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    In the UK there has been many attempts at a proper Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system however it must be said that Belfast has certainly nailed the concept. In this video I review their Glider network with new vehicles, infrastructure and a set of routes that interwork perfectly with the existing network to improve passenger figures!
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  • @SeanTheBusEnthusiast
    @SeanTheBusEnthusiast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I subscribed. Hopefully I will get on the Gliders in the summer as last week I didn't get a chance to ride them.

  • @ilasshn
    @ilasshn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much! Rather scared of travelling this way, in case I got lost. But sounds good. Thanks

  • @busesinnorthernireland.2858
    @busesinnorthernireland.2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope You Enjoyed Your visit!

  • @6ettinold
    @6ettinold ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow. These look very similar to our trams in Nottingham - doubtlessly a damned sight cheaper than the ridiculously expensive £500m+ for our recent extension.

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aye I believe this BRT scheme was done as the geography of the city won't fit in trams. It does make you wonder if this has been successful why other UK cities haven't adopted it properly.

    • @dog-ez2nu
      @dog-ez2nu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The ride is definitely not as good as trams, plus ultimately you can't beat wired electric high capacity transit on steel rails.

    • @legoinventions6056
      @legoinventions6056 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As someone from Belfast who lives in Nottingham, I can confirm the trams are way better! Ride quality on the Glider is much worse (exhausting if you have to stand), they are polluting diesel vehicles and the system is terribly planned:
      1. There aren't enough seats: vehicles are too short for a city the size of Belfast (they should at least have bought the double-articulated ones) so there is less seating capacity than when double-deckers ran the route. Because the routes have so little churn (most passengers are going to/from the city centre), you often have no chance of a seat freeing up. Double-deckers with 2 doors would have been better.
      2. The Gliders cannot get you quickly and reliably to your destination: there is no signal priority and the stops are every 400m, so Gliders constantly stop and start, get stuck in traffic and 'bunch' at peak times. Neither the existing routes nor the planned extension will connect to Belfast's new central train and bus station, which is madness.

    • @Alto53
      @Alto53 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@legoinventions6056 if they solved the solvable issues you have raised, how would it then compare to the tram?

    • @legoinventions6056
      @legoinventions6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alto53 The only things that can’t be ‘relatively’ easily solved are ride quality and emissions. The tram will always have better ride quality than any kind of bus (although it must be said trams do squeal around corners, which buses don’t). As for zero emission buses, trolley buses are the way to go; green hydrogen is still too expensive and batteries are bad for the environment and would probably limit the use of the buses between charging (not sure what the range of a BEV double decker is). One solution could be hybrid trolley buses with smaller batteries which charge on the wires. This way the wires don’t have to cover the entire network. However the minuscule likelihood of Translink investing in wires was always going to rule out a tram or trolleybus for Belfast.

  • @ricktownend9144
    @ricktownend9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Many thanks for this - I've been wanting to see a detailed review of the Glider system. I agree with your point about cross city services; I've never understood why most bus companies don't do this as a general policy. They seem hung up on the idea that you must 'grade' bus routes by what they see as their 'milkability' - how much custom/money the route makes. So some routes get buses every 10 minutes, others every 20 minutes etc., which makes linking them up across the centre problematical. I think this is an error of judgment - the London Underground, with frequent cross-city trains on most lines, works brilliantly. In fact people's transit needs don't go by the kind of area they live in, and maybe hard-nosed commercial bus operators are just not capable of running a service which gives everyone a frequent service which runs more than just 9am-6pm.

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching, I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed the video! Cross-city services do have a mix of pro and against arguments. Personally, if researched they can be very successful however the opposing point to this is delays can have a larger effect with these style of routes, usually when services are cross-city for operational ease rather than commuting patterns. Examples of Leeds and Nottingham can demonstrate this two sided argument very well.

    • @ricktownend9144
      @ricktownend9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndMoreCentral Thanks for replying. Yes, I'm sure that in specific circumstances 'one-legged' routes can make sense. I just feel that there should be a lot more cross-town routes, in an attempt to gain more share of total traffic for public transport. An important part of this is to make as many journeys possible/practical by bus & train, and this can best be done within an urban area by cross-town routes, run frequently, with good quality interchanges (easy/quick/comfortable/accessible/well-signed/through-ticketing etc.). Unfortunately the bus-managers' response often seems to be 'most of our passengers only travel between home and the centre, and we don't really care about the rest'!
      Obviously making longer journeys is even more difficult when frequency is less than every ten minutes, and all journeys are cut short at the centre. This at a time when for reasons of climate, congestion, air quality etc. we need to get maximum transfer from cars to public transport. I gather from Roger French's 'BusandTrainUser' blog that there is a bus industry '10-percent Club' think-tank (ways and means to increase bus patronage by this amount): this seems a woefully low-level aim in view of the urgency; providing decent cross-town links might give a 10% lift in passenger numbers simply by providing travel opportunities - before they start considering plush seats, phone chargers and whatever...
      Very many thanks for your series of enjoyable and informative videos

  • @stephenmckinstry9881
    @stephenmckinstry9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glider started in September 2018 the stop you were getting on at on the G2 at titanic quarter into city centre is a Further education collage called belfast Met so it can be a very busy stop at Times

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aye its been going a fair while then, the presentation was still very impressive too. I can imagine as a few G2 runs I caught off camera did showcase how busy they can get

  • @BusesInDublin
    @BusesInDublin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you finally got around to bussing in Northern Ireland! have you any plans to come to Dublin? and maybe check out some of the NTA Bus Connects project?

