As a non-Christian, I'm of the opinion that Nero needed a great deal of early therapy. The evidence stemming from his desire for grandeur, his artistic arrogance, and his almost child-like rages indicate to me the possibility that he was a very insecure man with access to enough power to inflict his own pain upon everyone else. If he were alive today he'd be stuck in an asylum until he could hug a bunny without throttling it.
In year 6 our teacher told us we could write an essay on any hobbies we had and most kids picked things like gymnastics but my only interest at the time was history, (still kinda is) so I decided to do it on Nero and Jesus Christ, when you look into it the stuff he did was disgusting but I do believe a lot of it had to do with his mother aggripinia the younger and I think he had childhood trauma. I was like 10 though so I’d have to look back into it 😅
Actually, many historians believe that a lot of the supposed "Wicked deeds" of Nero,Caligula and the like, were probably just rumors spread by their enemies. Nero, in particular, probably wasn't near as bad as is often stated.
You christards deserved it though. You have done nothing but suppress science and progress and oppress gay and trans people. As a bisexual man I deeply admire the Roman Empire and it’s just attempt to eliminate your barbarian faith like the cancer it is.
well yeah Nero did this stuff and worse to Christian’s which is awful and crazy when you think abt the fact he’s not even regarded the most crazy emperor
@TheGemgem154 Actually, they were holidays that pre-existed. At least, Christmas was. The first Christian Roman Emperor chose to put Christmas on the date it is now because there was already a Roman holiday there and he felt it would make the transition to Christianity easier for his citizens to accept. So yeah, we wouldn't have the holidays, but the dates were pretty much chosen according to whichever Roman holiday they matched best.
Well... you are right about Richard III. But the are schools of Roman history which suggest that some of the more disturbed actions of the Emps. were either falsley attributed to them or at least greatly exagerated. & as far as Nero being the worst person ever... You could certainly make a vallid claim. But, you gotta admitt that there is some pretty stiff competition for that spot!
Yeah this hilarious skit was actually very spot on the accurate Nero really had a fetish for torturing Christians using them as candles in his Royal garden. if you think that’s bad enough Christians weren’t the only ones persecuted Jews were often persecuted by the Romans to both these two religions at the time were seen as insults. The Romans so anybody who worshiped one god both Christians and Jews were seen as insults to their pagan ways. The name Nero got in persecuting Christians will always stick with him forever is still being debated whether or not in the book of revelations John describes the end of the world and warns of a beast with two horns some say he’s referring to Nero some say he’s referring to watching out for The son of Satan. Basically Nero was so evil to the Christians that he earned the nickname called the Antichrist and he is an Antichrist. This was probably one of the first persecutions of Christianity under the Roman empire they were perfect scapegoats especially when the fires of Rome happened and Nero though evidence shows that he did try to help his people he still went out of his way to build a palace for himself bigger stretching in the places where homes were lost. So he uses the Christians as a scapegoat and with all the sick twisted brutal executions and lavishing enjoyments he showed to the people of Rome. By then many Romans were disgusted by that behavior were actually feeling really bad for the Christian’s in the end.
@smartsingingurl finally someone who makes sense! but what bad things did christians do exactly? i havent read the bible and im only in grade 7 (at a non christian school :( ) so i dont know that much about it...
I honestly think we live in a better world than one where it's totally ok for heads of states to dip people in tar and light them on fire. Besides, these guys are in no way saying that this is alright, they're just relaying historical fact
@jualkyn unfortunately that's just how the Romans were, but that's why we learn history, so we remember the mistakes we've made in hope that we don't make them again (even if it is disturbing)
@BiGMANJOE32 Jesus demanded his followers to symbolically commit the act of cannibalism. However if you think he could have turned that bread into his body than they where committing an act of cannibalism. Both are horrific to me.
Ironically, while romans persecuted christians, the empire actually caused the rise of Christianity (Pax Romana). During the battle of Mulvian bridge, Constantine legalised christianity after he won the war when he took the Creitos banner to battle (looks like a cross with P).
