@@anthonyfoutch3152 get over yourself it was 1968, remember draft-dodger? Funny, Ralph also had a great segment with Gene Clark in the mid 80s, very respectful. I doubt Roger was still pissed, like you old hippie retards still fighting LBJ?
I loved how Roger just kept on smiling as Ralph made himself out to be the aggrieved party around the 6:30 mark. I think time was going by verrrry slowly for everyone on that sofa.
Ralph..always condescending, trying to dominate and more than a bit of a prick as most narcissists are, tried to pay the victim and never admitted he was a jerk. He could have been humble and acknowledged how great and admired Sweetheart is and how wrong he was...but his ego wouldn't let him. This one's for you, Ralph.
The country music establishment at the time couldn't acknowledge the fact that Parsons and McGuinn could make a great country album. Same with Bod Dylan and his Nashville Skyline LP some years later.
It appears Roger and Ralph are good sports about the old 'country vs. rock' and roll' thing. The excellent 'Byrds Under Review' documentary has some revealing anecdotes about The Byrds at CBS studios in Nashville around 1968 too.
One nice thing about the Internet is that great musicians like Roger McGuinn and Gram Parsons (and Chris Hillman, the Byrds' bassist at that time) don't have to go crawling to short-sighted self-appointed "tastemakers" like Ralph Emery anymore to get their records heard. Interesting to note that Emery was still the same jerk in 1985 as he had been in 1968. Some things never change. Thanks for sharing this.
Ecclisiastes, 3rd chapter: vs's 1-8. Pete Seeger added the Title, "Turn, Turn, Turn, and made some word shifts, but other than that, it's the Word of God alright!! Been learning this song since I was around 19, still ain't got it right at 68! God bless ya Roger. bg
george scarlett ...still at 70 trying to get it right. Now I believe that the magical part of playing the guitar..try to be better everyday...thank you for the still learning message truly good to hear ...olman way down in tx jd
Tightly closed Country minded Nashville is a too tough shell of a nut to crack for a Rock outsider, possibly with the exception of the Allman Brothers; Duane having been a Muscle Shoals' session player. Original voice of the Byrds', Gene Clark easily transitioned to Country; owing to his genuinely poetic gift of feeling and writing from and for the soul, key to winning over the beatin' heart of Nashville, if not being beaten off the Country road to success and out of the Grand Ole Opry for no other reason than snobbish exclusivity.
Hey I had John York talking about this experience on a video. Thanks for posting the "Roger" side of the same conversation. Cool history on the Byrds....YOU ROCK!
I hope and am sure that roger Mcguinn and the "byrds" make millions. I just hope I am not related. I am irish and always believed from my dad we were cousins! Good look! Nora Mcgwynne galway/louth
This is new to me. So, Vern has recorded with Chris Hillman (Scotsville Squirrel Barkers / Hillmen), and Gene Clark (GC with the Gosdin Brothers which included Mike Clarke). Has he ever recorded with David Crosby, to complete his Byrds association?
Vern was singing with Marty Robbins with his Brothers backing up all those great cowboy songs. The same stuff many of the old hippies wouldn’t listen to unless Commander Cody recorded it. Hypocrites.
Interesting: Roger's Rick has Hi Gain pickups on it, instead of the old chrome bar/toaster top pickups that Rickenbacker prior to the 70's. I guess he must have swapped them out at some point, as I'm sure I've seen photos and video footage where he's got toaster top pickups in there.
Luckily for Ralph, Roger had been born-again by then, so he wasn't going to deliver the literal or figurative punch in the mouth that Emery was asking for.
you know the clips at the Opry still exist somewhere - there are a lot of other clips (in color - no less) from 1968 Opry episodes.....has anybody ever asked? - recently?
I think this was a good interview, Ralph is being truthful, it was a different time, everyone is grown up and matured now. I don't know why everyone is so negative here
not really, though..it was a different time..but ralph was a jerk to them in 1968, and then passes it off by saying "things were different back then"...rock "costumes"..he apparently still doesnt get it in 1985!!
