This is why Stephen is the greatest ever in my opinion. Always had the crowd against in 90s and he still handled the pressure at such a young age and win so much
Hendry is defo not the greatest ever. There is no way. He’s not even the second best. Everyone just thinks he is coz of the 7 world championships. If he was the best ever wouldn’t have missed that black in the middle hehehehehe
@@hatesitrick Rubbish! Youngest world champion. 5 WC’s in a row, 5 masters in a row. 29 match winning streak at the crucible and the highest win rate there. Triple crown in 2 different years, only person to do it. Only player to get a 147 in a final frame in a final. Most centuries in a match, only matched recently. 8 years at no.1 amd never out if the top 16. Go back to sleep! 😂
I remember this finals William's was so many frames behind he caught up and Hendry got under pressure it was similar to the Denis Taylor world championship match. I have to say this is the best snooker game I have ever watched. I remember me and my brother screaming when Hendry missed the black, I became a William fan and after this Hendry was never the same after losing to Williams. Thanks for the upload it bought back good memories
That night, I remember switching over to Channel 4, after this match, to watch Richard E Grant star in the romantic drama 'Jack and Sarah'. It's strange, some of the inconsequential shite you remember.
the run of the ball that Dennis got off the final black was unreal, but people forget that he was a good player and had got to the final a few years earlier. Davis should have finished him off earlier in the match but Dennis stayed in there and too his chance. He won the masters against Higgins a few years later in a similar fashion. But yes, I wish he would stop banging on about it.
No Hendry aged badly. Look at his game and also his physical appearance. After 2000 he was done contrast to Ronnie and also Williams. So sad. Although Ronnie is overall good I believe prime Hendry was the best I have seen(90). He had a extraordinary dominance. But relatively shorter peak (But winning 6 world champion titles consecutively is not bad though). But he faded away so badly. After 2002 he was done though retired in 2012. Such a legend....
Just came here to watch after Stephen and Mark reminisced about this shot on Stephen's channel. Mark kept saying Stephen twitched, and he sure as heck did NOT twitch. But at the same time, Stephen remembered the black being much further away than it really was. Still a horrible shot to have to try to win the championship on though.
People who think Hendry is still the greatest player of all time probably because they can't play the sport or they need an eye test. Hendry with his 800 career century breaks hahaha..
Some smashing safety play by Williams in this one. I remember back in 98 everyone was talking about Ronnie becoming the new dominant force in snooker, and then a few months after this tournament Higgins won his first world title and there was a lot of speculation that he was going to be the dominant force. First and foremost I thought that Hendry would be winning world titles into his forties, but barring that, I really thought Mark Williams was going to be the next 6 times world champion.
A nice '85 reminiscence, as one of the protagonists, Dennis Taylor, pointed out. It's almost the same, really. Williams never got in the lead during the final, until this very last black. It also marked the beginning of the end of an era, couldn't agree more, JohnRagoon. There also were similar safety shots, doubles and misses by a fraction. The 'underdog' has won. The only real major difference is that this black was respotted.
I loved watching Snooker from 7 years old in 1990 until 00/01. Those Sunday nights(sometimes a Monday)were great, watching the presentation after it, with the crowd roaring. I gravitated towards Hendry, being both Scottish, and he was the first person I seen, lifting the Big One. He obviously went on to Dominate the 90s. Was always gutted when he went out or lost to John Higgins, O'Sullivan or Williams, who were also, my goto, back ups. Hendry's decline from the top saddened me, the illusion of being young and indestructible vanished. The rankings used to mean a lot more back then, and Stephen going from Number 1 absolute, then rotating between 1st and 2nd, then 1st to 3rd, to top 5, top 10 then dropping to top 16 and losing 1st/2nd round matches was hard to watch, and I pretty much stopped watching Snooker as religiously, when Stephens steep decline began. He was still relativly young, so he must have peaked by late 20s, hit a plateau early 30s and then kamikaz'd just as the newer generation came onto the scene, and the game became a bit of a prostitute ... Although, nobody has ever really dominated Snooker again. Ronnie, probably should have.
You were right the first time, Hendry was awarded the trophy to keep after his fifth win in 1993. (He subsequently won the tournament a sixth time in 1996). But the one he was given to keep wasn't the same trophy as the one he and Williams are competing for here. (See the 2-minute mark). The reason *this* one was replaced was, as I said, because the sponsor changed.