It's disgusting what Nero did to the early Christians, but ironically it actually helped Christianity spread, people felt so bad for the Christians that they felt it was worth listening to what they had to say.
christards deserved it though. They have done nothing but suppress science and progress and oppress gay and trans people. As a bisexual man I deeply admire the Roman Empire and it’s just attempt to eliminate that barbarian faith like the cancer it is.
@@whinfpproductions94 Uh, first of all, why did you single out my comment (from eleven years ago, in fact) to rant about Christians? All I said was that it was cruel for Nero to do that, and it only made people more sympathetic to the Christians. Just because someone has a set of beliefs you don't agree with doesn't mean they deserve death. Also, the Roman Empire you admire so much was hardly a bastion of inclusivity and tolerance. Trans people (like Emperor Elagabalus) were seen as deviant and depraved. Women were treated as property. Minority groups and conquered peoples were oppressed and denied even basic rights. Slavery was rampant and a major part of the Roman economy. Social reformers like the Gracchi brothers were murdered for daring to suggest land redistribution. Also, lots and lots of imperialism. Maybe think twice about glorifying a culture that was rife with the things you claim to hate.
@@redbayly I’m sorry it’s just I’m a bisexual man who’s had struggles with religious homophobia and was watching this video to revel in my anger. And it’s a scary time for queer people and I was just wanting someone to blame, someone to shout at. I apologize. I’m really sorry. I was raised a Christian. And I only stopped being a Christian just recently when I learned about how homophobic the Bible actually is. I knew the Old Testament was and I thought all the homophobic passages in Paul were interpolations by later scribes. But then I learned of one explicitly homophobic passage about queer men not being able to inherit the kingdom of heaven. I found no evidence of it being an interpolation. So I angrily left the faith. I do like what Jesus said. Love thy neighbor, so onto others what you would want others would do onto you, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, I love all that. But the homophobia that’s inside the Bible I can’t look past. Greece and Rome were places where men-loving-men were accepted. And yes there were problems. But it was still better for me than even today. I know it’s selfish, but isn’t that human nature? And I think since Greco-Roman paganism didn’t really have a single central scripture that couldn’t be challenged like Christianity has the Bible, I think it would have progressed overtime without Christianity. I also have autism, ADHD, and Bipolar so I’m a little emotionally immature and prone to explosive outbursts. I’m really sorry. I don’t hate all Christians. Episcopalians and progressive Lutherans are cool. And I like Pope Francis and more progressive pro-LGBT Catholics. It’s the right-wing Evangelicals and TradCaths I was fantasizing about being made into candles or being put into lion’s dens. I’m prone to violent fantasies probably from being raised by an abusive single mother. They were originally directed towards her because I was powerless to stop her abuse. Then they became directed at anyone/anything that makes me angry/scared. I need to go to a therapist to work on it. I’m sorry that this is my venting. I apologize to you. And I apologize to the victims of Nero, wherever they are, for me disrespecting them.
@@whinfpproductions94 I can definitely see where you are coming from and why ancient Greece and Rome would be appealing to you. I am deeply sorry that you have had to go through so much pain in your life. It is perfectly natural to want to vent your frustrations, though it is definitely advisable to know whom you are venting to rather than springing it on random commenters on the internet. I admit, I was extremely shocked at the suddenness of it, though I do not hold it against you as I have done similar things in the past (I, myself, have ADHD and some problems with impulse control). I am pleased to know that you do not hate all Christians and that it was merely something said in an emotional moment. I am a Christian, myself, and, though I come from a fairly traditional upbringing, I cannot find it in my heart or my conscience to hate people for things like sexual orientation or gender identity or the like. I just don't feel like it is my place or my right to judge others like that. In all honesty, I think the fundamentalist radicals who go around screaming at people who fall short of their expectations for "Christian behavior" need to check their own life choices before making judgement calls on other people. Thank you for responding and giving me a clearer picture of things from your perspective. I truly wish you only happiness, safety, and peace in your life.
@WardenAssassin funny how that person is like that reminds me of that crazy extremist church that pretty much, not literally, says "your all going to hell, become christian"
Nah, Pol Pot is on the same rank and Kim Ill Sung of Saddam. Nero is eviler than Mao Zedong, Hiter and Stalin. I know the head count isn't the same but that number of people didn't even exist in Neros time.
