Best ground/fire crew I have ever heard ... no confusion, no problems communicating, what a great team ! Another excellent edit VAS, thanks for cranking them out !
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That is an excellent fire team. Kudos to the United pilot and co-pilot, too. ATC was perfect. What, nothing to criticize in an ATC recording? Immaculate!!
Amazing how much carnage a bird strike caused. Salute to everyone for a job well done. RED 2: Look at the size of that thing! RED LEADER: Cut the chatter, Red 2!
So what I observed from this is that the initial fire trucks 35/32 said B772 didn't have smoke or heat from the Rt engine. Then someone says the tires also look fine. After B772 starts rolling toward gate B38 all of a sudden they've got smoke from the wheels, a fuel leak, and debris/f.o.d. was found on the runway. So in the end, they had to follow the plane and hose down its tires. Should probably have just hosed the wheels down b/c they had to be hot.
While moving, they cool down from the air, so after stopping for a bit, they heated back up. Not good to rapidly cool metal parts unless you have to because of the heat stress on the metal parts as well as having to use what little water they have available. If they can use fans to cool the brakes, it's a better option than to put water on them. When they're super hot, typically planes will taxi around the airport for 5-10 minutes to cool them down.
I don’t get why they didn’t make the plane come to a full stop on the runway..the pilot really didn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the situation..that plane should not have been anywhere near a gate until it had been fully inspected by the fire and emergency guys. Everyone else here was doing an incredible job except the pilot. Lucky he didn’t incinerate everybody on board along with the grass on Bravo-7.
@@virginiaviola5097What we're hearing is a typical =possible= warm or hot brakes situation. The fire crew saw liquid condensation, which was most likely water condensation, and they wanted to just ensure that it wasn't fuel draining down onto the brakes. All aircraft brakes are extremely warm after landing, but that warm temperature is not always cause for declaring a ground emergency. Typical "hot brakes" emergencies require 1200 degree tempreatures on the brake stack. At 800 degrees, the term is "warm brakes". The fire crew would have checked the temperature of the brakes with a thermal scanner and did not indicate an issue. Moisture on the exterior of the aircraft comes from many sources, including condensation and from the environmental system (air conditioning and pressurization) of the aircraft. The fire crew member is most likely asking as a precautionary measure, yet an unsafe condition is not evident and taxiing back to parking is the best choice, as they can de-plane the passengers safely and will have cooling fans and maintenance personnel at the gate. Were a fire to break out, the gate areas also are typically plumbed in to a hydrant system, so an unlimited supply of water would be available for fire fighting operations. With the grass fires on the field, the backup trucks sounded like they were out of operation, until they refilled their tanks.
Logistically that seemed like a nightmare all around, and they did a superb job. Quick question about the runway configuration. Are runways which form a broken T (like the 16s and 25s) treated the same as crossing runways for trafficing purposes? Going around on one would I presume put you unacceptably close to potential traffic on the other? I.e. no simultaneous takeoffs/landings on the two runways?
DEN was deliberately set up like a pinwheel, so planes could land and takeoff without coming into conflict. They don't land on the 17s or 25 since the 16s or 26 would work better since you would get to the threshold sooner. The only exception is if they need to use 34L for landing if they have a plane that needs an extra long runway to land on.
Staging is putting equipment away, and looking at what needs to be replaced. If they wear the air bottles for example they will have to be replaced with full ones, and then re-charged.
Staging is pre-positioning fire equipment...engines, ambulances, personnel...in designated positions in proximity to the incident to reduce travel delays. In this case, engines were staged at different points on the runway so they could quickly access the aircraft if it stopped or crashed at any point along the runway.
just one more hard object for a plane to crash into if they go off runway... and cost... probably used once every 1o years, not worth it or the risk...
There’s no real reason to pipe water mains along or under runways (unless it makes sense for other purposes, such as a de-icing station or looping a main out to remote fuel storage tanks) Air Crash trucks carry enough water for the initial hit and the City Engines can each drop 1-2 miles of portable water main/supply line should they need an extended supply.
