We can always agree or disagree on certain topics, but at least you're always honest, which is very respectable. Thank you, Mr. Kramnik, keep up the work, we need you💪💪
Chess commentary itself has become misleading. It has been dumbed down to reach the general masses. A smothered mate is commented upon as if it is some 2500 level tactic. Gone are the days where you could listen to commentary and actually improve chess. These days ordinary moves are turned into !! and the end result is you end up thinking you are becoming smarter when you are not. Commentary is aimed at keeping you engaged and dumb
Absolutely clueless. Typical aristocrat/elitist thinking. Go back to smoke your pipe and moan about how stupid people are and how smart you are. Cheers.
That's what happens to everything when it becomes popular. Chess has experienced a huge wave of popularity in recent years. The onset of mass popularity means the average playing level is lower, and the commentary (and everything) is tailored to that level. Hawks jump in trying to make money off the wave of popularity, and sensationalize everything and use emotional manipulation to get people more engaged, which all comes as a slap in the face of professionals (who aren't sellouts)
I don't know what your level is, I am around 2200 and I find that listening to 2700 players, what they find important and what they ignore, is very educational. I used to regard what they did as magic, now I think I understand much of it. At least now I can try. I can't calculate like a GM (that is the main skill, I am convinced) but it even helps my calculation. I never had that growing up. We never even had a NM in town. It was a big deal when an Expert joined our club. There are some channels for the weaker players, but usually there's one for the stronger ones that is more technical and less beginner-friendly. If they pair Peter Leko with another GM, or anything with Judit Polgar because if the other person is clueless she doesn't defer but just goes ahead, always very good.
If you want to grow a game nowadays you want general casual viewers, if you only want to do this for high level players then you will have a niche community and you will also get niech sponsorship and there will be less money and one day players will leave the game for lack of money... Making money in chess is already very hard that's why you want to attract lots more casual players and viewers, because the more views the more money it will bring in the game.. and more money means there will be more people who will want to pursue thare career in chass that will ultimately benefits chess...
@@robinhoodwinker8621 well professionals should be happy cause this new wave of popularity is the only reason, prize fund is going up in top tournaments.
I totally agree with Kramnik. And also we need to have in mind that some of those popular chess channels mentioned have a specific target, they are on the surface chess content, but in reality they are just entertainment that is created to feed a specific target group.
Sir, it would be fun if you could do a series discussing your world championships especially ones with kasparov and Anand. Would love to see not just the games but also stories/inside views/mind games related to that
Hello Sir, A huge fan here not just of your Chess pedigree but also of your current position and takes in the chess world. While I agree with most of your analysis of the games of this championship match, I have a suggestion. I think alongwith your criticisms you should also praise the odd good move played by either player which would not only be fairer but also make people believe the authenticity pf your reviews, unless of course, if indeed they haven't actually played a single praiseworthy move so far which is hard to believe but would love to know about it from you.
I will try, though there were not many exeptionally good moves so far,because to praise WC challengers for just a normal good move is little strange I think :) But will pay attention to it, you are right
Honestly is the best policy. Thank you Mr Kramnik for telling us the truth about the quality of games with no boring compliment as majority of commentators did .
His perspective as a world champion is certainly very interesting. I dislike his conduct towards other players in regard to online cheating but these recaps are quite excellent.
Mr Kramnik, given that Ding on many games took over 40 minutes for a move very early in the game and came under massive time pressure, how much of Gukesh's moves were aimed at creating a dilemma and make Ding spend even more time on the clock, as opposed to making the best possible move and making it straightforward to find the best response ? Hikaru has mentioned in many videos that Gukesh doesn't evaluate the position objectively and seems to be too optimistic about the position even when he is worse... Based on post game interviews. Magnus has also said in one of his videos that this young generation of Indian players don't understand chess and they heavily rely on calculations... And he added that is why they don't do well in rapid and blitz... Because they don't have intuition
@@VBKramnik So Ramesh dont teach his kids positional play and only forces them to solve his difficult calculations books? His coaching methods worked those kids without chess understanding is olympiad champions
@@shadowfighter298Anand's chess academy didn't teach them chess from the beginning. By the time the kids joined Anand's academy, they were already grandmasters over 2600 although they were only 14 years old. Anand only helped them improve their game in certain positions where they had problems. You can't ask a 2600 player to forget everything they do and start from the basics.
@@kartz2010 gukesh is the only current era indian GM whose game is extremely reliant on calculation. Praga and Arjun, especially Arjun have a totally different playing style then him. Arjun relies on intuition more then calculation, thats why you see him pushing in even slightly worse position.
With all due respect, sir, please do not underestimate the capabilities of amateurs. We too are able to recognize many of the moves made by Gukesh and Ding, not just players with an Elo rating over 2600. During the World Championship matches between Kramnik and Kasparov, Anand and Kramnik, as well as Carlsen and Anand, it was not easy for the spectators to anticipate the moves in advance. For those games exhibited an extraordinarily high level of play. Yet in the match between Gukesh and Ding, we observe moves that even amateurs could have found better in every game, while the reigning World Champion and Challenger chose inferior moves. Now a question remains: Why do these games invariably end in a draw? Neither of the two players managed to seize the opportunity to win the 7th or 8th game. This strikes me as rather peculiar. Allow me, esteemed Mr. Kramnik, to express my sincere gratitude for your unwavering commitment to the sport of chess and the chess community.
