Repair of a £300 Marantz SD2020 Drawer Fed Cassette Deck - Is this TOO sexy?

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  • @Stephen.C.
    @Stephen.C. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Lovely unit. And from a time when Marantz were supposedly much more cheaply built. Looks perfect inside now.

  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I bought a complete Marantz Slimline system in blue around 1998 because I liked how they looked and operated. Unfortunately looks aren't everything and compared to my previous system, the top-of-the-line stereo from Philips from 1987, the amplifier didn't sound that good.
    Also I was told by the salespeople that there was a dual cassette deck with a DCC recorder, but that never showed up (Philips had discontinued DCC in 1996; the DCC Museum has proof that it existed but we're not sure if it ever made it to market). I eventually ended up with this cassette deck, a CD/MiniDisc combination, an amplifier/receiver and a Dolby Surround decoder.
    When I emigrated from the Netherlands to the USA, I had to let it go unfortunately.

    • @BG101UK
      @BG101UK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel your pain not having this any more. I would love to have such a system. I myself regret not having kept some of the stuff I've passed on over the years, but space and budget constraints and all that.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah I bet the cd / minidisc combo was quite a nice unit, especially it was the same size as this. Handy to have both just tucked away inside there!

    • @anthonyxuereb792
      @anthonyxuereb792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I'm not mistaken, Matsushita Panasonic released DCC onto the market as they had gotten onboard with Philips, whereas Sony went the mini -disc path. Typically the manufactures were split into between the two different camps. One DCC drawback was that it wasn't random access and please forgive me if I'm wrong.

  • @1975Loeven
    @1975Loeven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amazing deck, never seen one of those before. Not a true fan of drawer decks, but i wouldn't mind this as a playback deck alone.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well it'll be up on eBay possibly this weekend, if you want it, drop me an email! It won't be expensive!

  • @basroos_snafu
    @basroos_snafu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That's a wonderful machine! There are a couple of aspects to it that "feel" a bit similar to Philips DCC and CC decks. Could there be a link? Well done, I wish you a lot of joy and luck using this device!

    • @michaelturner4457
      @michaelturner4457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, there is a link. When this deck was made in late 90s, Marantz was owned by Philips. And there was Marantz DCC decks made in the 90s. I'm sure this one has a very similar transport to the DCCs, that were also tray loading.

    • @basroos_snafu
      @basroos_snafu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelturner4457 That is nice, yes it was in details such as the tray-loading mechanism, as well as the pinch roller-assembly, the overall plastic finish, the exact potentiometers and the 3,15K speed adjustment and not least the loading problem it initially had. Of course these similarities don't have to be exclusive, but the combination of all the small things gace me that feel. Thanks for knowing and sharing your info!

    • @hermanmunster3358
      @hermanmunster3358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Marantz CD players of that era were virtually identical to their similarly priced Philips counterparts too, at least internally.

    • @basroos_snafu
      @basroos_snafu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hermanmunster3358 That sounds familiar, I didn't realize this initially, but I do remember replacing belts and cogs that were interchangeable for the CDM-4 mechanism in early 90's CD players.

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really nice deck I have a Yamaha mini system with surround speakers a mate was going to take to the trip this has a slot loading cassette deck I think it is motorised been a while .

  • @rafacq
    @rafacq หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

  • @thomashoppe893
    @thomashoppe893 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its the Belt in the Drawer Drive.
    Same Prblem as with a lot of CD-Players i have fixed.

  • @giuseppelavecchia775
    @giuseppelavecchia775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ottimo lavoro e bel registratore!

  • @simonmarsden66
    @simonmarsden66 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hadn't realised until now that I need one of these

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Going on eBay this weekend if you want to email and buy it cheaper!

    • @simonmarsden66
      @simonmarsden66 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pwrestoration bad timing for me I'm afraid, but good luck with the sale

  • @julianshaw3776
    @julianshaw3776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just bought one off fleabay for £39. Got a tape jammed in it. Hopefully get it sorted over the weekend.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope this helps!

