Orville Peck's Mask and the Myth of the Gay Cowboy

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  • Orville Peck is a South-African born, Canadian-based, and openly gay country musician. His voice, song writing and style all paint an image of a new kind of cowboy mythology: the myth of the gay cowboy. By transforming a typically white-hetero-based mythology, Orville Peck actively transforms the mythology of the cowboy into one that is not only accepting of the LGBT+ community, but actively represents it. His fringed mask does not hide an identity, but rather provides an identity that isn't just for the singer, but for the whole culture.
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  • @skeeverapfelbaum7168
    @skeeverapfelbaum7168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is a really thoughtful analysis of Orville Peck and his statement as an artist. Thank you for not writing off the mask as "a gimmick" as many seem to do. Great video!

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks so much, I'm glad you liked it! I love Orville's mask, and the care and attention he puts into his look is something to really admire.

    • @PrimateEnrichment
      @PrimateEnrichment ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It took me a minute to get with the mask but it works and I think adds to everything. I love it

  • @burninsherman1037
    @burninsherman1037 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love Orville Peck, and loved this video. This is my second watch after needing to come back to it after watching Kaz Rowe's videos on gay cowboys and westerns.

  • @pickledbeetroots4413
    @pickledbeetroots4413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I just stumbled across your video while listening to Orville and wow what a find! This is such a detailed and interesting video, Thank you for all the work you must have put into it

  • @markplank5929
    @markplank5929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Highly appreciate this deeper look into a much deeper person who is an authentic Cowboy.

  • @someguy4505
    @someguy4505 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good to see people who don't make radio pop country bullshit get some attention. I think there would be a lot more country fans if so many didn't think country music was just the stuff that's usually pushed by the industry.

  • @at_brunch3852
    @at_brunch3852 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn’t need an explanation, he’s perfect. I guess some do. Your explanation supports his choices. From interviews; I can hear his own sentimentality. He’s a brightness 🌟no one can deny. I live countryside with animals and ‘cowboy gear’ and he has become my favourite everything. I have absorbed every word of every song & interview. I finally feel whole. 💫

  • @dyrekvellnagel3011
    @dyrekvellnagel3011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And here I thought , he is a beautiful singer/songwriter, choreographer,designer an all around great guy. Never in my wildest dreams would I have taken such a plunge into the psychology as you have presented . Thank you for your work. Cheers🐨DD

  • @footpath21
    @footpath21 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i am going to make every single person i am remotely close to sit down and watch this video cuz this FUCKS. also it's an amazing analysis, thank you so much for making it!

  • @fairwitness7473
    @fairwitness7473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you! I rather enjoyed your essay. Very well done my friend. I loved the holistic view taken. Very enlightening. Again, thank you!

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much!

    • @fairwitness7473
      @fairwitness7473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@incidentalmythology I will be binge watching your videos tomorrow. After reading the titles, I find that I'm interested in every single one of them. I don't know how many more that you have in the works but I know that I'm interested. Subscribed.
      Do you welcome ideas or suggestions? I have a few questions that might help the older generation connect with the younger generation over our modern day mythology. Mythology in general is a subject that I'm forever interested in.
      I'm excited to dig into your body of work!

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll always take suggestions! I have a few ideas but it's always nice to hear from viewers and get an idea of what others want to hear. I never know how myth heavy to be in my videos

    • @fairwitness7473
      @fairwitness7473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@incidentalmythology I really enjoyed how you tie together various mythologies and explain how they then tie together and complete the modern picture.
      Right now, as a 50+yo woman, I want to understand the role anime plays in our culture and how it changes or helps change unappealing social values.
      I can't watch much anime because of how the eyes are drawn. It's too distracting. But if you take that same story and do a nice cgi version, I'm all in.
      I was just wondering how much content to you consume to produce your vids? It's got to be a lot. Anyway, thanks for your time!
      Next up: what does the bigfoot (or criptid) myth contribute to modern culture? And what can we learn about ourselves? Or are we just a lonely species hungry to make any meaningful connection with another seemingly intelligent species?
      With Halloween around the corner, what role does horror movies, villains, and victims play on our collective psyche mythologically?
      I know I haven't worded those well, but I think you get the idea. I'm sure if you choose any of those, I'll love whatever you come up with! Again, thanks for your time. 🤗

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for your thoughts! I may consider turning some of these into videos themselves. Some of my research and thoughts that aren't video length, or lend themselves to visuals, I use as blogs on my website IncidentalMythology.com which may have some more stuff you'll find interesting

  • @brandonbrake5782
    @brandonbrake5782 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He JUST cancelled his Pride performance in Seattle, and we understand, and look forward. To the next time.