The wrong shot i believe was after Hendry potted the green and tried to pot the brown. At that point williams didnt need a snooker. The pot was low % and with Hendrys skill, should have made a snooker from that brown and heap the pressure back onto Williams. This is especially true if you have a small wall of 2 or 3 balls near where you are putting white and can lay a effective snooker with that little wall. hendry would have had the breathing room he needed. I saw a very similar situation with O'Sullivan where he tried a difficult pot where the correct easy shot was to make a snooker and force some points and maybe easier pot out of a fluked position after the reply. I played A grade and this same thing came up when i was ahead and had difficult pot when ahead or easier snooker ect. I always took the pot on and mostly lost that frame when i had the lead. Steve Davis had a code of always taking on the % shot and he rarely got into trouble when ahead and thus was so difficult to beat even against the wiley old guys who did a lot of snookering to force and weaken your game. So always play the best shot that you sure of pulling off not the one you hope to work. If it means holding you fire to wait for better opportunity then fine- remember you are out there to win a frame not to show off your skills. Ego is the hardest thing for a player to overcome.
Just watching this is giving me anxiety remembering being in these positions. Minor money or tourney on the line so I can't imagine what it is like with 70k pounds on the line! Ugh.
I didn’t appreciate how good Stephen was as a player at the time.. He was without doubt the most successful player the game has ever seen in the modern era.. He for me was one the best middle potters ironically and that miss must have hurt.. Mark was always capable of beating anyone and I mean anyone on their day if he was firing on all cylinders.. Mark is not so dissimilar to Trump, in that their top level is clearly well above their peers... I only wish Stephen could have smiled more, I know it’s not a reflection of how he really felt.. If Stephen had a fault though, it was his inability to reign in the aggressive play on occasion.. To sum Stephen up, he’s the most gifted player that has managed to make the most of their talent and convert it to trophies...
this was the only time ive seen hendry's opponent look more focussed and relaxed. Hendry is gulping and looking terrified and williams is smiling and playing with more freedom
Unfortunately not, as far as I know - and neither is there an alternative angle on Williams' winning black. It's the only drawback of this footage, I've always thought. Up until about 10 or 15 years ago they never used to bother showing action replays in snooker coverage either, for some reason; so the camera angle you were shown on the live shot was pretty much all you got.
I think probably for sponsorship reasons. The Masters was sponsored by Benson & Hedges until 2003, at which point restrictions on tobacco advertising came into effect, so a new sponsor had to be brought in. The big gold trophy was the old B&H Masters trophy, with B&H engraved into it.
I was wondering if Dennis would talk about the 1985 final before I watched the upload, why was I wondering??, it was going to happen, he mentions it whenever there is a tight finish....
He mentions it 200 times a day every day, even in Tescos lol. It's past time for retiring for him, and he's a dire commentator who calls wrong shots galore. He was wrong three times in the same sentence a while back 😃
@@FreddysHamster yes mate he predicts a players shot then they do something different, Dennis Taylor's tombstone will have the words 'Back in 1985 I beat Steve Davis on the black'...
It's like Draco Malfoy ana Neville Long bottom are having a snooker match
Christos Apostolakis Hendry also looks like Justin Bieber
Hahahaha
😂😂😂 hahaha
Snookich
Christos Apostolakis you are so talented。
Great to see Williams is still playing at the top of his game and is still one of the best players in the world 👍🏻
yeah 20 years ago lol.
@@qtime5286 nah 2017-2018 he was one of the best players in the world. He has just lost his fire again.
and he is the World No.2 at the moment
@@9am6pm no he's not lol
james stenson just double checked again and he is lol
Nobody:
Denis Taylor: “well in the ‘85 final”
This is why Stephen is the greatest ever in my opinion. Always had the crowd against in 90s and he still handled the pressure at such a young age and win so much
You've just described Steve Davies in the 80s.
Hendry is defo not the greatest ever. There is no way. He’s not even the second best. Everyone just thinks he is coz of the 7 world championships. If he was the best ever wouldn’t have missed that black in the middle hehehehehe
@@hatesitrick more difficult shot than you think considering the nap of the table.
@@hatesitrick Rubbish! Youngest world champion. 5 WC’s in a row, 5 masters in a row. 29 match winning streak at the crucible and the highest win rate there. Triple crown in 2 different years, only person to do it. Only player to get a 147 in a final frame in a final. Most centuries in a match, only matched recently. 8 years at no.1 amd never out if the top 16. Go back to sleep! 😂
@@nickright7747 That would be pushing it.
