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If you want to see who's fault it really is, look at the cam sensor position change between when it leaves tommy's shop and then the position after the tuner reshoots "base timing" (6:46) in dustin's video. It's clearly oversight by the tuner because he maxed out the sensor in its throw to compensate for the real problem.
This should be the top comment. Says it all
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yall can see clearly the cam sensor positioning in the last Dustin video at CT when he took the 32 back to the trailer (17:55) and (6:46) on his dyno video, definitely not changed in Tommy’s shop
RIP. Better things to come!
Keep up that positive mindset Dustin. Minor set back, plus just think about that big ass Legends shop you're building! Epic.
Dude I was sooo bummed for you! I'm dying to see an Fyeah spec GTR ripping a track in the wild...... Sounded so sick too....
It’s all good brotha build, break, repeat. Considering it’s a track car, might as well buy another short block after you get this one running.
I’ll trade you a l28 for the blown rb 👀
Karma
Jimmy makes a good point, he set timing as best he could to get it on the trailer. Then all the starting and revving and all that prolly made the cam gear lose and by the time the tuner got it the timing was way off. That should of been a huge red flag to the tuner. but he just adjusted it in the ECU.
It's your fault
Yeah Dustin was revving the shit outta the motor outside of Tommy’s shop
Preach 🙏🏽
@@i-_-am-_-g1467 no it's your fault...
Tuner should be doing a once over on car before tuning it - always check the state of the vehicle before doing anything
Just gonna repeat what I said last night, it was dumb to build this in a week, the car ended up sitting at Dustins shop for another month he should’ve left there with you until it got done
It was the tuner fault
It's your fault
@@i-_-am-_-g1467 it’s your fault
@@russchamberlain536 no u
🙏🏽 can’t rush perfection
Dustin: Gonna absolutely send it
Tuner: *Sends bolts flying*
Edit: it's all jokes. No disrespect towards Dustin. I've blew up the RB in my 33 GTR. Its a shit go. Literally sums up JDM ownership. Save money, spend money and time just to blow it tf up, sounds like another monday. Or cops come and defect your ass feelsbadman
U funny 😆
GOLD!
I expected an oil pump but he got off lucky with a can gear I guess
It’s car performance car ownership. Shit blows up, luckily I’ve never had a engine I had a lot of money into let go but it’s always one pull away…
I actually really enjoyed listening to that phone call. Not the type of content I was expecting, but it kinda felt like a podcast haha.
It's your fault
@@i-_-am-_-g1467 what is
Fyeah spec podcast?
What he said ^^^
I was actually great information for others planning a vcam build.
This would never had happened if adjustable wrenches were used in the build of this engine, just ask Chris or will.
Shoulda jb welded them.
This is gold lmao
I wanna like your comment but then it won’t be at 69 anymore
Exactly! They would have broke a bolt off or stripped something during assembly/ disassembly and it wouldn't be together to detonate. Would still be a good engine, just not running XD
hahahah
Tuners fault for sure, you handled it very well. And did warn him about the adjustable cam gears, and you guys were not the last one to fuck with it
*IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!* _BUY HIM A NEW CAR RIGHT NOW!_ or else
welp we heard it here first folks
Clout chaser
Fr tho
Shut up
You money shifted Tommy’s evo, nice job
“We can do it twice as fast and miss half as many bolts”
-TommyFyeah
I about fell out of the chair when he said that. 😂
Who would've known react videos from Tommy would be this enjoyable
It's your fault
I would've been a better video if it was made after he saw the post Whistlindiesel made 30 minutes ago🤣
Yeah, but if he could only let other knowledgeable people to finish one damn sentence..
Can we have a weekly reaction video from Tommy? It could be able anything
Shop: tells customer you dont need X part
customer: does it anyway
Tuner: fiddles with timing
Engine: imma head out
customer: :O
too many hands in the pot for a 6 day build
Stupid to have anything to do with a dustin williams build tbh, doesn't seem to take advice. If it were my shop I wouldn't have touched it, or let it leave. This is why real GTR shops charge what they charge.
