I lived in Amersham, and then Chesham for many years. I was a frequent user of the Met, and watched the progress of electrification. I travelled on the old Chesham shuttle, in steam days, and also in the Dreadnought stock, steam hauled to Ricky, when the tank loco was substituted by an electric loco for the remainder of the trip to Baker Street, and beyond. I very much liked the A60 stock which eventually took over the duties. I remember many a fast, bumpy ride on them, particularly through the pointwork at Neasden.
As a then toddler, I can just about recollect boarding one of the very first A60 Stock silver trains from my home town of Chesham to go up to London Christmas shopping. I also appear to be one of the very few who can recall seeing the turntable in Chesham Goods Yard.
The A stock were the best stock to run on the sub-surface routes. S stock may be OK for Hammersmith & City, Circle and possibly District line services, but are totally unsuited to outer Metropolitan services, especially to Amersham and Chesham. There was no good reason for not building new stock identical bodywise and internally to the A stock, with modern traction equipment, air conditioning, suspension etc
I am just about old enough to remember seeing standard, 1938 and 1959 stock trains at my local station, Hounslow West. Thank you for this fantastic look at LT history.
Lovely film I grew up at Kings Cross and used to virtually play on the network and do trainspotting at places like Royal Oak. I've ridden on most of those old trains. I had a cab ride in the vickers bobo from Liverpool Street to Baker Street. I've ridden on the district round window trains, the standard stock and the 1938. I've been all over the place from circa 1956 and explored so much of London and school holidays I'd be off somewhere and rarely had a ticket. Lovely days and London was so safe and a great place to grow up.
Wow, you could not do anything like this these days. Sounds like you had so much fun. Could only do any of the things you did on train sim world now, and not everything. Thank you for watching, and taking the time to comment. 👍
I lived in London during 1981-2 and used the Bakerloo most days. The 1938 stock was just wonderful. Think what those cars had seen! There were still a few old sets on the District as well, although these were few and far between. Great collection of footage all round.
Great video, thank you for sharing. I especially liked the Acton shuttle scenes. Both cars were present although 4167 only scraped in on the last shot. Incidentally, they were never Q23s, they remained G23s and couldnt work with converted Q stock. One of them was stencilled as Q23 after an overhaul but this was corrected later. They weren't identical either. 4176 was a west facing car and 4167 east facing based on original cab ends. They could only couple to each other if necessary. Chris H
This couldn't be any better. Great unique footage and excellent commentary. The London Transport Museum should be aware of this, if they are not already.
Thank you so much for uploading this , not only is it enjoyable to watch but a historic record of those times , I wonder if the person filming these trains ever realized the historic importance of these films.
The A Stock were the last LUL trains to be used on The East London Line before it was closed for complete rebuilding and extensions before becoming The London Overground East London Line. Which was extended beyond Shoreditch north to Highbury & Islington and south to West Croydon and Crystal Palace.
I remember the Chesham branch steam trains when I was a kid (I lived in Bovingdon). When my parents took my sister and me on a trip to London, sometimes we went via Boxmoor, (Hemel Hempstead), other times via Chesham (the local bus service ran between the two towns). Great seeing these videos. When was this video made? Judging by the cars I would say sometime in the late 1980s.
The D78 stock ( to give it its full title) was substituted to the East London Met for a period in the '80s while the A60 stock fleet was undergoing major works to permit opo operation which involved removing the guards control panels from the driving motor car passenger compartment and providing door controls in the cab for the train operator. There were several units of D stock built as full 3 car units - with a driving cab at each end - while the majority of that fleet comprised of 3 car units with a shunting cabinet at the unto coupling with limited motor control and controls for the coupler ( known to crews as undums - Uncoupling Nondriving Motor Cars)
It’s great to share on here and read people’s interesting, knowledgeable comments. I wish I could go back in a Time Machine just for one day to see some of these trains working.
Very enjoyable video. I love the sheer variety of stock of all ages running side by side, I miss that. Nowadays tube trains are all homogenized with that dreadful corporate livery. I often wish I had been born earlier, I would love to experience travelling on some of these wonderful lost trains.
@@DaveInBridport again she continued it . There is an eec directive from heath and it has carried on until this day , leave the manufacturing etc to us, you ,( the uk ) concentrate on banking which just before brexit that was going to move to Germany too ...try reading 1984 there's the plan for warehouse uk .thatcher just continued it and blair accelerated it . There is no future under tory or liebour, you need to wake up and see the real world
Remember the old Piccadilly and Central Line stock from the 1920's in the early 1960's as a small boy of 6-8 years old and being quite intrigued by their appearance.