    • @julianshaw3776
      @julianshaw3776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @pwrestoration yes completely. My deck has exactly the same issue with the loading mechanism. If you just touch the cassette as it loads it drops in and works if you don't, it ejects again. Belt slips right at the end of the loading procedure. Ordered a couple of multi size belt packs. Hopefully will cure it. Then to set speed and azimuth. Thanks for this video, certainly saved me some time!!! Cheers.

  • @jbinary82
    @jbinary82 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember lot of strange cassette player mechanisms in high end shops. They were amazing

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hopefully I can find more!

  • @UgurOnderBozkurt
    @UgurOnderBozkurt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:16 probably those screws are not copper. copper is not hard enough to be screwed. they are brass. brass is more yellow-golden but copper is more red-brown. also brass is harder.

    • @westelaudio943
      @westelaudio943 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's copper plated steel. Much like a penny.

  • @MarvMavro
    @MarvMavro หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up an SD1020 slim from ebay and it has the exact issue your 2020 has. The belts are all fine but I can't get the head to engage like you can.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that the head engage was controlled by a separate motor? Check there's no gear slippage and that belt in particular is tight.

  • @BG101UK
    @BG101UK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is a nice unit but I do have concerns with a premium deck having the same lack of plastic covering over the mains input section the same as the cheap units I worked on, plus I couldn't see a position on the board for a fuse-holder, which might be handy where the voltage selector part might be populated and someone set the switch in the wrong position? .. I got bitten by such exposed terminals once, when working on a CD player.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unfortunately you're right, exposed 240 is very common

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pwrestoration240 vAC is very unlikely to do you any harm at all unless you deliberately wire yourself to line and neutral. Most houses have RCDs so any leakage to ground will be stopped in less that half a cycle.

  • @paulanderson7796
    @paulanderson7796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not a dual capstan mechanism. Only one of the pair is engaged depending upon which was the tape is running.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, it has two capstans..

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pwrestorationI do understand that. But it's not a dual capstan tape mechanism. Very different from a closed loop dual capstan arrangement. Only one is engaged at any one point in time. The two are never engaged simultaneously.

  • @MrPINKFL0YD
    @MrPINKFL0YD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow that's gorgeous!

  • @motongin
    @motongin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Интересный аппарат, хотя и простенький ЛМП. Вообще маранц хорошие вещи делал. Есть сд проигрыватель маранц 90ых года, отменный аппарат, работает до сих пор, все диски читает.

  • @99solutionsit10
    @99solutionsit10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being a bit old, I can hear up to 12.5kHz (left ear) and 11kHz (right ear). My boys (22yo and 19yo) can hear up to 17-18kHz.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm due a hearing test at work and dreading it, but it would be nice to know my limit!

    • @abijeetrs6522
      @abijeetrs6522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old are you both if I may ask ?

  • @Paajtor
    @Paajtor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the issue here was dried up grease on certain spots.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely the thinner belts. A lot of the time companies will cheap out on some components and not others.. standard 2mm square drive belts seem a silly way to do it, especially when they're so essential to opening the front panel and seating the tape! 🙂

    • @Paajtor
      @Paajtor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pwrestoration I understand that...the rubber belts are an issue with every vintage deck.
      But still I think that it was a combination of loose belt, combined with a lack of proper (lithium-based) grease on parts that need to slide over each other in particular.
      Simply trying to operate the deck might have proven to be enough for the moment, but the problem could very well return when the deck is once again not used for years.
      The old grease will become sticky again.
      Glad you got it running, though!