I remember this finals William's was so many frames behind he caught up and Hendry got under pressure it was similar to the Denis Taylor world championship match. I have to say this is the best snooker game I have ever watched. I remember me and my brother screaming when Hendry missed the black, I became a William fan and after this Hendry was never the same after losing to Williams. Thanks for the upload it bought back good memories
legendary frame of snooker. this is what got me into snooker back at age 11 and made me a williams fan. great to see it again, thanks for uploading.
I think most people if you weren’t Scottish wanted Williams to win. I got fed up of the arrogant Hendry winning everything.
I am sure u r pretty happy now since he is current world champion
Williams had his hand up for the shake at 11:51 but damn this game is cruel.
Wow, you catch the details. Never saw it until I went back at looked at it again because of your post. Very good of you
lol missed that detail as well
damn I only just noticed that
You have a very sharp observation Abhimanyu.
👍🏻💐
Yeah only just noticed that, right match.
11:48 Stephen probably still wakes up in the small hours in a cold sweat remembering this one.
I doubt it, he wakes up in a sweat because his bird is under the duvet sucking him off.......
Doubt it as he won plenty .jimmy white may do though .
Best match i've ever seen! Thanks for uploading.
Williams really looks like Neville longbottom from Harry Potter xD
Lol, that's because it is, Williams acts and was Nevillle
So true haha
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Thank for upload.very very classic match
Such a sportsmanship from mark at last shot of hendry he had kept his hand ready for a congratulation handshake at 11:50
I had so much anxiety watching this. Can't imagine playing it.
That night, I remember switching over to Channel 4, after this match, to watch Richard E Grant star in the romantic drama 'Jack and Sarah'.
It's strange, some of the inconsequential shite you remember.
😂
One of the greatest snooker matches of all time.
Matthew Maguire
Irfan Ali
GOD DENNIS NEVER TALKS TO ANYONE WITHOUT MENTIONING 1985
What a final. Up there with one of the best.
Gosh Williams looks really young. Although old really enjoyable viewing thank you for the upload
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I agree
It’s such a shame the old Wembley Conference Centre is no more. It had an atmosphere than no other. More special than the crucible I’d argue.
Lol at 8:00 Dennis getting his 85 quote in there
When ur rite ur rite
the run of the ball that Dennis got off the final black was unreal, but people forget that he was a good player and had got to the final a few years earlier. Davis should have finished him off earlier in the match but Dennis stayed in there and too his chance. He won the masters against Higgins a few years later in a similar fashion. But yes, I wish he would stop banging on about it.
The other commentator had to stress on "The most important shot of THIS young man's life." Dennis should've shut up a couple of sentences ago.
Every year even until this day they always talk about Davis Taylor final like that one was more important than any other championship
@@ashishrs Your attitude is shit
Just yesterday I saw a video of Mark Williams from 2019. He’s aged well. So has Hendry for that matter.
No Hendry aged badly. Look at his game and also his physical appearance. After 2000 he was done contrast to Ronnie and also Williams. So sad. Although Ronnie is overall good I believe prime Hendry was the best I have seen(90). He had a extraordinary dominance. But relatively shorter peak (But winning 6 world champion titles consecutively is not bad though). But he faded away so badly. After 2002 he was done though retired in 2012. Such a legend....
Most beautiful snooker video I have ever seen
Just came here to watch after Stephen and Mark reminisced about this shot on Stephen's channel. Mark kept saying Stephen twitched, and he sure as heck did NOT twitch. But at the same time, Stephen remembered the black being much further away than it really was. Still a horrible shot to have to try to win the championship on though.
Thanks. Great answer!
That's unusual for Dennis Taylor to mention the final of the 1985 World Chamionship..... ffs!!
Most rare of Dennis to mention that he was in a black ball finish in 1985 against Steve Davis.....
He'll be mentioning that he used to be pretty good with his left hand next!
Hendry , the best snooker player of all time.
Im sure he is.
Greatest all round player without a doubt.
Hendry changed the face of the game. Besides Alex Higgins, it used to be a total defensive sport.
@Jimmy Johnson Overrated
People who think Hendry is still the greatest player of all time probably because they can't play the sport or they need an eye test. Hendry with his 800 career century breaks hahaha..
wow.. incredible decider.. thank you youtube for suggesting me this video..
possibly this has to be the best snooker masters final ever
This was some really nice and enjoyable snoooker.
Most of my pool games down the pub finish like this. Lovely stuff.
Such a baggy shirt. Well played Mark!
this has got to be the most tense frame of snooker ever played
The final match on the final black of the WSC 1985 (Steve Davis vs Dennis Taylor) is also so intense..
