge size of every window opening.
2. Plywood + SA Majrex 500 is more vapor open then ZIP.
Just preference. But Koenraad makes great points
Is that a model home for building in Antarctica?
No way have you see. The buildings built down there? Insane
HOT CHOCO-DUNK!
What brand is this masonry tile siding?
Petersen Tegl
What is this cladding?
I know i like those tiles/shingles
It could be the Petersen Tegl Cover
@@jorntwthat looks like it, thanks
Amazing details.
Yes Petersen tegl cover
How much was it? What is the pricing on it?
How much was what? The Petersen cover brick? I’d call them and ask. It’s not inexpensive
Holy shit this is expensive!! How much a sqft for this nice insulation?
Talk to Rockwool or look up Comfortboard 110
@@NSBuilders I think you guys do a great job, and like someone else said, your attention to detail will make this pay off long term for the owner. The upfront cost is what my reaction is aimed at. The labor to do this process is intensive, especially doing it correctly. Let alone a couple dollars for each screw...
One question while I have your attention, I was curious as to the fire safety risk as we've had a couple wildfires in MA the last couple years near my area. Does the rockwool qualify as a fire barrier/retardant, and the rain screen and supporting structure of it just shed from the main building if ash gets behind it and starts a fire? Thanks for your time!
This is a bit confusing to me, shouldent the rockwool be behind the OSB with the membrane? All porous insulationbats works best when you have non moving air in them.
If it was like a closed foam EPS boards it would be a different story.
This is ComfortBoard not Batt. And designed to be outboard of the WRB
@@NSBuilders Are they sealed in any way? I know rockwool is good with water but the less the air move the better value.
I had no idea that mortarless masonry lasted longer than mortared... it makes sense though. Cool video thank you
They "think" it will
The rain screen will have to be replaced long before mortar would need serious work. But it looks great and should perform well.
Kyle sounds like a hater😂 . Mortar requires maintenance this will not. Sl0ls not really, it’ll dry and be more than fine, plenty of timber has lasted 100s of years
I like the product and love the look, but unless you are trying to stop bullets, I don't see why the tiles have to be so thick and heavy. It looks like the tiles have a mesh fiber embedded in them, so it can't be about strength and, in the end, once installed, any view of the siding wouldn't reveal the thickness of the tile.
There is no mesh, and that’s just how they’re made. We didn’t manufacturer them so I’m unsure why they ended up that thick
15 minute call - but only deep-pocket clients need call😂
I'd like to know the cost of just the screws and stainless flashing. Labor to rip and install all the beveled treated strapping...yikes.
75-100 yr assembly with 500 yr exterior cladding. Pity the fool who buys that home a century from now and finds out it's a million to remove and replace the 500 yr cladding.
Perspective... I pity the fools currently buying newly built homes thinking they'll last more than 10 years without major renovations. Who cares what the cost of these screws are? They can clearly afford them. So can the person buying this house in 100 years. This channel is about building sturdy, robust, beautiful homes... May not be for you.
Screws were $15k and stainless is about $10k
Labor to rip I think ~$2000 if I recall correctly.
かなり重そうですね。
米国では、ガルバリウム鋼板の外壁は普及していないのでしょうか？
We haven’t used them before
its basically a european tiled roof :)
Seems a bit short sighted to only build it to last 75-100 years. My very average house in the UK is 96 years old, the brick walls will last another century with virtually no maintenance.
Out of context a bit, this will last significantly longer. And the home itself will certainly last hundreds of years should someone allow it to
Why siga and not zip? Seems like a lot more labor to do aheathing and siga.
Preference
@NSBuilders thank you for the reply. What strengths of this system makes you prefer vs the competition? I don't have a dog in the fight and certainly not criticizing. Just hoping to learn more about what leads you to prefer one vs the other.
sad they used pressure treated lumber. They use crap lumber to make, it is soft. Regular fir would be much better, there is no contact with the ground. The ventilation would ensure the lumber lasts centuries.
Both work.
This house has more insulation then all the houses in Australia combined 🤣
All new buildings should be designed with large roof overhangs. The large overhang provides beauty and protection from the sun, rain and wind.