@@dallasryle7740 well...there were "rock costumes" back then to some extent. An people dressed differently on 1968 then in 1985 as Roger did for this interview
@@hotlov72do you think Ralph ever had a problem with guys like Porter Wagner or Hank Snow wearing the same kind of Nudie suits that The Byrds did in 1968?
ralph checking to see roger knew if turn turn turn was from the bible..asking him the verse!!..ralph was a condescending prick ; rock "costumes" ..things didnt cross over in 1968 because of people like ralph emery..to him it was the hair, the lifestyles etc..it should have been about the music..i wonder if he listened to byrds sweetheart of the rodeo album before his 1968 interview....writers below are correct, roger now a christian,,is a class act
I forgot about this re-make, nice, but sort of pointless. And yes, Emery was an insufferable jerk. This was actually a great time for him to deliver a heartfelt apology. Clueless about the connections between genres.
Considering how much The Byrds were treated like utter shit by the country music scene in Nashville back in 1968 when the group was recording Sweetheart of the Rodeo there, I am surprised that McGuinn elected to appear on this show. Maybe it was for vengeance because he made Emmery look and sound like utter shit here lol.
Once again all you old hippies are actually haters, and living in the past. I find it hilarious. Hippies of that era could hate Sinatra, they,or Louie Bellson. But if you were a country guy and didn’t like Rock you were in the KKK. It just shows would a miserable bunch many of you are.
I saw Roger on his tour in 2011 in Kewaskum, WI. During the concert, he told us all about the 1968 interview with this guy before singing the song written in response. So I don't get your post.
And look what happened to "Country" music. 🙄 Remember when MTV had long hair and CMT had shaved heads, and then CMT had long hair and MTV had shaved heads? 🤠
I saw Rodger singing on the 700 Club once, a Christian show with Pat Robertson. I am guessing he grew up as a Christian and is familiar with The Bible.
@FUCK JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS Pete Seeger said the Byrds hit made him popular with his neighbors. He was more than "that Commie" Ralph seems to know the Bible as well as Trump does. Famously clueless
Man, is there any bigger a-hole in the world than Ralph Emery? I love that Roger discussed Drug Store Truck Driving Man with him. Although to his credit, Ralph wasn’t nearly as much of a bastard here.
That was an interview with Chris Hillman. Emory was a total jackass with Randy Meisner. I have no idea how he kept his job. Or got it in the first place.
It's easy to blame the conservative Nashville establishment for that whole 68 fiasco, but the truth is Gram was the one that screwed that one up. Roger is a gentleman about it, and wouldn't want to talk about a man that has passed away. Tompall Glaser went out on a limb to help get them on the Opry and the Opry tried to set up the performance for it to be successful. It was agreed that they would do a Haggard song that the audience was familiar with with the expectation that this would win over a skeptical middle aged country crowd. Then once that was accomplished do one of theirs. Everything was set and it was a good plan that might well have worked, remember this was 1968. Glaser introduces them telling the crowd the song they were going to do and the Opry band was ready to accompany them. Gram, without telling any of the other Byrds, (Gram wasn't even a full member, but a hired hand) steps to the mike and says, they weren't going to do that, and instead would do Hickory Wind. The Opry band doesn't even know the song, the show schedule (remember this is a live radio show) is thrown off, and Glaser is made to look the fool. Privately you might imagine that Hillman, McGuinn and the other band members were pissed as well, but what do you do at that point? Imagine if things had gone as planned and they won over the crowd. I expect the Emory interview would have gone better (if it was after the Opry show? I'm not sure about that.) But even if it hadn't, the gains made by a youth oriented Folk-Rock band in gaining acceptance could have had a profound affect. Instead we have to wait a few more years for the NGDB to come to town and win over a reluctant and once burned Nashville by helping to revive the careers of important but more or less shunned more traditional artists. Make no mistake, I really enjoy Gram's work with the Byrds, FBB and solo but he was his own worse enemy and he took other down with the ship on more that one occasion. And yes, Emory could be a real jerk.
This is one of the saddest things I've seen in a long time. To see the legendary Roger McGuinn sing high harmony to this hillbilly. Check out the Byrds' videos from the 60s and skip this musak.
You must not have any idea who Vern Gosdin was? Good grief if you're going to make derogatory comments about someone at least know a little about them. He was a very important figure in the California music scene in the 60s and then went on to become a very highly regarded and successful Country singer in the 70s and 80s. His voice was outstanding.