Wonderful stuff from Mark Williams
Ah, don't be sad mr. HENDRY Because you are the greate for ever man. I like you for ever and no one can be as well as you are. Good Luck and be happy.
old one but great match...and mark and Stephen are best of fiends ...they always practice together when at tournaments....
It's one of the finest moment in snooker
crazy going from a video of hendry when he was 14 then to this
The best final ever. Absolute thrill
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Asfand Shakeel
Some smashing safety play by Williams in this one. I remember back in 98 everyone was talking about Ronnie becoming the new dominant force in snooker, and then a few months after this tournament Higgins won his first world title and there was a lot of speculation that he was going to be the dominant force. First and foremost I thought that Hendry would be winning world titles into his forties, but barring that, I really thought Mark Williams was going to be the next 6 times world champion.
8:15
Yes, Dennis we all remember the 85 final 🥱
Legendary final!)🎱
Anyway stephen was the player of the decade.
WTF man..what a nice touch this frame...very nice Hendry...
7:21 Hendry's profile looks a bit like Arnold, doesn't he?
he looks like arnold and dicaprio haha
Back when snooker crowds where the best❤️
What a superb frame of snooker, it had the lot
williams before he hit the whiskey, fast cars and fast living!
A nice '85 reminiscence, as one of the protagonists, Dennis Taylor, pointed out.
It's almost the same, really. Williams never got in the lead during the final, until this very last black. It also marked the beginning of the end of an era, couldn't agree more, JohnRagoon. There also were similar safety shots, doubles and misses by a fraction.
The 'underdog' has won.
The only real major difference is that this black was respotted.
williams facial expressions are priceless
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Wow I was born in 88 I no all these players but it's crazy they all look sooòo young I was 10 here
I loved watching Snooker from 7 years old in 1990 until 00/01. Those Sunday nights(sometimes a Monday)were great, watching the presentation after it, with the crowd roaring. I gravitated towards Hendry, being both Scottish, and he was the first person I seen, lifting the Big One. He obviously went on to Dominate the 90s. Was always gutted when he went out or lost to John Higgins, O'Sullivan or Williams, who were also, my goto, back ups.
Hendry's decline from the top saddened me, the illusion of being young and indestructible vanished. The rankings used to mean a lot more back then, and Stephen going from Number 1 absolute, then rotating between 1st and 2nd, then 1st to 3rd, to top 5, top 10 then dropping to top 16 and losing 1st/2nd round matches was hard to watch, and I pretty much stopped watching Snooker as religiously, when Stephens steep decline began.
He was still relativly young, so he must have peaked by late 20s, hit a plateau early 30s and then kamikaz'd just as the newer generation came onto the scene, and the game became a bit of a prostitute ... Although, nobody has ever really dominated Snooker again. Ronnie, probably should have.
Stephen Hendry kept it after he won his fifth Masters title, something similar to Brazil and the old Jules Rimet trophy in football
I miss the chap who use to announce players before match began.. he was good .. Brilliant Hendry!
Great memories good old 90's
You were right the first time, Hendry was awarded the trophy to keep after his fifth win in 1993. (He subsequently won the tournament a sixth time in 1996). But the one he was given to keep wasn't the same trophy as the one he and Williams are competing for here. (See the 2-minute mark). The reason *this* one was replaced was, as I said, because the sponsor changed.
I miss the B&H trophies, they were magnificent. Pretty as the 2004-present trophy is, its not a match on the gold trophies
What a frame...
nice to see the audience dressed properly, not like nowadays.
I love Dennis Taylor, oddly, that final he had I remember far more than this or any other, I think many others do as well
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He had his Jack from Titanic look here!
Great match
Mark is my favourite player
The wrong shot i believe was after Hendry potted the green and tried to pot the brown. At that point williams didnt need a snooker. The pot was low % and with Hendrys skill, should have made a snooker from that brown and heap the pressure back onto Williams. This is especially true if you have a small wall of 2 or 3 balls near where you are putting white and can lay a effective snooker with that little wall. hendry would have had the breathing room he needed. I saw a very similar situation with O'Sullivan where he tried a difficult pot where the correct easy shot was to make a snooker and force some points and maybe easier pot out of a fluked position after the reply. I played A grade and this same thing came up when i was ahead and had difficult pot when ahead or easier snooker ect. I always took the pot on and mostly lost that frame when i had the lead. Steve Davis had a code of always taking on the % shot and he rarely got into trouble when ahead and thus was so difficult to beat even against the wiley old guys who did a lot of snookering to force and weaken your game.
