Thanks for these uploads! I can't begin to explain how much i appreciate this type of stuff as its super hard to find and i had run out of things to watch.
Are there any videos on Detention Centres, I went to DC first then two borstal, I did go to prison a few times after, but then I just grew up, got married, had four kids, and stayed out of crime, great videos, though it makes me feel really old.
@@pauljones8218 lol, it was crazy,permission to fall out for a piss, fall out and sit down for a crap, scrubbing, buffing, and as for washing and shaving in the morning, everything was done to make you not think, lol, I'm glad I did it though, nobody believes if you tell them how it was.
Well lots of us are doing jobs we might not like ! What you do is look for a job that suits you better, but make sure you've got it BEFORE you resign the first job !
And yet these lads are infinitely more articulate and mature than young crims of the same age today. No comparison in fact. Things getting better? Not in every sense, no.
14:00 Looks just like a scene from Kes with Jud and his Mum. I half expected to see Billy come running in shouting and swinging the dead kestrel around.
That's Ken Loach for you. He could make fiction look like old documentaries. I'd rather take Kes over family movies released today. Like the woke Barbie movie.
YOU,SIR, have taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH!!!. PURE KES, PURE LYNNE PERRY AS BILLY AND JUD'S MUM!. I was wondering if anybody else had picked up on it so your comment brought a very big smile to my face, thanks.
@@chopchung I think part of that has to do with how Kes was filmed. Kes was filmed like a documentary on Barnsley and Barnsley schooling. It has a very gritty rawness to it that it can easily match a Man Alive documentary. It just shows how masterful Ken Loach was as an artist.
@@RandomGuy-qh7tl Kes was filmed before this. It is just a total coincidence that in that clip he looks and is dressed like Jud, his mum looks like his mum and they have the same fire place in the background.
@@BillyJango Oh yes, I know. But all of Ken Loach's films have this raw, documentary feel to them. Even the newer ones. His films do have a very "Man Alive" feel to them that's present in films like "Kes".
done Portland borstal 1981, 1982 1983, done 3 stints first borstal, then a 4 month borstal recall, then in 1983 it had changed to yc and done 9 months, i was in hardy house, then Grenville house, then Rodney just before release, when i was recalled went straight back into Grenville, on my 3rd visit i was in drake house, had 2 Christmases in there 81 & 82 didn't have anyone to send money in for Christmas so had to settle for the queens £1.00 Christmas parcel, which was dried fruit juice , just ad water, and biscuits and a few sweets...no baccy i was education orderly, and was told i only got that job , because i had been back 3 time lol, learnt a lot but to me it wasn't hard, crazy now aged 60 and still have memories of the place, hard to wonder where the 41 yrs has gone since being there, can even remember the swimming pool there on my first wack, but closed by my 2nd 3rd time there, and also playing football in the old quarry lol, think my last weekly wage was £1.75 enough to buy 3/4 ounce of baccy and papers, still have my original education orderly photocopy pass, that i smuggled out of my radio , told the screw i lost my pass and got a replacement remember playing the screws snooker for a packet of biscuits or a mars bar if you lost regards to anyone who done the borstal training.
I was in Rodney house in 1983 1984, I was the house orderly for 4 months, after I’d done a stint in the laundry. Rodney was ok, the screws were good, Mr Blewit and Mr Pratt, the 2 brothers Brown. Mr Wensley and the unforgettable Mr Stone. He was ancient then. As orderly I was unlocked early, after the farm lad but before general unlock, so I could slop out and use the ablutions in peace. I wasn’t locked up over lunch or after tea, basically just overnight. I only left the house for meals and I served the food as well. Used to bring a big jug of sweetened milk back for the screws tea but I usually got mugged for that in the tunnel, by the time half a dozen lads had had a swig from it there wasn’t much left. Lunch time I played snooker with a screw, usually mr Blewitt, and I had to make up the kits for Friday kit change. No bed pack, no daily cell inspection and Saturday inspection was lay out kit but the PO didn’t check it. We’d all be in the tv room for Dallas. I had a little office thing like a small kitchen on the centre, with a grill and a toaster. I could make toast and usually I could have a coffee if I’d made some for the screws. No fighting in Rodney when I was there. Well only Paul Keating and Steve Sexton but they were from Cardiff and Swansea and for some reason disliked each other. they were ok individually. Some good lads there. The biggest twat was Pausy from slough. What a total cock.he was so stupid they had him in the cell with the padded edges and the bed on the floor. He didn’t fit in in Reading jail, and I couldn’t believe it when he appeared in the house, I thought we’d seen the last of him. He’s probably long dead by now.