This wcc match is embarrassing for the chess. I get that fide must be happy when indian player is competing ws chinese player, given the sheer number of fans from those countries. But a teenager vs psychologically broken manchild is the best we get. Its hard to be follow this spectacle.
Alright, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, Mr. Borissowitch? That you would play a much higher-quality game in their position? That back in your time, you would have beaten a Gukesh or Ding Liren? Most of us are already aware of that. But take a look at what back in 2021 Nepomniachtchi played against Magnus.
@@VBKramnikThis is what we want nowadays from a true chess champion: 1) Create another generic chess app. 2) Do commentary with a celebrity IM. Make believe their nonsense is profound. 3) Sell the app to Danny in 1-2 years. 4) Repeat from #1.
After seeing Magnus trying to argue Gukesh declining the repetition today was some kind of genius psychological move, when the player himself admitted it was based on a misevaluation of the position, I'm starting to think you're the only voice of reason left commentating on the match.
In some previous recaps he bashed ding hard for not pressing a small edge. He got jumped on by many comments saying he should shut up since he quit. Many indians questioned his chances vs gukesh, saying gukesh would destroy magnus. Maybe he learned from that.
@@CyanGM At least your quotation is correct. How you interpreted that to be a "some kind of genius psychological move" is beyond me. Talk about cherry picking quotes and then putting your own spin on it. Absolutely clueless. Listen to the whole segment again, and see if you make the same interpretation. I can almost guarantee you will not. Cheers.
26-h4 IS not a human move ;i'm sorry but you are acting here like other commentators you were citing.with all respect a grandmaster here should analyse Ra6 or Ra5 Btw Ra6 IS very intresting and was dismissed by most simply beecause the engine put it behind due to an outstanding defense
I must admit Nepo's highlights are brilliant, he explains the tactics and all sorts of lines without an engine based on general positional understanding. Thank you mr Kramnik, it's a pleasure watching you again
Hello Mr Kramnik, i really like your videos, however i feel that no one is saying that the guys are playing super chess, you are not the only telling the truth that the level of this WC is a bit substandard... Keep up the good work...
Extraordinary analysis 👍 This is what is missing , an over the board expert Human insights, when commentators mentioned Re1 amazing I did not understand, why amazing? When they praised f6 again , why it is great move ? Black is actually very short of moves and using elimination method can either play Rd5 , f6 or Ng5 what else why f6 is great ?? Finally when I watch the Chessbase India channel OMG this is becoming entertainment and sometimes DANCING !! 🤣🤣
I think you are correct in your criticism. Analysis of the games should be more objective. It feels like the big names don't want to come out too hard on other players sometimes. Like you say, Magnus is much much more forgiving than he would be if analysing his own games. Same with Hikaru. Hikaru points out mistakes of course but always "you can't blame the player for making it". But he also criticized hard things like Dings time usage. Saying it is totally unforgivable at times basically. On the other hand this is the instant online era. Whatever they say will be read by the players themselves and might affect the psyche or outcome even of the games. Something to keep in mind and for that reason I see why they want to not be too harsh in criticism.
Aside from Magnus, I really believe there are 10+ players in the world who can beat either of these players in a WC match. The WC is no longer a match between the two best chess players in the world- it’s just a sideshow really. There are too many great players and too much parity in chess now for the world championship to be decided like this.
It's a bit weird to accuse average club players of not wanting to be told the truth. In all honesty, let me tell you that 97% of what you analyzed in this video went completely over my 1700 rated head. Your criticism may be relevant for grandmasters, but for average guys it's - sorry! - completely irrelevant. And mistakes are what makes the game interesting. Maybe not for a 2800 player like yourself, but definitely for us mere mortals.
Lot of people do appreciate your honesty. And lot of us couldn't tell from the surface that level is lot lower. Btw. Any new Danya videos coming ? You said you had more material on him. I do think you have possibly been wrong on some players but Danya is very clearly a cheater, if one opens eyes. Do you have any opinion on why he is not again in blitz and rapid tournament at the end of the year ?. I thought he said before he would be, but I guess again not there ? Has he ever proven to be among one of the best OTB ? Online he is among the best, winning titled tuesdays etc. There is not another one like him. And he says he gets nervous OTB yet he is commentating everywhere and no nerves is seen. Seems to be able to function with other humans around. Doesn't really make sense. * Danya played Fabi once this year and he was very eager to tell Fabi how intimidating it was to play him OTB so it was only natural for him to lose. Even that is weird that hr felt he needed to give excuses for the loss. Fabi has accepted as reality that Danya is tough for him even with 3/2. But one gets impression this idea is based on internet play.
Kramnik is talking as if he played all his WC matches at 3500 elo and all his matches were great matches . Let's analyze his games and see the accuracy rates
Ur seeing computer lines and saying level is bad I bet if u had this position without any evaluation u would've said its a high accuracy game. Ur being deluded by the computers
Thanks for your comments, Mr Kramnik! That's very interesting. I believe that every person is free to have any opinion about anything. So I do not understand why some players/people were bulling you for having your opinion. This is your opinion and point. Personally I agree with you and I am not alone! Support to you, Mr Kramnik❤
Thank you very much for your honest analysis. Even though I don‘t agree with everything (okay, I am 2400, you are a former world champion) there is nothing I appreciate more than honesty and looking at things in a rational way.