Emery was very arrogant! Roger showed a lot of class! If Emery going to bring him on and be condescending he would’ve been better off not to bring him on at all
That "country guy" was one of the great voices in 70s -80s Country music. He was also an important part of the same California music scene McGuinn was a part of back in the 60s. They were friends.
6 guys playing guitar shaped instruments...didn`t sound like it....don1`t know why the byrds wanted to play country music in 1968...always thought they were one of the best musical bands.
The thing that jumps out is "Why give up/ ruin the solo by handing it off to the seated guy?" That makes absolutely no sense because his tone is terrible (an old Sears Silvertone is what it sounds like - and that's giving Silvertones a bad name) and whether he's in tune is an open question. The song was going great and then.... splat!! Everyone else sounds good, but the seated guy needs to do 4 things- new guitar, new amp, appropriate tone, plenty lessons re: the preceding.
Country doesn't deserve Roger McGuinn's music.
Roger showed so much class...a real nice person....I was so impressed by the way he did the interview....
Roger showed a lot of class there, Emmery deserved a long overdue punch in the face.
Spot on man, Emmery is totally holding a grudge.
@@BarklyMitfordall you old grey ears boomers are f’ed up. Same close minded boomers hated Sinatra. Get over yourself!
Roger is a gentleman!
Ralph was a jerk to the Byrds when they came to Nashville. I will never forgive him. That's why they wrote " Drugstore Truck Drivin' Man"
@@anthonyfoutch3152 I think you mean Ralph Emery, not Roger McGuinn, and yes, he was a jerk.
@@margaretross9150 you are right i will correct it thanks.
@@anthonyfoutch3152 get over yourself it was 1968, remember draft-dodger? Funny, Ralph also had a great segment with Gene Clark in the mid 80s, very respectful. I doubt Roger was still pissed, like you old hippie retards still fighting LBJ?
Though polite, you can see the contempt in McGuinn's eyes. Ralph Emery defined condescending.
Yeah. Ralph really deserved a kick in the dentures by Roger.
Well, he's just watching out for the barbs.
I loved how Roger just kept on smiling as Ralph made himself out to be the aggrieved party around the 6:30 mark. I think time was going by verrrry slowly for everyone on that sofa.
I've seen a couple of odd interviews with Roger, this being one of them, in which he exercised a lot of restraint.
Wow what an awkward interview. God bless Roger McGuinn he truly is a gentleman and holds his own against an antagonist bitter old man.
"I didn't have any Byrds records," is such B.S. They brought him the record. That was the whole point in them visiting.
Otis Gibbs' story got me here.
Ralph..always condescending, trying to dominate and more than a bit of a prick as most narcissists are, tried to pay the victim and never admitted he was a jerk. He could have been humble and acknowledged how great and admired Sweetheart is and how wrong he was...but his ego wouldn't let him. This one's for you, Ralph.
Thanks Roger,miss ya Gram.
Great interview. Nice to see those two talk about the elephant in the room and come together.
I can't believe Roger went on that dirt bags show. 17 years later that Klansman still didn't do his homework.
Klansman? You’re mentally Ill. Living in the past much?
The country music establishment at the time couldn't acknowledge the fact that Parsons and McGuinn could make a great country album. Same with Bod Dylan and his Nashville Skyline LP some years later.
Wow a side of Roger we normally do often see......A really cool clip!!!
Glad you all enjoyed it.
Emery is the DJ in "Drug Store Truck Driving Man"
Having now listened to the interview, it seems like the song (DSTDM) nailed him pretty accurately.
Roger he is my favourite person
He my guitar player
Great exchange between Ralph Emory and Roger. I am aware of their history
"He is a drugstore truck driving man, he's the head of the Ku Klux Klan," -Gram Parsons, Roger McGuinn.
Back that up!!!
you'll be lucky if "you're not in town "
Rogers all class
Hilariously awkward. Roger is the man
It appears Roger and Ralph are good sports about the old 'country vs. rock' and roll' thing.
The excellent 'Byrds Under Review' documentary has some revealing anecdotes about The Byrds at CBS studios in Nashville around 1968 too.
One nice thing about the Internet is that great musicians like Roger McGuinn and Gram Parsons (and Chris Hillman, the Byrds' bassist at that time) don't have to go crawling to short-sighted self-appointed "tastemakers" like Ralph Emery anymore to get their records heard. Interesting to note that Emery was still the same jerk in 1985 as he had been in 1968. Some things never change.