2 DCentres blantre hse kent & Hasler portsmouth ' a YC in gloustershire ' just when they changed it ie got rid of bostal & DCs ' easy stir 👍 @@thpxs0554
Probation was the most pointless part of my sentence. My officer was a lovely woman but my biweekly meetings with here were basically a 10 minute chat. No real help on offer
No. He's too young to be the journalist with the same name. This Tony Wardle is still alive, owns a building business and recently rode on a motorbike from Bolton to Cannes.
It should be still like this now....i missed borstal by 8 months before changed to youth custody...shame it should have been left like this ....society is totally breaking down.
I went to the verne on a course when i started in prison service.The tutors were from portland and 1took me around.You had to watch as seagulls wrre breeding and would attack you . 1 young offender asked where i was from then looked terrified as he saw who i was with.boys in block had no mattress on bed in day time . Pity some of that had not stayed in system as years later all respect was taken away.
There was also Black and Brown Beauty. Rough as hell. You had to be desperate to smoke the Black. Looked like the stuff swept off the floor in a public toilet. Brown wasn't much better. Old Holborn was a treat compared, like Golden Virginia...
@kylejordan9118 thanks mate, for getting back to me mate. I do love old Holborn. Nice strong smoke. Its good that you still have your shirt, after all these years. Can you tell me about radios kyle. Someone said it was only am radios allowed back then, as on a fm radio, you could pick up the police and prison officers radios. I have a roberts rambler radio, from the 70s. I heard they were very popular back in the day
@neilpaxman thanks mate. I've never heard of that baccy. We had rodeo and red bull, in adult jail. It was pipe tobacco, but people with hardly any money, used to buy it. I bought it a couple.of times, but very harsh, mate. I do love the old Holborn, as its a strong decent smoke
Love " Man Alive " and the theme tune 👌 takes me back to my younger days.
These Borstal uploads are a real blast from the past 1970s onwards. Nice. Enjoying them all. Man alive im enjoying them?
Thanks for these uploads! I can't begin to explain how much i appreciate this type of stuff as its super hard to find and i had run out of things to watch.
Lots more to come mate
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@@Fanedit-hb8brwhat year is the Wandsworth video???
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Man, you've some rare documentaries,
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@@ÆCME it’s addictive 😃😃👍wife watching Netflix I’m watching this 😂👍
Loving these old programs, thanks for uploading xx
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Are there any videos on Detention Centres, I went to DC first then two borstal, I did go to prison a few times after, but then I just grew up, got married, had four kids, and stayed out of crime, great videos, though it makes me feel really old.
i went to dc in 1977 for 3 months glad to get out twas shite marching yes sir no sir lol
@@pauljones8218 lol, it was crazy,permission to fall out for a piss, fall out and sit down for a crap, scrubbing, buffing, and as for washing and shaving in the morning, everything was done to make you not think, lol, I'm glad I did it though, nobody believes if you tell them how it was.
Wonder if one of these lads are watching these? Be amazing to hear first hand
Mostly passed away i would imagine they would be around 75 now>
I was circa 88 and I’m alive!! Decade before would make them 60 odd & unlikely that they are all dead.