    • @at_brunch3852
      @at_brunch3852 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 months ago? Is this accurate?

    • @johnobrien5440
      @johnobrien5440 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea, he's going through some shit. My guess is his label will drop him after they have enough of his emotional drama.

  • @michaelconley2793
    @michaelconley2793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good thoughts and well articulated! Live Orville Peck and this analysis.

  • @BB-wb9lv
    @BB-wb9lv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Outstanding analysis.

  • @Katakagara
    @Katakagara ปีที่แล้ว +9

    New subscriber here.
    Great content!🏆
    Just found your channel through a search of Peck and wondering if he was Gay. Initially, I was searching for Norman Reedus (of The Walking Dead show) to see all the music videos he’s been in, including Lady Gaga’s Judas.
    After watching a video of him hugging Reedus, I got curious.
    Looking forward to watching more of your videos. I am proud of my LGBcommunity and mythology.
    Thank you.

    • @vicquemare
      @vicquemare ปีที่แล้ว

      oh a terf. interesting.

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was really really hoping (probably dumbly) that it was an unfortunate typo

    • @Katakagara
      @Katakagara ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vicquemare you can call me whatever you want if it pleases you.
      I am not part of the T or Q community. That’s all.
      They’re not in my world and they’re not in my personal community, so I am really neutral to people who identify with those communities. That’s all.
      If that’s all you got from my post, okay. Best!

    • @Katakagara
      @Katakagara ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@incidentalmythology no it’s not a typo. I’m not part of the T or Q community. That’s really it.

  • @MissPerriwinkle
    @MissPerriwinkle ปีที่แล้ว +6

    him so georgous.....imagine taking him home and getting him nekkid.

  • @EsotericSyncretism
    @EsotericSyncretism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting that the fringe has come off with this most recent collaborative album, maybe his symbolism that he is no longer on the fringe of society anymore

  • @anonymousanon3055
    @anonymousanon3055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid, thanks for making and sharing

  • @glennthiele6250
    @glennthiele6250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very intelligently presented. Thank you Great job

  • @ikelduo
    @ikelduo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooh genial. Gracias.

  • @-Razzle_Dazzle-
    @-Razzle_Dazzle- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really enjoyed this video!

  • @rodneyjenkins5092
    @rodneyjenkins5092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great essay! Very thoughtful.

  • @PhylisSophical
    @PhylisSophical ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo!!

  • @johnobrien5440
    @johnobrien5440 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She is incorrect right-off. Orville is not based in Canada. He currently resides in Hollywood Hills, CA. He has a video offering fans a tour of it. He became a U.S. Citizen as well. Orville is not the first gay cowboy. Canandian-born, Drake Jensen holds that title, coming "out" publicly in 2012. Today, there are 8 openly gay male country artists in the U.S. with a much larger following than Orville Peck. Waylon Payne (son of Sammie Smith), Ty Herdon and Paisely Fields to name just a few. If you're going to tell a story, get the facts right.

  • @sgtpppr
    @sgtpppr หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it hard to believe there were a significant number of cowGIRLS. Sure, there's an exception to every rule.

  • @mrbravo9473
    @mrbravo9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What cartoon is that

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I used a clip from Hilda - it's on Netflix I think. I already had the clip from a previous video so it made it useful. Was mostly thinking about the books though. But I highly suggest Hilda, it's great!

    • @mrbravo9473
      @mrbravo9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@incidentalmythology thank you

    • @johnobrien5440
      @johnobrien5440 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HAHAHA!

  • @markbraunstein58
    @markbraunstein58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really resent linking Orville to kardashian bullshit.

    • @incidentalmythology
      @incidentalmythology  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The point was simply to demonstrate how dressing and identity is a social human thing. The fact you can read Kardashian's social body and know that's not your person, but really connect to Orville's social body, just helps to show the point I think.

  • @HeinerSchenk
    @HeinerSchenk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤎🙏🏽✌🏼😍