Caligula is actually Neros uncle. Don't get me wrong I hate Caligula with a burning passion. I still say Nero was the worst human being who ever lived.
Why? Because he used early christians as candles rather than burning hundreds of thousands of witches/heretics/blasphemers/templars/whatever at the stake like the "noble christians" did in the Middle Ages? I think anything the Roman emperors did pales to insignificance when compared to the crimes of the Spanish inquisition and the Roman catholic church.
@BiGMANJOE32 While they were eating, he took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to them, and said, ‘Take; this is my body.’ 23Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, and all of them drank from it. 24He said to them, ‘This is my blood of the* covenant, which is poured out for many. 25Truly I tell you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.’ Mark 14-22
Yeah I know who I'll be comparing him to. Nero hunted down and killed both innocent Jews and Christians. Constantly murdered for his own pleasure and massacred his own city is a giant fire. Not even Hitler and Mao Zedong were half as bad as that.
@DazzieMetallikat You sounded quite intelligent before that comment on gay marriage. Why are you letting bigotry lead you around by the nose? Leviticus only speaks of homosexual activity in pagan temples, not churches.
right 2 things wrong with that sentence: 1, grammar... yours is shocking. 2, racism is the act of prejudice or discrimination against RACE not RELIGION.
it's a common misconception that white people's histoy would involve the romans. Romans are a latin people and not technically "white". The only people who are are people descended from anglo saxons (people with germanic blood). But realy noone should be made to feel guilt about something that was done so long ago that they had no control over.
@BiGMANJOE32 While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to the disciples, and said, ‘Take, eat; this is my body.’ 27Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, saying, ‘Drink from it, all of you; 28for this is my blood of the* covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26-26
I love how the dudes talking about cutting a mans head off but when it comes to candles he gets freaked out
(I know this is an old comment, but I just want to say this)
There's a difference between business in rome, and being mean and cruel in rome.
You like the candles, you should see the fireworks later...
As a non-Christian, I'm of the opinion that Nero needed a great deal of early therapy. The evidence stemming from his desire for grandeur, his artistic arrogance, and his almost child-like rages indicate to me the possibility that he was a very insecure man with access to enough power to inflict his own pain upon everyone else.
If he were alive today he'd be stuck in an asylum until he could hug a bunny without throttling it.
In year 6 our teacher told us we could write an essay on any hobbies we had and most kids picked things like gymnastics but my only interest at the time was history, (still kinda is) so I decided to do it on Nero and Jesus Christ, when you look into it the stuff he did was disgusting but I do believe a lot of it had to do with his mother aggripinia the younger and I think he had childhood trauma. I was like 10 though so I’d have to look back into it 😅
This really is a good series, it helps to remind people of the horrid treatment the Patricians inflicted on the Plebs.
the screams that the people are making are too funny! i know it shouldn't be but it is...lol
The screams are so hillariously fake that I just cant help cracking up with every "waah!" even as most of me is thoroughly revolted...
Actually, many historians believe that a lot of the supposed "Wicked deeds" of Nero,Caligula and the like, were probably just rumors spread by their enemies. Nero, in particular, probably wasn't near as bad as is often stated.
Actually as far as Caligula he really was that nuts.
Ben has the best expressions. qt.
man these romans were excessively crazy
The Spanish Inquisition was pretty tame compared to the secular courts of the age.
B R U H
This made Islamophobia in French politics tame in comparisoon
Thank you, you just reminded me of a phrase I was trying to remember yesterday.
I want to see the fireworks!!! Black humour, brilliant!
I love when it's funny the thing does AAAAAAAAAAAAAA😀😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅
Ben Willbond is soooo dreamy ...love him! :)
Reminding u abt this….
I am christian, and I dont get offended. Actully I REALLY laughed of this!!
You christards deserved it though. You have done nothing but suppress science and progress and oppress gay and trans people. As a bisexual man I deeply admire the Roman Empire and it’s just attempt to eliminate your barbarian faith like the cancer it is.
well yeah Nero did this stuff and worse to Christian’s which is awful and crazy when you think abt the fact he’s not even regarded the most crazy emperor
And the show pretty much does it to history as a hole, make people learn history though funny sketches and cathly songs.