2:45 I'm confused. Departure/approach says that the plane is 10 miles north of Greeley (KGXY), dumping fuel. Greeley is 40 miles north of KDEN, so the plane should be about 50 miles north. But the inset map appears to show the plan well south of Denver. The orientation of the map appears to be correct, as the Rocky Mountains are west of Denver and shown to the left.
unfortunately it does look like one. Denver's airport has one of the shortest taxi distances to active runways of any airport that size - so the configuration is very efficient - but it does look like one
Yeah, brakes will be hot after coming in for the full stop, combine that with a possible fuel leakage and you have a situation which could go very bad very quickly. Hence they bring out some fans to cool the brakes down :)
alex liao aborted take offs, emergency landings and just the heat in the summer. We get gate calls all the time for hot brakes. Carbon brakes will get in excess of 400C and the tires don't like that if you leave it.
City of Denver fire would take a long time to respond, the airport is way out in the middle of nowhere. I do believe it is the largest airport in North America.
they have at least 3 maybe 5 fire stations for the airport I believe, the Navajo people were using the swastika symbol for generations before Hitler used it
Thomas Kuperus If you think about it a 'swastika' airport layout is an extremely efficient setup. You can have aircraft departing and arriving from all 4 directions and the gates in the center mean it's about equal taxi time to all runways.
also, if you look at the layout of the runways and taxiways, there are very few places where a plane would have to cross one runway to get to another. Probably helps to reduce runway incursions
Sorry the emergency ops team sounds weak and wasted air time for simple instructions. Overwhelmed with simple grass fires while a plane full of people might need full trucks. Small fire then lots of fires? No damage but now smoke and leaking fuel?? Need a new fire boss and all need more practice less donuts.
This video combines different frequencies. The comms in red are ARFF frequencies, not tower or ground. Excellent ARFF coordination for a complex incident. Great job of teamwork and professionalism all the way around by pilots, ATC, and ARFF.
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Best ground/fire crew I have ever heard ... no confusion, no problems communicating, what a great team !
Another excellent edit VAS, thanks for cranking them out !
KDEN is award winning
Yeah. I don't ever wish to be aboard an emergency aircraft, but if I am I want it to land at Denver.
and unusually clear coms. Ususally audio for them is horrible.
except for the really unnecessary split in two parts.
Part 1 video was uploaded a few hours ago. I asked for 200 LIKES to release this second part. We reached those 200 LIKES after 1 hour uploaded.... YOU DIDN'T EVEN GIVE ME TIME!!! =O =O =O
Have no words to thank you enough, guys!! You all are awesome!!!!
VASAviation - very good job, thank you.
that should have 2k likes not 200 likes
That is an excellent fire team.
Kudos to the United pilot and co-pilot, too.
ATC was perfect.
What, nothing to criticize in an ATC recording? Immaculate!!
Red 5 missed the opportunity. Was waiting for Red 5 standing by. 😩
hah, was thinking the same thing. Missed opportunity :)
John Smith red 5 was luke, Porkins was red 6
Kinda depends on how much sense of humor his boss has in this situation....
@@multikings20
Owh... that _Red 5_ from SW you meant? Ah, sorry...
I always thought _Red 5_ from an anime _Majestic Prince_ 😅
VASAviation: You guys do such a fantastic job of presenting these situations. Hats off to you and all the volunteers. Great job and thank you!
Thank you!
Amazing how much carnage a bird strike caused. Salute to everyone for a job well done. RED 2: Look at the size of that thing! RED LEADER: Cut the chatter, Red 2!
🐦 oops
The fire crew definitely earned their paycheck this day!
A Perfect example of team-work :)
sometimes people forget that not all injuries are physical, this was spooky and im just watching a video xD
So what I observed from this is that the initial fire trucks 35/32 said B772 didn't have smoke or heat from the Rt engine. Then someone says the tires also look fine. After B772 starts rolling toward gate B38 all of a sudden they've got smoke from the wheels, a fuel leak, and debris/f.o.d. was found on the runway. So in the end, they had to follow the plane and hose down its tires. Should probably have just hosed the wheels down b/c they had to be hot.