У резкого роста популярности шахмат в последние годы есть выраженный негативный внешний эффект. Из-за погони за развлекательным контентом, продвижения некорректных дебютов/гамбитов и быстрых контролей на второй план уходит желание думать самостоятельно и развиваться. Все больше смотрят на секунды на часах или оценку движка. Эта парадигма неизбежно прививается молодым и перспективным игрокам, которые серьёзно занимаются шахматами. Поэтому весьма вероятно, что будущие матчи за мировую корону по качеству игры будут не лучше, а то и хуже нынешнего.
Я не пониманию к примеру, какой смысл учить дебюты до какогонибудь 20 хода, слышал на ютубе, что есть шахматисты которык этим занимаются. То есть, работает запоминалка, но не сам шахматист. Ничего плохого нет, посмотреть прошлую партию и ее ошибки, программа облегчает жизнь шахматисту, но мне к примеру многое непонятно после отчета с ошибками, бывает неправильная композиция фигур в дебюте, компьютер не выдает ошибки, но как снежный ком потом дорастает до ошибок, когда фигуры стоят не там где надо. все-таки программа не заменит тренера
@АлексейПоршаков, играя на онлайн платформе с оппонентом, порой заходил смотреть рейтинг и количество партий, так есть такие, у которые аккаунту 2 месяца, а игр более 5 тысяч, может даже больше цифры не помню, но по сравнению с моим которому к примеру год, партий в разы меньше, млжно сделать вывод, либо это человек, который очень любит шахматы, либо он ходит так на работу. Хотя сейчас даже думаю, что это и не человеки вовсе. Искуственный интеллект сейчас навязывает везде, даже где не надо Я про выраженный негаьивный эффект. Хотя гдето да, балбесов много, которые блогеров пересмотрели
Sir, you have presented your view point very well but you have the luxury of ending a sentence with - the position is not very clear and move on. On the board , it seems , the players are misjudging if they are in advantage of +1 or so as compared to the engine analysis. Do you think that with modern engine prep players do not get that many concrete lines to analyse?
You pointed out violations of standard strategical ideas, and you were right that they computer didn't like them either. The most charitable hypothesis is that these pure calculators, who did not grow up with such strong "Russian School" training, bring another strength to the board, whether it's calculation or the new strategical ideas we learn from Alpha Zero. These players were not given their positions, they got there the hard way, like any WC or challenger. I heard that according to some computer, the accuracy level is higher than in older WC matches. So I think the picture is not as clear as presented, even though I believe Kramnik is sincere. (1) The acceptable moves that he didn't spend so much time on, were better than other moves he also would have deemed acceptable if they had worked. There are some new principles or habits that we did not know when Kramnik was growing up. Being much weaker, I still don't know them, but there's something these players are doing more right than previous generations. (2) And this point is supported by the "cheating" nature of this video, no of course Kramnik didn't cheat, but he used the computer and his old "no cheating" game videos did not. And so he can see the evaluation before assigning criticism. The psychological impact of this is unknown to us but also to Kramnik himself. Thank you VB for this video, it's a good one, just want to add my perspective as above.
talk to people at their level of understanding. keep the technical commentaries for your GM friends and leave the crowd enjoying fast food chess alone. thank you! with your mentality chess would have gone broke a long time ago. think bigger vladimir, think bigger! more seriously both are needed! and it is nice that you share with us the truth! keep telling us the truth but realize that chess needs money and you won't get people's money if they re bored. and sadly most people are dumb...you should be thankful for this because otherwise it would have been much harder for you to become world champion in the first place!
you should make a video exposing danya for lying to all chess fans while he is commentating the game and saying it is very interesting game and they both play well when it’s just manipulation
@JustusPaul1 he did this in past but now chess has evolved so he can't Messer everything in his past standards and we also can't except players to play like stockfish, cause stockfish is 3600 elo it's like comparing Carlson with a random IM OR GM so it doesn't make sense and they are human so they will make many mistakes...
Ding is in bad form, far from his peak, playing at 2680 for past 12month. Gukesh is tied with ding. You can't possibly think these two are playing the best chess in human history💀 You can get statistics to show anything you want if you define your metrics, sampling, and engine depth differently. If you play a 1000, you get 96% easy. If you play a 3600, you can't get anything above 80%. Is the game between you and the 1000 better?
Hello Mr Kramnik, I appreciate your intellectual honesty in telling your opinions exactly as you see it. But I also watch game reviews by Magnus on his "take take take" channel and by Hikaru, and although they too point out the mistakes, they don't see that so negatively to the extent of stopping the analysis of the games. Of course you don't use computer analysis, but both Hikaru and Magnus have pointed out the top computer move in some positions which they say is counter intuitive from a human perspective... I don't know if established chess theory has changed dramatically after powerful engines are used in match preparation. Even Kasparov mentioned in one youtube video that he had a notebook of analysis that he used for the world championship match and when he checked those lines against the engine, the engine said all his preparation was garbage... I know how bad it feels for him when he lived in an era without computers.