This video shows so much character because of the way everything is explained. Tommy doesn't have respect for many people, but for the ones he does, you can really actually see it. The editing in this video is also done very well with the inserts from Dustin's video (for the people who haven't seen it yet) and makes it so he really doesn't even have to like "defend himself" even though the facts do.
Soy sauce?
@@liammoodyfilms 😂
@@liammoodyfilms only if your making some rice
@@JB-sv5pr nah bro Maggi is wayyyyy better than soy sauce, if you haven’t tried it do it
So you’re telling me that the tuner received a car that they were told was timed, knew the car had adjustable timing components, and didn’t check the tightness of aforementioned components after finding out timing was off… lol
Sums it up perfectly
hard to find good tuners i guess....
you need people like jack or pfi for tunes....
Why on earth would you take a freshly assembled engine, that was running, see it was "out of time" and continue screwing with it when it would have already had base timing on it. Wouldn't that be an indicator of an issue and to recheck everything before proceeding?
It's your fault
THIS!
Dustin probably told him that they didn’t set base timing out of an assumption since he doesn’t understand what jimmy was doing
@@CBlakley98 A professional should never go based off of an assumption and always double check
Yeah I’m confused on how they knew it was out of time. But never set it correctly?
If there was enough detonation to burn the valves/piston, it definitely did not happen in one pull on the dyno...
@@minibikemadman I mean alot of people tune of 91 ...
absolutely 100% correct. dude who knows. it could honestly just be a shit fuel situation, they are in california, maybe it wasn’t actually 91. who knows.
in my experience with high compression 2 stroke jetskis and dirt bikes you can hear the pinging (detonation) long before they go boom. there’s no way in hell it did all of that in one pull
@@gta4327 I agree, but this was supposed to be a track car. Not sure why he didn't use at least E85
A dyno and an in-house tuner would be the next big move!
They’d get noise complaints like crazy from the Karen’s if they had a dyno lol
@@JonAli413 doesn't matter. It's all up to the local laws. My town doesn't give a shit unless it's after sun set.
Long story short:
Tommy’s getting a dyno and a badass tuner.
Hiring jack in the box
Easier said than done finding good tuners
Or go into business with Jimmy as the tuner
yup, no more problems.. cause now they gotta handle other people fuck up...
so hire a tuner and a dyno so if there is a problem they know who the blame
Had this happen myself before. Cam bolt loosening over a short time and smashed a chunk off the cylinder head.
The loose bolts definitely didn't help here but the tuner not noticing something was a miss dildo'd the engine.
lol OGs remember what it's like when an engine gets dildo'd
From what I heard, Jimmy only did enough to get the car running onto the trailer, they would have known this and should have re-timed it properly. I don't know why you would knowingly send it on the dyno with incorrect timing. Tommy/Jimmy/Josh didn't do anything wrong here. On top of that the car sat for another month at Dustin's shop, he had no reason not to let Tommy finish the car on his own time.
Ok but what about the bolts coming loose in the first place?… who’s fault?
You don't really know what you're saying? Didn't Jimmy say he set timing before the car left the shop. Even so, you can easily send a car to dyno with incorrect timing with the excitation the tuner will fix timing before doing any serious pulls.
Nobody should ever install a Campbelt without torque checking the timing gears . And every tuner would expect this to of been done by the installer
Was a matter of time before something like this happened. I think people can see that Tommy and Josh know what they're doing and take pride in their work. WhistlinDiesel grinnin right now though
Scumberto too lol. Tommy is too cocky
Whistlin Diesel has that troll grin regardless. Born to Troll
@@sandygill8440 you need to see sammits post about scumberto complaing about link ecu's/trigger system. He litterally has no idea what hes talking about, if anything hes the cocky one, he fucked rudniks gtr, screwed jack over when he probaly did so much behind the scenes to help him and he acts like he actually knows shit. Tommy has a right to act the way he does it's not being cocky it's confidence, confidence in Josh and the work that shop produces. Tommy does not fuck around
WD is just the biggest POS on this Planet, together with some dumb politics..
@@CartaIV when was sammits post? i wanna go see it
I like Dustin and hope he gets this sorted.