While moving, they cool down from the air, so after stopping for a bit, they heated back up. Not good to rapidly cool metal parts unless you have to because of the heat stress on the metal parts as well as having to use what little water they have available. If they can use fans to cool the brakes, it's a better option than to put water on them. When they're super hot, typically planes will taxi around the airport for 5-10 minutes to cool them down.
I'd have foamed the whole thing down and taken it from there... but that's just me being safe safe...
I don’t get why they didn’t make the plane come to a full stop on the runway..the pilot really didn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the situation..that plane should not have been anywhere near a gate until it had been fully inspected by the fire and emergency guys. Everyone else here was doing an incredible job except the pilot. Lucky he didn’t incinerate everybody on board along with the grass on Bravo-7.
@@virginiaviola5097What we're hearing is a typical =possible= warm or hot brakes situation. The fire crew saw liquid condensation, which was most likely water condensation, and they wanted to just ensure that it wasn't fuel draining down onto the brakes. All aircraft brakes are extremely warm after landing, but that warm temperature is not always cause for declaring a ground emergency. Typical "hot brakes" emergencies require 1200 degree tempreatures on the brake stack. At 800 degrees, the term is "warm brakes". The fire crew would have checked the temperature of the brakes with a thermal scanner and did not indicate an issue. Moisture on the exterior of the aircraft comes from many sources, including condensation and from the environmental system (air conditioning and pressurization) of the aircraft. The fire crew member is most likely asking as a precautionary measure, yet an unsafe condition is not evident and taxiing back to parking is the best choice, as they can de-plane the passengers safely and will have cooling fans and maintenance personnel at the gate. Were a fire to break out, the gate areas also are typically plumbed in to a hydrant system, so an unlimited supply of water would be available for fire fighting operations. With the grass fires on the field, the backup trucks sounded like they were out of operation, until they refilled their tanks.
@@Scott_Diverscott so they did the right thing? I’m confused.
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Logistically that seemed like a nightmare all around, and they did a superb job.
Quick question about the runway configuration. Are runways which form a broken T (like the 16s and 25s) treated the same as crossing runways for trafficing purposes? Going around on one would I presume put you unacceptably close to potential traffic on the other? I.e. no simultaneous takeoffs/landings on the two runways?
Yes in the "wrong" direction, but it's obviously ok to take off from 34L while someone lands 25/7 as they'll never cross each other.
@@tomhejda6450 But what if the landing aircraft goes around?
DEN was deliberately set up like a pinwheel, so planes could land and takeoff without coming into conflict. They don't land on the 17s or 25 since the 16s or 26 would work better since you would get to the threshold sooner. The only exception is if they need to use 34L for landing if they have a plane that needs an extra long runway to land on.
Great job, guys!
PART 2!!!! YEA BOOII
Is there a part three?? What was the conclusion???
what was the date/time of day on this?
Interesting how they handle both the grassfire and the emergency. Now I hear the firefighter talk about staging, what do they mean by that?
They put up staging so they can all take a bow. Why not indeed.
Staging is putting equipment away, and looking at what needs to be replaced. If they wear the air bottles for example they will have to be replaced with full ones, and then re-charged.
Staging is pre-positioning fire equipment...engines, ambulances, personnel...in designated positions in proximity to the incident to reduce travel delays. In this case, engines were staged at different points on the runway so they could quickly access the aircraft if it stopped or crashed at any point along the runway.
@@davidelse5187 Thank you for explaining!
@@andrewbarnett84 No, staging is the exact opposite: it's putting equipment that's ready to use in position before it's needed.
Why don’t they have water lines built with the runways?
just one more hard object for a plane to crash into if they go off runway... and cost... probably used once every 1o years, not worth it or the risk...