Thanks for sharing this.
Ralph showed his true colors that day.
Ecclisiastes, 3rd chapter: vs's 1-8. Pete Seeger added the Title, "Turn, Turn, Turn, and made some word shifts, but other than that, it's the Word of God alright!! Been learning this song since I was around 19, still ain't got it right at 68! God bless ya Roger. bg
george scarlett ...still at 70 trying to get it right. Now I believe that the magical part of playing the guitar..try to be better everyday...thank you for the still learning message truly good to hear ...olman way down in tx jd
Did god sue him for plagiarism?
The Byrds with Gram Parson wrote some good country songs like Hickory Wind and I can see the hurt and disappointment in Mcguinn’s eyes!
"For the Times They are a Changin"
Tightly closed Country minded Nashville is a too tough shell of a nut to crack for a Rock outsider, possibly with the exception of the Allman Brothers; Duane having been a Muscle Shoals' session player. Original voice of the Byrds', Gene Clark easily transitioned to Country; owing to his genuinely poetic gift of feeling and writing from and for the soul, key to winning over the beatin' heart of Nashville, if not being beaten off the Country road to success and out of the Grand Ole Opry for no other reason than snobbish exclusivity.
Shame there's no recording of the 1968 interview.
I wish Roger would have said, “We brought you the fucking record, jackass”.
This one's for you, Ralph..... ha ha
that was an awesome video - never caught that one originally
Hey I had John York talking about this experience on a video. Thanks for posting the "Roger" side of the same conversation. Cool history on the Byrds....YOU ROCK!
This interview is pretty tame as far as beef goes. Not sure why everyone is all hot n bothered
Loved this...love Roger! Obviously Emery didnt know anything about country music...the Byrds covered the Louvin Brothers on Sweetheart of the Rodeo??
I hope and am sure that roger Mcguinn and the "byrds" make millions. I just hope I am not related. I am irish and always believed from my dad we were cousins! Good look! Nora Mcgwynne galway/louth
This is new to me. So, Vern has recorded with Chris Hillman (Scotsville Squirrel Barkers / Hillmen), and Gene Clark (GC with the Gosdin Brothers which included Mike Clarke). Has he ever recorded with David Crosby, to complete his Byrds association?
Don’t believe Croz ever did. He wasn’t much of a country guy. That was more Gene and Roger’s thing.
Vern was singing with Marty Robbins with his
Brothers backing up all those great cowboy songs. The same stuff many of the old hippies wouldn’t listen to unless Commander Cody recorded it. Hypocrites.
Ah, the mighty Rickenbacker.
***** Glorious. The sound of the Beatles, Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers and more.
Ralph is the Drug Store Truck Driving Man
Interesting: Roger's Rick has Hi Gain pickups on it, instead of the old chrome bar/toaster top pickups that Rickenbacker prior to the 70's. I guess he must have swapped them out at some point, as I'm sure I've seen photos and video footage where he's got toaster top pickups in there.
Luckily for Ralph, Roger had been born-again by then, so he wasn't going to deliver the literal or figurative punch in the mouth that Emery was asking for.
Yea Charles, talking tough, Ralph died in his 80s. Bet you’re never been in a fight all your life. Dope smoking old hippie burnout.
you know the clips at the Opry still exist somewhere - there are a lot of other clips (in color - no less) from 1968 Opry episodes.....has anybody ever asked? - recently?
There are no recordings of The Byrds at the Grand Ole Opry. None.
I think this was a good interview, Ralph is being truthful, it was a different time, everyone is grown up and matured now. I don't know why everyone is so negative here
not really, though..it was a different time..but ralph was a jerk to them in 1968, and then passes it off by saying "things were different back then"...rock "costumes"..he apparently still doesnt get it in 1985!!
@@dallasryle7740 well...there were "rock costumes" back then to some extent. An people dressed differently on 1968 then in 1985 as Roger did for this interview
@@hotlov72do you think Ralph ever had a problem with guys like Porter Wagner or Hank Snow wearing the same kind of Nudie suits that The Byrds did in 1968?
ralph checking to see roger knew if turn turn turn was from the bible..asking him the verse!!..ralph was a condescending prick ; rock "costumes" ..things didnt cross over in 1968 because of people like ralph emery..to him it was the hair, the lifestyles etc..it should have been about the music..i wonder if he listened to byrds sweetheart of the rodeo album before his 1968 interview....writers below are correct, roger now a christian,,is a class act
Gram said he was a prick. Looks like he was right.