Probably all dead by now these young lads die young come from hard backgrounds got to fight to survive 2:56
HELLO MATE IM ALIVE 68< NOW MOST ARE DEAD I ESCAPED TO CALIFORNIA< JUST WROTE A BOOK BEST SELLER> LIVERPOOL BANK ROBBER TO Hollywood Butler. CHEERS
@@terrymoogan3773 hi terry I read your book absolutely brilliant! Respect from the Cotswolds 🇬🇧
Well lots of us are doing jobs we might not like ! What you do is look for a job that suits you better, but make sure you've got it BEFORE you resign the first job !
And yet these lads are infinitely more articulate and mature than young crims of the same age today. No comparison in fact. Things getting better? Not in every sense, no.
14:00 Looks just like a scene from Kes with Jud and his Mum. I half expected to see Billy come running in shouting and swinging the dead kestrel around.
That's Ken Loach for you. He could make fiction look like old documentaries.
I'd rather take Kes over family movies released today. Like the woke Barbie movie.
YOU,SIR, have taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH!!!. PURE KES, PURE LYNNE PERRY AS BILLY AND JUD'S MUM!. I was wondering if anybody else had picked up on it so your comment brought a very big smile to my face, thanks.
@@chopchung I think part of that has to do with how Kes was filmed. Kes was filmed like a documentary on Barnsley and Barnsley schooling. It has a very gritty rawness to it that it can easily match a Man Alive documentary.
It just shows how masterful Ken Loach was as an artist.
@@RandomGuy-qh7tl Kes was filmed before this. It is just a total coincidence that in that clip he looks and is dressed like Jud, his mum looks like his mum and they have the same fire place in the background.
@@BillyJango Oh yes, I know. But all of Ken Loach's films have this raw, documentary feel to them. Even the newer ones. His films do have a very "Man Alive" feel to them that's present in films like "Kes".
Brendan Behan's "Borstal Boy" was one of my all-time favorite books.
done Portland borstal 1981, 1982 1983, done 3 stints first borstal, then a 4 month borstal recall, then in 1983 it had changed to yc and done 9 months, i was in hardy house, then Grenville house, then Rodney just before release, when i was recalled went straight back into Grenville, on my 3rd visit i was in drake house, had 2 Christmases in there 81 & 82 didn't have anyone to send money in for Christmas so had to settle for the queens £1.00 Christmas parcel, which was dried fruit juice , just ad water, and biscuits and a few sweets...no baccy
i was education orderly, and was told i only got that job , because i had been back 3 time lol, learnt a lot but to me it wasn't hard,
crazy now aged 60 and still have memories of the place, hard to wonder where the 41 yrs has gone since being there,
can even remember the swimming pool there on my first wack, but closed by my 2nd 3rd time there, and also playing football in the old quarry lol, think my last weekly wage was £1.75 enough to buy 3/4 ounce of baccy and papers,
still have my original education orderly photocopy pass, that i smuggled out of my radio , told the screw i lost my pass and got a replacement
remember playing the screws snooker for a packet of biscuits or a mars bar if you lost
regards to anyone who done the borstal training.
Hey there what became of the rest of your life please share
I was in Rodney house in 1983 1984, I was the house orderly for 4 months, after I’d done a stint in the laundry. Rodney was ok, the screws were good, Mr Blewit and Mr Pratt, the 2 brothers Brown. Mr Wensley and the unforgettable Mr Stone. He was ancient then. As orderly I was unlocked early, after the farm lad but before general unlock, so I could slop out and use the ablutions in peace. I wasn’t locked up over lunch or after tea, basically just overnight. I only left the house for meals and I served the food as well. Used to bring a big jug of sweetened milk back for the screws tea but I usually got mugged for that in the tunnel, by the time half a dozen lads had had a swig from it there wasn’t much left. Lunch time I played snooker with a screw, usually mr Blewitt, and I had to make up the kits for Friday kit change. No bed pack, no daily cell inspection and Saturday inspection was lay out kit but the PO didn’t check it. We’d all be in the tv room for Dallas. I had a little office thing like a small kitchen on the centre, with a grill and a toaster. I could make toast and usually I could have a coffee if I’d made some for the screws. No fighting in Rodney when I was there. Well only Paul Keating and Steve Sexton but they were from Cardiff and Swansea and for some reason disliked each other. they were ok individually. Some good lads there. The biggest twat was Pausy from slough. What a total cock.he was so stupid they had him in the cell with the padded edges and the bed on the floor. He didn’t fit in in Reading jail, and I couldn’t believe it when he appeared in the house, I thought we’d seen the last of him. He’s probably long dead by now.
