Magyars overview (AoE2) - updated for 2023!
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1:30 Team bonus
2:15 Villagers kill wolves in 1 strike
3:05 Scout line -15% cost
3:50 Free melee attack upgrades
6:15 Magyar Huszar
9:20 Unique Techs
TECH TREE
10:50 Archers A-
11:12 Infantry B
11:35 Cavalry A
12:13 Siege B
12:22 Navy C-/B
13:02 Monks C+
13:22 Defenses C
13:45 Trash units A+
14:20 Strategies and final thoughts
15:25 Sponsor
Previous Magyar overview from 2015: • Magyars Overview AoE2
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For anyone wondering, Magyars haven't received any changes in the latest Public Update Preview. They don't get the new Gambesons infantry tech (+1 militia-line pierce armor) either. So this vid is still accurate.
So that update hasn't been released yet right?
Sad.
😮😅4O87😮
@@woodrew5415 It's currently available via the Public Update Preview aka the beta. Any changes that pass that will be added to the regular game at the end of the PUP.
They should’ve taken down the wings from magyar huszar though
it is so funny, nearly every time when sotl makes a video about a civilizaition, i have suddenly a strong urge to play them
As a Magyar, I applaud your effort to pronounce the letter gy :) Thanks, SoTL!
First person from North America Ive ever heard say the "gy" right
Same, but then he made a hungry joke, so I unsubbed.
btw, bojler eladó!
@@brandonlunguy4446 As an Australian, it irritates me when I hear North Americans pronounce the AUS in Australia or Aussie, as Ows like Auschwitz.
Stop trying to pronounce the U guys, especially with a 'ow' sound. "a-stralia" or "o-stralia" are both fine. For 'Aussie', we only pronounce it Ozzie, just like Osbourne.
@@TheChristopherJack Owstralia outback
@@TheChristopherJack you have balls to be irritated about anyone's English pronunciation with the sacrilege that Macca's is. 😒
Saracens + magyars.
One of the best archer rush combo.
Their buildings look very nice
Thank you , we like our architeture too. Good health to you!
Too much style score, they need a nerf, too op
@George Judge but they don't even have architecture
This is why I love to play aoe 2 like sim city rather than competitive ones
Yes i am quite pleased with their aesthetic, too.
The only thing that keeps bothering me as a Hungarian is, they renamed Mercenaries to Corvinian Army. Mercenaries referred to us working for other states during the Adventuring era. That's why it removes the magyar hussar's gold cost - it's meant to reflect it paying for itself. The Black Army was made up of foreign infantry and expensive as hell.
I think the idea is your paying a but upfront sum for the mercenary company
@@raynightshade8317 that doesn't track at all. To begin with, we used to have some of the best cavalry in the world. Even if there Is a point in history where we just paid off... what, some foreign guys to ride in Our colors? Or had to pay off our own higher class people to fight in a war when that used to be their whole job? How is either of those Our unique tech? We certainly wouldn't be proud of it. It would be in really poor taste to put that into a game faction based on us.
@@raynightshade8317 Also, Forgotten Empires was developed in big part by Hungarians. I'mma take a big guess they didn't flunk history in primary school. I learned about the Adventuring era in third grade. It's probably That, as opposed to whatever obscura your idea might match.
so this infantry mercenary dudes would be better as other unique unit (maybe unique upgrade to halbeldier or champion) than as unique tech?
3:44 "make you soldier a little Hungary" that joke make me laugh harder than I should
Ba dum tsss
Super eagerly waiting for your in-depth analysis on last nights mega-update :)
lol he just got so much more stuff to talk about. Time to remake all the civ overview vids :D
@@tiestofalljays Well in this case Magyars haven't received any changes in the latest Public Update Preview. They don't get the new Gambesons infantry tech (+1 militia-line pierce armor) either. So this vid is still accurate.
Ah Magyars, probably the favourite civ of anyone loving mounted units. For me as a pleb playing the AI often, they're one of the civs that always make me happy when I randomly get them!