I don't think for one second that this is Josh or Jimmy O fault.
It's your fault
@@i-_-am-_-g1467 I was hoping you wouldn't notice
23:45 🤣🤣🤣
@@mikebanks6704 Yeah but you gotta take into consideration that he is running a business and doesn’t want people spreading misinformation and ruin his reputation and lose business over it.
Someone must’ve slipped him some faulty coil packs…
It's your fault
Scumberto has never financially recovered 😂 “ you fucked it “
Real original
@@716tg3 He has and then some lol has his own shop and they are pretty busy
That engine was getting dildoed 😂
Didn't the other guy in California, "Fix," the timing. It's not on you guys. It's on the tuner.
Yes when Dustin and all them left the dyno shop and came back the tuner and done “Timing” so there is really no telling what he could have done.
Let’s be real he can afford a HKS engine setup anyways
It's your fault
My question is Dustin made it sound like such a rush to finish the car, even though he had it for a couple years prior. Rushes Tommy and Josh to finish it, then it sits for a couple weeks back in CA. Why not just leave the car with Tommy to get it properly done and then have it shipped back. I’m sure if Josh had a legitimate amount of time on this car he would have went through everything and caught this and fixed it. Or worst case I’m sure josh would have heard that on the dyno, and fixed it before it broke. Also full trust in Jimmy with tuning, he’s tuned lots of cars and never seen this happen before
josh and Tommy wasn't at the dyno. I agree it's a shame Jimmy doesn't have a awd dyno, only way around that is if Tommy gets a dyno and gets Jimmy to tune all in house🤷♂️
Agree. It was an intense 6 days then a rather long pause. Dustin could have actually made a good series by leaving it up there abd then having Jimmy tune it for cross channel content - after awd dy o might be the issue. I'm dure there's one around close by. Who knows but it's looking like an RB28 is on its way 👍
Because he had to do a stupid tyre display. TH-cam fame getting to him
@@PockoRC No need for AWD dyno as long as they disconnect the 4WD.
@@wd8005 yeah just a load of hassle
I really wanna hear Dustins gods honest truth as to how he feels about what happened. Not trying to save face and not hurt feelings. He had to know that tuner seemed like a hack job right, or am I the only one that feels that way?
We’ll never hear his real opinion
“We can do it twice as fast and miss twice as many bolts” haha
At the end of the day, I am happy to see you and Dustin FaceTiming and in good terms. I hope he is serious about coming back to your shop and getting a new engine. I’d again watch and like every video y’all make together
A good tuner will check all timing parts if possible in a new build, a good tuner will watch for timing trigger when doing a pull, a good tuner will do an eye over of the engine between pulls. So this could have been caught easily.
A tuner shouldn't have to worry about mechanical issues. You bring the tuner a sorted car ready to tune and he does his job. A good tuner however, should know when something isn't happy and is inconsistent which should raise a red flag that something needs to be done and that he needs to stop before something catastrophic happens..
@@Rctreadaway Tuner should be doing a once over before doing anything. Always check, never assume.
Engine builders should torque every bolt!
380whp doesn't sound like a lot until you account for the massively fucked cam timing killing the engine's efficiency. ALSO, if the car didn't stop running when they damaged the crank position sensor, it's possible that the tuner was running just off of the cam sensor. With the cam gear freely changing position, the ignition timing would've advanced /even further/ relative to the crank.
You ever been in a 380BHP car? It's fast as fuck
Bingo. The tuner wasn't seeing a sync error because the crank sensor was damaged. Ignition timing was triggered by the ever-moving cam timing and melted the pistons. Is there a chance Josh didn't torque the cam bolts? Maybe, but it's irrelevant. The tuner ignored a series of red flags and went for power pulls anyway.
@@Frostyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy it's fast, yeah. My point is that it's not mechanically overloading any part of that setup.
@@thejo6331 yeah you're bang on the money there bro for sure!