Protection of the doors, windows and siding make for a more durable and comfortable home. Water is the enemy of buildings.
All homes should be built to accommodate the elderly and disabled. This will be better for everyone.
Large wide doorways and hallways make using a cane, walker or wheel chair much easier.
Bathrooms or wet rooms need to have flat floors and no shower hump or pan. A flat floor allows for easy access and drains need to provided.
Easy to use lever door and faucet handles are easier for the elderly to grip and open.
Main floors should include a master bedroom, restroom, shower, laundry and wide walk in closet with few steps to enter.
Homes should be designed with aging in place in mind.
New homes should come with solar panels, a rain water collection system and an electric vehicle charger in the garage.
We meet most of those requestes, so if interested let’s chat 😊
Man I wish I had money.
Amen
Why use heavy cladding for the rain screen? Our build was pretty much identical except we used timber composite for the screen. The embedded energy in those cladding shingles is off the chart, not to mentioned the added engineering and mass required to carry the load. Kind of a FU to the environment considering there are so many other eco-friendlier products available.
It annoys me when a great building system, like rainscreen + external insulation is marginalised by making it ridiculously expensive with useless features. Done right it is a cost effective system with fantastic benefits for everyone.
Rain screen design is fantastic just don't ruin it with a cladding which probably adds to cost of a normal home to the overall build for zero additional benefit......
Not everything HAS to be for the performance benefit. Sometimes beauty is the driving factor.
Interesting but looks over complicated and expensive
It’s costly. And just the right amount of complicated.
Sure, if you have $3 million+ to build a home. If you use Zip-R12 over 2x4 studs filled with closed cell foam, 1/4" plastic mesh rainscreen, and lap siding you'd have water/air tight walls at R-30+. Regular window and door jambs made for 2x6 construction will fit perfectly without bucks to extend them, as you'd need here for very thick walls. If you have the money, build it this way but 99% of people don't.
@@bobbray9666 Spray foam isn´t a healthy solution and turns your building into chemical waste. There are better options. Buy you are right, building this way is only nice for the contractor.
Oh yeah this is definitely $3m+ and this isn’t for 99%. But the education we share is to help those building ALL type of homes, especially when code changes and alot of the details will be required and we will experience a huge learning curve which means we will see a huge cost issue. Even on the 99% homes
ZIP R-sheathing makes your walls too much vapor closed which is a negaitve in a climate with cold winters (CZ-4 and above).
Most spray foams will start to crack over the years... so you can not count on their air tightness in the course of the years.
The poly iso of the ZIP R boards and spray foam insulate well in theory but not in practice due to the lack of thermal mass (inertia). Cellulose, wood fibers, cotton,... are better options.
Poly iso, spray foam, EPS, XPS ... do NOT insulate against sound (noise).
It would be nice to see what the actual price difference would between your wall proposal and a "better" one...
2x4 + ZIP R-12 + Closed cell spray foam vs 2x4 + plywood + SA WRB + 2" external TimberBoard (or Rockwool Comfortboard) + cellulose.
Don't look too much to the R-value of the walls... it's better to look at the thermal mass (inertia) as this give you better protection against cold nights and summertime heat.
lol the screws are meant to be on an angle, shows footage of them installing it wrong, nice
Oh man the TH-cam police are here.
Laughable. My pre WW2 home in northen Sweden has none of that fancy stuff and its in perfect condition. Too many modern engineers needing to justify their jobs with nonsense who don't really know what they are doing. That house looks like an over engineered joke.
What’s perfect condition mean? Building an enduring home is only part of the formula. Just because it’s more “engineered” that your home doesn’t make it better nor worse. It makes it different and perform different. Just like the drivetrain of a super car vs a Honda civic. Both do the “same” thing for different reasons.
I think it’s cool, definitely well thought out and well executed. But it’s very American. In other words, it’s filled with proprietary new tech that is neat, expensive, ridiculous, and temporary. In Europe they’ll just build that house out of concrete and stone. It will be cheaper and their great grandkids’ great grandkids can live in it.