So always play the best shot that you sure of pulling off not the one you hope to work. If it means holding you fire to wait for better opportunity then fine- remember you are out there to win a frame not to show off your skills. Ego is the hardest thing for a player to overcome.
What shot did Mark Williams play when he potted the pink? Was it a plain ball hit or did he put a little bit of right hand side?
+Henman5 Yes, I think he did put right hand side to get the angle.
The beginning of the end for Hendry he was never the same after this. His air of invisibility had gone
You mean no one could see him? :-)
Invincibility 😁👍
Just watching this is giving me anxiety remembering being in these positions. Minor money or tourney on the line so I can't imagine what it is like with 70k pounds on the line! Ugh.
Algorythm, ty
What a match
Rest in Peace David Vine. Tv sport isn't the same.
That should have read sixth, but I was wrong anyway, but he did get to keep it when they changed it I believe as he'swon it the most times
Can it get any closer than that?
What A Style What A Beauty What A Class..
best final ever
I didn’t appreciate how good Stephen was as a player at the time.. He was without doubt the most successful player the game has ever seen in the modern era.. He for me was one the best middle potters ironically and that miss must have hurt.. Mark was always capable of beating anyone and I mean anyone on their day if he was firing on all cylinders.. Mark is not so dissimilar to Trump, in that their top level is clearly well above their peers...
I only wish Stephen could have smiled more, I know it’s not a reflection of how he really felt.. If Stephen had a fault though, it was his inability to reign in the aggressive play on occasion..
To sum Stephen up, he’s the most gifted player that has managed to make the most of their talent and convert it to trophies...
its hard to watch hendry miss that last black
Anyone know why big gold trophy was replaced with heavy crystal trophy?
just unbelieveable awsom :D
this was the only time ive seen hendry's opponent look more focussed and relaxed. Hendry is gulping and looking terrified and williams is smiling and playing with more freedom
True
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What a good times! :)
Heyecan verici :)
neville longbottom playing snooker :o
I am at the same age and I have seen Williams n henry teenage and old in just a next match 😅
was there another camera angle on hendrys final shot?
Unfortunately not, as far as I know - and neither is there an alternative angle on Williams' winning black. It's the only drawback of this footage, I've always thought. Up until about 10 or 15 years ago they never used to bother showing action replays in snooker coverage either, for some reason; so the camera angle you were shown on the live shot was pretty much all you got.
that was a simple shot but he missed it :)
haris sial not so simple under pressure on the crucial last ball of the match, especially going across the nap
Daz Burnside.. Ya bro i agree wd u as well :)
Amazing atmosphere! Why is it that we don't get these sort of atmospheres anymore in snooker?
We would if we had a black ball final frame
what a match
I think probably for sponsorship reasons. The Masters was sponsored by Benson & Hedges until 2003, at which point restrictions on tobacco advertising came into effect, so a new sponsor had to be brought in. The big gold trophy was the old B&H Masters trophy, with B&H engraved into it.
Williams kept the trophy after winning the final B&H sponsored Masters in 2003
what a match yr.
7:21 the disgusted look over hendry’s face tell you how disappointed he was
super tense stuff
Great to see jb doing different stuff ❌
Is this on goffs?
I noticed that the audiences were in formal suits
i have williams' autograph :) and stevens :D yes im welsh :p
Mark Williams is the best single ball potter in the game without a doubt
That fluke on yellow reminds me of the fluke of black by Ronnie in the final frame with Selby 😅😅
I was wondering if Dennis would talk about the 1985 final before I watched the upload, why was I wondering??, it was going to happen, he mentions it whenever there is a tight finish....
He mentions it 200 times a day every day, even in Tescos lol. It's past time for retiring for him, and he's a dire commentator who calls wrong shots galore. He was wrong three times in the same sentence a while back 😃
@@FreddysHamster yes mate he predicts a players shot then they do something different, Dennis Taylor's tombstone will have the words 'Back in 1985 I beat Steve Davis on the black'...
I think the referee wants the crowd to be quiet.
These pockets look massive, have a look at that mark Williams pink in the top right corner , pocket was huge.
+93football4life I haven't seen a pocket that big since Mickey Finn and DJ Hype went back to back at Jungle Mania 1993.
true
If I had a time machine the 1st thing I'd do is make Tony Drago the 1985 world champ and Taylor a trolley man at Asda.
Brilliant 😂😂😂
6:53 Sarcastic Smile By The King Of The Crucible Who Making Many Flukes.Mark Willians Deserve The Title.
What a final