They have that ultimate combo of FU Paladins and FU+ Cav Archers 🤤
Oh, also REALLY looking forward to Spirit's overview of the new huge upcoming release. I'm actually avoiding reading about it until he launches his overview, hopefully soon 😁
3:47 You had to sneak in that hungry pun! 😁
I like that so many civ overviews now start with "The [civ] is known as a [inf/cav/archer/etc.] civ, but as we'll see, they can also do [strategy]". It's such a familiar routine by now
Can't wait for him to revisit Celts with ""Celts is known as an infantry+siege civ, but as we'll see, they can also do HCA+Hussar or Paladin" 🤣
I'll agree with that. All the best and most well-rounded civs have a complimentary unit of some kind. Japanese have infantry, but got a buff to cav archers. Teutons are infantry, but have great knights and are A+ with monks. Turks have gunpowder, but easy access to light cav. Romans and Celts got the whole infantry backed by Scorpions deal. Italians got the Genoese crossbows and cheaper gunpowder, but also Condos. Mongol... well, we all know the Mangudai+Hussar deathball backed by speedy siege, plus the Lancer rush.
Hoping the next updated one would be on the Persians, i think they deserve it given how long ago the old overview was. Plus, we get to hear more Elephant facts!
You predicted it 😂
Magyar's are one of my favourite civ to play along with Lithuanians :)
Same for me, those two!
Gawd I love your videos. Even though I'm not an active player anymore, (thanks a lot, corporate life), but I still find time to regularly check contents made by you and T90. Take love from India, bro. 🖤
Congrats on the sponsorship! glad to see your content recognised
3:46 I see what you did there 😂😂😂😂
I think Magyar+Mongol is the perfect anti-siege-but-scared-of-camels team
Your intro sequence gives me such a nice nostalgic feeling. Thanks for the content!
We need an analysis of whether the play rate of a civ increases right after it being covered by SOTL
I think that is pretty likely but probably only by a modest amount
@@dj_koen1265 as long as it is statistically significant, I’m here for it!!
I didn't know how beatiful their wonder looks like! Even being taught visuals in sotl videos ... nice!
What timing! We just got mega update last night!
I know right. Luckily Magyars weren't even touched!
@@SpiritOfTheLaw indeed. Though with 70 changes i get the feeling this will be quite the upcoming video.
What updated?
@@isaaccutlip5815 check out Ornlu the Wolf.
@@SpiritOfTheLaw they never touch them. Ever since their buff in 2017 (5/6 years ago) the dev team has refused to address this civ's remaining weaknesses (no eco bonus and worst siege in game).
I know people will say they don't need a buff and that they're fine but if you remember they said the same thing before their last buff. Even you made a quip in your 2018 Magyar video overview. Something about Magyar mafia getting to the devs. Consider how ridiculous that sounds now, they were one of the worst civs and people said they're fine.
They're still not fine, the game is too eco bonus dependent and if Magyars aren't given one, then at least they can address their terrible siege which IMO is the worst in game. No other civ in the game lacks one of these 3:
1. bombard cannon
2. Siege Ram
3. Bonus to siege/treb
Look it up. Civs much stronger than Magyars in the early game and late game have access to better siege. How is that fine? Either give them siege ram or bombard cannon. I'd prefer bombard cannon to make it more historically accurate.
People will of course say that their late game is already too powerful and that may be, but consider how rarely they get to it. It's a theoretical late-game we only really see in death match lol. At least with bombard cannon they can perform better on closed maps such as Arena or BF.
Hope to see a video from you of the PUP patch. The new Gambesons tech (Militia line gets +1 pierce armor; requires Supplies) sounds very interesting.
13:30 I think you should have included the magyar huszars in the defense rating. Enemies can't siege you if they doesn't have siege weapons!
You are singlehandely making me want to play DE again.
THE DANCING VILLAGER IS BACK! ❤
That made my day... and i saved a cat from inside of a swamp cooler just before this.
Thank you, whoever is responsible for that! 😘
congrats on the new cat?