@@Frostyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy meh its quick. Wouldnt say 380 is fast as fuck tho
Gotta love how Tommy isn't saying anything specific but we know what he's saying lol
He's just asking questions
He's saying the tuner fucked up big time
@@minibikemadman Tuner gave me bad vibes throughout the whole video, seemed a bit arrogant. Their shop was an absolute shithole as well, I would've driven in and driven straight back out
@@cooolsimon282 driven in and pushed out
Sounds like the bolts came loose overtime, and the tuner was (unknowingly?) Tuning and compensating for the "phasing" of the loose cam gear as it was backing out and failing, leading to this disaster:( Just a theory
This is definitely what happened
Pretty sure this is what happened tbh
💯
This is definitely exactly what happened. Like Eric said over the phone, just get out and check base timing and the gears. If you have to keep compensating the timing, then there's something wrong with the timing lmao.
yep, the phone call at the end towards the end of it is very likely right
Been waiting all damn day for this lol
Hey be careful! Scumberto is on that topic, too 😂😂😂
whos that😂🤷♂️
@@PockoRC a choch
After this situation I wouldnt touch that car with a 10ft pole to much bad stigma now. People r now blaming each other
Damn it won’t play
tommy is good at what he does. especially clearing the air and farming some views at the same time. literal gtr god.
He's not a GTR God lmao..
@@VincentViolence but do gods really exist. Or are they just subjective
My comment on Dustin's video " yu wanted tht DAMN BLUE!!"
Base Timing right when Jimmy set , when went to dyno timing out as cams probally had moved . He changed base timing and melted it . All down to loose cam gears to be fair
In my opinion whether it was Jimmy's fault or Josh's fault, which I don't believe either of those is the case, the tuner should've at LEAST had a suspicion that it was acting weird. The fact of the matter is that whoever was tuning the car should've caught the problem before making 15 pulls... Even if somebody didn't tighten the cam gears or whatever, the tuner should've noticed that problem and stopped. Jimmy set the base timing and got it running fine. They definitely started loosening up after it was out of your hands with whatever driving they did. You guys were on a strict timeline, probably induced by Dustin, and you told him not to use the cam gears so.
Point blank, someone failed to make sure the bolts in the brand new gears were tight. You ALWAYS check those bolts and make sure they're tight.
i’m the phone call with up garage he explains if those bolts come loose they can only rotate 30° and won’t contact the pistons
Literally. I self tune and I blue loctited those fuckers at 0,0 before I even started the car after the cam install. IYKYK
@@trentschnell7225 ah, that's OK then let's leave them loose . Haha.
@@trentschnell7225 They didn't just come loose, they completely fell out!, the change in timing could be enough to lean the engine out momentarily, or change ignition timing enough to cause ping. The cam gear being out of whack might have changed the cam position signal to give a false reading. There are so many variables it's hard to tell what exactly happened.
I don't think it was Tommy or Jimmy's fault, because the job was extremely rushed in a week and most builds take months to years. I think that Dustin should've left the car with Tommy until the bugs were all worked out and Tommy and Josh got a chance to double check their work. Plus a lot of people had their hands on that car since Dustin got it for the 1st time. So there is no way it is Tommy or Jimmy's fault.
Cool to see you guys talking to Eric. They built my r32 with step 1 vcam and it runs beautifully. Awesome guys. Sad this is the scenario in which he has to be introduced to the channel. I could only imagine how Dustin feels.
So many people has told me to never tuned my car at 5150 racing! The amount of many blow engines they have done 🤦🏻♂️ I thought this shit would of happened the moment I saw where that car was!!!
Informative video.
Lessons learned
Greddy adjustable cam bolts ain’t tight out the box - should of been checked
Base timing was set and fine, high revving before finished would of loosened above cam bolts
Enter the new tuner, has to mess about with base ignition timing as the above bolts have probably already wiggled loose.
Tuner continues without noticing cam timing issue and has some considerable ign advance on top of the cam then freaking out causing severe det.
Video certainly making me double check cam timing bolts on all aftermarket cam gears
Based on everything said the tuner was the one that should have caught the issue on the cam gears but whatever I guess they need to sort this out! Don't want to point any fingers but the last one to touch is the one responsible! Sorry!