  • @JetmanUK
    @JetmanUK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A nice and quite unique looking deck, but I always prefer black HiFi kit. I guess this would probably lose some of its charm in black though.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm with you on that one, it's wierd - silver just screams the year 2000 to me. It's kind of retro but not retro enough to be cool yet haha

  • @jacekhubert100
    @jacekhubert100 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hehe!! Front panel is made from pure plastic!! Bolts only looks like made from copper but they are pure steel. Yes looks very fancy. Have too this stuff.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's weird, mines metal!

  • @scrunts666
    @scrunts666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought this, the cd player and the amp from eBay and when it arrived it was mostly smashed.

  • @ronny332
    @ronny332 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like a tank or beauty from the outside, but from the inside its really standard. Even the cassette mechanism looks a bit after market, not from a high end deck., If it works, ok, but I have a Sony TC-KA5 and 7 ES (5 is JP voltage) and they even from the inside look special.

  • @Hanske0
    @Hanske0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, what do you use as spectrum analyzer software?
    (and with a sound card?)
    Thank you

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello I use spectroid for android

  • @robertdavis5714
    @robertdavis5714 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No extra head for auto-reverse, it just flips, crazy.

  • @georgeoflanagan6532
    @georgeoflanagan6532 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have a website.. im from ireland and also do you sell any of ur work?

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi I don't have a website but I do sell the odd thing - I have a few decks on eBay now. This marantz will go up eventually.
      www.ebay.co.uk/usr/pw.restoration

  • @themattitude
    @themattitude 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved these!

  • @dhurt8955
    @dhurt8955 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool! I have a pioneer 5 cassette tape deck I thought was the coolest until I saw this! Now I want one of these.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It might just be up for sale for a steal! If you're interested, drop me an email 👍

  • @davidschnur1520
    @davidschnur1520 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the minidisc deck from marantz for £25 from eBay. Looks exactly the same

    • @rachelgray9307
      @rachelgray9307 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've just bought the amp and a CM1040 CD/MD combo unit from a few years later with a non-functioning front panel, so I'll be on to that spring washer ASAP! I've recently got back into minidiscs, they are such a great format - crystal clear sound, and indestructible in my ragtop MG.

  • @Nick-xe7ek
    @Nick-xe7ek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a Nice pice! Great Job,!

  • @fabricehaesendonck196
    @fabricehaesendonck196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    magnificent!

  • @multishit6664
    @multishit6664 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was cool.. I have an Akai cassette console that is super cool but has a laundry list of issues. I took it apart to attempt fixing and learning something new lol.. its built like the lunar lander..so yeah It lives as a basket case now..hopefully I can get it all fixed..just going to take me a century of learning lol.

  • @darrenthompson3696
    @darrenthompson3696 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suspect by how it sounds it’s a belt or a position sensor

  • @hermanmunster3358
    @hermanmunster3358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cant you fill a tape with some royalty free music, just so we can have a listen of your finished repairs? Its a bit of an anti climax watching the video all the way through, and then not even being able to hear the finished result.
    Nice deck btw!

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Point taken, I'll do just that 👍

    • @hermanmunster3358
      @hermanmunster3358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pwrestoration Nice one 👍

  • @doggystyle1970
    @doggystyle1970 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got this and the Cd player in my attic in the original boxes. I bought mine around 2001 with bw601 speakers. I still use the speakers in my bedroom with a Yamaha but I no longer use the marantz. How much did you pay for it?

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it was £20, and to be honest even fixed and serviced fully it's in the £45-£60 ballpark. They don't bring a lot which is a suprise!

  • @jinxterx
    @jinxterx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do they use copper screws?

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marantz went through a bit of a phase by using copper chassis in their higher end stuff, more notably their Ken Ishiwata signature edition Amps and cd players. A lot of copper in there, supposed to be good for shielding / earthing etc. they used copper screws too, so just reminds me of their fancy amps.
      I have a video featuring the KI PM66 amp, wayyy back 🫶

  • @ShazeemKhan
    @ShazeemKhan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greetings, what name on eBay? Thanks mate

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same username, pw.restoration. I sell stuff here and there but get in touch if there's anything in particular you're looking for.