As much as I like Gram's music, him saying someone is a jerk is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black.
@@elliottcrews4997 Yes, but a loveable jerk.
@@elliottcrews4997 well said Love his music as well, as I love Roger and the Byrds.
I forgot about this re-make, nice, but sort of pointless. And yes, Emery was an insufferable jerk. This was actually a great time for him to deliver a heartfelt apology. Clueless about the connections between genres.
Roger gran músico!!!?
Roger gran músico!!!!!!!!!!!!
I asked Roger about his uncomfortable interview with Ralph.He had no idea T
Considering how much The Byrds were treated like utter shit by the country music scene in Nashville back in 1968 when the group was recording Sweetheart of the Rodeo there, I am surprised that McGuinn elected to appear on this show. Maybe it was for vengeance because he made Emmery look and sound like utter shit here lol.
Once again all you old hippies are actually haters, and living in the past. I find it hilarious. Hippies of that era could hate Sinatra, they,or Louie Bellson. But if you were a country guy and didn’t like Rock you were in the KKK. It just shows would a miserable bunch many of you are.
Roger sure resembles the actor James Cromwell.
I am not a big fan of leftist rock n rollers but, McGuinn shows once again that he is a class act. I tip my hat to Roger McGuinn.
oh no not leftist again. What exactly is a leftist rock and roller?
@KILL JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS what does crosby have to do with it?
@KILL JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS Crosby wasn't even in the band when they came to Nashville.
Roger McGuinn isn’t a leftist, lol. He’s a conservative.
A registered Republican and an evangelical Christian since the 1970s, but yeah, “leftist rock n roller”….
It’s all The sound of roger
Well-handled.
Looks like Brenda Lee is headed to small-town prom after the show.
Nice hairpiece Vern
what had happened was that years earlier Emery had slammed the Byrds and Sweetheart of the Rodeo,publicly. Very rude and shortsighted.
I think the interview was very respectful.
I saw Roger on his tour in 2011 in Kewaskum, WI. During the concert, he told us all about the 1968 interview with this guy before singing the song written in response. So I don't get your post.
And look what happened to "Country" music. 🙄 Remember when MTV had long hair and CMT had shaved heads, and then CMT had long hair and MTV had shaved heads? 🤠
Nice! The chubby guy on acoustic guitar in the back center is Ricky Scaggs!
That ain't Scaggs. In 1985 he was at the height of his commercial country career, not playing in the house band for Nashville Now.
sounds alot like damage control for Ralph Emory
I saw Rodger singing on the 700 Club once, a Christian show with Pat Robertson. I am guessing he grew up as a Christian and is familiar with The Bible.
@FUCK JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS
Pete Seeger said the Byrds hit made him popular with his neighbors. He was more than "that Commie"
Ralph seems to know the Bible as well as Trump does. Famously clueless
@FUCK JOE BIDEN KILL ALL LIBERALS
You seem stressed...😎
You are calling someone “uneducated” but your handle is “kill all liberals”?!! You don’t even rise to the level of “deplorable”
Man, is there any bigger a-hole in the world than Ralph Emery? I love that Roger discussed Drug Store Truck Driving Man with him. Although to his credit, Ralph wasn’t nearly as much of a bastard here.
Look in the mirror, old boomer.
Where is the Still Dead Ralph
That was an interview with Chris Hillman. Emory was a total jackass with Randy Meisner. I have no idea how he kept his job. Or got it in the first place.
@@betsyvoss49You sound familiar some old broad that did too much LSD. You close minded Tw-t.
Is that host drunk or something????