It is just they appreciate likes more than truth, sorry When both pretend Qg5 in game 6 is not easy to spot, everything is clear to me, because they KNOW chess compared to many others
@@VBKramnikI'm just an amateur trying to make sense of what top grandmasters say and it always baffles me when they say completely different things. Anyway thanks for your clarification!
@@kartz2010This has always been the case, though. There are many games throughout history that have been analyzed by multiple strong players, and they oftentimes held completely opposing views!
Could be so, yet you won't find rollercoasters where the needle swung from +2 to -2. to peter out in a draw. That you won't see in the Karpov-Kasparov matches either.
@ethanguo4219 there is not that big difference as you claim between my stockfish 14 on cell phone, and stockfish sesse. Even if there was such a position it would be very very rare.
Владимир Борисович, как Вы считаете, с чем может быть связано такое изменение в уровне игры шахматиста? Объективно на Турнире претендентов и на Олимпиаде Гукеш выступал достаточно уверено и это были несколько другие шахматы. На чемпионате же его игра не настолько убедительна 🤔
It would be nice to have answers, have a clear view in black and white but unfortunately its all a big fog of gray. Not just in chess but all else as well we probably will never get the truth and just have to decide whats the best way to live with that. I admire all who seek the truth, hopefully one day you will find it.
I appreciate the commentary, i much prefer the truth over the lies. I have maintained that this wasn't a world championship match to begin with since magnus isn't playing, but this is even worse than i thought
Hi. I have some really interesting things to talk about with you, like potential cheating and the issue with Ding performance in WCC. I will show you the evidences as well to support my claims. Let me know if you are interested. I think you will find it really valuable and i will really appreciate your time. Thank you.
@@MaxSujyPOLYou're having some trouble understanding past games and the current. Ding Liren pre-pandemic was a beast compared to later on, which is just a fact. Same with Gukesh compared just a couple of months ago. Forms fluctuate a lot.
I guess you would agree with Garry who said, he doesn't consider this as world Chess Championship as it doesn't decide who best player in the world is But it's a Fide Tournament
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Damn, I can't stop laughing. Imagine Kramnik commentating live! Would be bonkers.
It's nice to hear real opinions. It's why I took an interest in chess the past few years. Thanks for your work.
I stopped my movie for this
I'm watching on the toilet
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I stopped another Vladimir's video for this
@@javierarencibia4082 Maybe because you like to spend your time there.
Great point of view. I myself want the truth, thank you for that
We can always agree or disagree on certain topics, but at least you're always honest, which is very respectable. Thank you, Mr. Kramnik, keep up the work, we need you💪💪
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Chess commentary itself has become misleading. It has been dumbed down to reach the general masses. A smothered mate is commented upon as if it is some 2500 level tactic. Gone are the days where you could listen to commentary and actually improve chess. These days ordinary moves are turned into !! and the end result is you end up thinking you are becoming smarter when you are not. Commentary is aimed at keeping you engaged and dumb
Absolutely clueless. Typical aristocrat/elitist thinking. Go back to smoke your pipe and moan about how stupid people are and how smart you are. Cheers.
That's what happens to everything when it becomes popular. Chess has experienced a huge wave of popularity in recent years. The onset of mass popularity means the average playing level is lower, and the commentary (and everything) is tailored to that level. Hawks jump in trying to make money off the wave of popularity, and sensationalize everything and use emotional manipulation to get people more engaged, which all comes as a slap in the face of professionals (who aren't sellouts)
I don't know what your level is, I am around 2200 and I find that listening to 2700 players, what they find important and what they ignore, is very educational. I used to regard what they did as magic, now I think I understand much of it. At least now I can try. I can't calculate like a GM (that is the main skill, I am convinced) but it even helps my calculation. I never had that growing up. We never even had a NM in town. It was a big deal when an Expert joined our club. There are some channels for the weaker players, but usually there's one for the stronger ones that is more technical and less beginner-friendly. If they pair Peter Leko with another GM, or anything with Judit Polgar because if the other person is clueless she doesn't defer but just goes ahead, always very good.
If you want to grow a game nowadays you want general casual viewers, if you only want to do this for high level players then you will have a niche community and you will also get niech sponsorship and there will be less money and one day players will leave the game for lack of money... Making money in chess is already very hard that's why you want to attract lots more casual players and viewers, because the more views the more money it will bring in the game.. and more money means there will be more people who will want to pursue thare career in chass that will ultimately benefits chess...
@@robinhoodwinker8621 well professionals should be happy cause this new wave of popularity is the only reason, prize fund is going up in top tournaments.
Gukesh, a humble, respectful 18-year-old boy with a competitive gene, candidate winner, Olympiad winner, and world champion 👑🇮🇳.
I totally agree with Kramnik. And also we need to have in mind that some of those popular chess channels mentioned have a specific target, they are on the surface chess content, but in reality they are just entertainment that is created to feed a specific target group.
Thank you Vladimir for being honest in a times when chess community isn't.