I lived in Amersham, and then Chesham for many years. I was a frequent user of the Met, and watched the progress of electrification. I travelled on the old Chesham shuttle, in steam days, and also in the Dreadnought stock, steam hauled to Ricky, when the tank loco was substituted by an electric loco for the remainder of the trip to Baker Street, and beyond. I very much liked the A60 stock which eventually took over the duties. I remember many a fast, bumpy ride on them, particularly through the pointwork at Neasden.
As a then toddler, I can just about recollect boarding one of the very first A60 Stock silver trains from my home town of Chesham to go up to London Christmas shopping.
I also appear to be one of the very few who can recall seeing the turntable in Chesham Goods Yard.
The A stock were the best stock to run on the sub-surface routes. S stock may be OK for Hammersmith & City, Circle and possibly District line services, but are totally unsuited to outer Metropolitan services, especially to Amersham and Chesham.
There was no good reason for not building new stock identical bodywise and internally to the A stock, with modern traction equipment, air conditioning, suspension etc
@@thomasburke2683 Good idea 👍
Thank you for watching. The comments are great, reading about people’s journeys on LU. Thank you for sharing 👍
Wow! turntable at Chesham, would love to of seen that. Thank you for sharing. I love everyone’s little stories 👍
That's some good quality footage with genuine soundtrack and a helpful commentary.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching 👍
I am just about old enough to remember seeing standard, 1938 and 1959 stock trains at my local station, Hounslow West. Thank you for this fantastic look at LT history.
No problem I’m happy that you enjoyed it
This is an absolute classic movie! excellent!!
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching 👀
Absolutely Wonderful ! Remember them all !
We love films like this, glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely film I grew up at Kings Cross and used to virtually play on the network and do trainspotting at places like Royal Oak. I've ridden on most of those old trains. I had a cab ride in the vickers bobo from Liverpool Street to Baker Street. I've ridden on the district round window trains, the standard stock and the 1938. I've been all over the place from circa 1956 and explored so much of London and school holidays I'd be off somewhere and rarely had a ticket. Lovely days and London was so safe and a great place to grow up.
Wow, you could not do anything like this these days. Sounds like you had so much fun. Could only do any of the things you did on train sim world now, and not everything. Thank you for watching, and taking the time to comment. 👍
Amazing footage, a great watch!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 👀
As a tube worker, it’s amazing to see this historic archive. I enjoy seeing old videos.
Glad you liked it, I’ve got more. 👍
Absolutely cracking video, thanks so much for posting this.
No problem! Glad you liked it, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 👍
I lived in London during 1981-2 and used the Bakerloo most days. The 1938 stock was just wonderful. Think what those cars had seen! There were still a few old sets on the District as well, although these were few and far between.
Great collection of footage all round.
Glad you enjoyed the video, it’s great to share on here and read people’s comments. Thank you 👍
Great video, thank you for sharing. I especially liked the Acton shuttle scenes. Both cars were present although 4167 only scraped in on the last shot. Incidentally, they were never Q23s, they remained G23s and couldnt work with converted Q stock. One of them was stencilled as Q23 after an overhaul but this was corrected later. They weren't identical either. 4176 was a west facing car and 4167 east facing based on original cab ends. They could only couple to each other if necessary.
Chris H
The good thing about the comments is that you can learn a little more, Thank you! And I’m glad you liked it. 👍
This couldn't be any better. Great unique footage and excellent commentary. The London Transport Museum should be aware of this, if they are not already.
I would have thought that most if not all of the archive footage originally came from the museum depot. Glad you enjoyed the video
Lovely stuff, especially Acton Town to South Acton cab ride, East London line F stock (well remembered here) and Drayton Park. Thank you King WG.
Glad you enjoyed it, Thank you!
Thank you also for uploading this clip KWG. Especially when it featured some trains like The F Stock that i haven't seen before.
No problem, 👍
One of the best LU videos ever!
Glad you liked it! And thank you for taking the time to comment 👍
Wonderful historical content, great that it survives.
Im with you on keeping history alive, especially LU transport and social history.
Thank you so much for uploading this , not only is it enjoyable to watch but a historic record of those times , I wonder if the person filming these trains ever realized the historic importance of these films.
I’m sure that was the idea filming for social and historical reference in years to come. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
I've actually had something recommended to me that I would watch!
Great! Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
Thank you for this look at historical footage.
No problem, it’s an interesting film, I’m glad you liked it.
Excellent video, many thanks..
Glad you enjoyed it. 👍
Really enjoyed watching this. Lots of footage I've never seen before. Thanks for uploading!
Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it
A pleasure to watch, thank you for uploading.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it 👍
awesome video as a lul staff since 89 it so lovely to see these old beauties thanks for keeping history alive
No need to thank us, the trains are fantastic, and should not be forgotten. 👍
The CO/CP are the smartest looking stock ever produced anywhere.
Totally agree 👍
@@kingwolfgaming4774They look pretty similar to R Stock though.
Magnificent compilation! Thank-you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you.
I don't remember the T stock in service but do recall seeing a couple of T stock cars on the network as sleet locos numbers ESL118A/B. Good video.
Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍 Thank you for watching
Brilliant! Thank you.
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Very enjoyable! Thank you!
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The A Stock were the last LUL trains to be used on The East London Line before it was closed for complete rebuilding and extensions before becoming The London Overground East London Line. Which was extended beyond Shoreditch north to Highbury & Islington and south to West Croydon and Crystal Palace.
Thank you. The comments are as interesting as the film. 👍
I remember the Chesham branch steam trains when I was a kid (I lived in Bovingdon). When my parents took my sister and me on a trip to London, sometimes we went via Boxmoor, (Hemel Hempstead), other times via Chesham (the local bus service ran between the two towns). Great seeing these videos. When was this video made? Judging by the cars I would say sometime in the late 1980s.
Thank you for your comment, you are correct 1986
The D78 stock ( to give it its full title) was substituted to the East London Met for a period in the '80s while the A60 stock fleet was undergoing major works to permit opo operation which involved removing the guards control panels from the driving motor car passenger compartment and providing door controls in the cab for the train operator. There were several units of D stock built as full 3 car units - with a driving cab at each end - while the majority of that fleet comprised of 3 car units with a shunting cabinet at the unto coupling with limited motor control and controls for the coupler ( known to crews as undums - Uncoupling Nondriving Motor Cars)
It’s great to share on here and read people’s interesting, knowledgeable comments. I wish I could go back in a Time Machine just for one day to see some of these trains working.
@ I'd love to go back to the 80s and drive again. Should never have left. Wish I had been there in the 70s
Very enjoyable video. I love the sheer variety of stock of all ages running side by side, I miss that. Nowadays tube trains are all homogenized with that dreadful corporate livery. I often wish I had been born earlier, I would love to experience travelling on some of these wonderful lost trains.
I know what you mean about the livery, I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and thank you for taking the time to comment
Keep up the good work 😊😊
Will try, thank you. 👍
What an excellent video 😊
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching
X-mas special . Thanx .
Thank you too! 👍
What a treat.
Glad you enjoyed it!
when we had a country and industry
Yes the railways looked a lot more interesting. Totally different now.
Thatcher destroyed that
@@DaveInBridport rubbish, she continued it ,
@bobtudbury8505 continued it? Eh? She destroyed mining, manufacturing. Left us as a call centre nation.
@@DaveInBridport again she continued it . There is an eec directive from heath and it has carried on until this day , leave the manufacturing etc to us, you ,( the uk ) concentrate on banking which just before brexit that was going to move to Germany too ...try reading 1984 there's the plan for warehouse uk .thatcher just continued it and blair accelerated it . There is no future under tory or liebour, you need to wake up and see the real world
I recall CO/CP stock on the District and the odd 38er on the Picc.
Interesting times not like now, most look the same
Is this "Jim Connor" the same as "J.E. Connor"? Have many of his railway history books! 😊
Yes I believe it is, he is very knowledgeable, his books are great.
Fascinating film.
Yes, thank you for watching 👀 👍
Remember the old Piccadilly and Central Line stock from the 1920's in the early 1960's as a small boy of 6-8 years old and being quite intrigued by their appearance.
Would have loved to of seen these going up and down the line. Thank you for watching 👍
Its a pity more Met electric locos were not retained. likewise the Met steam locos, though all the ex GWRs went into preservation ?
Yes it is a pity, but I’m sure you know that it’s just lack of space, money and volunteers to maintain. It would be fantastic to of kept more.
@@kingwolfgaming4774 also rather a lot of asbestos in the electric locos
Charming choo-choo's !
Yes, I wish they were still around. Thank you
50:45 - Would this be a dual lashup of 3-CIG?
Maybe someone with more knowledge could confirm. Thank you for watching 👀
Nice to see trains and stations not covered in graffiti
Yes my thoughts also 👍
I wish I had a time machine...
Me too 😀
16:07 T Stock GRRRRR
T stock were they that bad? I never traveled on one. Thank you for watching 👀 👍
The sounds of old electric trains always made that growling sound @@kingwolfgaming4774
WTF. A steam loco pushing a suburban train. How did they control the loco? Was there a simple form of driving trailer?
I don’t know, but it’s great to see the old stuff. 👍
T stock
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