@@youmukonpaku3168 Lol, thanks but no thanks. It took off. My dog chased it away. And it was perfectly healthy, so it was probably someone else's pet.
I think their team bonus affects archers because Magyars are focused on light cavalry, so at least price-wise they would pair well with something very gold-focused like the archer line. Probably not really the best play, but you can see how they would fit together at least on the surface
3:45 Well played, good sir. Good on you for sneaking that pun in there.
11:55 It took seeing such a blown-up image of the unit for me to realize the Magyar Huszar has a Tom Selleck mustache!
Magyar P.I., my favorite show from the 80's.
and TC is important for both Magyars and Magnum!
3:45 "feeling a little Hungary" very clever, SotL!
Great video as always! 👍
Spirit's various side-hustles are my favourite.
Spirit of the LOL :'D
Hey spirit of the law, love your videos. I've only watched 3 or 4 dozen so far. Definitely saw a lot of my favorite civs first, also all you're big basics videos for new players.
I was curious if you'd consider a top 5 monk civilizations video, or if there aren't enough, who accels the best with a monk oriented army.
I saw your videos on byzantine monks, also you mentioned them in a few other videos, but I saw you did a video on pretty much every other block unit.
The Intro! LESSGO BABYYYY!
Would love to see a factions concept video of factions you'd love to see added! I've always thought the Celts should be broken up into the Irish and Scots, the Vikings into the Norwegians, Swedes and Danes etc.
Spirit's new website names at the end keep impressing me.
"With the downsides being that maybe your soldiers are a little...
**puts sunglasses on**
Hungary!"
YEEEAAAAAHHHH
can I just bring to attention how awesome that meme is at 2:38 lmaooo
An idea for the oncoming huge balance pack: they should need no houses in dark age (like the Huns), but would need them as soon as they reach Feudal.
What makes the Magyars a mediocre 1vs1 civ instead of a good one, is the lack of an eco bonus. By not having to build those 3-4 houses in dark age, and postponing them to the time Feudal is being researched, they would get an early game buff, exactly at the time they need it the most.
(it seems they will lack the +1 pierce armor tech for the infantry which many other nations will get in the new balance patch, so they need some buff in order to not fall behind)
And this would even be historically accurate: in the early middle ages they were a nomadic civilization similar to the Huns (so similar in fact that many myths claim that they are the descendants of the Huns) and they even settled down in the same region where the center of the Hun empire was. And they were basically the only nomadic civilization from the migration period to survive to modern times, because they transitioned to a settled lifestyle like the other European nations had, while those other nations which kept to their nomadic lifestyles, went extinct or got melted into others. Therefore making them nomadic for the Dark Age (not needing houses) but making them like the others civs after reaching Feudal, would make them more interesting and would give them a much needed early game eco bonus. And it would also be historically accurate.
Spirit of the Law i have beat you at your own game:
In the video about the Spanish you mention that their conquistador does benefit from the extra fire rate from the gunpower bonus.
However here you mention that their Magyar hussar doesn't benefit from the team bonus discounting light cav.
Both cases are completely identical, however: A unique unit only available to a civ that gets a static (none age calling) bonust on a specific group of military units where the unique unit falls within the group but doesn't nessesarily gets affected because its is only available to that cis so the bonus is baked into its ''main''stats :p
There is a major difference in the wording, which clearly indicates why this isn't the case. The Spanish bonus is about gunpowder units/the specific armour class, so a diverse group of units (including conqs, but also janissaries, hand cannons, bombards, cannon galleons etc). The Magyar bonus is limited to the scout line however, which means only scout cav, light cav and hussars. There isn't a specific armour class for hussars, and even if it did exist, that wouldn't neccessarily mean that the Magyar huszar would be part of it
@@bartelvandervelden9894 bro did you really go and find out half a year later?
@@ietsbram what do you mean? I watch this video, see this comment, I react (with an explanation). What's so strange about that?
its good to see someone stipl posting videos of aoe2😊
Bruh the game is bigger than its ever been nowadays. It has loads of content creators besides Spirit, and even several huge tournaments every year with large prizepools. It's a great time to get back in! :)
Magyars are a great civ, and one of my favorite civs of them all. Cavalry are a strong point of mine, same with Archers, so these guys, the Poles and Lithuanians, Franks and Byzantines, and the Steppe trio are all favorites of mine.