  • @lesgl
    @lesgl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice..talk about clean as a whistle..

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Up on eBay next weekend I think! One in one out

  • @ruantengyi
    @ruantengyi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can still use this machine by purchasing a bluetooth cassette tape and you can play any songs from your smartphone or tablet! ❤❤

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wahh not for me thanks, although I've never tried one! Maybe in 30 years I'll be servicing those instead 🦎

  • @atomatman3104
    @atomatman3104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    quick music search qms

  • @LaurentValette1234
    @LaurentValette1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This meca block is the quite the same than the Teac R-H 500 and 300 ! Good job otherwise.

  • @plesio2830
    @plesio2830 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bad I didn't hear the music

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm on it, constructive criticism actioned! 😅

  • @darrenwendell1723
    @darrenwendell1723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like a plastic box.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It looks like a plastic box.

  • @michaelmitchell8218
    @michaelmitchell8218 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    From someone who does electronics and use to repair lots of tape decks this unit is junk and cheap. One pro audio person would touch this, the deck is cheap and the electronics are basic. Also belt drive rubbish so wow and flutter is not great on this machine. Just cheap plastic rubbish inside, nothing special at all. Not better than a basic tape deck only looks from outside, but I think it looks like junk and hate to put this on an oscilloscope to see how junk it is.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So what you're saying is.. you're not a fan 😅
      If you watch the video, I do put it on a oscilloscope and and it's absolutely solid as a rock - better in many respects to a lot of higher end machines. Maybe you would be surprised!

    • @michaelmitchell8218
      @michaelmitchell8218 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pwrestoration no it’s not, the scope show you lining the heads up not wow and flutter, that’s a difference test altogether. 12.5khz is not good for a good deck, should be much higher. No I’m not a fan sorry. Company like that should have done better, shows you they lost they way in the end of the 90s.

    • @michaelturner4457
      @michaelturner4457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​​@@michaelmitchell8218the stated specs of this Marantz are actually upto 15khz for type 1 ferro tapes, and upto 19khz for type 4 metal. Which I think is pretty good. The 12.5khz was specified for checking the head alignments.
      Wow and flutter spec is 0.1%. While not the best, but is still better than any cassette deck made today. Because they all use the same cheap chinesium Tanashin clone mechs.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmitchell8218 Well, kind of. I also use the scope by watching how the two waves interact (tape path) and also watching how they raise and lower in volume (wow and flutter). I do this over a lot of tones from 400hz up to 20khz, a lot of which is off camera as to be honest it's boring to watch!
      I do have a proper W&F meter and I do use it, but I am limited in viewer retention and also what people wish to watch.
      I do agree that the quality is not as it perhaps once was with Marantz, I have a video covering one of their '7 Fonts' cassette decks. But hey, that's consumer electronics for ya!
      (Incidentally my main Amp is currently a Marantz PM6006 UK Edition and it's lovely) Xx

    • @velascoperroni
      @velascoperroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just let people enjoy things, Karen.

  • @matldn2697
    @matldn2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All these post 1991 cassette recorders have a poor head quality.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't say that's the rule!

    • @matldn2697
      @matldn2697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Head overload and distortion figures were published all those years ago.

  • @thefreestylefrEaK
    @thefreestylefrEaK 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cassettes are crummy. That makes this player crummy.

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cassettes can sound superb if you're in possession of a truly high quality cassette recorder player. I agree that the format is now deprecated but it was never bad.

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure

  • @DarthVader1977
    @DarthVader1977 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed 20231123 1:54pm.
    Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃

    • @pwrestoration
      @pwrestoration  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, my channel has gone crazy in the last week. I'm not sure if somebody shared my videos or if someone is just watching out for me but every sub is appreciated ❤️👍

  • @ninjabluewings
    @ninjabluewings 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bet that player was damn expensive back in the day