Sir, it would be fun if you could do a series discussing your world championships especially ones with kasparov and Anand. Would love to see not just the games but also stories/inside views/mind games related to that
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Hello Sir, A huge fan here not just of your Chess pedigree but also of your current position and takes in the chess world. While I agree with most of your analysis of the games of this championship match, I have a suggestion. I think alongwith your criticisms you should also praise the odd good move played by either player which would not only be fairer but also make people believe the authenticity pf your reviews, unless of course, if indeed they haven't actually played a single praiseworthy move so far which is hard to believe but would love to know about it from you.
I will try, though there were not many exeptionally good moves so far,because to praise WC challengers for just a normal good move is little strange I think :)
But will pay attention to it, you are right
Always love kramnik's take. Very honest opinion, good logic & humor
Honestly is the best policy. Thank you Mr Kramnik for telling us the truth about the quality of games with no boring compliment as majority of commentators did .
Hello Vladimir...
Love your Channel
Watching from Australia!🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thank you Mr. Kramnik for the upload. Keep up the good fight for our beautiful game, Chess!
I go from not liking Kramnik to liking him. He has a unique perspective that is both entertaining and makes you think.
Yeah when he's not overly fixated on Danya his videos are peak.
His perspective as a world champion is certainly very interesting. I dislike his conduct towards other players in regard to online cheating but these recaps are quite excellent.
Mr Kramnik, given that Ding on many games took over 40 minutes for a move very early in the game and came under massive time pressure, how much of Gukesh's moves were aimed at creating a dilemma and make Ding spend even more time on the clock, as opposed to making the best possible move and making it straightforward to find the best response ? Hikaru has mentioned in many videos that Gukesh doesn't evaluate the position objectively and seems to be too optimistic about the position even when he is worse... Based on post game interviews. Magnus has also said in one of his videos that this young generation of Indian players don't understand chess and they heavily rely on calculations... And he added that is why they don't do well in rapid and blitz... Because they don't have intuition
I would agree with Magnus here
@@VBKramnik So Ramesh dont teach his kids positional play and only forces them to solve his difficult calculations books? His coaching methods worked those kids without chess understanding is olympiad champions
We will win next Olympiad too
@@shadowfighter298Anand's chess academy didn't teach them chess from the beginning. By the time the kids joined Anand's academy, they were already grandmasters over 2600 although they were only 14 years old. Anand only helped them improve their game in certain positions where they had problems. You can't ask a 2600 player to forget everything they do and start from the basics.
@@kartz2010 gukesh is the only current era indian GM whose game is extremely reliant on calculation. Praga and Arjun, especially Arjun have a totally different playing style then him. Arjun relies on intuition more then calculation, thats why you see him pushing in even slightly worse position.
Real vintage champion
Anand , Kasparov karpov , kramnik are only genuine experts who's commentary should be trusted
With all due respect, sir, please do not underestimate the capabilities of amateurs. We too are able to recognize many of the moves made by Gukesh and Ding, not just players with an Elo rating over 2600. During the World Championship matches between Kramnik and Kasparov, Anand and Kramnik, as well as Carlsen and Anand, it was not easy for the spectators to anticipate the moves in advance. For those games exhibited an extraordinarily high level of play. Yet in the match between Gukesh and Ding, we observe moves that even amateurs could have found better in every game, while the reigning World Champion and Challenger chose inferior moves. Now a question remains: Why do these games invariably end in a draw? Neither of the two players managed to seize the opportunity to win the 7th or 8th game. This strikes me as rather peculiar. Allow me, esteemed Mr. Kramnik, to express my sincere gratitude for your unwavering commitment to the sport of chess and the chess community.
To me black queen on b1 surrounded by a majority of white pieces is just asking for trouble haha. It looks like some kind of "trap the queen" puzzle.
Truth comes first in chess, next feelings
Thanks for the video from india 👍
Fantastic analysis - getting straight to the truth.
You are right love from india😇
I love the honesty
This is the only guy whose analysis can be more critical than Magnus's at times
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This wcc match is embarrassing for the chess. I get that fide must be happy when indian player is competing ws chinese player, given the sheer number of fans from those countries. But a teenager vs psychologically broken manchild is the best we get. Its hard to be follow this spectacle.
Alright, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, Mr. Borissowitch? That you would play a much higher-quality game in their position? That back in your time, you would have beaten a Gukesh or Ding Liren? Most of us are already aware of that. But take a look at what back in 2021 Nepomniachtchi played against Magnus.
Just telling the truth in contrary to nonsense of others, being honest, what do you want from me?
@@VBKramnikThis is what we want nowadays from a true chess champion:
1) Create another generic chess app.
2) Do commentary with a celebrity IM. Make believe their nonsense is profound.
3) Sell the app to Danny in 1-2 years.
4) Repeat from #1.
Who would win Botez sister vs Kramnik @@SR-xv8de
@@SR-xv8de 😂😂
@@VBKramnik I would love to see you fight for the chess crown once again
Thank you, great insights
After seeing Magnus trying to argue Gukesh declining the repetition today was some kind of genius psychological move, when the player himself admitted it was based on a misevaluation of the position, I'm starting to think you're the only voice of reason left commentating on the match.