Gunpowder wasn't invented yet....
First comment in 7 years. Just curious if anyone will see this lmao
We are still here, I come from the Bad Emperors Song
@TheGemgem154 Actually, they were holidays that pre-existed. At least, Christmas was. The first Christian Roman Emperor chose to put Christmas on the date it is now because there was already a Roman holiday there and he felt it would make the transition to Christianity easier for his citizens to accept. So yeah, we wouldn't have the holidays, but the dates were pretty much chosen according to whichever Roman holiday they matched best.
kids today enjoy the gory parts of history
I know I did
7 yrs ago I was 1. Bloody hell how times goes fast
this is sooo funny xD
I wouldn't worry about it too much. He being punished in full for every sin he's ever committed.
Nero disliked being portrayed as horrible
and it IS "Horrible" Histories for a reason.
get two birds stoned at once
Actually, Nero burning Xians is not considered to be historical.
To tell you the truth, I felt like his 3 descendent and Henry the VIII was way nicer than Nero
Well... you are right about Richard III. But the are schools of Roman history which suggest that some of the more disturbed actions of the Emps. were either falsley attributed to them or at least greatly exagerated.
& as far as Nero being the worst person ever... You could certainly make a vallid claim. But, you gotta admitt that there is some pretty stiff competition for that spot!
lol hilarious
my best teacher showed us this and all the other ones
Nothing like a good old christian burning !
Yeah this hilarious skit was actually very spot on the accurate Nero really had a fetish for torturing Christians using them as candles in his Royal garden. if you think that’s bad enough Christians weren’t the only ones persecuted Jews were often persecuted by the Romans to both these two religions at the time were seen as insults. The Romans so anybody who worshiped one god both Christians and Jews were seen as insults to their pagan ways. The name Nero got in persecuting Christians will always stick with him forever is still being debated whether or not in the book of revelations John describes the end of the world and warns of a beast with two horns some say he’s referring to Nero some say he’s referring to watching out for The son of Satan. Basically Nero was so evil to the Christians that he earned the nickname called the Antichrist and he is an Antichrist. This was probably one of the first persecutions of Christianity under the Roman empire they were perfect scapegoats especially when the fires of Rome happened and Nero though evidence shows that he did try to help his people he still went out of his way to build a palace for himself bigger stretching in the places where homes were lost. So he uses the Christians as a scapegoat and with all the sick twisted brutal executions and lavishing enjoyments he showed to the people of Rome. By then many Romans were disgusted by that behavior were actually feeling really bad for the Christian’s in the end.
Lol Nero was compensating for his tiny junk.
Yes.
it's called HORRIBLE Histories for a reason
hey, it encourages kids to learn
I wish we could do that now
Hehe... now that's a party.
I do agree, but the person didn't say anything about the acts in the middle ages, he or she just said Nero was messed up.
Nah thats Richard the Third. Nero actually was the worlds worst person who ever lived.
@nikki1988ish
haha, agree, but Jim Howick is cute too :D
@smartsingingurl finally someone who makes sense! but what bad things did christians do exactly? i havent read the bible and im only in grade 7 (at a non christian school :( ) so i dont know that much about it...
@KyleKragen I don't think so if their wailing.
Nero : Voila Christian candle.
I honestly think we live in a better world than one where it's totally ok for heads of states to dip people in tar and light them on fire. Besides, these guys are in no way saying that this is alright, they're just relaying historical fact
@RenGader Gun powder isnt needed to light things on fire, how do u think pre-historic people lived?
Perfect example of Dark Humor
Coming from a devout Christian
@jualkyn unfortunately that's just how the Romans were, but that's why we learn history, so we remember the mistakes we've made in hope that we don't make them again (even if it is disturbing)
It was kind of based tho
@Casparrowrox
I mean about the fireworks.
"Shaped like Christians" I love how this implies Christian have a certain body shape that can easily be identified xD
@BiGMANJOE32 Jesus demanded his followers to symbolically commit the act of cannibalism. However if you think he could have turned that bread into his body than they where committing an act of cannibalism. Both are horrific to me.
Waaaahhh!