Oooooooooooh the legendary intro music is baaaaaaack
Nice, my favs
I would have to disagree with a B for siege. To my knowledge, they are one of only 3 civs that have neither bombard cannon or siege ram (Excluding the elephant ram civs). The other two civs being Britons and Japanese, who both get techs to make their Trebuchets significantly stronger.
As a Magyar I'm happy that so many people enjoy us! :)
Making their soilders bit Hungary made my day :-D
full huszar + cav archers is so fun at middle elo
Worth notice that it's team bonus changed to create CavArchers faster, synergizing with Recurve Bow.
Great video!
Spirit of the law:
Video request!
Quick wall/ unfinished buildings or buildings under construction stats. And how easily an onager or mangonel can destroy an unfinished building.
For example I play arena. Instead of castle dropping, I build mangonels and put next to wall. If I get castle dropped they kill the castle right when being built. In theory. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t.
You know why? How much damage I need? How many vills I need to prevent from happening to me?
It’s the only civ that have full paladins and full arbalest! That’s maybe why there so flexible, great video!
Hello man, love your videos and I have a doubt for you, you know cumans provide to it's team with 10 free elite kipchaks for each castle, I'd like to know which civilization would have the best of these when team up with cumans
I thought the original SotL theme was supposed to survive in the civ overviews? Pretty sure that was the statement given to Nelson in your interview with him… now I gotta head over to your full version upload of the piece to get my fix
I love their unique music intro
i hope we eventually get a compilation of every spirit of the ____ joke we've seen in the channel
Because Magyars have no eco bonus, their military bonuses have to be timed and usually asks that you stay ahead of your opponent to take advantage but that is hard to do without eco bonus. They do have imp capabilities provided that you have castles and hussars created without gold.
My favorite civ!
Maan burst out laughing at the micro in 00:41 😂😂
their Wonder is based off Corvin's Castle, Transylvania, if anyone's wondering!
Looking forward to your next squarespace-created TF2 pyro fansite, Spirit of the Phlog
So the magyar hussar is an early version of the winged hussar? Or is the winged hussar a combination of the best advantages of both, the generic hussar and the magyar hussar(conversion resistance + Attack vs Monks and siege)
I think Magyars team bonus, although strange, is way more useful than Sarracen's team bonus.
They have been one of my faves since they came out! I am just a sucked for cavalry...
I wait for big new update dude very interesting
Hey, what is the name of this ending happy song with piano? It stucked in my head so much 😅
This squarespace sponsorings are really adding usefull (might I say necessary) sites to the internet!
Suggestion: intro info about where in the world the civ is based, what years they were active, notable warriors/rulers and wars fought in.
Love the videos
That intro ❤
I have to say, I still enjoy your videos even though I stopped playing years ago.
Also, great to see you are not bloating your videos with 50 adds ect. That'll be the day I stop watching. I can put up with a 2 second shout out at the start of the video.
Cheers for the good content
Oh man I wanted to pick Magyard
I think it can be a interesting idea to give Magyar hussar 1 attack range like step lancer since Magyar is nomad civ but don’t have access to step lancer, also those Magyar hussars have pretty long lance 😂
Fun fact: We Magyars are technically in the game 2 times because our ancestors were the Huns :)
Magyars are current day Hungarians right?
@@jaishkhan7442 Yes.
That is not a fun fact, but between an incorrect statement and oversimplification. We aren't descendants of the Huns neither culturally, genetically, nor linguistically. It is possible, that many magyar tribes fought alongside the huns (but that is true for a lot of nomadic tribes), but they weren't a majority or the base of the hun's language and culture.
@@fenrirr22 Yep, that's just a fun myth. Even if we take the beautiful Legend of the White Stag seriously, Hunor and Magor were brothers, not descendant/ascendant.