Did magnus actually care? He didn't seem to have studied the positions for a while. Their comments were pretty superficial.
In some previous recaps he bashed ding hard for not pressing a small edge. He got jumped on by many comments saying he should shut up since he quit. Many indians questioned his chances vs gukesh, saying gukesh would destroy magnus. Maybe he learned from that.
He never said that, he said it wasnt an absolutely terrible decision (which it wasnt) and that it was fascinating but not good objectively
@@proghostbusters1627 "He wants to show him that I can play on in any position and you're not gonna beat me" Verbatim what Carlsen said.
@@CyanGM At least your quotation is correct. How you interpreted that to be a "some kind of genius psychological move" is beyond me. Talk about cherry picking quotes and then putting your own spin on it. Absolutely clueless. Listen to the whole segment again, and see if you make the same interpretation. I can almost guarantee you will not. Cheers.
26-h4 IS not a human move ;i'm sorry but you are acting here like other commentators you were citing.with all respect a grandmaster here should analyse Ra6 or Ra5
Btw Ra6 IS very intresting and was dismissed by most simply beecause the engine put it behind due to an outstanding defense
I must admit Nepo's highlights are brilliant, he explains the tactics and all sorts of lines without an engine based on general positional understanding.
Thank you mr Kramnik, it's a pleasure watching you again
"Правда, живите по правде" - прапорщик Задов
Mr Kramink you made me love chess in the early 2000
Hello Mr Kramnik, i really like your videos, however i feel that no one is saying that the guys are playing super chess, you are not the only telling the truth that the level of this WC is a bit substandard... Keep up the good work...
„In a world full of lies, courage is found in speaking the truth!”
Tango in the Night, great album!
I agree with you Mr Kramnik
Extraordinary analysis 👍
This is what is missing , an over the board expert Human insights, when commentators mentioned Re1 amazing I did not understand, why amazing? When they praised f6 again , why it is great move ? Black is actually very short of moves and using elimination method can either play Rd5 , f6 or Ng5 what else why f6 is great ??
Finally when I watch the Chessbase India channel OMG this is becoming entertainment and sometimes DANCING !! 🤣🤣
If I was offered the red pill or the blue pill I would take the red pill every time.
Loved the no engine recaps it gives people something discuss
Great video Mister Kramnik! I love the way that you analyze the games. I think you are right when you speak about the whole situation.
and i hear so many lies i fell for it unconsciously 😔 thanks for enlightening me kramnik ❤
I think you are correct in your criticism. Analysis of the games should be more objective. It feels like the big names don't want to come out too hard on other players sometimes. Like you say, Magnus is much much more forgiving than he would be if analysing his own games. Same with Hikaru. Hikaru points out mistakes of course but always "you can't blame the player for making it". But he also criticized hard things like Dings time usage. Saying it is totally unforgivable at times basically.
On the other hand this is the instant online era. Whatever they say will be read by the players themselves and might affect the psyche or outcome even of the games. Something to keep in mind and for that reason I see why they want to not be too harsh in criticism.
I mean not going for the rook ending is just wild
Aside from Magnus, I really believe there are 10+ players in the world who can beat either of these players in a WC match. The WC is no longer a match between the two best chess players in the world- it’s just a sideshow really. There are too many great players and too much parity in chess now for the world championship to be decided like this.
Thank you very much Mr kramnik , you’re my idol even though I probably never will become so good
Looking forward to your analysis for next games!
It's a bit weird to accuse average club players of not wanting to be told the truth. In all honesty, let me tell you that 97% of what you analyzed in this video went completely over my 1700 rated head. Your criticism may be relevant for grandmasters, but for average guys it's - sorry! - completely irrelevant.
And mistakes are what makes the game interesting. Maybe not for a 2800 player like yourself, but definitely for us mere mortals.
Thank you Kramnik, you're a legend. I might be too young to see your glory days in the past. But, your commentary shows your class which never change
The match is fixed betwen FIDE ande India. by political matters. A lot of money. Gukesh will win in tie break. The show must go on.
Vladimir Kramnik, great video 👍 but switching to dark mode in Lichess settings would make it even better experience!
Congrats with 17K subscribers!
And the truth shall set you free😇
I stopped watching WC for this 👍
Same 😅
@@StalkingPeopleHmm i do
@@StalkingPeopleHmm that’s why u r here
if michael tal had stockfish he would've been cocking everyone
Lot of people do appreciate your honesty. And lot of us couldn't tell from the surface that level is lot lower.
Btw. Any new Danya videos coming ?
You said you had more material on him.
I do think you have possibly been wrong on some players but Danya is very clearly a cheater, if one opens eyes.
Do you have any opinion on why he is not again in blitz and rapid tournament at the end of the year ?.
I thought he said before he would be, but I guess again not there ?
Has he ever proven to be among one of the best OTB ? Online he is among the best, winning titled tuesdays etc.
There is not another one like him.
And he says he gets nervous OTB yet he is commentating everywhere and no nerves is seen. Seems to be able to function with other humans around. Doesn't really make sense.
* Danya played Fabi once this year and he was very eager to tell Fabi how intimidating it was to play him OTB so it was only natural for him to lose. Even that is weird that hr felt he needed to give excuses for the loss.