Matt, I’m curious what you feel is proprietary tech, the installation and even the membranes are all used over in Europe. It’s true that in America you see more wood framing, but I’m not really seeing much more than that as a difference between here and Europe.
Imagine how demoralized you have to be to get excited about watching a person waste their wealth on personal luxury that you’ll never afford
Thanks for watching Bryan.
Sorry guys. I can think of a whole lot of better ways to over-engineer a building's exterior. Like the quality of your build, though.
“Over engineer” = better than code compliant
It's nice to see the American flag.
How about a fire like the LA. fires....take that down in 20 minutes...75 - 200 year build....let's get real
Sure. But this is in MA
In a wildfire it seems very fit to be turned into coal lol
How do you figure? The exterior is non-combustible. The cavity is protected from embers via the bug screen. The continuous mineral wool boards is rated as being a fire stop. The one detail that I would quibble with is that pressure treated furring is the wrong material. It should be should be plain lumber treated fire retarded after being beveled.
What Rich said. Plus this isn’t in a wildfire zone
This project is in a completely different tax bracket.
Accurate
building for the 1%. so cool. ill sheath my exterior for the price of the 10" SD's screws you used on that house. hipster building that only a few builders in each state would ever do, for 1 off customs.
Welp - you can build a Honda house or a Mercedes house.
Does anyone need to do a video on the typical as cheap as possible DR Horton track home build?
Continuous insulation outside the framing will save money in the long run esp if it's detailed correctly. It will so.e money up front as you don't need as much insulation in your stud cavities
Have you ever seen those gearheads that go to extraordinary lengths refurbishing cars with incredible details on their engines ("stuff that doesn't matter"). "Why on earth would you spend all that money putting chrome on your engine? It is just a car. No one will see the motor going down the road"
There is this thing called craftsmanship. It is a tiny sliver of the population. It is people who care and want to do things the right way.
For the other people, go buy a track home from DR Horton with cardboard sheathing, hacked framing, and built as cheaply as possible.
If you are going to spend money overbuilding something, why wouldn't it be something you occupy all the time?
In many parts of the country, exterior insulation is now becoming code minimum in certain climate types...it can be done cheaper than this particular design and build, 🤷🏾♂️
Also, just cause you want the absolute minimum in a house build does not mean that is the best way to build...
"Building to code" just means someone built the cheapest home they you could build and get away without being sued for ineptitude...
If you spend any time in cold climates in western Europe and observe how they are constructing buildings, you would see this exterior insulation and rain screen detail pretty frequently. Just because you might not see it in North America too often doesn't mean that there's not a good reason for doing it. Why not continue to up the game in residential construction here?
Americans and their paper homes...smh.
I can only imagine the gratitude from future generations of critters who find, or make, any possible way into the nice, big gap behind the cladding.
More rent money
@ 😆 Wouldn’t that be nice. That would go right along with PETA getting to take apex predators to court.
Expensive build ….. nice details though
Costly*
at that point it would make more sense to just frame another wall to hold up the cladding. anchored to the house solidly but sparsely. what kind of bank finances something like this?
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@@creylacoste4981 😂 who’s daddy?
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6:45 "can last 500 plus years..."
Blah blah blah
I'm so sick & tired of these builders & homeowners wannabes yapping about these 100, 200 now *500* year houses. What tosh.
Build a house normal people can live in & afford.
You just don't realize how you sound like some weasely teacher's pet looking for approval
Blah blah blah. I’m sick of people calling me a wannabe 😭🤣
Why do I need to build different houses? We’re building stuff that a small population wants. Not looking to solve the housing crisis
All that money only to have a wood lattice to hold up very heavy cladding. It’s a dumb way to build a home.
wait until those long verticals and horizontals warp from moisture and intense heat in the summer spring and fall
But it’s been done for 100s of years around the world… and still stands.
Kind of a silly comment. Rain screens done well are pretty smart. I get the advantages of lumber, though I personally don't want to use ANY wood (warping, termites, mold, fire, higher insurance, etc)... but I wouldn't call it dumb.
@@hos4800 You know that the rain screen lets air through to cool off and dry the siding, right?
@ you wouldn’t call it dumb but you also wouldn’t use lumbar. Pick a side.