Hi Spirit, can you please do an update on best CA.
13:30 most useful information 😅
3:45 I see what you did there 😂😂😂
Compared w your original overview from 7 years ago, it’s amazing how little Magyars have changed.
Team bonus changed to "cav archers train 25% faster"
They are my favourite army to play behind Chinese purely because of their tech flexibility and counter matching, then Magyars for their speed and aggression if you can time things right.
still my fav civ.
Does the foot archer +2 LOS also apply to skirmishers??
I think they need a small boost, if you do not always get a small lead, they often fall behind booming civs
Maybe like every time a building is destroyed, you get 10% of the resources back
It would be damn funny and sad if the new April PUP update for Aoe 2 had massive changes, when SOTL just uploaded a Magyars overview :D
Can you start making chapter in yoru videos? It really helps a TON
They're a fun late game civ no doubt but I do so wish they had some sort of eco bonus and/or better siege. Access to bombard cannon would not only address some weaknesses but also be historically accurate. Middle age Magyar armies were very gunpowder focused.
Also other strong cavalry civs have bombard cannon such as Franks, Lithuanians, Malians, Spanish, Portuguese, Burgundians, Poles, Berbers, and Teutons. The ones that don't such as Khmer, Tatars or Cumans have some crazy eco bonuses and also siege alternatives such as Siege Ram (Cumans & Khmer) or insane trebs (Tatars).
I just feel that Magyars are being jibbed here for no particular reason. It would help their late game in some closed maps where they're clearly terrible.
A good early game historically accurate bonus would be to not require houses in the dark age. But require them as soon as reaching feudal, unlike the Huns which never need houses. This could make gameplay more unique and interesting, and would give them a much needed early game eco bonus.
Also missing Squires for the trash units.
ah yes, the first civ I played when I bought AOE2 DE for the first time in 2020.
Hajra Magyarok!
Obviously I love my people. It's so cool to hear sentences on your own language in one of the greatest game ever made.
And tactically, the Magyars are quite good I say.
Does the villager kill wolves in 1 hit bonus affect other units like penguins or monkey boy?
Yeah I'm pretty sure the villager vs wolves bonus is a direct reference to Toldi, otherwise the bonus doesn't make any sense.
Can you do Ethiopians next? I watched the old video and it's a little outdated.
Is it random who is on the pocket or flank in team games?
Is there a mod that allows you to keep civ bonuses whilst all techs are on?
2:44 That one vil coming out of thin air
Personally I would like to see an equal resources fight comparison between Magyar Huzars and Magyar hussars. One is cheaper and weaker, and the other is stronger and more expensive, I would like the comparison to factor in the unique tech taking out gold, then do the same without the unique tech, Etc.
Look ma, I'm famous on the internet! :D
Didn't suspect my comment would make it in a video, but thanks for featuring it.
Also, as another commenter pointed out - since it's been a while I read the story - Toldi was actually a noble from birth, just treated as a peasant by his family, especially by his brother. Still a folk hero though.
Again, I don't know if this story was the original Forgotten mod team's inspiration, but I think it certainly fits, even if the story is fiction, and the bonus is very situational in-game.
13:41 - Yep, that's just about sums up Hungarian history.
Do you guys know what he means by scout line or pocket?
Do skirmishers benefit from their team bonus?
I am surprised that with all the squarespace sponsorships, you don't have a legal firm side hustle called Spirit of The Law.
What if any is the difference between hussar and huszar?
Is the latter supposed to be pronounced with a "z" sound instead?
In Hungarian,. the "sz" digraph represents the sound similar to English "s", while the letter "s" represents consonant more similar to English "sh".
It's exactly opposite to the Polish orthography for example.
So no, huszar is just the word in Hungarian orthography.
2:22 how many bears did he kill with his wolf hands?
3:47 as a hungarian that is the only hungry joke i have ever heard that was actually funny
Me a Hussar enjoyer playing Magyars or Poles (even Bulgarians) : *sips tea*
"...with the downside that your soldiers are maybe a little Hungary" ;) lmao I see what you did there!