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aye this is the first of 5 of this style of video covering bus related stuff in Belfast and Dublin so hopefully you'll enjoy the upcoming stuff

    • @BusesInDublin
      @BusesInDublin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndMoreCentral Nice one. I'll be make sure to comment on those ones 😉

  • @jaredcope1301
    @jaredcope1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sprint is getting some of these vanhools, 20 of them I believe operated by National Express along with their hydrogen streetdecks and mmcs upon launch of sprint and these vanhools being rolled out on the service, when that happens maybe you could do a video on them.

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye the new Sprint BRT will be very good and hopefully follow on the success of the Glider network, if that does become the case I'll certainly be down to check the network out

    • @jaredcope1301
      @jaredcope1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndMoreCentral Yeah, it will be the first of its kind sonce the withdrawal of streetcars and most articulated buses on the mainland. I do hope that sprint is a success wich if everything is on track its believed to be around may time that sprints going to launch.

  • @GTLPT
    @GTLPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope you can do buses down in Cornwall, it is really awkward with the narrow lanes

    • @bus3s
      @bus3s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nothing really special going on there though

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cornwall is a bus museum designed to torment enthusiasts with the amount of body filler on display, with a gert arterial line funded by the EU running down the middle of it with MMC's

    • @dennistrident981
      @dennistrident981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was better before they withdrawn the president's

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully some Cornwall content will be appearing later this year...

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glider would pretty much be what would happen if FTRmetro wasn't bad

  • @paulhelm971
    @paulhelm971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow they do look like the old Hyperlink/FTR StreetCars. Maybe with Tap On and Tap Off they might work over here without the need of a Bus Conductor. Still much better than the older Volvo B10LA. One fault with the Hyperlinks was you had to board them through front entrance but could depart from front or rear.

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aye it was very strange to see how similar they actually were aha. It could work but I think a lot of infrastructure work would have to be untaken somewhere like Leeds to facilitate these, bearing in mind too a lot of the Glider network is flat roads with very few hills

  • @kevinpowers9024
    @kevinpowers9024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In September we are staying at the Holiday Inn Express in Belfast. Does the Glider or other busses frequent the Belfast City Airport?

    • @paulmills3030
      @paulmills3030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That location full of refugees

  • @beatriztavares887
    @beatriztavares887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello! All the bus stops has this translink machine?

  • @kylepittendreigh8401
    @kylepittendreigh8401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it it looks like a tram

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye that is the intended feel for these ones

  • @walterfillingham
    @walterfillingham ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest they seem old fashioned these days, reminds me of the awful bendy buses in Aberdeen run by First. Even more surprising they run with diesel. Our entire bus fleet in Inverness is completely electric and really nice to travel on and seem far more advanced. Even Aberdeen has a mixture of Hydrogen double decker bus fleet with First and electric bus fleet with Stagecoach.

  • @YorksLancsTransportHub
    @YorksLancsTransportHub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw these on Wyca as possibly proposed for the mass transit. I hope we dont get these and we go for Light Rail like Gm as the high platforms makes it nice.

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the current economic climate it would make sense to get something like this as the infrastructure costs are drastically lower than a light rail project unfortunately

  • @paulmathews7021
    @paulmathews7021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see they have the Irish language on the speaker system .
    Progress towards a unites Ireland!

  • @JaidenJimenez86
    @JaidenJimenez86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh fuckin hell, is that what they are? That's what they're getting in Walsall

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are VanHool hybrid vehicles that I must say were very nice. The Birmingham BRT is set to get hydrogen vehicles so unsure if they'll be the same style as these

  • @patrickp63
    @patrickp63 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was at here at sunday

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like to think that Glider has started the comeback of bendy buses in the UK.
    This might mean that other places in the country could get them too.
    Do you think Bendy buses should make a comeback in the uk?

  • @ilasshn
    @ilasshn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I get routes ?

  • @steady_94
    @steady_94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many can they carry?

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      About 30 seated and 50 standing about 80 people I think.

    • @steady_94
      @steady_94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@declangaming24 not as many seated as I thought

    • @greek9244
      @greek9244 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@declangaming24 no it’s about 180.

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty much FTRmetro the second

  • @belfastbusfan
    @belfastbusfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long are you or were you in Belfast for?

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was there for a week, with a number of other Belfast and Dublin related videos on their way very soon

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just imagine if swansea got a new bus transport system

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know in China, they have a trackless tram which follows dotted lines?
    Imagine if we got one of them In the uk!

  • @davideeyore2002
    @davideeyore2002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guided buses. They're still buses. It's what Liverpool may be getting. I think it's a cheap alternative to trams. Won't do

  • @M124M
    @M124M ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Showing the machines but no explanation how to buy a ticket-then what? tap off?

    • @AndMoreCentral
      @AndMoreCentral  ปีที่แล้ว

      A day ticket for all Metro services including Glider is available to purchase from the machines, believe it was £4.20 on my visit

    • @greek9244
      @greek9244 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just tap in. On every metro bus there’s a pay cap of £3.50 per day. Idk what it’s like on the glider but there might be a pay cap