Fabi has accepted as reality that Danya is tough for him even with 3/2. But one gets impression this idea is based on internet play.
Kramnik is talking as if he played all his WC matches at 3500 elo and all his matches were great matches . Let's analyze his games and see the accuracy rates
Let's do 😊
Ur seeing computer lines and saying level is bad I bet if u had this position without any evaluation u would've said its a high accuracy game. Ur being deluded by the computers
Thanks for your comments, Mr Kramnik! That's very interesting.
I believe that every person is free to have any opinion about anything. So I do not understand why some players/people were bulling you for having your opinion. This is your opinion and point. Personally I agree with you and I am not alone! Support to you, Mr Kramnik❤
Thank you very much for your honest analysis. Even though I don‘t agree with everything (okay, I am 2400, you are a former world champion) there is nothing I appreciate more than honesty and looking at things in a rational way.
Please do game 11 Kramnik-sensei
👍thanks from Slovakia
Nice summary video of the players appalling level of play. Vladimir is right as usual!
Which book recommend for play like you kramnik
And that's exactly why i follow your channel Mr. Kramnyk - quality instead of lies, thanks! 👏🎉
Nice video love from india ❤
next, set dark mode plz , thx !
I have to agree with Vlad here, though i do wonder what he thought of the last WCC, and Nepo's performance in the latyer half of the WCC before that
У резкого роста популярности шахмат в последние годы есть выраженный негативный внешний эффект. Из-за погони за развлекательным контентом, продвижения некорректных дебютов/гамбитов и быстрых контролей на второй план уходит желание думать самостоятельно и развиваться. Все больше смотрят на секунды на часах или оценку движка. Эта парадигма неизбежно прививается молодым и перспективным игрокам, которые серьёзно занимаются шахматами. Поэтому весьма вероятно, что будущие матчи за мировую корону по качеству игры будут не лучше, а то и хуже нынешнего.
Я не пониманию к примеру, какой смысл учить дебюты до какогонибудь 20 хода, слышал на ютубе, что есть шахматисты которык этим занимаются. То есть, работает запоминалка, но не сам шахматист. Ничего плохого нет, посмотреть прошлую партию и ее ошибки, программа облегчает жизнь шахматисту, но мне к примеру многое непонятно после отчета с ошибками, бывает неправильная композиция фигур в дебюте, компьютер не выдает ошибки, но как снежный ком потом дорастает до ошибок, когда фигуры стоят не там где надо. все-таки программа не заменит тренера
@АлексейПоршаков, играя на онлайн платформе с оппонентом, порой заходил смотреть рейтинг и количество партий, так есть такие, у которые аккаунту 2 месяца, а игр более 5 тысяч, может даже больше цифры не помню, но по сравнению с моим которому к примеру год, партий в разы меньше, млжно сделать вывод, либо это человек, который очень любит шахматы, либо он ходит так на работу. Хотя сейчас даже думаю, что это и не человеки вовсе. Искуственный интеллект сейчас навязывает везде, даже где не надо
Я про выраженный негаьивный эффект. Хотя гдето да, балбесов много, которые блогеров пересмотрели
Do you think your in your match with vishy 2008, game 3 was world championship level? Most people will argue that this was a much better game.
"most people" are always right 🫡
GM Kramnik, in your opinion, what was the best world championship, quality of play-wise?
There were many great, latest history Carlsen with Caruana was high level
@@VBKramnik Thank you
We didn't have engines back then...
Sir, you have presented your view point very well but you have the luxury of ending a sentence with - the position is not very clear and move on. On the board , it seems , the players are misjudging if they are in advantage of +1 or so as compared to the engine analysis. Do you think that with modern engine prep players do not get that many concrete lines to analyse?
You pointed out violations of standard strategical ideas, and you were right that they computer didn't like them either. The most charitable hypothesis is that these pure calculators, who did not grow up with such strong "Russian School" training, bring another strength to the board, whether it's calculation or the new strategical ideas we learn from Alpha Zero. These players were not given their positions, they got there the hard way, like any WC or challenger. I heard that according to some computer, the accuracy level is higher than in older WC matches. So I think the picture is not as clear as presented, even though I believe Kramnik is sincere.
(1) The acceptable moves that he didn't spend so much time on, were better than other moves he also would have deemed acceptable if they had worked. There are some new principles or habits that we did not know when Kramnik was growing up. Being much weaker, I still don't know them, but there's something these players are doing more right than previous generations.
(2) And this point is supported by the "cheating" nature of this video, no of course Kramnik didn't cheat, but he used the computer and his old "no cheating" game videos did not. And so he can see the evaluation before assigning criticism. The psychological impact of this is unknown to us but also to Kramnik himself.
Thank you VB for this video, it's a good one, just want to add my perspective as above.
Last wch was way worse to be honest
Direct blunders from both nepo and ding
This event still ongoing 😊
25:40 after be3 super engine say plus 4
I feel like what's happening is that both players are too much of a calculator and conceptually good players like you do not like that.
talk to people at their level of understanding. keep the technical commentaries for your GM friends and leave the crowd enjoying fast food chess alone. thank you! with your mentality chess would have gone broke a long time ago. think bigger vladimir, think bigger! more seriously both are needed! and it is nice that you share with us the truth! keep telling us the truth but realize that chess needs money and you won't get people's money if they re bored. and sadly most people are dumb...you should be thankful for this because otherwise it would have been much harder for you to become world champion in the first place!