You should see the fireworks later
Ironically, while romans persecuted christians, the empire actually caused the rise of Christianity (Pax Romana). During the battle of Mulvian bridge, Constantine legalised christianity after he won the war when he took the Creitos banner to battle (looks like a cross with P).
0:39 1:01 1:11 1:23 1:37 1:43
@TripleThreat625 The guy in white who doesnt agree with the roman candles :)
Sorry mate, it was my brother who said that. I have no idea what he was talking about.
I'd say this is fucking right.
It's disgusting what Nero did to the early Christians, but ironically it actually helped Christianity spread, people felt so bad for the Christians that they felt it was worth listening to what they had to say.
christards deserved it though. They have done nothing but suppress science and progress and oppress gay and trans people. As a bisexual man I deeply admire the Roman Empire and it’s just attempt to eliminate that barbarian faith like the cancer it is.
@@whinfpproductions94 Uh, first of all, why did you single out my comment (from eleven years ago, in fact) to rant about Christians? All I said was that it was cruel for Nero to do that, and it only made people more sympathetic to the Christians. Just because someone has a set of beliefs you don't agree with doesn't mean they deserve death.
Also, the Roman Empire you admire so much was hardly a bastion of inclusivity and tolerance. Trans people (like Emperor Elagabalus) were seen as deviant and depraved. Women were treated as property. Minority groups and conquered peoples were oppressed and denied even basic rights. Slavery was rampant and a major part of the Roman economy. Social reformers like the Gracchi brothers were murdered for daring to suggest land redistribution. Also, lots and lots of imperialism. Maybe think twice about glorifying a culture that was rife with the things you claim to hate.
@@redbayly I’m sorry it’s just I’m a bisexual man who’s had struggles with religious homophobia and was watching this video to revel in my anger. And it’s a scary time for queer people and I was just wanting someone to blame, someone to shout at. I apologize. I’m really sorry. I was raised a Christian. And I only stopped being a Christian just recently when I learned about how homophobic the Bible actually is. I knew the Old Testament was and I thought all the homophobic passages in Paul were interpolations by later scribes.
But then I learned of one explicitly homophobic passage about queer men not being able to inherit the kingdom of heaven. I found no evidence of it being an interpolation. So I angrily left the faith. I do like what Jesus said. Love thy neighbor, so onto others what you would want others would do onto you, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, I love all that. But the homophobia that’s inside the Bible I can’t look past.
Greece and Rome were places where men-loving-men were accepted. And yes there were problems. But it was still better for me than even today. I know it’s selfish, but isn’t that human nature? And I think since Greco-Roman paganism didn’t really have a single central scripture that couldn’t be challenged like Christianity has the Bible, I think it would have progressed overtime without Christianity. I also have autism, ADHD, and Bipolar so I’m a little emotionally immature and prone to explosive outbursts.
I’m really sorry. I don’t hate all Christians. Episcopalians and progressive Lutherans are cool. And I like Pope Francis and more progressive pro-LGBT Catholics. It’s the right-wing Evangelicals and TradCaths I was fantasizing about being made into candles or being put into lion’s dens. I’m prone to violent fantasies probably from being raised by an abusive single mother. They were originally directed towards her because I was powerless to stop her abuse. Then they became directed at anyone/anything that makes me angry/scared. I need to go to a therapist to work on it. I’m sorry that this is my venting. I apologize to you. And I apologize to the victims of Nero, wherever they are, for me disrespecting them.
@@whinfpproductions94 I can definitely see where you are coming from and why ancient Greece and Rome would be appealing to you. I am deeply sorry that you have had to go through so much pain in your life. It is perfectly natural to want to vent your frustrations, though it is definitely advisable to know whom you are venting to rather than springing it on random commenters on the internet. I admit, I was extremely shocked at the suddenness of it, though I do not hold it against you as I have done similar things in the past (I, myself, have ADHD and some problems with impulse control).
I am pleased to know that you do not hate all Christians and that it was merely something said in an emotional moment. I am a Christian, myself, and, though I come from a fairly traditional upbringing, I cannot find it in my heart or my conscience to hate people for things like sexual orientation or gender identity or the like. I just don't feel like it is my place or my right to judge others like that. In all honesty, I think the fundamentalist radicals who go around screaming at people who fall short of their expectations for "Christian behavior" need to check their own life choices before making judgement calls on other people.