What a waste 🤷
2 DCentres blantre hse kent & Hasler portsmouth ' a YC in gloustershire ' just when they changed it ie got rid of bostal & DCs ' easy stir 👍 @@thpxs0554
obviously didnt learn your lesson then 🤣
Most of these will be back within a year, wake up, and get a real life.
id love to know "where they are now" from this movie
It didn’t really work most of those in Borstal got sent back or to prison.
I notice the probation service hasnt changed, Give fuk all help but soon inform on you when you miss an appointment.
Probation was the most pointless part of my sentence. My officer was a lovely woman but my biweekly meetings with here were basically a 10 minute chat. No real help on offer
I've found myself in the middle of some sick fuck power games with probation
Probation is not progressive its reactive.
They wait until you mess up then react,
"Who's the daddy nah?"
I cannot get over how disciplined they are. YOIs now are utter chaos.
Is that first clip from SE London / Kent area?
I wonder if this is the same Tony Wardle who went on to write books about prison ?
No. He's too young to be the journalist with the same name.
This Tony Wardle is still alive, owns a building business and recently rode on a motorbike from Bolton to Cannes.
It should be still like this now....i missed borstal by 8 months before changed to youth custody...shame it should have been left like this ....society is totally breaking down.
OH THAT TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I went to the verne on a course when i started in prison service.The tutors were from portland and 1took me around.You had to watch as seagulls wrre breeding and would attack you .
1 young offender asked where i was from then looked terrified as he saw who i was with.boys in block had no mattress on bed in day time .
Pity some of that had not stayed in system as years later all respect was taken away.
does anyone know specifically when this was filmed? I know it has to be pre 1971 as they talk in old currency.
In an earlier episode at the borstal there's a calendar for April 1970 on the wall. I believe this episode was transmitted in July that year.
anybody know the year?
1970
That van was a 1963 B reg. So would've been 7 years' old...
definately around 70/71
@@CARLIN4737 it was broadcast july 8th 1970. . I picked up pre decimal currency.
Possibly filmed 1969 & broadcast 1970 .
Is this narrated by Tim curry?
Institutionalised !! Ffs only bin in for 11 months 🙄
This was 1970.
DOUBLE DIAMOND 8p a pint
Does anyone know what tobacco these guys mainly smoked back in borstal. Many thanks
Old Holborn . Still have my shirt with prison issue stamp . We all lose our way at times . Sometimes wish I'd stayed lost ✊
There was also Black and Brown Beauty. Rough as hell. You had to be desperate to smoke the Black. Looked like the stuff swept off the floor in a public toilet. Brown wasn't much better. Old Holborn was a treat compared, like Golden Virginia...
@kylejordan9118 thanks mate, for getting back to me mate. I do love old Holborn. Nice strong smoke. Its good that you still have your shirt, after all these years. Can you tell me about radios kyle. Someone said it was only am radios allowed back then, as on a fm radio, you could pick up the police and prison officers radios. I have a roberts rambler radio, from the 70s. I heard they were very popular back in the day
@neilpaxman thanks mate. I've never heard of that baccy. We had rodeo and red bull, in adult jail. It was pipe tobacco, but people with hardly any money, used to buy it. I bought it a couple.of times, but very harsh, mate. I do love the old Holborn, as its a strong decent smoke
@user-mr3lt6bi5z Roberts rambler and even better, the Hacker were the best radios to get. Both powered by PP9 and lovely tone.
11:00 Alex de Large
@5:07- WTF ? Is he a screw dressed as con just for the programme ??