There’s no real reason to pipe water mains along or under runways (unless it makes sense for other purposes, such as a de-icing station or looping a main out to remote fuel storage tanks) Air Crash trucks carry enough water for the initial hit and the City Engines can each drop 1-2 miles of portable water main/supply line should they need an extended supply.
10:55 firetruck disappears for a moment when entering taxiway
2:45 I'm confused. Departure/approach says that the plane is 10 miles north of Greeley (KGXY), dumping fuel. Greeley is 40 miles north of KDEN, so the plane should be about 50 miles north. But the inset map appears to show the plan well south of Denver. The orientation of the map appears to be correct, as the Rocky Mountains are west of Denver and shown to the left.
It's not the current time in the inset track.
Isn't this the same callsign as the other B772 that departed from Denver with a burning engine?
I was thinking the same, it is
Cudos to the DIA and United Crews.
What date did this happen?
Guessing June because that 777 went right over my house loud as hell.
Brady Skrocki watch part 1, there is a date at the start of the video. some time in July this year I believe
June 10. It's this case probably: kdvr.com/2016/06/10/grass-fire-at-dia-possibly-connected-to-united-aircraft/
Is the airport configuration an Swastika?
unfortunately it does look like one. Denver's airport has one of the shortest taxi distances to active runways of any airport that size - so the configuration is very efficient - but it does look like one
Illuminati man lol
@@DominicciSkycam Curse you Nazis for ruining 4-way rotational symmetry
Fourth bois
Wait so they were cooling the brakes with fans? Lol never heard of it but funny to know.
Yeah, brakes will be hot after coming in for the full stop, combine that with a possible fuel leakage and you have a situation which could go very bad very quickly. Hence they bring out some fans to cool the brakes down :)
alex liao aborted take offs, emergency landings and just the heat in the summer. We get gate calls all the time for hot brakes. Carbon brakes will get in excess of 400C and the tires don't like that if you leave it.
ahhhh i see thanks!
Yes they had Egyptians with funny hairdos out there.
Sounds like this airport needs to buy a few more firetrucks! Or should have called in the city FD for assistance...
City of Denver fire would take a long time to respond, the airport is way out in the middle of nowhere. I do believe it is the largest airport in North America.
KDEN is over 20 miles out from the City of Denver, the City of Aurora would get there first if the call came
Ryan, you don't suppose the city of Aurora was named after the province in The Philippines, was it?
they have at least 3 maybe 5 fire stations for the airport I believe, the Navajo people were using the swastika symbol for generations before Hitler used it
@@Belchmaster41 no.
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Completely irrelevant to the video, but pause it at 0:33 . Anyone else noticing the shape of the airport? Why?
I can't see anything different at 0:33.
There are plenty of conspiracy theories about DEN, you've spotted one. Try a Google search for Blucifer as well as the murals.
Thomas Kuperus people say it was purposely shaped in a swastika form.
Thomas Kuperus If you think about it a 'swastika' airport layout is an extremely efficient setup. You can have aircraft departing and arriving from all 4 directions and the gates in the center mean it's about equal taxi time to all runways.
also, if you look at the layout of the runways and taxiways, there are very few places where a plane would have to cross one runway to get to another. Probably helps to reduce runway incursions
Unites 328 Heavy, cleared to land on swastica airport.
Man, KDEN really does sort of look like a swastika.
Can we take a moment to realize this airport is shaped like a swastika....
Is it me or does this airport look like a swastika?
Who's on first.
What's on first. Who's on second.
Sorry the emergency ops team sounds weak and wasted air time for simple instructions. Overwhelmed with simple grass fires while a plane full of people might need full trucks. Small fire then lots of fires? No damage but now smoke and leaking fuel?? Need a new fire boss and all need more practice less donuts.
This video combines different frequencies. The comms in red are ARFF frequencies, not tower or ground. Excellent ARFF coordination for a complex incident. Great job of teamwork and professionalism all the way around by pilots, ATC, and ARFF.