Thank you for responding and giving me a clearer picture of things from your perspective. I truly wish you only happiness, safety, and peace in your life.
@WardenAssassin funny how that person is like that
reminds me of that crazy extremist church that pretty much, not literally, says "your all going to hell, become christian"
Nah, Pol Pot is on the same rank and Kim Ill Sung of Saddam. Nero is eviler than Mao Zedong, Hiter and Stalin. I know the head count isn't the same but that number of people didn't even exist in Neros time.
i hate be a chritian in those days
You should really not say that to a person, even if a person is sinning(which we all do.) It's really a horrible thing to say.
so nero kept faith to the original polytheism of rome/greece?
to the ancient world that is good
to the modern world i need a smart ass/arse answer....
@RenGader Oh, apologies, ha, true that
Caligula is actually Neros uncle. Don't get me wrong I hate Caligula with a burning passion. I still say Nero was the worst human being who ever lived.
I had never seen that one!!! Crazy people...
"that candle's just gone out, we need another christian x'D"
What is Eucharist about?
It is not about consuming the BODY and BLOOD of Jesus to become more like him?
Why? Because he used early christians as candles rather than burning hundreds of thousands of witches/heretics/blasphemers/templars/whatever at the stake like the "noble christians" did in the Middle Ages?
I think anything the Roman emperors did pales to insignificance when compared to the crimes of the Spanish inquisition and the Roman catholic church.
@LongLiveAndros ?
@BiGMANJOE32 Did Jesus not have anything to do with the Catholic religion, then?
No, thunk that was for the gag...
Cool story.(I'm a Christian as well, but you comment is a bit random XD)
@BiGMANJOE32 While they were eating, he took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to them, and said, ‘Take; this is my body.’ 23Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, and all of them drank from it. 24He said to them, ‘This is my blood of the* covenant, which is poured out for many. 25Truly I tell you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.’ Mark 14-22
What do they mean "shaped like Christians?" Are Christians a different shape to Ancient Romans?
Wait'll they get around to the crusades, the christians get to be horrible too. Babyque anyone?
@nikki1988ish I love him too *.*
I cant decide between Matt and Ben
The pope runs the Roman Catholic Church based off the roman empire
Which became Christian in its final years.
......This probably was propaganda. Nero was rather a pretty average emperor.
You get to lighten up your garden and torture Christians at the same time!
x'D
@JudyFox11234 Definately Ben :)
/watch?v=qdGkTdv4Dt4
1:31 - 1:45
2:45 - 2:53
3:30 - 3:38
Yeah I know who I'll be comparing him to. Nero hunted down and killed both innocent Jews and Christians. Constantly murdered for his own pleasure and massacred his own city is a giant fire. Not even Hitler and Mao Zedong were half as bad as that.
@DazzieMetallikat You sounded quite intelligent before that comment on gay marriage. Why are you letting bigotry lead you around by the nose? Leviticus only speaks of homosexual activity in pagan temples, not churches.
right 2 things wrong with that sentence: 1, grammar... yours is shocking. 2, racism is the act of prejudice or discrimination against RACE not RELIGION.
1 person is a christians
I'm christian and I thought this is kinda funny. The kinda being in reference to the horrible means of death, which was not funny (for clarification).
it's a common misconception that white people's histoy would involve the romans. Romans are a latin people and not technically "white". The only people who are are people descended from anglo saxons (people with germanic blood). But realy noone should be made to feel guilt about something that was done so long ago that they had no control over.
No just roman Catholic big difference
@LongLiveAndros oh right i thought you were spamming ;)
i say mat ;)
@MrButerfinger JESUS DID NOT TELL HIS FOLLOWERS TO BE CANNIBALS THAT WAS THE CATHOLIC RELIGION GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
@BiGMANJOE32 While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to the disciples, and said, ‘Take, eat; this is my body.’ 27Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, saying, ‘Drink from it, all of you; 28for this is my blood of the* covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26-26
@MultiBelle22 its a joke >_>
@jelly434 so you think christians being tortured is funny? im just sayin....
O-O
Why pick on the Christians if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have Easter or Christmas