It's your fault
Over the last 6-12 months I've stopped watching around a dozen automotive hack-tubers because there hack jobs don't deserve my time. This channel is one of the few places left I can get quality and wholesome automotive content. Keep up the good work guys!!
Also to mention that the hack-tubers make money from running ads and therefore the more hack videos they put up the more they make... F-Yeah make real world money because they have a valuable product to sell that real people with real cars and real lives will actually pay for... no hackery required!
Great video. Clarified a lot for me. Jimmy’s attitude about it all is also suuuper mature. I like him.
This is why before I ever tune a customer's car I always check timing, especially tensioner condition/check timing belt tension and how tight the cam gear bolts if they aren't OEM I always use blue loctite on the bolts.
Always check spark plugs no matter what the customer says is in the car, check base ignition timing in the ecu.
Manually check wastegate function and routing of solenoid lines.
These are all very basic checks same as checking oil level and so forth before an initial run up on the dyno.
This was such a good response on what's going on. This definitely is exactly what needed to happen. De bunk what's being said get down to what could of actually happened, clear up all the bullshit. Get to the bottom of it without just pointing fingers and talking shit. Huge props to tommy for how he handles business getting right to the bottom of it.
people pointing fingers at each others are the last thing you want when an issue pops up, if they want they could discuss it together and see what cause the problem, what could be done to fix it and how to avoid it occurring again. We all love cars, let's just keep the community positive.
Man, this is turning into a shit show. This is where the internet/social media proves it's an absolute dumpster fire. Accidents happen. No one should be looking to place blame.
If you've got both the crank and cam PRP trigger kit, I'm surprised that the ECU didn't cut the engine right when one trigger signal wasn't found. On my haltech elite 2500, when a timing backplate bolt backed out and fell into my belt area and tore the belt up, the moment the ECU didn't find the trigger home for the cam, the engine immediately shut off and threw a code. The base timing thing is really throwing me off and honestly making that little power at 14psi should have been a red flag for any tuner. At 15psi I was making 420 at the wheel before optimizations and adjustments. Ended up with 480awhp at 17psi. Best of luck to Dustin.
We need to hear his tuners perspective on this.
I realized while watching that video right before he took the full pull he seemed uncertain ‘we’ll give it a try’ seemed like he was chasing something because all the pulls prior were half throttle.
Absolutely should have been re timed. I have seen this happen before actually twice when timing was the key factor in the motor blowing. It should have been noticed by tuner in first 3/4 pulls.
So since the person tuning it, wasn’t involved with the build and the initial start, why didn’t they check over the car (in terms of base timing etc) for their own safety?
every shop is different.. i think people get too use to seeing youtuber tuners where they'll go the extra mile checking everything because it's good content.. most shops expect the vehicle owner to have done the work before showing up. it's also likely he had little to no experience with that setup and probably didn't think to check it possibly because either dustin or some one else told them it was set properly if/when he asked. end of the day shit happens, learn from it and move on.
Everyone is freaking out like Dustin doesn’t have the money to fix it 😂 if this was some random customer who drives a 20012 Maxima during the week, and has one R32 project car, and calls Tommy from his cubicle, then this would actually be a sad incident.
He is selling his s13 now to fund the gtr
@@jeffdelosreyes2134 oh wow so sad.. he has to sell the cheapest car out of all 69 cars that he owns.. I guess all his money is tied up in that dream garage he just built.. so sad..
@@zodspeed yeah man hahaha 😂
Exactly right. Also how much "content" will he be able to put out because of this failure? No one really knows his financial position though, yes he has a shit load of cars but how many does he actually own? Does he own a house, and paying a bank isn't owning it. Everything we see would be a business expense.
@@zaksuzuki he payed for the house and shop in cash lol. Nice way to think you know it all...youtube at his level pays SOOOOO much more than you owuld ever think. I have a buddy thats similar in size and views and he could buy a brand new 120k GT-R every 2 months easily!
The prp timing kit wouldnt work at all on my car. Turned the smoothing on entirely just to get the car to start but no matter where the wire was ran it was having interference issues. We ended up buying new stainless sensors and rebuilding the kit. It works great now and ive been told theyve fixed this issue but worth noting. Stock cas worked great for 500hp but turned it up and revved it to the moon so needed a better trigger set up.