It's easy to blame the conservative Nashville establishment for that whole 68 fiasco, but the truth is Gram was the one that screwed that one up. Roger is a gentleman about it, and wouldn't want to talk about a man that has passed away. Tompall Glaser went out on a limb to help get them on the Opry and the Opry tried to set up the performance for it to be successful. It was agreed that they would do a Haggard song that the audience was familiar with with the expectation that this would win over a skeptical middle aged country crowd. Then once that was accomplished do one of theirs. Everything was set and it was a good plan that might well have worked, remember this was 1968. Glaser introduces them telling the crowd the song they were going to do and the Opry band was ready to accompany them. Gram, without telling any of the other Byrds, (Gram wasn't even a full member, but a hired hand) steps to the mike and says, they weren't going to do that, and instead would do Hickory Wind. The Opry band doesn't even know the song, the show schedule (remember this is a live radio show) is thrown off, and Glaser is made to look the fool. Privately you might imagine that Hillman, McGuinn and the other band members were pissed as well, but what do you do at that point? Imagine if things had gone as planned and they won over the crowd. I expect the Emory interview would have gone better (if it was after the Opry show? I'm not sure about that.) But even if it hadn't, the gains made by a youth oriented Folk-Rock band in gaining acceptance could have had a profound affect. Instead we have to wait a few more years for the NGDB to come to town and win over a reluctant and once burned Nashville by helping to revive the careers of important but more or less shunned more traditional artists. Make no mistake, I really enjoy Gram's work with the Byrds, FBB and solo but he was his own worse enemy and he took other down with the ship on more that one occasion. And yes, Emory could be a real jerk.
lol, vern gosdin got ignored!
This is a terrible interview. Ralph Emery sounds like a crotchety old man.
Yeah, but McGuinn & Vern Gosdin show class. "Kill 'em with kindness", as they say........
I don't understand how Ralph Emory was able to make a living doing this. He was awful.
Because you smoke your weight in pot and still think It’s 1968. Ralph made millions and was loved by millions.
I like the Byrds version much better.
Roger? the guys name is jim.. did he change his name? he needs those square glasses
He did. He changed his name to Roger way back in the late '60s.
You can redo a great.
This is one of the saddest things I've seen in a long time. To see the legendary Roger McGuinn sing high harmony to this hillbilly. Check out the Byrds' videos from the 60s and skip this musak.
You must not have any idea who Vern Gosdin was? Good grief if you're going to make derogatory comments about someone at least know a little about them. He was a very important figure in the California music scene in the 60s and then went on to become a very highly regarded and successful Country singer in the 70s and 80s. His voice was outstanding.
@@elliottcrews4997no kidding, what a dumb thing to say
Emery was very arrogant! Roger showed a lot of class! If Emery going to bring him on and be condescending he would’ve been better off not to bring him on at all
Turn turn turn that is the Byrd’s
Why rerecord this. It all pales next to the Byrd's. Waste of tape
Fantastic
Why is this country guy singing on Rodger's song at all on this??
That "country guy" was one of the great voices in 70s -80s Country music. He was also an important part of the same California music scene McGuinn was a part of back in the 60s. They were friends.
That ain’t Rogers song. It’s Pete Seeger’s.
The host is really drunked. Or he smoked something very strong.
Ralph is lying through his teeth.
6 guys playing guitar shaped instruments...didn`t sound like it....don1`t know why the byrds wanted to play country music in 1968...always thought they were one of the best musical bands.
Gram's idea and Chris Hillman supported him. Now we look at "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" as an incredible country-rock album
Zeer zwakke uitvoering van het origineel, kan er niet aan tippen!
They sure hicked that song up.
The thing that jumps out is "Why give up/ ruin the solo by handing it off to the seated guy?" That makes absolutely no sense because his tone is terrible (an old Sears Silvertone is what it sounds like - and that's giving Silvertones a bad name) and whether he's in tune is an open question. The song was going great and then.... splat!! Everyone else sounds good, but the seated guy needs to do 4 things- new guitar, new amp, appropriate tone, plenty lessons re: the preceding.
It's a TV show. The network makes the decisions. The house band gets to add their little bit.
Gawd, the seated guy! Ignorant burn out. Get the weed out of your system and try to make sense.
Absolutely terrible. This ain't no hick song its a folk rock song and Vern Gosdin really screwed it up.
You need to get some hearing aids,quick.Vern is the best singer that has ever been on any Ralph know it all shows.
Not a great performance
It was pretty good for the period. I remember some of the dreck from those shows when I was a kid. Dreadful stuff.
Yikes! I think that Brenda Lee's dress and hair style was outdated by 1985!
She’s sorry 😂
@@OdesseyOracle78 just more stupidity from
Old weed smoking draft dodging burn outs.