Chess needs money to pay the players, not to feed vampiric streamers.
you should make a video exposing danya for lying to all chess fans while he is commentating the game and saying it is very interesting game and they both play well when it’s just manipulation
14th World Champion !!
Mr. Kramnik next world championship you can play and show the world what a world championship match look like ...
hes actually done that multiple times
@JustusPaul1 he did this in past but now chess has evolved so he can't Messer everything in his past standards and we also can't except players to play like stockfish, cause stockfish is 3600 elo it's like comparing Carlson with a random IM OR GM so it doesn't make sense and they are human so they will make many mistakes...
Statistically this is one of the most accurate matches in chess history. But yeah I agree that both players have missed many chances
Statistically its one of the lowest this century. Dont trust manipulators blindly,check yourself
How can you believe in such huge lie?
Ding is in bad form, far from his peak, playing at 2680 for past 12month. Gukesh is tied with ding. You can't possibly think these two are playing the best chess in human history💀 You can get statistics to show anything you want if you define your metrics, sampling, and engine depth differently. If you play a 1000, you get 96% easy. If you play a 3600, you can't get anything above 80%. Is the game between you and the 1000 better?
Hello Mr Kramnik, I appreciate your intellectual honesty in telling your opinions exactly as you see it. But I also watch game reviews by Magnus on his "take take take" channel and by Hikaru, and although they too point out the mistakes, they don't see that so negatively to the extent of stopping the analysis of the games. Of course you don't use computer analysis, but both Hikaru and Magnus have pointed out the top computer move in some positions which they say is counter intuitive from a human perspective... I don't know if established chess theory has changed dramatically after powerful engines are used in match preparation. Even Kasparov mentioned in one youtube video that he had a notebook of analysis that he used for the world championship match and when he checked those lines against the engine, the engine said all his preparation was garbage... I know how bad it feels for him when he lived in an era without computers.
It is just they appreciate likes more than truth, sorry
When both pretend Qg5 in game 6 is not easy to spot, everything is clear to me, because they KNOW chess compared to many others
@@VBKramnikI'm just an amateur trying to make sense of what top grandmasters say and it always baffles me when they say completely different things. Anyway thanks for your clarification!
@@kartz2010This has always been the case, though. There are many games throughout history that have been analyzed by multiple strong players, and they oftentimes held completely opposing views!
Спасибо мр крамник.
Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth. - some smart guy whose name I do not remember
lmao this title
Wake up babe, new Kramnik video just dropped
I wonder what happens if you analyse the Kramnik-Kasparov games with a very powerful engine, I expect also every other move to be a mistake...
Could be so, yet you won't find rollercoasters where the needle swung from +2 to -2. to peter out in a draw.
That you won't see in the Karpov-Kasparov matches either.
@@nuwandaltonFischer's was +\-1
@bariseker4193 depends on engine strength & depth. +1 might be +5 or 0.0 on stronger engine & higher depth
@ethanguo4219 there is not that big difference as you claim between my stockfish 14 on cell phone, and stockfish sesse. Even if there was such a position it would be very very rare.
@@lesarnolfinis6775 and why is my Fischer comment deleted?
Magnus is trying to make more people watch chess, that’s all. He looks bored as hell DUI h his reviews
Владимир Борисович, как Вы считаете, с чем может быть связано такое изменение в уровне игры шахматиста? Объективно на Турнире претендентов и на Олимпиаде Гукеш выступал достаточно уверено и это были несколько другие шахматы. На чемпионате же его игра не настолько убедительна 🤔
Третий монитор?)
what happened to the no cheating recaps?
I was wondering the same thing.... I do not understand the point of this video nor how it fits with the first ones.
It would be nice to have answers, have a clear view in black and white but unfortunately its all a big fog of gray.
Not just in chess but all else as well we probably will never get the truth and just have to decide whats the best way to live with that.
I admire all who seek the truth, hopefully one day you will find it.
I appreciate the commentary, i much prefer the truth over the lies. I have maintained that this wasn't a world championship match to begin with since magnus isn't playing, but this is even worse than i thought
Do you think Ding vs Nepo had more quality?
totally agree
Hi. I have some really interesting things to talk about with you, like potential cheating and the issue with Ding performance in WCC. I will show you the evidences as well to support my claims. Let me know if you are interested. I think you will find it really valuable and i will really appreciate your time. Thank you.
thanks for your honest and true words.see you soon
The level of play is about 2300, we know it, Mr Kramnik!
@@MaxSujyPOLYou're having some trouble understanding past games and the current.
Ding Liren pre-pandemic was a beast compared to later on, which is just a fact.
Same with Gukesh compared just a couple of months ago.
Forms fluctuate a lot.
I hope this is sarcasm 😂
I guess you would agree with Garry who said, he doesn't consider this as world Chess Championship as it doesn't decide who best player in the world is
But it's a Fide Tournament
The WC needs not be the best player in the world.
You share reality and sane opinions and get told you're crazy