This build was rushed by Dustin when it didn’t need to be, in addition to Dustin being way too trusting of people in the car world. It’s a shady ass industry with people who won’t think twice about fucking you over.
Edit: Also the guys at U.P. Garage are absolutely top class. Love those guys. They made my GTR perfect after I was given an undriveable expensive box of parts from another shop. Should have went to them from the get go.
I truly don't think it was rushed. He drove it across the country to have it done right. That's not rushed at all.
@@Scirollo it definitely was rushed
@@Scirollo And he subsequently told Tommy and co. he needed it done in 6 days for no real reason. That is rushed.
@@Scirollo across the country sure but he gave them less time than it probably took him to get home 6 days is nothing, and for absolutely no reason which is the real killer 😂
Very true the car could of stayed with tommy and he could of came back for it at a later time…. I was thinking that while watching the actual videos
Love how this turned out , jimmy was spot on “ spider man meme” ❤️😂🤣
can you help Chris finish the sunny?
Please.
We wana see that shit rip
It's your fault
@@i-_-am-_-g1467 your mom's fault..
@@interloperdrones1172 just imagine the colorado as sunny
Too busy buying junk e30s
Tommy as a professional RB shop, You all should cover your asses with great work. A checklist should always be in play to CYOA!. It should be stressed to every customer. Nobody is perfect, we should always check each other. Mad respect to you and you guys.
Fuck everything. Do you think Dustin would be asking on FaceTime when Tommy can do it if he thought his shop fucked it up 😂
LOVE watching people who know shit discuss and think about shit. Pooling the brain trust, remaining as unbiased as possible, very satisfying to watch.
So early the video won’t play
U.P. Garage from my neck of the woods!! The shop has a genuine LOVE of motorsports and all things Nissan. Also the dope ass sweatshirt Tommy always wears and is MINT is from U.P. Garage :D
Seems like even if something was loose or Jimmy’s timing was off the tuner changed timing and should have seen something off pretty quick.
Was only a tune to get on the trailer but still 2step/limi banged the shit out of it in the car park
Cam bolts were loose the whole time. It probably was correct when jimmy set it to the timing because it didn't have a chance to rotate and go out of time yet. Dustin drove the car a little bit and from the time it left CT to the time it went to the tuners, the exhaust cam gear rotated from the loose bolts and went out of time. That's why the tuner had to compensate with the software timing. Bolts were still loose the whole time and once pushed it, it backed out all the way and the engine went boom. This happened over a period of time caused by those loose bolts. What's hard to understand what happened here?
well you weren’t there, and haven’t worked on a skyline in your life, so how do you know what happened? you can only assume things. realistically nobody knows for certain what happened. like tom said, too many cooks in the kitchen
Don't need to be there to realize how a bolt backs out and how a car goes from being timed to being all over the place. Especially with bolts on the ground after a pull. But kiss tommy's ass more.
@@camerontrail7281 this is literally what Tommy and the dude from U.P garage said happened in the video, too .. what's there to question? Cam bolts came to Tommy finger tight, they didn't check them because they were already installed, the rest is history. Blame could definitely still rest upon the final tuner too though; why didn't he check the actual cam bolts once he noticed timing was off? Why did he keep doing 7/8+k RPM pulls when he noticed power was down, after completely redoing timing himself, etc.
From what I've learned you are meant to torque the cam gear adjustment bolts and paint mark them, so you can visibly see if they are backing off because the paint marks will not line up.
“Here we go” ~ Joe Rogan
Pretty sure I remember Dustin reving the nuts off it when you originally got it going? I would have zero confidence in how he's treated it since leaving. Also didn't the tuner have a knock box? If he did which he should have he should have heard it start rattling.
He 100% banged it off the limiter to everyone he showed it too when he got home.
@@Forcefed2002 Limiter was set at 4000 I think?
I had an Integra with adjustable AEM cam gears on it. It ran fine with them installed for several years. Then one day my brother borrowed the car and brought it back running extremely rough. It didn't want to restart after it was parked. He swore that he was driving it normal when it happened suddenly just a mile or two from the house on his way back. We eventually discovered the bolts on both adjustable cam gears had loosened and maxed out in one direction. Fortunately it was not a turbo engine and resetting them and retorquing everything fixed it. I've always been paranoid about adjustable cam gears ever since.
Having to change the base timing after it’s been set. Should have made the turner take the front cover to check the kit
The last 20 seconds summed up the vid I feel .what’s happens when a outsider visits the crew . to the east coast crew 👊🏼. The 🖤 you show each other’s channels is legit and why I follow you’s . Again respect from Austin Texas 💯
Does Tommy do podcasts? Because damn I'd listen to him, Jimmy, Adam, Ruddy, and Jack all sit around and talk about just anything.
P.S. go watch ANY PFIspeed tuning video. The first step, EVERY time is check/sync timing
Cant they just ask the tuner if he adjusted the cam gears when attempting to resolve what they thought was a base timing issue? Seems like that is ultimately the issue that caused the failure. Cam timing can absolutely sky rocket cylinder pressures and damage things. Wouldn't the hall sensor have been damaged with the belt and gears pushed out away from the head?
I have a feeling Tommy’s right about the tuner chasing a timing issue and not being open about it, mechanical issues don’t just all of a sudden happen unless they’re catastrophic, the bolts would’ve been sheered if it was all of a sudden
7:02 He's talking about Chirs Ricermiata
correct i said dustin by accident
"I'm not gonna blame the tuner like Josh did, but it's funny that Josh did" Lmfao
Sorry for Dustin. Was brilliant to see this analysed in depth.
It most likely bent the valves...just think that's changing when the valves open and close. The leak down test failure could just be the valves no longer sealing anymore. They need to pull the head
I bet the whole time Dustin was shopping for seats his tuner was chasing a timing issue. Prolly thought they figured it out
It’s my Birthday today. This honestly has to be the best gift I will get all year!! 34 and ready for the drama.💯🤘😎
Happy birthday bud
So the tuner fucked up? He kept doing pulls with a lean tune and melted the piston.
The loose cam was part of the issue but not the reason for the failure.
The tuner kept making pulls with a moving timing reference, so the ignition timing melted the piston.
@@weedshoes5089 without a crank position sensor read too
If the builder torqued his bolts then it would also not of happened either.... I say 50/50
Hey Tom, I do restorations of classic cars and I know the feeling of being blamed by small accidents in work, I once had a customer complain about an issue in a paint job where the metallic flakes were not laying correct in a tiny spot of the door. The car in question is a citroen CX that had BIG bumper trim on the middle of the door, where the flakes were ''to ugly to show''. Which it would not show anyhow because of the said trim.
The customer dragged my name through the dirt, and made everything hell and I was called by other customers being afraid of shotty work. After he dragged me he installed the trim, took it to a car show in Norway and won prizes for both the paint job and car in general. People sometimes react strongly, it's a passion, it's understandable. But i completely understand that oh shit feeling when it first pops up. Glad everyone made up and ended it all with smiles.
Fun fact: He paid 1/4th of what a normal shop takes for a full restoration due to him being a long time friend of the family. It still sucked ass though....
Imagine the car was built with all those parts Dustin had already bought.
Been waiting for this video since I saw he posted those pics on Facebook a few days ago
Dude was hot lapping that shit
This is actually really awesome to get this many points of view on one topic - keep this kind of format going!
The car went full Rudnick.
Let’s not forget the fact that he did take the car for a drive down the street days before he got it tuned anyways
Watched a 1 minute ad for a broken video
The JDMgatekeeper is doing damage control after the public witnesses that not all that glitters is gold.
Good job. I think the entire future of your shop hinged on how you chose to respond.
not even lmao, these comments prove that
my gears came loose and they worked all the way loose on the dyno but head was all good. just took off rocker cover and tightened. sr20det
This mad liability shit has me thinking stock up on those paint markers for marking torqued bolts.
Plus it is good habit anyway.
i respect tommy for this , stood on what he did with receipts too , like the input from the other mechanics as well very educational, and yes this is about helping dut